I agree. I suckered myself into buying a laptop (cheapest I could get new) to take notes after going back to college because I could type much faster than I could write.
However, they really aren't there for note taking - and lots of classes have really bursty notes, some days you'll take lots, other days none. The laptop weighs more than most notebooks will, so you're not saving space unless you carry all your day's books and such the whole day.
Some classes, like programming, are easier on a laptop if you can run the IDE on it, but you still can get the same help by asking during lab or during office hours. And the professor is usually happier to meet you during posted hours than to stay after class and try and help you on your laptop.
Laptops are pretty much not upgradable, and mostly cost far more than a desktop. I just have yet to get any real use out of it beyond watching movies.
This assumes you are going to print a book to read it. Just as I don't burn a CD, but rather rip it to MP3 on my PC, I don't print books but read them on my e-book reader.
Sorry, no. I was being somewhat flippant - ie, if the manufacturers can screw you by making the clothes in China, maybe you can get back at them by buying from a chinese wholesaler or something.
Like, I can choose between Ford, Chevy or Toyata - but they are all companies that charge for their product.
I can choose between Tide or Whisk or Purex, but again, same "propriatary" choices.
No one is complaining about lack of laundry detergent freedom. No, all that is necessary is open standards, so anyone can create a drop in replacement. Whether it's OSS or not doesn't really matter.
Ok, but assuming any sort of decent browser security (which really ought to be a given by now), viewing a webpage isn't going to do anything. It cannot infect you, it cannot steal information etc.
They were asked to verify a web (intranet?) posting of their grades. If it was wrong, I'm guessing there are normal procedures to deal with that, which would be followed. This is only valid if they were going to provide additional information, or break from standard procedures based on what was on the website.
I personally do not consider this a successful phish. I don't even see it as much of an attempt - clicking on a link should be harmless.
What's interesting is that in that instance, I don't think anyone is blaming the Road Crew for providing roads the con - artists drive on.
They complain to the police - which is what people ought to do here.
The only thing that could be done beyond the bayesian filtering and such that is already done on request, would be to charge some outrageous fee to have some tech *read* the e-mail's first and filter out any scams. And there's all sorts of problems with that.
Well, a good question is why the police aren't rounding them up. But anyway, maybe this ought to figure in the RIAA's plans - stopping this sort of sales is likely like stopping the sale of drugs.
But they have another attack vector that the war on drugs doesn't have - a legal version. Maybe they need to get their prices down to push these people out - say to $6. Then these people would need to further drop their prices to really compete - say to $2, but at that price, are they making a profit anymore?
I mean, a CD + ink + case is getting close to $1. Then there's the time, labor and risk, is a $1 over cost enough to cover all that?
Well, maybe this is a troll, maybe not, but have you tried Opera?
I will personally vouch for it working for 75-80% of webpages. Of course, those 20% might end up being the 20% you use most, I don't know. However, in v8, they've really gone a long way towards doing what proxomitron users could do all along - without the complexity.
I'm talking about UA.ini + browser.js. They are automatically updated once a week with fixes for sites that are broken. That's right, Opera will push fixes for broken websites to your browser.
And then there's user.js and userjs.org which is a central place to get user fixes for sites that Opera hasn't heard about or gotten around to fixing yet.
OTOH, I still also push proxomitron for any browser. Use a nice filterset like grypens, and update it occasionally and it fixes many pages without you knowing it. Rightclick on icon, bypass and reload if it messes up a page (not often).
This is one reason I use Opera over FireFox. I do have lots of time, but I prefer to spend it on what I want to do rather than tinkering with my browser. That said, I still have to do some work because of the IE only sites, bad browser sniffing, and my enjoyment of blocking ads using proxomitron.
Then there are people like me who will just not use that website. I've gotten along without using IE since 2001, and got along with out using it till 1999.
Amazon, Ebay and news sites all work fine in any browser I've tried. Banking is the only stickler, I'm just lucky that HSBC accepts any browser.
Seriously, as a prodoctivity tool, I haven't ever run into a site that doesn't work with multiple browsers.
It's the waste time things like videos or that cute flash animation or that online game that have problems. But if I'm using the net to get stuff done, those aren't real high on my list. And with very little effort, I can usually get those to work too. Maybe 75% of the time, which again, is more than enough.
And more and more niche sites are working with other browsers. GMail now works with most browsers, Streamload (file management) updated their DHTML a year ago to work in all browsers - with java for bulk uploading, so you don't even lose out on that. Heck, my college even updated their site from a broken IE menu system to a cross browser implementation last year.
Hmmm, well - I certainly wasn't aware of that. I've never met anyone who doesn't have Java installed on their PC, and most people have some sort of J2ME on their internet ready phones.
Except going forward, ActiveX isn't a given in IE either. As I understand it, XPSP2 turns it off. So unless you want to have to deal with telling your users how to turn it back on (not exactly simple IIRC) that's gone.
So, the question I also have is, where does it make sense to have things work in most/all browsers? When IE is at 80%? 70%? 50%? Never?
I am actually suprised that many business are ready to flat out drop 12.8% of their market. I could understand it when it was 2%, but 12.8%?
You know, that's rather crap. I use a file storage site called streamload which Implements batch uploads in a way that works in IE, FF, Opera and other browsers. You know how? They used Java.
See, if you look at supporting most or all browsers from the start rather than one, you can create something that will work in all of them (like a java applet) rather than having to double your work.
Well, I think those questions are very important to advertising in general, and *should* be decided by the court - or else we'll just have to wait and have another lawsuit about the same issue in print or some other medium.
Anyway - haven't there been lots of ads in other media that were fine with mentioning the competitor? Like all those Visa ads - xxx doesn't take American Express and such?
Yeah, I understand that feeling. Site composers like that for IE haven't convinced me to start using IE again, so I doubt it would work in reverse. At this point, sites are losing somewhere around 5-10% of their possible userbase/customers when they do that. I think it's only likely to grow, though FF had a slip there last month.
Why? Because FF isn't the only alternative. Some people who tried FF and didn't like it may end up liking Opera. With more Mac's getting mainstream, you can bet that Safari is going to climb.
And then there is the forgotten stepchild - cellphones. Many of them run Opera Mobile. Now there's Opera Mini. Plus there's 20 different platform specific implementations.
You won't get far suggesting these people download IE6...
Couldn't you GZIP each page once per change (obviously no good for dynamic pages, but for blogs, each post would only need to be done once. Unless you get comments like on slashdot, it's unlikely you'd have to gzip more than once every few minutes or so. And then serve that file like you would any other file?
I'd guess it's a little of both. Sadly, it seems easier to soical enginere people than it is to hack systems. Although, the long awaited update in XPSP2 to finally stop IE from installing things without asking people really helps all those with half a clue who still use IE.
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I agree. I suckered myself into buying a laptop (cheapest I could get new) to take notes after going back to college because I could type much faster than I could write.
However, they really aren't there for note taking - and lots of classes have really bursty notes, some days you'll take lots, other days none. The laptop weighs more than most notebooks will, so you're not saving space unless you carry all your day's books and such the whole day.
Some classes, like programming, are easier on a laptop if you can run the IDE on it, but you still can get the same help by asking during lab or during office hours. And the professor is usually happier to meet you during posted hours than to stay after class and try and help you on your laptop.
Laptops are pretty much not upgradable, and mostly cost far more than a desktop. I just have yet to get any real use out of it beyond watching movies.
Archon and Mail Order Monsters were the bomb. Sooo much fun.
This assumes you are going to print a book to read it. Just as I don't burn a CD, but rather rip it to MP3 on my PC, I don't print books but read them on my e-book reader.
Sorry, no. I was being somewhat flippant - ie, if the manufacturers can screw you by making the clothes in China, maybe you can get back at them by buying from a chinese wholesaler or something.
Isn't that the way it normally is?
Like, I can choose between Ford, Chevy or Toyata - but they are all companies that charge for their product.
I can choose between Tide or Whisk or Purex, but again, same "propriatary" choices.
No one is complaining about lack of laundry detergent freedom. No, all that is necessary is open standards, so anyone can create a drop in replacement. Whether it's OSS or not doesn't really matter.
Have you tried ordering via the internet from some foreign country?
But what information did they leak? That they are going to check on their grades? If you need to phish some student to find that out ...
They didn't get asked to login or anything. All it did was immediately tell them they shouldn't have clicked a link in an e-mail.
Now, if they got them to login using school access accounts, that's different.
I wonder if that would work?
Ok, but assuming any sort of decent browser security (which really ought to be a given by now), viewing a webpage isn't going to do anything. It cannot infect you, it cannot steal information etc.
They were asked to verify a web (intranet?) posting of their grades. If it was wrong, I'm guessing there are normal procedures to deal with that, which would be followed. This is only valid if they were going to provide additional information, or break from standard procedures based on what was on the website.
I personally do not consider this a successful phish. I don't even see it as much of an attempt - clicking on a link should be harmless.
What's interesting is that in that instance, I don't think anyone is blaming the Road Crew for providing roads the con - artists drive on.
They complain to the police - which is what people ought to do here.
The only thing that could be done beyond the bayesian filtering and such that is already done on request, would be to charge some outrageous fee to have some tech *read* the e-mail's first and filter out any scams. And there's all sorts of problems with that.
Well, a good question is why the police aren't rounding them up. But anyway, maybe this ought to figure in the RIAA's plans - stopping this sort of sales is likely like stopping the sale of drugs.
But they have another attack vector that the war on drugs doesn't have - a legal version. Maybe they need to get their prices down to push these people out - say to $6. Then these people would need to further drop their prices to really compete - say to $2, but at that price, are they making a profit anymore?
I mean, a CD + ink + case is getting close to $1. Then there's the time, labor and risk, is a $1 over cost enough to cover all that?
Well, maybe this is a troll, maybe not, but have you tried Opera?
I will personally vouch for it working for 75-80% of webpages. Of course, those 20% might end up being the 20% you use most, I don't know. However, in v8, they've really gone a long way towards doing what proxomitron users could do all along - without the complexity.
I'm talking about UA.ini + browser.js. They are automatically updated once a week with fixes for sites that are broken. That's right, Opera will push fixes for broken websites to your browser.
And then there's user.js and userjs.org which is a central place to get user fixes for sites that Opera hasn't heard about or gotten around to fixing yet.
OTOH, I still also push proxomitron for any browser. Use a nice filterset like grypens, and update it occasionally and it fixes many pages without you knowing it. Rightclick on icon, bypass and reload if it messes up a page (not often).
This is one reason I use Opera over FireFox. I do have lots of time, but I prefer to spend it on what I want to do rather than tinkering with my browser. That said, I still have to do some work because of the IE only sites, bad browser sniffing, and my enjoyment of blocking ads using proxomitron.
Then there are people like me who will just not use that website. I've gotten along without using IE since 2001, and got along with out using it till 1999.
Amazon, Ebay and news sites all work fine in any browser I've tried. Banking is the only stickler, I'm just lucky that HSBC accepts any browser.
Seriously, as a prodoctivity tool, I haven't ever run into a site that doesn't work with multiple browsers.
It's the waste time things like videos or that cute flash animation or that online game that have problems. But if I'm using the net to get stuff done, those aren't real high on my list. And with very little effort, I can usually get those to work too. Maybe 75% of the time, which again, is more than enough.
And more and more niche sites are working with other browsers. GMail now works with most browsers, Streamload (file management) updated their DHTML a year ago to work in all browsers - with java for bulk uploading, so you don't even lose out on that. Heck, my college even updated their site from a broken IE menu system to a cross browser implementation last year.
Hmmm, well - I certainly wasn't aware of that. I've never met anyone who doesn't have Java installed on their PC, and most people have some sort of J2ME on their internet ready phones.
I'm repeating myself, but have you tried any of the other browsers? There are more than IE and FireFox, though according to most you wouldn't know it.
There's Mozilla's SeaMonky, K-Melon, Opera, Dillo and more. Assuming the reason you tried FF was you didn't like IE that much.
Also, have you tried any of the other alternatives like the Mozilla Suite, Opera, or that other gecko wrapper?
Except going forward, ActiveX isn't a given in IE either. As I understand it, XPSP2 turns it off. So unless you want to have to deal with telling your users how to turn it back on (not exactly simple IIRC) that's gone.
So, the question I also have is, where does it make sense to have things work in most/all browsers? When IE is at 80%? 70%? 50%? Never?
I am actually suprised that many business are ready to flat out drop 12.8% of their market. I could understand it when it was 2%, but 12.8%?
You know, that's rather crap. I use a file storage site called streamload which Implements batch uploads in a way that works in IE, FF, Opera and other browsers. You know how? They used Java.
See, if you look at supporting most or all browsers from the start rather than one, you can create something that will work in all of them (like a java applet) rather than having to double your work.
Well, I think those questions are very important to advertising in general, and *should* be decided by the court - or else we'll just have to wait and have another lawsuit about the same issue in print or some other medium.
Anyway - haven't there been lots of ads in other media that were fine with mentioning the competitor? Like all those Visa ads - xxx doesn't take American Express and such?
Yeah, I understand that feeling. Site composers like that for IE haven't convinced me to start using IE again, so I doubt it would work in reverse. At this point, sites are losing somewhere around 5-10% of their possible userbase/customers when they do that. I think it's only likely to grow, though FF had a slip there last month.
Why? Because FF isn't the only alternative. Some people who tried FF and didn't like it may end up liking Opera. With more Mac's getting mainstream, you can bet that Safari is going to climb.
And then there is the forgotten stepchild - cellphones. Many of them run Opera Mobile. Now there's Opera Mini. Plus there's 20 different platform specific implementations.
You won't get far suggesting these people download IE6...
Couldn't you GZIP each page once per change (obviously no good for dynamic pages, but for blogs, each post would only need to be done once. Unless you get comments like on slashdot, it's unlikely you'd have to gzip more than once every few minutes or so. And then serve that file like you would any other file?
I'd guess it's a little of both. Sadly, it seems easier to soical enginere people than it is to hack systems. Although, the long awaited update in XPSP2 to finally stop IE from installing things without asking people really helps all those with half a clue who still use IE.
AFAIK, Opera and FF currently both use the same plugin interface, the NS4 one...
Seems to work fine in Opera 8.02 - also, proxomitron did make it click to play - so maybe a problem with flashblock?