Isn't that just moving the application from one linux box(the client) to another(the server)?
I mean, no sane person would use Windows to host something like that....
But on a more serious note, a lot of OSS developers don't have the money to smack down on bandwidth and machines just to host their projects - where as Google and Microsoft can afford it. i thought this first, but it might save some bandwidth in the long run by people not downloading a 600meg cd, then the usual distro upgrades etc, instead they might use 1meg of traffic in writing a letter using software as a service.
i really would not like to see this. there have been some attempts at making a desktop run as a service, but in all it's not very fast. the only benefit is that the heavy work, like loading of a office suite can be done in someone else's backyard. don't you just hate it when your network goes down?
that's quite funny for a first post, i don't know why you were modded down as troll. how does this system differ from spamcop? what makes the french think this will not be subject to abuse?
Microsoft said it plans to add support for the technology into its Windows XP and Windows Vista operating systems. Needless to say, GNU/Linux, etc has ran beautifully on removable media for years. I'm surprised MS didn't go for a specialized Windows CE. More to the point, things like FreeSCO (has nothing to do with santa cruz, it's more a pun on CISCO), runs from a single floppy disk. I've used it as a backup router for many years, it's perfect. Then there are things like DSL (damn small linux) that too runs as a desktop consuming some tiny amount of disk space, I forget the exact figure, but I think the desktop install is around 100-500meg.
* Believe us or we'll sue you to hell - Scientology I think what Tom Cruise Missile says in SP09e12 is "I'm going to sue you in England". Scientology is worse than most religions because it's based on utter crap and the members have to pay to eat that shit.
Java itself is ok using the J2SE, what I found when working with J2ME was that there are so many things that would be useful when working in limited memory that just are not available that it makes developing for this platform a real strain. I think that this 'FX' series will be much of the same and make it difficult to do anything useful. I seriously hope that this is not the case and that FX can do most of what is available in the SE editions.
Probably the fact that Windows doesn't have a fork() system call.;-)
-matthew are you sure? i thought windows was posix? how would one create a process in windows - oh never mind, i'll google for it... i'm sure that borland c had fork/exec, but last time i used turbo c was 1994 or there abouts..
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SVr4, 4.3BSD, POSIX.1-2001.
To be fair, Apple's system is pretty easy to spoof.
Write a goofy screen saver and get people to download it. On install, say "you need to log in to install" which isn't unusual for a screen saver (at least not to the layman.) You put up a fake login dialog, and record their password. You install the screen saver in the user's folder, which doesn't require a password, and will trick the user into thinking it's all legit. Then you just transmit the saved password to God knows where when the screensaver activates.
I don't know if Microsoft's system offers more protection against that scenario. doubtful, whats to stop the program from forking a process that takes a capture of the actual 'please enter the user/pass' screen, then displaying that and read the keystrokes...
And that's why Ubuntu loses. I work on large image and video files under windows (same box) all day long with no problem. Weird things happen in Linux. Heck, I could install SUSE and the crashes could stop. I am running system monitor on the taskbar (it crashes at login but I can tell it to start again) and the temps are all good.
Oh yeah, mod me down because I'm having issues with Ubuntu and instead of simply hitting the reset button, I talk about it... yes, you should be modded down for whining. if you have a problem with it then file a bug report. but first read the relevant reporting faq to see what they require for this.
I installed Ubuntu 7.04 on a machine running windows (very nicely) and I get crashes in firfox, moving documents between SATA drives, using F-spot, remote sessions with NXServer, and other random times. I don't mean nice crashes either. These crashes kill responses to any input be they keyboard, mouse, video, ssh, telnet, etc.
Sorry, Linux doesn't "just work"... i think that's more like your hardware that is at fault. i know somethings can be driver related, but if all your hardware seizes then it sounds like something is getting too hot. do please check your hardware first, and i mean properly. run something like bonie++ for a while to make sure your disks are spinning right, and check the dmesg output to see if there's something obvious there.
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... I guess it's kind of like the school of hard knocks for programmers.... Hehe, that's quite funny. I have gone through a bunch of languages and perl is the one that I keep coming back to. It might be because I generally have a lot of sysadmin tasks to perform, which is where it's very suited. I have yet to do any huge website projects with perl, but I imagine that JSP or PHP will take preference when I have to do that next.
Wouldn't it be great to just have 1% of the money that Microsoft has wasted on this? I'd retire.
lol, that's a great way to think about it. retiring. although you could probably find a cure for aids and cancer with that sort of money, which is what i'd opt for. mind you, retiring at 26 would be great too.
Clearly, seeing as he doesn't even know the difference between moderator and, *cough*, editor. i thought it was all done through firehose now. people rate the articles and they get submitted when the rating is high enough. i thought the editors were all replaced a long time ago?
it's bad enough when someone does a first post to goatse.cx, why the heck is this making news? internet shock sites should not be posted on popular forums, it's stupid, why do we get a news article about shock sites, i always thought the/. community of moderators were a little more mature.
As far as I can see about AFS is indeed the DFS structure, but on top of that would have to be a process which would check for differences between the volumes and correct any faults.
The issue here wouldn't be so much as having a distributed set of data for better availability, but having a system that can detect and automatically correct data corruption.
This is not something I can find as a feature in the AFS FAQ. no, it's not. but it's in the system admin 101. this is something that the system admin has to cope with. hence why the md5 should be stored.
Splitting the data files wouldn't be enough. You'll need at least 3 copies to compare against one another to see if there's bitrot. If there's a difference in one file compared to the other two it is most likely that part is corrupted, and it should be overwritten by the data from the other copies.
I don't know how redundant.par files are, but if it can be redundant like this it should work. well this is where AFS comes into it's own. its a DFS so adding replica sites is quite easy, then the normal admin tasks of daily checksums from the MD5s come into play. then either rebuild from the.par or deal with it manually. personally if i were running thing's i'd have AFS to multiple data centres, or just house the stuff onsite. which ever is easiest. i imagine that this sort of data would extend to having daily/weekly backups of employee data on there also, things like video edits.
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i really would not like to see this. there have been some attempts at making a desktop run as a service, but in all it's not very fast. the only benefit is that the heavy work, like loading of a office suite can be done in someone else's backyard. don't you just hate it when your network goes down?
that's quite funny for a first post, i don't know why you were modded down as troll. how does this system differ from spamcop? what makes the french think this will not be subject to abuse?
I think what Tom Cruise Missile says in SP09e12 is "I'm going to sue you in England". Scientology is worse than most religions because it's based on utter crap and the members have to pay to eat that shit.
Java itself is ok using the J2SE, what I found when working with J2ME was that there are so many things that would be useful when working in limited memory that just are not available that it makes developing for this platform a real strain. I think that this 'FX' series will be much of the same and make it difficult to do anything useful. I seriously hope that this is not the case and that FX can do most of what is available in the SE editions.
I think you forgot x11amp :)
looks like the host is slashdotted, here is a mirrordot link to the first page of the article, does anyone have a better mirror of this site?
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http://www.mirrordot.org/stories/a3c962572c00cfd4
Probably the fact that Windows doesn't have a fork() system call.
-matthew are you sure? i thought windows was posix? how would one create a process in windows - oh never mind, i'll google for it... i'm sure that borland c had fork/exec, but last time i used turbo c was 1994 or there abouts.. CONFORMING TO SVr4, 4.3BSD, POSIX.1-2001.
Write a goofy screen saver and get people to download it. On install, say "you need to log in to install" which isn't unusual for a screen saver (at least not to the layman.) You put up a fake login dialog, and record their password. You install the screen saver in the user's folder, which doesn't require a password, and will trick the user into thinking it's all legit. Then you just transmit the saved password to God knows where when the screensaver activates.
I don't know if Microsoft's system offers more protection against that scenario. doubtful, whats to stop the program from forking a process that takes a capture of the actual 'please enter the user/pass' screen, then displaying that and read the keystrokes
can you customise the clippyness out of it? http://blogs.sun.com/marigan/entry/how_the_vi_edit or_would
and get it shut down in minutes. mirrored: http://www.mirrordot.org/stories/e231a81023b07bf3
Is there anyone who would like to put up some bounty for having this hosted in a country with liberal hosting rules, such as Sweden perhaps?
... I guess it's kind of like the school of hard knocks for programmers.It's interesting though, because now Microsoft is actually on both sides of this fight.
They just recently partnered with Novell, and were funding SCO through Baystar.
Wouldn't it be great to just have 1% of the money that Microsoft has wasted on this? I'd retire.
lol, that's a great way to think about it. retiring. although you could probably find a cure for aids and cancer with that sort of money, which is what i'd opt for. mind you, retiring at 26 would be great too.normally this news would make me happy, but since novel is in bed with other big corporates i'm not so pleased.
i thought it was all done through firehose now. people rate the articles and they get submitted when the rating is high enough. i thought the editors were all replaced a long time ago?
it's bad enough when someone does a first post to goatse.cx, why the heck is this making news? internet shock sites should not be posted on popular forums, it's stupid, why do we get a news article about shock sites, i always thought the /. community of moderators were a little more mature.
The issue here wouldn't be so much as having a distributed set of data for better availability, but having a system that can detect and automatically correct data corruption.
This is not something I can find as a feature in the AFS FAQ. no, it's not. but it's in the system admin 101. this is something that the system admin has to cope with. hence why the md5 should be stored.
I don't know how redundant