I bought my first mac this summer. Yeah, I noticed the same thing...I think I deleted some text too now that you mention it.
I believe it took me all of about 10 minutes to figure out that virtually every Ctrl+ combo on a PC is Apple+ on apple. I don't think it took but a couple of days and I was in the full swing of things.
I have some complaints about the mac UI, but really, even the mythical "typical user" with the oft presumed IQ of a nat could transition within a week or so.
He doesn't really have to address point by point where the sbvt is wrong. Every allegation they had was determined as completely unfounded from many sources including statements made by the sbvt's members prior to the campaign and by a military reassessment of whether Kerry's medals were justly awarded.
This has been well covered on CNN, Newsweek, and various other prevalant news agencies. . . I'd encourage you to look into it. However, I'd suspect that your probably a strict Fox news only kinda guy.
Actually, no you don't have to go to www.microsoft.com/docs or www.apple.com/docs to find out how to install either one or to set up your network. The installs are for the most part self explanatory, and the network can be set up by typing "help" or running an idiot proof wizard. When they do go to the site and search for documentation what they find is often not useful to or tailored for someone new to linux or geek speak.
A common response to the above:
They must be an idiot.
No, that simply isn't true. I've helped incredibly intelligent biomedical and mechanical engineering students through 101 CS assignments. They just don't get it. Just because someone isn't a natural at understanding the jargon doesn't make them an idiot. Case in point: www.debian.org/doc/. Ok, um, "User Manuals", that looks promising: here we go, "Debian Installation Manual". Ok, ummm, released version? I guess thats it, lets see:
* Installation Manual for Alpha
* Installation Manual for ARM
* Installation Manual for HP PA-RISC
* Installation Manual for Intel x86
* Installation Manual for Intel IA-64
* Installation Manual for Motorola 680x0
* Installation Manual for MIPS
* Installation Manual for MIPS (DEC)
* Installation Manual for PowerPC
* Installation Manual for IBM S/390
* Installation Manual for SPARC
WTF? ok, wait I have an Intel...alright *click* Holly Shit!@#$! This thing is like 12 chapters long! Well, *sigh* I've got this far, I'll give it a shot.
Now all this before they even get started or know what 'rm' is or 'ifconfig' or any other unix specific command. For most people who've just "heard linux is cool" they've already shown a high degree of commitment to give linux a try. Than they run into problems and if they're lucky and know about IRC can check #freenode and be introduced to some 15 yr/old 1337 kid that bruskly tells them to RTFM (which they tried to) before finding someone that knows how to help and is willing, but if not they end up googling around or giving up.
Really take a step back from "I love to read technical documents!" geek world (of which I'm a member) and admit that Linux documentation is a truly dismal resource to a new user. Even Mandrake,safe haven for newbie users everywhere has some pretty intimidating documentation if you truly attempt to look at it with unbiased eyes: Mandrake Install
Especially when it isn't even required for any main strream OS.
Linux isn't perfect, there are still plenty of valid critiques, but "dependency hell" just isn't one of them. I can honestly say I haven't had a single dependency problem for at least 2 years (probably more, but I'm too lazy and it's too early to think too hard about it). Every major distribution has dependency checking today.
Now, perhaps the author has inadvertantly drawn attention to the heart of Linux's adoption woes: documentation. Why doesn't this author know about apt-get? Why doesn't he know about urpmi? Why isn't he aware of the vast amount of documentation normally available in/usr/share/docs/ ?
The common answers people receive for this are:
google idiot!
Sheahhh! Everyone just knows all the docs are in/usr/share/docs!
RTFM!!
But to even adept computer users (not uber geeks, just adept) the location of "the manual" isn't obvious, they don't know about */docs and, lets face it, man pages are written FGBG (for geeks, by geeks).
In comparison to it's top two competitors, linux is the only OS to date where a user is expected to magically know the location of appropriate documentation, by default have a degree in the documentation jargon of advanced coders, and to be willing to read a small novel on the intricacies of his particular distro's package and system management methods to even use the os to any degree of efficiency.
This is what people mean when they say Linux isn't ready *yet* and to tie it back to the article, these are exactly the sort of apparently groundless complaints that surface as a result of this gaping hole in useability.
PHP5 was released in july, seriously, how much stress testing have you put on that nice php5-only code before you considered it was production-worthy?
I would under no circumstances implement PHP5 at this time. The point I was making (perhaps not clearly enough) is that if your running debian stable it may not even make it to your production/development servers this decade. Of course, when it is 'ready' is a matter of subjective opinion. I have found that in almost every case the vast majority of IT's find a product ready for production sometimes years before debian does.
In regards to the rest of the post you are 100% correct. Once again I apologize for my hurried, unclear post. By 'workstation' I was referring to the workstation environment which, of course, is determined by the development server. No, the developers do not determine what environment is appropriate, however they do provide feedback as to what would make their job easier. Since Debian's package management system is extremely unflexible, ultimately you are placing the decisions into the hands of the Debian development team rather than where they belong: your companies IT department.
Ummmm, your development workstations should emulate your servers as closely as possible....how else can you ensure that it will run as expected or at all for that matter?
Almost every single argument for using a current versions of a given software on a workstation are equally valid for implementing that software in a server environment.
One quick eample: PHP5 brings public and private classes/functions/variables to php. This is something I and other develpers would like to use. However, if your running Debian stable, the odds of seening that in an even remotely acceptable time frame are remote. . ..so what are you going to do when the developers have php5 on their workstations and none of the code works?
The reason you trust your government is because at this particular point in time your definition of a criminal act happens to loosely coincide with that of the powers that be. However, the assertion that sometime in the future for your children or grandchildren that pleasant circumstance may not exist is more a historical fact than any tin foil hat wearing paraonoia.
When it comes to issues of civil liberties, it's a good excercise to imagine the most extremist views in your society that you disagree with and ask yourself: "Would I want that guy deciding who is the criminal and who is not? Which person to film and which to ignore?"
The answer is almost always a resounding NO! We all do things that may be legal today, but were it up to certain fringe parties would not be tomorrow.
The problem with those so willing to give up civil liberties won by civil war and extreme social unrest is that they always imagine that the guy behind the government camera agrees with them.
Laptops aren't the best for notes, not flexible enough. But laptops are excellant for mobile studying, like when your underwater basket weaving major of a roommate (or neighbor) doesn't understand the phrase "I have a project due tomorrow morning." In which case you have two choices:
Raise absolute hell and look like some stressed out moron.
Pick up your laptop and walk to the library.
Guess which one results in more work getting done?:)
Business is about supplying what the customer wants.
Here's an all too common example:
Page written and validated
In Firefox there is something "off" about the rendering, not severe but a bit off
Renders fine in IE.
Customer is paying a 250,000/yr retainer fee and $100 per hour per job
Customer has explicitly said, "We could give a rat's ass about cross browser compatibility and dont' want to waste our money toward that goal........if it renders in IE, push it live and move on".
What do you do? If you answered: "Make it compatible anyway". That's being dishonest with your employer at best.
You also assume that every site you work on was created from scratch in shop. This simply isn't true. You've obviously never had a major pile of Dreamweaver, poorly written, unvalidated, crap in your lap. Told what addition or "repair" needed to be done and given a strict time limit to do it in. Sometimes it's not YOUR code that's directly causing the problem and if it works in IE....move on.
You want cross browser compatibility? You got it, love to see folks willing to shell out the cash to have a job done right.
Ding! Ding! You win the most senseless, biased misinterpreted article of the week post! Straight off the bat that site smacks of nothing but tripe. But in good humor I actually read the reference article it sited.
First: The article quotes Bill Richardson, the New Mexico Governor NOT Kerry.
Second: The article never quotes anyone as saying they are "pro-outsourcing", but only assures India that it is not actively against US/India business relations
Third: The only mention of Kerry and outsource in the same sentence is here: "Kerry had earlier termed CEOs who outsource jobs from the United States as "Benedict Arnold CEOs", after a traitor of the revolutionary war, sparking off widespread criticism."
And Fourth: The article is the equivilant of one with the title: "BUSH EATS BABIES FOR BREAKFAST!!" with the content being an interview with some obscure Republican about how the republican party does not hate babies.
Now I'm not making any definitive claim about the actual stance of Kerry or his wish-washiness (or lack thereof), but if that's the best you can do......You sir are an---> Idiot.
I bought my Dual G5 a couple of months ago. It was a toss up between it and a dual opteron setup. I'd always built my own systems before and would have built the opteron, but there was great appeal in having all the unix goodness of OSX and a slew of main stream applications as well.
Long story short, I went to Newegg and put together a comparable Dual Opteraon system (performance and quality of hardware). The cost difference was approximately 300 in the opterons favor.
But than you start adding software that compares to what comes standard with OSX, throw in the convenience of having one company to answer to possible warranty issues, and one of the finest cooling/case setups I've had the pleasure of seeing and there really isn't that much difference at all.
What it comes down to is: what do you want? If your bitching about a couple of hundred dollars on a machine that costs several thousand, your just looking for excuses.
Now is the time for someone to post his newegg configuration with cheap ram, a 25 dollar case with generic PSU, and consumer level motherboard for a thousand dollars less than the G5......you can have it.
You should have read the parent, my exact point was that there is nothing exceptionally special about Microsoft's updates and Apple does the same thing, which you do rightly point out.
I can completely delete safari from my computer. ..can you say the same about IE? Of course not, your entire system won't work if you do.
Anyone can read the release notes and they all sound really shiny, the apple 10.3.5 release notes sound just as spiffy:
Huge architecture change! Better NFS support, Improved Mail and Image capture!! Improved font management! Better mounting of Networked Home directories! Blah, blah, blah...
Turns off raw socket sending == setting change
Death of buffer overflow bugs == bug fix.
Outlook marks executable as 'dirty' == security hack (what if somone sends me an executable that I want to run? how annoying.
Offer IE7 outside of longhorn. For christ's sake I hope so and I hope it fixes at least half of the problems with that horrendous virus and spyware invitation they call a browser.
Now to retract before the default "your a zealot" retort comes forth. Like all OS's windows has its advantages as well as it's drawbacks, but just because Microsoft calls their patches "Service Packes" and Apple calls them by numbers doesn't make Microsoft's updates any more significant.
Look at it this way: Microsoft goes approximately 4 years between major version upgrades and charges about 200-300 (depending on if it's an upgrade and I don't count the home version because it's crippled....osx is not) dollars or more when it's first released. Apple releases theirs twice as fast for less than half the cost. Go figure.
SP2? That's not an update, silly boy, that's a collection of patches as well as a few other patches. When was the last time I got a free patch? hmmm let me see, today actually.
There's no denying that PC's have a greater game selection, but that's a hell of a lot of money to spend on a gaming console if it's your only incentive. It just so happens that all the games I want are offered on Mac and play smooth as can be.
I'd also like to point out that games are written for platforms, not platforms for games. The G5 is an excellant gaming platform with not as many games written for it.
Nothing flame bait about this, except in the rare isntances where the proc is flawed (easily determined with free diagnostic software) processors do not crash...amd or otherwise. The gradparent's post was flamebait all the way. The parent simply set him straight.
I am no professional when it comes to web design - I'm not going to tailor a site for IE. ..
I am a web developer and we DO tailor our sites for IE. When 95% of your viewers are using IE, the last thing your customer wants hear after his mail box fills with complaints about his "crappy website" is: "Well, it's CSS compliant maybe you should tell them to switch to a REAL browser."
You can spout the mantra that it just supports IE's non-standard ways, but in the real world you don't stay in business as a web developer unless it looks good in IE.
Case in point: Slashdot's side bar looks fine in IE but in some cases screws up in Mozilla/Firefox. I'd bet on that being because they had to make sure it rendered right in IE.....even on slashdot.
I'm sorry, but you must be confused as to what a firewall is. I'll clarify:
A firewall blocks all ports which are not explicitly opened for use. It blocks both ingress and egress traffic and does so separately such that port XX may be opened for incoming but not outgoing traffic. Most decent firewalls are also stateful allowing for established or related traffic to be allowed.
So, in short, a firewall goes a long way in preventing any harm due to careless users since though the program can be installed, it would be completely inaffective unless it happened operate on one of your opened ports. I would also allow for inspection of drop and/or reject log entries which would alert you to unexpected scan attempts.
Slashdot Mirror
I'm on a mac, how do I enable that feature for the more obvious mistakes?
(also I use firefox, would it work with firefox?)
...presumed IQ of a nat could transition within... gnat
lmao, nice one. When it comes to spelling, I'm completely retarded.
I believe it took me all of about 10 minutes to figure out that virtually every Ctrl+ combo on a PC is Apple+ on apple. I don't think it took but a couple of days and I was in the full swing of things.
I have some complaints about the mac UI, but really, even the mythical "typical user" with the oft presumed IQ of a nat could transition within a week or so.
Are you using Rules Du Jour
He doesn't really have to address point by point where the sbvt is wrong. Every allegation they had was determined as completely unfounded from many sources including statements made by the sbvt's members prior to the campaign and by a military reassessment of whether Kerry's medals were justly awarded.
This has been well covered on CNN, Newsweek, and various other prevalant news agencies. . . I'd encourage you to look into it. However, I'd suspect that your probably a strict Fox news only kinda guy.
- A. not get paid
- B. Also be docked on the next check.
Personally, I'd just walk into the decision makers offer, say a few choice words, and walk out.A common response to the above:
- They must be an idiot.
No, that simply isn't true. I've helped incredibly intelligent biomedical and mechanical engineering students through 101 CS assignments. They just don't get it. Just because someone isn't a natural at understanding the jargon doesn't make them an idiot. Case in point: www.debian.org/doc/. Ok, um, "User Manuals", that looks promising: here we go, "Debian Installation Manual". Ok, ummm, released version? I guess thats it, lets see:- * Installation Manual for Alpha
- * Installation Manual for ARM
- * Installation Manual for HP PA-RISC
- * Installation Manual for Intel x86
- * Installation Manual for Intel IA-64
- * Installation Manual for Motorola 680x0
- * Installation Manual for MIPS
- * Installation Manual for MIPS (DEC)
- * Installation Manual for PowerPC
- * Installation Manual for IBM S/390
- * Installation Manual for SPARC
WTF? ok, wait I have an Intel...alright *click* Holly Shit!@#$! This thing is like 12 chapters long! Well, *sigh* I've got this far, I'll give it a shot.Now all this before they even get started or know what 'rm' is or 'ifconfig' or any other unix specific command. For most people who've just "heard linux is cool" they've already shown a high degree of commitment to give linux a try. Than they run into problems and if they're lucky and know about IRC can check #freenode and be introduced to some 15 yr/old 1337 kid that bruskly tells them to RTFM (which they tried to) before finding someone that knows how to help and is willing, but if not they end up googling around or giving up.
Really take a step back from "I love to read technical documents!" geek world (of which I'm a member) and admit that Linux documentation is a truly dismal resource to a new user. Even Mandrake,safe haven for newbie users everywhere has some pretty intimidating documentation if you truly attempt to look at it with unbiased eyes: Mandrake Install Especially when it isn't even required for any main strream OS.
Now, perhaps the author has inadvertantly drawn attention to the heart of Linux's adoption woes: documentation. Why doesn't this author know about apt-get? Why doesn't he know about urpmi? Why isn't he aware of the vast amount of documentation normally available in /usr/share/docs/ ?
The common answers people receive for this are:
But to even adept computer users (not uber geeks, just adept) the location of "the manual" isn't obvious, they don't know about */docs and, lets face it, man pages are written FGBG (for geeks, by geeks).
In comparison to it's top two competitors, linux is the only OS to date where a user is expected to magically know the location of appropriate documentation, by default have a degree in the documentation jargon of advanced coders, and to be willing to read a small novel on the intricacies of his particular distro's package and system management methods to even use the os to any degree of efficiency.
This is what people mean when they say Linux isn't ready *yet* and to tie it back to the article, these are exactly the sort of apparently groundless complaints that surface as a result of this gaping hole in useability.
I would under no circumstances implement PHP5 at this time. The point I was making (perhaps not clearly enough) is that if your running debian stable it may not even make it to your production/development servers this decade. Of course, when it is 'ready' is a matter of subjective opinion. I have found that in almost every case the vast majority of IT's find a product ready for production sometimes years before debian does.
In regards to the rest of the post you are 100% correct. Once again I apologize for my hurried, unclear post. By 'workstation' I was referring to the workstation environment which, of course, is determined by the development server. No, the developers do not determine what environment is appropriate, however they do provide feedback as to what would make their job easier. Since Debian's package management system is extremely unflexible, ultimately you are placing the decisions into the hands of the Debian development team rather than where they belong: your companies IT department.
Almost every single argument for using a current versions of a given software on a workstation are equally valid for implementing that software in a server environment. .so what are you going to do when the developers have php5 on their workstations and none of the code works?
One quick eample: PHP5 brings public and private classes/functions/variables to php. This is something I and other develpers would like to use. However, if your running Debian stable, the odds of seening that in an even remotely acceptable time frame are remote. . .
I'd like to add: NEVER buy apple ram, it's just cheap namebrand value ram. For the same price you can get top of the line at any retailer.
The reason you trust your government is because at this particular point in time your definition of a criminal act happens to loosely coincide with that of the powers that be. However, the assertion that sometime in the future for your children or grandchildren that pleasant circumstance may not exist is more a historical fact than any tin foil hat wearing paraonoia.
When it comes to issues of civil liberties, it's a good excercise to imagine the most extremist views in your society that you disagree with and ask yourself: "Would I want that guy deciding who is the criminal and who is not? Which person to film and which to ignore?"
The answer is almost always a resounding NO! We all do things that may be legal today, but were it up to certain fringe parties would not be tomorrow.
The problem with those so willing to give up civil liberties won by civil war and extreme social unrest is that they always imagine that the guy behind the government camera agrees with them.
-- James
- Raise absolute hell and look like some stressed out moron.
- Pick up your laptop and walk to the library.
Guess which one results in more work getting done?Try not to be too dense. Buy another mouse. Just like every other gamer in the world.
The incremental upgrade paths of x86 certainly can't be beat. Have you checked out the cost of a single "upgrade board" for apple lately. Sheesh!
Here's an all too common example:
- Page written and validated
- In Firefox there is something "off" about the rendering, not severe but a bit off
- Renders fine in IE.
- Customer is paying a 250,000/yr retainer fee and $100 per hour per job
- Customer has explicitly said, "We could give a rat's ass about cross browser compatibility and dont' want to waste our money toward that goal........if it renders in IE, push it live and move on".
What do you do? If you answered: "Make it compatible anyway". That's being dishonest with your employer at best.You also assume that every site you work on was created from scratch in shop. This simply isn't true. You've obviously never had a major pile of Dreamweaver, poorly written, unvalidated, crap in your lap. Told what addition or "repair" needed to be done and given a strict time limit to do it in. Sometimes it's not YOUR code that's directly causing the problem and if it works in IE ....move on.
You want cross browser compatibility? You got it, love to see folks willing to shell out the cash to have a job done right.
Now I'm not making any definitive claim about the actual stance of Kerry or his wish-washiness (or lack thereof), but if that's the best you can do......You sir are an---> Idiot.
Long story short, I went to Newegg and put together a comparable Dual Opteraon system (performance and quality of hardware). The cost difference was approximately 300 in the opterons favor.
But than you start adding software that compares to what comes standard with OSX, throw in the convenience of having one company to answer to possible warranty issues, and one of the finest cooling/case setups I've had the pleasure of seeing and there really isn't that much difference at all.
What it comes down to is: what do you want? If your bitching about a couple of hundred dollars on a machine that costs several thousand, your just looking for excuses.
Now is the time for someone to post his newegg configuration with cheap ram, a 25 dollar case with generic PSU, and consumer level motherboard for a thousand dollars less than the G5......you can have it.
You should have read the parent, my exact point was that there is nothing exceptionally special about Microsoft's updates and Apple does the same thing, which you do rightly point out.
Anyone can read the release notes and they all sound really shiny, the apple 10.3.5 release notes sound just as spiffy:
Huge architecture change! Better NFS support, Improved Mail and Image capture!! Improved font management! Better mounting of Networked Home directories! Blah, blah, blah...
Now to retract before the default "your a zealot" retort comes forth. Like all OS's windows has its advantages as well as it's drawbacks, but just because Microsoft calls their patches "Service Packes" and Apple calls them by numbers doesn't make Microsoft's updates any more significant.
Look at it this way: Microsoft goes approximately 4 years between major version upgrades and charges about 200-300 (depending on if it's an upgrade and I don't count the home version because it's crippled....osx is not) dollars or more when it's first released. Apple releases theirs twice as fast for less than half the cost. Go figure.
SP2? That's not an update, silly boy, that's a collection of patches as well as a few other patches. When was the last time I got a free patch? hmmm let me see, today actually.
There's no denying that PC's have a greater game selection, but that's a hell of a lot of money to spend on a gaming console if it's your only incentive. It just so happens that all the games I want are offered on Mac and play smooth as can be.
I'd also like to point out that games are written for platforms, not platforms for games. The G5 is an excellant gaming platform with not as many games written for it.
Silly boy. Future comparisons between CPU's of the same class do not negate that the current comparison is between CPU's of a different class.
Nothing flame bait about this, except in the rare isntances where the proc is flawed (easily determined with free diagnostic software) processors do not crash...amd or otherwise. The gradparent's post was flamebait all the way. The parent simply set him straight.
I am a web developer and we DO tailor our sites for IE. When 95% of your viewers are using IE, the last thing your customer wants hear after his mail box fills with complaints about his "crappy website" is: "Well, it's CSS compliant maybe you should tell them to switch to a REAL browser."
You can spout the mantra that it just supports IE's non-standard ways, but in the real world you don't stay in business as a web developer unless it looks good in IE.
Case in point: Slashdot's side bar looks fine in IE but in some cases screws up in Mozilla/Firefox. I'd bet on that being because they had to make sure it rendered right in IE.....even on slashdot.
A firewall blocks all ports which are not explicitly opened for use. It blocks both ingress and egress traffic and does so separately such that port XX may be opened for incoming but not outgoing traffic. Most decent firewalls are also stateful allowing for established or related traffic to be allowed.
So, in short, a firewall goes a long way in preventing any harm due to careless users since though the program can be installed, it would be completely inaffective unless it happened operate on one of your opened ports. I would also allow for inspection of drop and/or reject log entries which would alert you to unexpected scan attempts.