I have personally seen several, hundred plus pound catfish when I was a child. IIRC, one was close to two hundred pounds. I remember being scared to going swim in lakes afterward. As a child, in my mind's eye, that thing could swallow me. Looking back, I don't know if it realy could have, but I remember being left with that distinct impression.
Several hundred pound catchfish are not myth or legend. These days with overfishing rampant, I don't know if large catfish have become myth and legend.
What a worthless, idiot, mod! That post was nothing near flaimbait! Yet, once again, the mods let the world know how stupid they can be.
Com eon mods, pull your heads from your tail pipes and mod they way you're supposed to mod... Stop moding emetionally! Do your dang job properly already!
People do illegal things all the time. Often they don't realize it's illegal or believe that it's a gray area. Informing people they are doing wrong in the eyes of the law is often a good thing. Granted, here, I would not of written the letter.
Read some of my other replies.
Read some of my other messages and you'll see that, IMO, he only had three real options available and yet he came up with this crappy forth option.
Shesh the mods are dumb. Come on. RTFA already! Then, place the two comments in context. Use a little reasoning and thought here. Do I really have to spell common sense out to every little detail like I just did in the below comments.
Overrated?? BS! Informative and insightful for calling BS to the dumb parent's post. Shesh already!
Wow! Once again I'm dazzeled b ythe brillance here. YOU only know that because YOU read the article AFTER he TOLD you that THEY used zombies. If HE hadn't told you, you would be in the dark; just as the author claims he was. Which means, until such time you knew what was going on, they would be EXACTLY like Yahoo and Google in eyes of all that remained ignorant!
You are one stupid idiot. He claims he only recently realized that they were using illegal tactics. Until such realization, he had zero reason to assume they were anything other than a good havister, exactly like Yahoo and Google. Once he found out bad sutff was going on, he tried to get it corrected; for months now. In other words, for your that dumb statement to have any merit, we must all immediately assume that the likes of Yahoo and Google also ignore ROBOTS.TXT. Unless you can prove they ignore it, your position is 100% BS flawed!
As I said, and the moronic mods missed (pea sized brains), it's obvious that the BS statement you are supporting is with 20/20 hind sight. How stupid do you have to be to not understand what I said? Obviously, with hind sight, you can see that they are scum bags. Since you were not in his shoes and he implies that the company is thought to be repuatable, claiming he's stupid for not "know-all" is nothing but BS.
I'm sure I'll be modded to hell for this posting but the stupidity that roams here is just sometimes too much. Go back and re-read my original reply. I never once said that Yahoo and Google did not obey ROBOTS.TXT. And you have zero reason, as posted, support your position, other than a BS statement with hind sight on your side. BS.
Yah. Fer Pete's sake, check out the tone of his letter. He's a Senior Programmer, and he's writing as if he were a Partner.
Troll is what I'd label you. Your position is, because he's not a partner he has no moral or legal responsibility to address such issues? Total BS. Dummies that take your position find themselves in jail or serious legal issues with the "good guys". Firing him because they are scumbags and have no desire to change is one thing. Suing and getting the police involved is a large step beyond their documented illegal dealings.
If you can't see and understand the difference here, you've got other things to be worrying about.
Especially when we begin to feel the pinch of fossil fuel exhaustion, which in now in the early stages.
There is now more known oil in the world than there has even been before. We are no where near the end of fosil fuel production. The only thing that *might* (and that's a BIG might) be near exhaustion is easy access to high quality (low sulfer) oil supplies. And the primary reason why fuel production from low quality oil is a problem is because we only have a couple of plants that can process it. The reason being? High quality oil has always been easy to reach, abundant, and cheaper to process. In other words, simple ecconomics at work.
The only question is, how much are you willing to pay...right now, there is no end in sight and any one that tells you otherwise is, at best, completely ignorant of the subject.
As the price of oil goes up, more and more fuel options suddenly become econmically feasible. In short, we may change from fossil fuels because of economics and maybe even because of polution, but there is currently zero, not even an inkling of an indication, that we are anywhere near exhaustion of fossil fuels.
Ahh. I see your confusion. Go back and read the original message that I'm replying to. The author implied that copying a book for a fried qualified as personal use. It most certainly does not. Copying a paragraph or so, for a friend, does fall under fair use.
Making 1000-copies for friend(s), most certainly does not fall under fair use. And absolutely yes, quantity determines the number of damages that you will be smacked with. So yes, quantity of violations absolutely does matter!
Actually, quantity is completely relevant according to law. Each violation adds up. If you made a copy for a "friend", it so NOT personal use. Period! How stupid are you?
Personal use is personal use, however, the example given has absolutely zero to do with personal use, which brings us full circle, wonder what crack pipe you're smoking from. Period.
Except that people disagree that they are accepting the terms of the license. Contract law currently says that EULAS are not legal yet people still continue to enforce it. Again, EULAs are in wide use but that are NOT commonly accepted.
If you print up a paragraph or maybe even a whole chapter, THAT'S personal use. If you print up the whole book or even thousands of copies, that's not!
The difference is, when you and I were kids, Sat-morn was the only place in town to get that toon-fix. These days, just about every channel has toons to show and there are even dedicated channels to show toons on. Even if someone were showing something educational, chances are, it wouldn't be seen by anything nearing the same size audience.
Actually, that's not true. The same problem comes up with key management. You can always have a system whereby, one person does not have permission to create an account to every other system. By allowing other accounts (which the admin can not create) to counter-sign, thus giving permission to the counter-sgned elements of the system, completely removes the concept of one account is god.
Of course, this is still not perfect and greatly increases complexity, but systems which address the chicken and the egg problem are very obtainable.
Of course, you'll come back and say, well the admin will just create more counter-signing accounts and then do his won counter signing....but for those new counter signing accounts to work, would have to be counter signed by the actual counter-signers to achieve that level of access, in the first place.
Basically, this means that you would have to have a fixed number of base counter signing accounts, which get greated and setup, during initial system setup. Like I said, this is easily obtainable....just more complex...and requires administration, ideally, by three or more admins; whereby, the more admins you have, the harder it is to cheat the system.
Please don't think I'm trivializing the complexity of the task, but I would think that taking off would be an easier issue on Mars than it is here on Earth. The atmosphere is mucho thinner there, and IIRC, gravity is slightly less. That means, anything taking off from there needs less fuel (less weight and less air resistance), not to mention, will have less friction (again, low air ensity).
As you said, it's the landing that's the bitch.;) Taking back off, is a much easier problem.
But such a plane, on mars, would have a completely different mission. Rather, it's mission would be to take atmospheric measurements. Which, I might add, neither a satellite nor a rover can do well.
I should also add that NASA already has a glider designed to be sent to Mars. Its design includes a really cool folding system, which allows it to be stowed for the long travel. Once there, it would be dropped from very high up, unfolding as it falls. Once there is enough atmosphere, it would begin gliding. It's designed to travel at speeds greater than Mach (during free fall, I don't think that's it's general operating range) and has even been tested at high altitude here on earth. Last I heard, the tests went very well. I'm not sure what else needs to be done on it at this point.
I think he means, anything that complains about a completely legitimate application, is being loud. Simple fact is, it shouldn't be saying anything about it at all.
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I have personally seen several, hundred plus pound catfish when I was a child. IIRC, one was close to two hundred pounds. I remember being scared to going swim in lakes afterward. As a child, in my mind's eye, that thing could swallow me. Looking back, I don't know if it realy could have, but I remember being left with that distinct impression.
Several hundred pound catchfish are not myth or legend. These days with overfishing rampant, I don't know if large catfish have become myth and legend.
What a worthless, idiot, mod! That post was nothing near flaimbait! Yet, once again, the mods let the world know how stupid they can be.
Com eon mods, pull your heads from your tail pipes and mod they way you're supposed to mod... Stop moding emetionally! Do your dang job properly already!
Once again the mods prove how worthlessly stupid they are. Too bad simple reading and comprehension skills are not required to obtain mod points.
Which has ZERO to do with anything.
People do illegal things all the time. Often they don't realize it's illegal or believe that it's a gray area. Informing people they are doing wrong in the eyes of the law is often a good thing. Granted, here, I would not of written the letter.
Read some of my other replies.
Read some of my other messages and you'll see that, IMO, he only had three real options available and yet he came up with this crappy forth option.
Correction..."for your" should be, "his". so on and so on...
Shesh the mods are dumb. Come on. RTFA already! Then, place the two comments in context. Use a little reasoning and thought here. Do I really have to spell common sense out to every little detail like I just did in the below comments.
Overrated?? BS! Informative and insightful for calling BS to the dumb parent's post. Shesh already!
Wow! Once again I'm dazzeled b ythe brillance here. YOU only know that because YOU read the article AFTER he TOLD you that THEY used zombies. If HE hadn't told you, you would be in the dark; just as the author claims he was. Which means, until such time you knew what was going on, they would be EXACTLY like Yahoo and Google in eyes of all that remained ignorant!
DIDN'T YOU RTFA!!!!!!!
You are one stupid idiot. He claims he only recently realized that they were using illegal tactics. Until such realization, he had zero reason to assume they were anything other than a good havister, exactly like Yahoo and Google. Once he found out bad sutff was going on, he tried to get it corrected; for months now. In other words, for your that dumb statement to have any merit, we must all immediately assume that the likes of Yahoo and Google also ignore ROBOTS.TXT. Unless you can prove they ignore it, your position is 100% BS flawed!
As I said, and the moronic mods missed (pea sized brains), it's obvious that the BS statement you are supporting is with 20/20 hind sight. How stupid do you have to be to not understand what I said? Obviously, with hind sight, you can see that they are scum bags. Since you were not in his shoes and he implies that the company is thought to be repuatable, claiming he's stupid for not "know-all" is nothing but BS.
I'm sure I'll be modded to hell for this posting but the stupidity that roams here is just sometimes too much. Go back and re-read my original reply. I never once said that Yahoo and Google did not obey ROBOTS.TXT. And you have zero reason, as posted, support your position, other than a BS statement with hind sight on your side. BS.
Informative my tail. Try -1 stupid.
I agree with you. IMO, he had only three obvious choices to make. 1) Maintain status quo. 2) Go to the FBI. 3) Remain silent and find a new job.
The fact that he invisioned a fourth option here, while commendable, is surprisingly stupid at the same time.
Yah. Fer Pete's sake, check out the tone of his letter. He's a Senior Programmer, and he's writing as if he were a Partner.
Troll is what I'd label you. Your position is, because he's not a partner he has no moral or legal responsibility to address such issues? Total BS. Dummies that take your position find themselves in jail or serious legal issues with the "good guys". Firing him because they are scumbags and have no desire to change is one thing. Suing and getting the police involved is a large step beyond their documented illegal dealings.
If you can't see and understand the difference here, you've got other things to be worrying about.
So you would never work for Google, Yahoo, or any other online harvester?
Your line of logic is one of complete BS supported by 20/20 hind site.
LOL! Wish I had the mod points today! :) Good one!
Especially when we begin to feel the pinch of fossil fuel exhaustion, which in now in the early stages.
There is now more known oil in the world than there has even been before. We are no where near the end of fosil fuel production. The only thing that *might* (and that's a BIG might) be near exhaustion is easy access to high quality (low sulfer) oil supplies. And the primary reason why fuel production from low quality oil is a problem is because we only have a couple of plants that can process it. The reason being? High quality oil has always been easy to reach, abundant, and cheaper to process. In other words, simple ecconomics at work.
The only question is, how much are you willing to pay...right now, there is no end in sight and any one that tells you otherwise is, at best, completely ignorant of the subject.
As the price of oil goes up, more and more fuel options suddenly become econmically feasible. In short, we may change from fossil fuels because of economics and maybe even because of polution, but there is currently zero, not even an inkling of an indication, that we are anywhere near exhaustion of fossil fuels.
I've always wondered what would happen you bought it on credit card and did a charge back on windows for the retail value.
LOL. Very sad in deed.
Ahh. I see your confusion. Go back and read the original message that I'm replying to. The author implied that copying a book for a fried qualified as personal use. It most certainly does not. Copying a paragraph or so, for a friend, does fall under fair use.
Making 1000-copies for friend(s), most certainly does not fall under fair use. And absolutely yes, quantity determines the number of damages that you will be smacked with. So yes, quantity of violations absolutely does matter!
Actually, quantity is completely relevant according to law. Each violation adds up. If you made a copy for a "friend", it so NOT personal use. Period! How stupid are you?
Personal use is personal use, however, the example given has absolutely zero to do with personal use, which brings us full circle, wonder what crack pipe you're smoking from. Period.
Again, you would be 100% wrong. I am not confused. Making mass copies to provide to your friend, or even a single copy, is not personal use. Period!
Except that people disagree that they are accepting the terms of the license. Contract law currently says that EULAS are not legal yet people still continue to enforce it. Again, EULAs are in wide use but that are NOT commonly accepted.
100% incorrect!!!
If you print up a paragraph or maybe even a whole chapter, THAT'S personal use. If you print up the whole book or even thousands of copies, that's not!
The difference is, when you and I were kids, Sat-morn was the only place in town to get that toon-fix. These days, just about every channel has toons to show and there are even dedicated channels to show toons on. Even if someone were showing something educational, chances are, it wouldn't be seen by anything nearing the same size audience.
Actually, that's not true. The same problem comes up with key management. You can always have a system whereby, one person does not have permission to create an account to every other system. By allowing other accounts (which the admin can not create) to counter-sign, thus giving permission to the counter-sgned elements of the system, completely removes the concept of one account is god.
Of course, this is still not perfect and greatly increases complexity, but systems which address the chicken and the egg problem are very obtainable.
Of course, you'll come back and say, well the admin will just create more counter-signing accounts and then do his won counter signing....but for those new counter signing accounts to work, would have to be counter signed by the actual counter-signers to achieve that level of access, in the first place.
Basically, this means that you would have to have a fixed number of base counter signing accounts, which get greated and setup, during initial system setup. Like I said, this is easily obtainable....just more complex...and requires administration, ideally, by three or more admins; whereby, the more admins you have, the harder it is to cheat the system.
Please don't think I'm trivializing the complexity of the task, but I would think that taking off would be an easier issue on Mars than it is here on Earth. The atmosphere is mucho thinner there, and IIRC, gravity is slightly less. That means, anything taking off from there needs less fuel (less weight and less air resistance), not to mention, will have less friction (again, low air ensity).
;) Taking back off, is a much easier problem.
As you said, it's the landing that's the bitch.
But such a plane, on mars, would have a completely different mission. Rather, it's mission would be to take atmospheric measurements. Which, I might add, neither a satellite nor a rover can do well.
I should also add that NASA already has a glider designed to be sent to Mars. Its design includes a really cool folding system, which allows it to be stowed for the long travel. Once there, it would be dropped from very high up, unfolding as it falls. Once there is enough atmosphere, it would begin gliding. It's designed to travel at speeds greater than Mach (during free fall, I don't think that's it's general operating range) and has even been tested at high altitude here on earth. Last I heard, the tests went very well. I'm not sure what else needs to be done on it at this point.
I think he means, anything that complains about a completely legitimate application, is being loud. Simple fact is, it shouldn't be saying anything about it at all.
Let's keep this in perspective.