And that could lead to so many cool plot lines IMHO.
Like, lets say they run a series set after Voyager. The last IMHO cool aliens were the Borg - and First Contact/Voyager messed them up. The original borg were very scary just by how different they were from what we expect. Having a Queen just destroys that.
Back on topic - What about finding more information about "The Preservers" IIRC? What about the creaters of the Guardian of Forever? (there was a great novel about that)...
What about the Traveller (I know, I know, but we can leave Wesley home)?
It's not a bad thing to take previous issues and continue them. What do the two movies often rated the best have in common? An enemy that was in the series first!
You're right that the prequal Enterprise was messed up a lot. (For one, I kept wondering where the Time Police from Voyager or Q was with all the timeline altering)
I actually really liked Alias season 1. I was unable to watch season 2 very much, so until I catch up I can't say too much.
From what I hear, I do think Alias may be beginning to have a problem with not knowing when to end. IE, the main arc is done - end the show.
I think trying to transition some stories, like Alias's into new arcs breaks the show. Like how Matrix as one movie was awesome, but trying to extend to a trilogy basically ruined it. IMHO of course.
And I'll give newer eps a chance when I can get the DVDs from netflix or whatever.
I don't know about that. I think it just makes buying the series on DVD even more attractive. I mean, Series on DVD are already much nicer than on TV - better quality (unless you get digital cable + HDTV), no commercials...
Personally I do think there is room for both styles of shows, but I think many younger people are getting into continuity/story arc over a season, even to the very limited sort in Survivor. And many younger people are Anime fans, which is often big on set arcs.
Then you get a number of older (30+) people liking B5, new Battlestar Galatica over Enterprise style and . . .
Untrue. I recently downloaded a windows 2.x app pack for kicks, and was able to run that Notepad in XP just fine. Actually, I could also run the Windows 1.0 notepad, but it didn't specify the size of the window so looked weird.
Well, isn't Firefox now at ~7% or so? And Opera at ~2% with that to grow on mobile devices? And Safari about the same? We're talking about 11% there, and currently FF is still growing.
I think it's likely that for Windows/Mac/Linux/Mobile we'll see non-IE at 15-20% of the entire market this year. I doubt that will change much afterwards as none of the companies have been stomped out yet (in many years of MS competition, and FF isn't a company).
I don't care how wiz-bang whatever your product is, I can't figure many big sites are going to write off 20% of the users out of the gate.
What I don't understand is why this can't be done already in Java?
Better yet, why the heck do you want to run apps in a web browser? I just don't see it. Any web based app I've used has been a pale shadow of what a standard client app could do.
Remembering back to a discussion awhile ago, isn't there a copyright distribution issue with the "consumer" cheap version that would slam a rental store, vs buying the expensive "for limited redistribution" version? Isn't that how CDs are prevented from being rented?
Yeah, if Amazon sold movies for ~$5 including shipping (somewhere near the cost of netflix, and blank DVDs, adjusted a little for time saved) I think they'd likely make a lot of sales. They could go to $6 for the nice lining and such. The problem is that really doesn't leave much for the studios...
In what way is a cell phone cheaper than a landline? Anyone I know who has service with any of the big providers (Sprint or Verizon - they actually work in upstate NY around Ithaca and also when away at college) pay $50-$60 a month. We pay $27 a month. We use LD via a prepaid calling card at $0.03/min.
We'd have to talk for 750 minutes long distance to break even with one to break even with a cell phone. That is a lot of LD, and it's anytime minutes if you will. Plus, the quality is better on a landline. Plus, we can also use the internet over that line (dial up is all that is available where we live).
Even if we were somehow fused to LD calls, for an equal cost to the cell phone, we could get unlimited calling anywhere, anytime. With masses of calling features. I have yet to see any cell plans with straight unlimited access.
Oh, and the best part with our current setup? Unused LD minutes roll over.
Interestingly enough, when I view the same link with Opera through proxomitron, I see the FAQ. I think it's thanks to the "Fake Referrer Header" filter.
I'm working my way through this guy's prodigious website, and I have some issues with his statements.
The claim that applications should cease to exist is nonsensical to me. That would be like saying rooms should cease to exist in houses.
Then he goes on to say that all commands should be available all the time, and applicable to all objects. This is also bunk - most Photoshop commands aren't going to be applicable to an mp3 file for instance.
I do agree with standardizing commands as much as possible, but the idea that there should only ever be one way to do something is... specious at best - people work in different ways, and one of the best things about current OSs is the ability to customize (at least to a limited degree) the system to how YOU work. I'd love to see Opera style mouse guestures in Windows explorer for instance.
I do like the idea of plugins, but he's missing another issue - as bad as windows is now with install garbage, imagine a system where anything you install TRIES to integrate BHO style to EVERY "PROGRAM" on your system.
Then there is the loading/resources issue. I may use Photoshop for instance every other day. The days I'm not using it, it's not loaded in memory or trying to act on my text files or whatever.When I am using it, it has everything ready to go.
Now imagine his system, where part of Photoshop is always running, and it's constantly seeing if what I did is somehow related to what it does, and figuring out if it should get involved (without mindreading I cannot see how he expects all these different systems to figure out which one I meant when there are no application boundaries.) and loading parts into and out of memory. You know what I hate? Right clicking something and waiting 30 seconds for the various whatevers to get loaded to display the menu. This sounds like that x 1000.
I still have yet to see a 3d or spatial system that worked very well. It just misses the fact that Space per se, and spatial navigation have no real relationship as to how a computer works.
I think that abstracting the interface too far from what actually happens can lead to disasterous misconceptions by people as well.
Interestingly enough, I've recently started using WMP, just for the brightness/contrast controls. For some reason many videos I watch come out very dark on my LCD...
Well, according to http://www.halfhill.com/inflation.html, and the associated documented inflation rates (remember early 80s had 13% one year):
1980 2005 $4 $10.41 $9 $23.44
However it is also interesting to note that where books have stayed equal when adjusted for inflation, the change from (as you say) complex manufacturing procedure to a simple one has reached no gains.
It is also interesting to note that where many physically created items have not only gone down in price, they have dropped in inflation adjusted costs as well.
As one person on slashdot asks, why do DVD players cost the same as DVDs?
Interestingly enough, I much prefer that method. Otherwise I have to go hunting for other parts of the app. One reason why I won't touch the GIMP, the screenshots alone tell me I'd be constantly losing half the application. Also one of the things I really disliked the few times I was using MacOSX, I could never tell what apps file menu I was accessing. Very confusing.
I get what you mean now. MDI is a windows convention, and works well in windows. If you are using say KDE, it's entirely different. I haven't had much luck getting a nicely integrated virtual desktop on Windows.
I'm not at all sure what you are saying here, but you can have as many MDI Opera windows as you want. File - New Window gives you a new window on the taskbar...
I think tabbed browsing's usefullness has to do with how you browse. I'm not even sure this is possible in IE, but in Opera I can load up the main slashdot page, and middle click every link that is interesting to me, and then go through the tabs that have loaded in the background. They are already there and good to go.
Another thing is a new tab is significantly faster for me to open than another instance of IE on my A64 3400+ with 1GB of PC3200 RAM. New tab in Opera - instant. New IE, ~2 seconds.
Grouped bookmarks/sessions - both extremely useful. Never "end" your browsing session, always start off where you left off before. Save various projects where you have several pages open, and with one File - session - open get them all back (even multiple windows).
Some MDI stuff is nice too - linked pages can be very helpful for insta-table of contents...
Keeping the 5-15 webpages out of my 5-10 programs running is also a lifesaver for me... Oh, I hate the XP program grouping, slows me down no end grrr.
And that could lead to so many cool plot lines IMHO.
Like, lets say they run a series set after Voyager. The last IMHO cool aliens were the Borg - and First Contact/Voyager messed them up. The original borg were very scary just by how different they were from what we expect. Having a Queen just destroys that.
Back on topic - What about finding more information about "The Preservers" IIRC? What about the creaters of the Guardian of Forever? (there was a great novel about that)...
What about the Traveller (I know, I know, but we can leave Wesley home)?
It's not a bad thing to take previous issues and continue them. What do the two movies often rated the best have in common? An enemy that was in the series first!
You're right that the prequal Enterprise was messed up a lot. (For one, I kept wondering where the Time Police from Voyager or Q was with all the timeline altering)
I actually really liked Alias season 1. I was unable to watch season 2 very much, so until I catch up I can't say too much.
From what I hear, I do think Alias may be beginning to have a problem with not knowing when to end. IE, the main arc is done - end the show.
I think trying to transition some stories, like Alias's into new arcs breaks the show. Like how Matrix as one movie was awesome, but trying to extend to a trilogy basically ruined it. IMHO of course.
And I'll give newer eps a chance when I can get the DVDs from netflix or whatever.
I don't know about that. I think it just makes buying the series on DVD even more attractive. I mean, Series on DVD are already much nicer than on TV - better quality (unless you get digital cable + HDTV), no commercials...
Personally I do think there is room for both styles of shows, but I think many younger people are getting into continuity/story arc over a season, even to the very limited sort in Survivor. And many younger people are Anime fans, which is often big on set arcs.
Then you get a number of older (30+) people liking B5, new Battlestar Galatica over Enterprise style and . . .
Untrue. I recently downloaded a windows 2.x app pack for kicks, and was able to run that Notepad in XP just fine. Actually, I could also run the Windows 1.0 notepad, but it didn't specify the size of the window so looked weird.
And you have Opera making a strong play for mobile devices...
Plus it's presto in Adobe GoLive (whether that affects anyone or not IDK).
Well, isn't Firefox now at ~7% or so? And Opera at ~2% with that to grow on mobile devices? And Safari about the same? We're talking about 11% there, and currently FF is still growing.
I think it's likely that for Windows/Mac/Linux/Mobile we'll see non-IE at 15-20% of the entire market this year. I doubt that will change much afterwards as none of the companies have been stomped out yet (in many years of MS competition, and FF isn't a company).
I don't care how wiz-bang whatever your product is, I can't figure many big sites are going to write off 20% of the users out of the gate.
What I don't understand is why this can't be done already in Java?
Better yet, why the heck do you want to run apps in a web browser? I just don't see it. Any web based app I've used has been a pale shadow of what a standard client app could do.
There are lots of other shells also, like GeoShell. One would expect MS might be able to buy/license one of those if they wanted to.
I don't know how people do it, but I've always found IE to be average in startup time (about the same as Opera) and dog slow at browsing.
Remembering back to a discussion awhile ago, isn't there a copyright distribution issue with the "consumer" cheap version that would slam a rental store, vs buying the expensive "for limited redistribution" version? Isn't that how CDs are prevented from being rented?
Well, I browse with the mouse most of the time also, and fail to see how clowsing a tab is any harder (or takes longer) than closing the browser...
Let's see - you know the upper right hand corner of the browser, where the X is to close the program? Right under that is another X to close the tab.
Or, I could rightclick in the page and drag down. Or I could just middle click the tab.
This is Opera though.
As to the tabs in the taskbar, it makes it much messier to have 5-10 sites open with other software.
Yeah, if Amazon sold movies for ~$5 including shipping (somewhere near the cost of netflix, and blank DVDs, adjusted a little for time saved) I think they'd likely make a lot of sales. They could go to $6 for the nice lining and such. The problem is that really doesn't leave much for the studios...
Well, I browser with the mouse most of the time also, and fail to see how clowsing a tab is any harder (or takes longer) than closing the browser...
Let's see - you know the upper right hand corner of the browser, where the X is to close the program? Right under that is another X to close the tab.
Or, I could rightclick in the page and drag down. Or I could just middle click the tab.
This is Opera though.
In what way is a cell phone cheaper than a landline? Anyone I know who has service with any of the big providers (Sprint or Verizon - they actually work in upstate NY around Ithaca and also when away at college) pay $50-$60 a month. We pay $27 a month. We use LD via a prepaid calling card at $0.03/min.
We'd have to talk for 750 minutes long distance to break even with one to break even with a cell phone. That is a lot of LD, and it's anytime minutes if you will. Plus, the quality is better on a landline. Plus, we can also use the internet over that line (dial up is all that is available where we live).
Even if we were somehow fused to LD calls, for an equal cost to the cell phone, we could get unlimited calling anywhere, anytime. With masses of calling features. I have yet to see any cell plans with straight unlimited access.
Oh, and the best part with our current setup? Unused LD minutes roll over.
So scientists have been able to isolate HIV now... That clears some things up for me (FARK lead me astray).
And HIV definately leads to AIDS...
http://www.duesberg.com/books/pdbinvent.html
Well, good to clear that up then.
Interestingly enough, when I view the same link with Opera through proxomitron, I see the FAQ. I think it's thanks to the "Fake Referrer Header" filter.
I'm working my way through this guy's prodigious website, and I have some issues with his statements.
... specious at best - people work in different ways, and one of the best things about current OSs is the ability to customize (at least to a limited degree) the system to how YOU work. I'd love to see Opera style mouse guestures in Windows explorer for instance.
The claim that applications should cease to exist is nonsensical to me. That would be like saying rooms should cease to exist in houses.
Then he goes on to say that all commands should be available all the time, and applicable to all objects. This is also bunk - most Photoshop commands aren't going to be applicable to an mp3 file for instance.
I do agree with standardizing commands as much as possible, but the idea that there should only ever be one way to do something is
I do like the idea of plugins, but he's missing another issue - as bad as windows is now with install garbage, imagine a system where anything you install TRIES to integrate BHO style to EVERY "PROGRAM" on your system.
Then there is the loading/resources issue. I may use Photoshop for instance every other day. The days I'm not using it, it's not loaded in memory or trying to act on my text files or whatever.When I am using it, it has everything ready to go.
Now imagine his system, where part of Photoshop is always running, and it's constantly seeing if what I did is somehow related to what it does, and figuring out if it should get involved (without mindreading I cannot see how he expects all these different systems to figure out which one I meant when there are no application boundaries.) and loading parts into and out of memory. You know what I hate? Right clicking something and waiting 30 seconds for the various whatevers to get loaded to display the menu. This sounds like that x 1000.
I still have yet to see a 3d or spatial system that worked very well. It just misses the fact that Space per se, and spatial navigation have no real relationship as to how a computer works.
I think that abstracting the interface too far from what actually happens can lead to disasterous misconceptions by people as well.
Interestingly enough, I've recently started using WMP, just for the brightness/contrast controls. For some reason many videos I watch come out very dark on my LCD...
Well, according to http://www.halfhill.com/inflation.html, and the associated documented inflation rates (remember early 80s had 13% one year):
1980 2005
$4 $10.41
$9 $23.44
However it is also interesting to note that where books have stayed equal when adjusted for inflation, the change from (as you say) complex manufacturing procedure to a simple one has reached no gains.
It is also interesting to note that where many physically created items have not only gone down in price, they have dropped in inflation adjusted costs as well.
As one person on slashdot asks, why do DVD players cost the same as DVDs?
Interestingly enough, I much prefer that method. Otherwise I have to go hunting for other parts of the app. One reason why I won't touch the GIMP, the screenshots alone tell me I'd be constantly losing half the application. Also one of the things I really disliked the few times I was using MacOSX, I could never tell what apps file menu I was accessing. Very confusing.
Seems the same as netflix to me... People just aren't used to renting music, but it sounds like a better version of XM Radio.
Although, with a decent WM and virtual desktops, there is no reason for tabs either, just group by desktop.
I get what you mean now. MDI is a windows convention, and works well in windows. If you are using say KDE, it's entirely different. I haven't had much luck getting a nicely integrated virtual desktop on Windows.
I'm not at all sure what you are saying here, but you can have as many MDI Opera windows as you want. File - New Window gives you a new window on the taskbar...
I think tabbed browsing's usefullness has to do with how you browse. I'm not even sure this is possible in IE, but in Opera I can load up the main slashdot page, and middle click every link that is interesting to me, and then go through the tabs that have loaded in the background. They are already there and good to go.
...
Another thing is a new tab is significantly faster for me to open than another instance of IE on my A64 3400+ with 1GB of PC3200 RAM. New tab in Opera - instant. New IE, ~2 seconds.
Grouped bookmarks/sessions - both extremely useful. Never "end" your browsing session, always start off where you left off before. Save various projects where you have several pages open, and with one File - session - open get them all back (even multiple windows).
Some MDI stuff is nice too - linked pages can be very helpful for insta-table of contents
Keeping the 5-15 webpages out of my 5-10 programs running is also a lifesaver for me... Oh, I hate the XP program grouping, slows me down no end grrr.