Well, thousand page standard may not be always a good thing, but IMO it's better than having to rewrite your program from scratch every time you switch implementations.
One major problem is that when a language defines a very large environment - and especially when the designers have been 'clever' about the design - it will frequently be several times faster to implement some functionality yourself than to find out if, and how, to do it with the standard framework.
Yes, you can depend on the library to be debugged, optimized and correct (to a larger extent than your own attempt, at least), and yes, taking the pain of learning it now will pay off in years to come. But when the deadline is looming, and you are faced with a two to four hour programming task, or an all-day look through documentation and example code to determine if and how you can do what you need (that may in the end result in you writing it yourself anyway) it's very easy to just do it yorself, and put off learning about the 'right' way to do it to later (ie. never).
OK, this is not a dig against LISP - this issue of having very large piles of functionality is common to many languages, from C++ to LISP to Java, to Perl. How many people actually use even all the nifty goddness of glibc, for example?
I mean one look at your server logs should tell you how many people trying to use a mobile browser...
That will of course tend to undercount it quite a bit. How many people will even try, knowing from experience that commercial sites almost never work unless they specifically say so on their homepage?
It reminds me of my (former) bank that stated they will never allow Mozilla since none of their customers use it - which they of course did not since they couldn't.
you can safely leave that Stouffer's brand frozen pork chop and mashed potatoes in there for 10 or 12 hours
Actually, with the exception of a few ingredients, there is no problem with leaving chilled stuff out over the course of a day. And if they start out frozen, I doubt there's any danger with any food.
After all, if you want to thaw a chicken filet or a piece of salmon, that takes hours with it lying alone on a plate on the counter. If you have it lying together with other frozen ingredients in a container, I doubt it would have time to fully thaw before it's time to start cooking it. Even if it did, a few hours thawed won't harm it or you.
People are sometimes a little too afraid of food being spoiled, I think. It's not like it becomes a seething mass of microbes within ten seconds of not being "hygienically packaged" or anything.
As in, if someone comes along and sues for appropriating their work, they'd win, hands down. Explicit consent will need to be given; there is no question at all about that.
Mozilla foundation went through that a couple of years ago when they wanted to change the licensing. They spent months trying to contact everyone, and in the end, they still had to throw out some working code because they hadn't been able to reach the contributors.
You had time to write a three paragraph question for Ask Slashdot, and, seemingly, edit and correct it for spelling and grammar. Even if that was all you had time to do that day, you could write another couple of paragraphs the next day. Pretty soon you will have a job application. Sending it is a matter of a few minutes at a post office on the way to/from work. Presumably you will have time to read the responses here. You could use that time to peruse job listings.
You have vacation time. Use it for interviews or other needed travel.
Use what time you have, in other words. You won't be applying for as many jobs of course, but on the other hand you are making a living so there's not the same urgency either.
The short of your long comment is, he would need to get permission from every contributor or excize their contributions from the code - something that may well be time-coonsuming enough to not be feasible if more than a few decline. How is that different from what everybody else is saying.
if you want to display your financial superiority,...
In Japan, if you want to display your financial superiority, you buy expensive brand-name stuff. In the US - you buy expensive brand-name stuff. In Europe,... you get the idea. Exactly what kind of expensive brand-name stuff you buy depends on what you have use for (and can thus easily display); it's entirely incidental as long as it is expensive and an exclusive brand.
Apple hasn't so much created a technology as they have a lifestyle that specifically includes iTunes and an iPod, not any old mp3 player and download service.
Lifestyle and coolness are notoriously fickle bases on which to build a business (as apparently some car manufacturers are learning with the SUV). If anything, being the entrenched incumbent is a net negative.
If you click on the "History" link, you're brought to a japanese web page...and it looks like a lot of people (relatives) are visiting. If you visited your gramma in the rest home, don't you think she'd be happy?
A lot of Japanese today have moved into the major metropolitan areas (Tokyo, Osaka, Yokohama) since that's where the jobs are, while the older relatives stay behind in the home villages. And when you have a full-time job and live several hundred kilometers away, you can probably visit no more than a few times per year. I'm sure they are happy for those visits, but then there's some 360 days left in the year without them.
There is very little feedback for people to determine energy use. How many people do you think actually realize how much of their energy bill goes to something like this (or, for that matter, realize how much money they're wasting on old, inefficient fridges, washing machines and other household gear)? Every month (or every three months, depending) you just get a bill with total, with no breakdown at all on what you spent it on.
I'd say a study like this is plenty useful if it can alert people to just how much they really are wasting.
For us that live in coldish countries, and I'd place Scotland in this group, as long as you have regulated heating, heat from PSUs is just as good as any other heat.
That depends on what your regular heat source is. If you use an electric heating system you're more or less right (see below). Most other forms of heating (gas heater, heat pump, hot water heating from a central plant and so on) are more efficient overall than using some energy source to generate electricity (with losses), transfer that electricity (again with losses - pretty big ones over long distances), just to end up as heat.
The other, smaller, issue is that you want the heat in the right place. If you're spending most of your time in your living room and kitchen, having a bunch of electronics heating up your workshop or office won't be doing you much good. And, specifically for those arguing for filament lightbulbs, generating a lot of heat up in the ceiling won't do you any good down on the floor where you are.
wtf are these little homepage teaser articles all about?
Don't know, but I'd really like to have that UI for replies to your comments, with the link going to your comment that people have replied to, a mark of some sort highlighting the comments that are new once you get there, and a reset/autodelete of the new comment alert once you've clicked through once.
You can save a lot on your heating bill just by running an intel.
You would only save in total if your electricity is cheaper than your heating system per unit of heat. Most likely it's the other way around, and you lose money. It's the same tired argument in favour of lightbulbs, saying that their inefficiency doesn't mappter.
No it wasn't. It didn't teach the student a damn thing, which was the fucking point in the first place.
My comment was a responese to the assertion that the code received was poor, not a comment on the general desireability of having other poeple do your homework.
Take home exams are good. They allow you to create deeper, less superficial questions, since the students have a good deal of time and all the reference stuff they would want available. They reward the ability to actually use and reason about the subject over mindless memorization and regurgitatation.
It does put a degree of trust into the students integrity; not a whole lot, mind you, if the questions are well designed. But if a student abuses that trust and cheats - you want to punish the teacher. Sounds like a great signal to send to the next generation of knowledge workers. If someone shoplifts from a store, do you feel we should punish the storeowner for making the merchandize accessible?
Going to a Java exam armed with a pencil and my brain was all the help I had...while walking uphill, barefoot, in the snowstorm, selling matches to pay for the pencil?
Outsourcing your homework is good experience for middle management. That way, when they get their job, they have experience in outsourcing programming and getting poor quality code back.
Code that obviously was good enough for its intended use (since they passed the class with it). Which is a lesson that technical departments at times should heed: don't waste resources on making stuff better than it needs to be; nobody's going to notice, or thank you, and you ended up wasting resources better spent somewhere else.
Well, cheating is cheating, whether you get to use the work from a classmate or from someone in another part of the world. And if someone is really determined to take the easy way out, there is not a whole lot you can do to stop them; I doubt the majority of cheaters in college ever get caught (but allow for the fact that stupidity probably is a major factor in the need to cheat to begin with so that by itself increases the capture rate).
But what happens afterwards, when they're looking for a job and blow every interview since, well, they don't actually know what they're talking about? My guess, they blame the outsorcing trend for their failures...
...a search engine can make more money helping someone find your site than you can just running your site...
But that is not a problem, is it? The money Google makes from finding your site is not money taken from you. It isn't a revenue you would have had if Google hadn't come around.
You can make more money selling gasoline than selling the car (don't know if this is actually true). That does not mean that car manufacturers are entitled to a cut of the gas station profits.
Just to nitpick the humor: copper connectors would be bad (the connectors are made of gold so that they don't corrode, not for its conductive properties; copper corrodes readily), and a wire made of silver would be far more reasonable (silver is much cheaper than gold and a better conductor).
And since when did suddenly reality start to matter in the world of Hi-Fi enthusiasts?
Most net users are neither interested in computers, nor are they college students (or faculty) with a curious disposition and occasional time to kill. Most people run whatever is on their desktops when the start the computer.
They aren't trying to "kill off" firefox. They very probably do not know it exists, and if they do, it would mean installing something (always a risky, dicey proposition) when their current browser already works well enough for their tasks.
To see it from the other side, look at the difference between car enthusiasts - endless discussions on tuning, suspension components, or finding some original part in mint condition - and the normal car owner who doesn' care and doesn't want to care. Any suspension is fine as long as the wheels don't fall off.
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Well, thousand page standard may not be always a good thing, but IMO it's better than having to rewrite your program from scratch every time you switch implementations.
One major problem is that when a language defines a very large environment - and especially when the designers have been 'clever' about the design - it will frequently be several times faster to implement some functionality yourself than to find out if, and how, to do it with the standard framework.
Yes, you can depend on the library to be debugged, optimized and correct (to a larger extent than your own attempt, at least), and yes, taking the pain of learning it now will pay off in years to come. But when the deadline is looming, and you are faced with a two to four hour programming task, or an all-day look through documentation and example code to determine if and how you can do what you need (that may in the end result in you writing it yourself anyway) it's very easy to just do it yorself, and put off learning about the 'right' way to do it to later (ie. never).
OK, this is not a dig against LISP - this issue of having very large piles of functionality is common to many languages, from C++ to LISP to Java, to Perl. How many people actually use even all the nifty goddness of glibc, for example?
I mean one look at your server logs should tell you how many people trying to use a mobile browser...
That will of course tend to undercount it quite a bit. How many people will even try, knowing from experience that commercial sites almost never work unless they specifically say so on their homepage?
It reminds me of my (former) bank that stated they will never allow Mozilla since none of their customers use it - which they of course did not since they couldn't.
you can safely leave that Stouffer's brand frozen pork chop and mashed potatoes in there for 10 or 12 hours
Actually, with the exception of a few ingredients, there is no problem with leaving chilled stuff out over the course of a day. And if they start out frozen, I doubt there's any danger with any food.
After all, if you want to thaw a chicken filet or a piece of salmon, that takes hours with it lying alone on a plate on the counter. If you have it lying together with other frozen ingredients in a container, I doubt it would have time to fully thaw before it's time to start cooking it. Even if it did, a few hours thawed won't harm it or you.
People are sometimes a little too afraid of food being spoiled, I think. It's not like it becomes a seething mass of microbes within ten seconds of not being "hygienically packaged" or anything.
Or, in short, silence implies consent.
It does not.
As in, if someone comes along and sues for appropriating their work, they'd win, hands down. Explicit consent will need to be given; there is no question at all about that.
Mozilla foundation went through that a couple of years ago when they wanted to change the licensing. They spent months trying to contact everyone, and in the end, they still had to throw out some working code because they hadn't been able to reach the contributors.
You had time to write a three paragraph question for Ask Slashdot, and, seemingly, edit and correct it for spelling and grammar. Even if that was all you had time to do that day, you could write another couple of paragraphs the next day. Pretty soon you will have a job application. Sending it is a matter of a few minutes at a post office on the way to/from work. Presumably you will have time to read the responses here. You could use that time to peruse job listings.
You have vacation time. Use it for interviews or other needed travel.
Use what time you have, in other words. You won't be applying for as many jobs of course, but on the other hand you are making a living so there's not the same urgency either.
The short of your long comment is, he would need to get permission from every contributor or excize their contributions from the code - something that may well be time-coonsuming enough to not be feasible if more than a few decline. How is that different from what everybody else is saying.
if you want to display your financial superiority, ...
... you get the idea. Exactly what kind of expensive brand-name stuff you buy depends on what you have use for (and can thus easily display); it's entirely incidental as long as it is expensive and an exclusive brand.
In Japan, if you want to display your financial superiority, you buy expensive brand-name stuff. In the US - you buy expensive brand-name stuff. In Europe,
Apple hasn't so much created a technology as they have a lifestyle that specifically includes iTunes and an iPod, not any old mp3 player and download service.
Lifestyle and coolness are notoriously fickle bases on which to build a business (as apparently some car manufacturers are learning with the SUV). If anything, being the entrenched incumbent is a net negative.
Or because they placed the damn thing a few kilometers from Copenhagen making sure to make it uninhabital should a meltdown occur..
And it was such a good plan too...
Of course, the sister reactor - all of forty meters further away from Copenhagen - is running and will likely continue to do so for years to come.
If you click on the "History" link, you're brought to a japanese web page...and it looks like a lot of people (relatives) are visiting. If you visited your gramma in the rest home, don't you think she'd be happy?
A lot of Japanese today have moved into the major metropolitan areas (Tokyo, Osaka, Yokohama) since that's where the jobs are, while the older relatives stay behind in the home villages. And when you have a full-time job and live several hundred kilometers away, you can probably visit no more than a few times per year. I'm sure they are happy for those visits, but then there's some 360 days left in the year without them.
There is very little feedback for people to determine energy use. How many people do you think actually realize how much of their energy bill goes to something like this (or, for that matter, realize how much money they're wasting on old, inefficient fridges, washing machines and other household gear)? Every month (or every three months, depending) you just get a bill with total, with no breakdown at all on what you spent it on.
I'd say a study like this is plenty useful if it can alert people to just how much they really are wasting.
For us that live in coldish countries, and I'd place Scotland in this group, as long as you have regulated heating, heat from PSUs is just as good as any other heat.
That depends on what your regular heat source is. If you use an electric heating system you're more or less right (see below). Most other forms of heating (gas heater, heat pump, hot water heating from a central plant and so on) are more efficient overall than using some energy source to generate electricity (with losses), transfer that electricity (again with losses - pretty big ones over long distances), just to end up as heat.
The other, smaller, issue is that you want the heat in the right place. If you're spending most of your time in your living room and kitchen, having a bunch of electronics heating up your workshop or office won't be doing you much good. And, specifically for those arguing for filament lightbulbs, generating a lot of heat up in the ceiling won't do you any good down on the floor where you are.
wtf are these little homepage teaser articles all about?
Don't know, but I'd really like to have that UI for replies to your comments, with the link going to your comment that people have replied to, a mark of some sort highlighting the comments that are new once you get there, and a reset/autodelete of the new comment alert once you've clicked through once.
Please do not confuse Republicans and their followers with conservatives. Indeed, they are very different groups holding very different beliefs.
Oh, I guess that explains why so large a proportion of conservatives vote democrat then?
He can rest easier now - Wikipedia to the rescue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W
You can save a lot on your heating bill just by running an intel.
You would only save in total if your electricity is cheaper than your heating system per unit of heat. Most likely it's the other way around, and you lose money. It's the same tired argument in favour of lightbulbs, saying that their inefficiency doesn't mappter.
No it wasn't. It didn't teach the student a damn thing, which was the fucking point in the first place.
My comment was a responese to the assertion that the code received was poor, not a comment on the general desireability of having other poeple do your homework.
How would you know what effect to strive for in Photoshop unless you've already built something like this and found out what it looks like?
:)
Methinks you're missing the point a bit here
Take home exams are good. They allow you to create deeper, less superficial questions, since the students have a good deal of time and all the reference stuff they would want available. They reward the ability to actually use and reason about the subject over mindless memorization and regurgitatation.
It does put a degree of trust into the students integrity; not a whole lot, mind you, if the questions are well designed. But if a student abuses that trust and cheats - you want to punish the teacher. Sounds like a great signal to send to the next generation of knowledge workers. If someone shoplifts from a store, do you feel we should punish the storeowner for making the merchandize accessible?
Going to a Java exam armed with a pencil and my brain was all the help I had ...while walking uphill, barefoot, in the snowstorm, selling matches to pay for the pencil?
Outsourcing your homework is good experience for middle management. That way, when they get their job, they have experience in outsourcing programming and getting poor quality code back.
Code that obviously was good enough for its intended use (since they passed the class with it). Which is a lesson that technical departments at times should heed: don't waste resources on making stuff better than it needs to be; nobody's going to notice, or thank you, and you ended up wasting resources better spent somewhere else.
Well, cheating is cheating, whether you get to use the work from a classmate or from someone in another part of the world. And if someone is really determined to take the easy way out, there is not a whole lot you can do to stop them; I doubt the majority of cheaters in college ever get caught (but allow for the fact that stupidity probably is a major factor in the need to cheat to begin with so that by itself increases the capture rate).
But what happens afterwards, when they're looking for a job and blow every interview since, well, they don't actually know what they're talking about? My guess, they blame the outsorcing trend for their failures...
...a search engine can make more money helping someone find your site than you can just running your site...
But that is not a problem, is it? The money Google makes from finding your site is not money taken from you. It isn't a revenue you would have had if Google hadn't come around.
You can make more money selling gasoline than selling the car (don't know if this is actually true). That does not mean that car manufacturers are entitled to a cut of the gas station profits.
Just to nitpick the humor: copper connectors would be bad (the connectors are made of gold so that they don't corrode, not for its conductive properties; copper corrodes readily), and a wire made of silver would be far more reasonable (silver is much cheaper than gold and a better conductor).
And since when did suddenly reality start to matter in the world of Hi-Fi enthusiasts?
Most net users are neither interested in computers, nor are they college students (or faculty) with a curious disposition and occasional time to kill. Most people run whatever is on their desktops when the start the computer.
They aren't trying to "kill off" firefox. They very probably do not know it exists, and if they do, it would mean installing something (always a risky, dicey proposition) when their current browser already works well enough for their tasks.
To see it from the other side, look at the difference between car enthusiasts - endless discussions on tuning, suspension components, or finding some original part in mint condition - and the normal car owner who doesn' care and doesn't want to care. Any suspension is fine as long as the wheels don't fall off.