I'd look at the in-your-face, under-the-hood, and behind-the-back services before blaming the eye candy. Unless you mean the eye candy as the instant messanger, anti-virus, quicktime and office quickstart programs, and the other notifications you have in your icon notification area. Nearly all of them is tapped into a running program, stealing cycles from your system. Also look at the services started on your behalf, including the built-in (and arguably nearly useless) firewall and other security checkers. Unless you're running the game in a window you're not using the eye candy anyway.
That and you should get the up-to-date drivers for your video card, and verify that the refresh rates in your desktop settings match your expectations.
Running the same game on the same PC dual-booted to Windows will get 80fps while the same game on LINUX will get 125fps on ye ol' AGP nVidia 6600. Native versions of the game, mind you, not any kind of emulator.
Even easier, two words: full-screen VNC. Hyphenated is it two or three? I'm sure I'll be corrected.
I do this all the time between LINUX, Solaris, Mac, Windows. I'm at one machine and need to do something screwy and GUI on another; VNC to the rescue. Takes about two minutes to set up, and in full-screen mode, easy to do with no photo alterations. And the mouse and keyboards work.
After two minutes searching, I found the link to the file archives, in which there is gp2x Embedded Linux Source. I'm downloading now, so it may be the case I eat my words, but it looks like the peeps behind the kernel have released the source.
M$'s idea of abstracting the network from the individual software (isn't Sun trying that now?) resulted in deep integration of IE into the other Explorer that is the desktop and file-browser.
If you look at it from an abstract and high enough view, there's little difference to looking at a directory on your hard drive and one on an HTTP or FTP server. *NIX mount points are the kind of the same way; it doesn't matter if its a resource on your system or another.
The proclimation, however, that the operating environment couldn't function without IE involved was (giving undue benefit-of-doubt) probably based on shared code and functionality that would have required them to either duplicate bits, or compile two copies; one with network savvy and one without.
Konquerer will allow me to browse my mounted resources and the Internet without any real extra effort on my part (really, just a few extra characters typed separate HTTP from NFS), but KDE doesn't kick the crap out of Firefox or Opera if it's installed.
I agree; at the bottom line it's all about net and profit.
The statement, though, was based on the cashflow, which is revenue. It is things such as this that turn the gross into net, and excess net becomes profit.
This $2.4M discussed comes out of the gross, thus affecting the net, ultimately reducing any profit.
Thinking in those terms, the same M$ press release referenced previously said that of the (max) $44.5B anticipated, an estimated (max) $18.8B would be operating expences, leaving $25.7B net.
I agree this (discussed) $876M is a much larger impact on $25.7B than on $44.5B, but the original comment was that their cashflow could take the beating, and it still can.
As a shareholder I'd rather have that amount to divide than to gripe about. As a consumer, I'd rather have them accept smaller profits allowing the software to be cheaper.
The article doesn't say they want the source made available, but they want to force some interoperability.
FTA:
Microsoft was also ordered "to disclose complete and accurate interface documentation which would allow non-Microsoft work group servers to achieve full interoperability with Windows PCs and servers".
They want access to the information about software services that make things tick in harmony, not the source that makes the software in the first place. They want to know all of those hidden APIs. The article, anwyay, doesn't say they want more than that.
You probably meant $75M/month (without the period). $2.4M/day is $876M/year (unless it's a leap year) which is roughly $73M/month (dividing the year by 12--some are shorter than others...).
Microsoft's reported quarterly revenues was $10.6B for the quarter ending in June 2005 (from one quick search--http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2 005/jul05/4Q-05ERPR.mspx). For the sake of discussion, extrapolate that out to $42.6B/year (quarter times four--M$ expected $43.7B to $44.5B in the release) or roughly $3.533B/month (year divided by twelve). Taking out the estimated $73M/month, that's a reduction to $3.46B revenue remaining.
I concede that I've made global estimations for a regional "fine." It may be the case that the regional sales don't make enough to cover it, but as a company...
Like, you mean, your math doesn't add up, or the 1.7 "CHz" typo?
In my math world four times one-point-seven does equal six-point-eight. One-point-seven, three-point-four, five-point-one, six-point-eight. Yup. Works.
I'd guess the CHz is a typo, although it's in their list of specs twice; once for the processor, once for the battery life. From the site:
SPECIFICATION:
Processor: 6.8GHZ CPU (AtomChip® Quantum® II processor or 4 x Intel® Pentium® M processors 1.7CHz) / System Compliance: Two Operating Systems with Voice Command (Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional and Linux®) / Memory: 1TB Quantum-Optical non-volatile RAM (NvIOpSRAM-SODIMM 200-pin) / Storage: 2TB non-volatile Quantum RAM (NvIOpRAM-ATA IDE) / Optical Drive: DVD Super Multi / LCD Display: 12.1" WXGA (1280 x 800, 16:10) TFT Glare Type LCD display with 1.3 Mega pixel CMOS camera / Video & Graphics: Two Integrated graphic controllers [Intel®855GME internal graphics, support Intel® DVMT (Dynamic Video Memory Technology) and AtomChip® DVM (Dynamic Video Memory)] / Communication: 10/100 Base-T LAN on board, MDC Fax/Modem V.90/V.92 on Board, 802.11a/802.11b/802.11g WLAN, Intel® PRO/Wireless 2100/2200BG/2915ABG network connection, WiFi, Bluetoth, GPRS -with Bluetoth antena, CMOS camera with USB interface, Mega pixel resolution CMOS image / Pointing Device: Synaptics touchpad with 4 way scrolling button / Application Launch Key: E-mail, Internet, Capture, WLAN / LED Status Indicator: Power, Suspend/Resume, Battery Charging Status, Quantum Storage Access, Num Lock mode, Caps Lock mode, Scroll Lock mode, WLAN Lock mode / Keyboard: 3.0mm travel, inverted-T, 88keys with 2 windows key (Internet & Microsoft For Connectivity) / Interface Ports Front Side: One 4-in-1 card reader slot (support SDIO/SD/MS Pro/MS), Audio line out, Stereo Microphone-in / Interface Ports Left Side: LAN port, Modem port, SVGA-out port, One Type II PCMCIA slot (support CardBus), 1394A port (mini jack) / Interface Ports Right Side: USB 2.0 ports x 3 / Interface Port Rear Side: DC-in, Kensington Lock / Audio: Built-in two stereo speakers and Built-in Microphone / AC Adapter (Input: 100-240V AC, 50-60Hz, 1.5A. Output: 20V DC, 2.5A, 50W) / Battery: 6 cell Li-lon battery pack. Battery Charge: 3 hrs charge time to 100% capacity while system off and 4 hrs charge time while system on. Battery Life: Approximately 8 hours for AtomChip® Quantum® II processor and 3 hours for 4 x Intel® Pentium® M processors 1.7CHz / BIOS: AMI, Support PnP, password, Bootable from USB and DVD / Power Management: ACPI 2.0 compliance / Smart Battery System Support / Security: Kensington Lock / Size: 320.0(W) x 242.0(D) x 22.0(H)mm/28.0mm (front/back) / Weight: 1.9kg(when fully equipped with AtomChip® Quantum® II processor) and 2,20kg(when fully equipped with 4 x Intel® Pentium® M processors) / Packing Accessories: Quick Guide, Support CD (Driver, Utility, Manual), AC Adapter, Power Cord, Battery Pack, BOSE Headphone Music System with noise Cancelling.
What I want to know is why all the horsepower and only a 12" 1280x800 screen, and a crappy Intel video? Throw a big 15" or 17" on there and a decent nVida or ATI graphics chipset. Heck, the thing probably costs $10K anyway.
What kind of sneaky stuff are they trying to put on my poor little machine? Looked like a helpful tool; thought I'd give it a try. Need admin rights to install, though. No way am I giving the beta of some software I thought looked cool the ability to install whatever it wants when my machine thinks I'm an admin.
Moral of the story: Make wi-fi free and charge $10 for a beverage.
That's why the drinks are so 'spensive...
I agree with you about adding a bit, but don't go overboard. I don't mind a nominal increase (read pennies) to all of the items to pay for the nice things (read appropriate lights, comfy chairs, clean tables, and even WiFi) whether I use them or not. If I'm grabbing take-out, I know that some of the price includes rent on the real estate necessary to have a table and chair available for me if I desired, even though I know I'm not using it ('cause I'm grabbing take-out, remember?).
Same for WiFi; don't bust my bank just because I shop there and you want to offer a service to some people. Knowing that even a nickel has been added to every item in your purchases just so the vendor can pay for their Internet connection, WiFi gear, and maintenance could be counter-productive.
That could just as quickly drive me from places that avertise "Free" WiFi.
Hey, Fox! I've got a couple of underused domain names you can have for half that much!
I'd list 'em here, but they'd no doubt be crippled by/. almost immediately. I have the domain names, but just some old PCs as servers for 'em...you'll have to use your own iron.
Don't know, but don't think the resolution is that precise.
Actually the GPS that the US military uses is second only to laser-guidance systems for accuracy. Its margin of error is about half the wavelength of light. The GPS you're used to in your car (or handheld or whatever) has a margin of error of around a meter.
Note that the impact on use of GPS is marginal; you'll still be at whatever longitude, latitude and altitude above mean sea level. If the ground indeed moved, as the article suggests, then the GPS mapping software telling you where things are will need to be updated. Even the GPS you get at your favorite electronics store will notice a shift of several feet.
Never forget that there will be differences between Solaris code and LINUX code (well, we hope). Even if every bit of software were successfully ported, there are enough people that know LINUX inside out that don't have time to learn the Solaris code to the same level.
The hardcore purists on either side will argue until they're blue in the face about how theirs is better (hey, isn't that why we're all here?). That fight alone will be enough for some people to keep it alive.
Let's not forget that even Sun has and supports LINUX. Their Java Desktop is a bunch of Java tools with a Sun setup on SUSE. I'm sure someday they'd drop that support, but for now, even they don't think that Solaris is enough of a LINUX killer to release the product on Solaris.
Additionally, even if Solaris were ported hard enough to get the same or more hardware compatibility of LINUX, they dropped all LINUX support in favor of Solaris, a guy from Sun came out to your place to install it for free, and made sure you were comfortable before he left, some people love the penguin too much...
Now, before you start the flaming, let me state I'm not an idiot. I'm not particularly partial to Solaris or LINUX. I use Solaris on my Sun Blade Sparc workstation and an x86 as a server. I have SUSE and RedHat running, and a lab machine on which I've also installed Fedora, Debian, Slacker and a few others. And I have an old machine I use as a thin client to both Solaris and LINUX using Knoppix and DSL. Yes, I have some Windows machines, too.
My wife does think it's too much, but what does she know? (Really, honey, I meant it as a rib, not a slam...)
But, did you look at the article, or just the headline? My comment was just based on the length of the diatribe about the action being taken. I'm sure following this, which was the question, will get just as arduous as reading this first bit.
Troll? Why mod as "troll" just because my opinion is "no"? Some people just can't take opposing views. I didn't express anything more than "I'm wiped out from reading what I could muster before I gave up, and therefore don't want to follow it..." Sheesh.
I see your intent. Yes, same interface, same output.
Therefore, Linux with Gnome, KDE, or one of the other Windows-like interfaces is the same as Windows. And the Mac interface is like CDE, so Mac and Solaris are the same. Yeah, I see it now...
Or maybe it's just that Word and all of it's work-alikes are the same? OpenOffice/StarOffice, Corel's products, even KDE Write, or maybe even Windows Write (almost the same, right)?
Yes, there is an alternative in XMMS (heck, I prefer it), and even in Windows MediaPlayer or RealPlayer. But, no, they don't do the same thing.
Be sad in the loss of quality software, even when there are alternatives. At least for a moment.
Then, after the moment passes, start looking for the leaked source on the torrents...
Yes. Remember, as K said in MIB, "a person is smart. People are stupid." Or something along those lines.
I agree that the voice of a crowd tends to the most common opinion, no matter how wacky the one side is or how reasonable the other side is. The "easy to understand" way, whether right or wrong, tends to become the norm.
Power plants in general have dangers. Nuclear power is arguably more or less safe, depending on where you stand in the crowd. The bad that can happen is terribly bad, but the safety put in place is much more robust to help avoid the bad.
Undeniably, nuclear power is not oil. If the people could understand the risks and benefits without falling into mob mentality, unless the mob gets with the program, then we can begin moving forward.
Put the power plants far enough away from the people to make them comfortable. Heck, surround them with military bases to make them safer. Put 'em in the deserts or far out in the fields, away from the cities, if that's what it takes.
Chuck the waste into space. Launch it toward the sun 'cause I'm sure it wouldn't mind, or into deep space if there's fear of something bad inside the solar system. Use the space elevator if there's fear of a rocket explosion...
An aside, since I realize the article is about nuclear power, is what about other renewable sources? How about putting wind generation in every cloverleaf on the freeway to power the nearby street lights? How about putting more than one dam on a river for hydro-electric, or just more dams in general? Why not replace those massive refineries with huge farms of wind and solar power generators?
Why not make hybrid cars the norm? Subsidise consumers for buying them, or companies to help make them inexpensive. And why not make them so they can use ethanol? Less than 1/3 the oil consumed per gallon, and lots more miles-per-gallon on top. Even if they have to be the size of SUVs to make Americans happy, the bulk of commuters don't use the power in the gasoline engines anyway; as long as they can be modified to still provide exciting car chases...
I think once we start moving in that direction, dependency will drop, and the rising market will, like elsewhere, reduce prices and increase productivity.
Even sadder, though, is that the stupidity will eventually follow. Unless, of course, one went alone...
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In your Java example you're making a collection of Integer objects, while in your C# code you're making a collection of int primatives. Not the same at all.
Of course, "inside" the Integer is an int, but it's got loads of other overhead, too. Inside each of your 60,000,000 loops, you're instantiating a new object in Java, while not taxing the C# similarly, additionally, 60 times you're tossing 1,000,000 objects for garbage collection.
I suppose one could use the autoboxing to put the little-I int in the collection, but I would speculate that the same thing would happen--behind your back Java would instantiate an Integer. A more fair test would be to create a small class and instantiate an equal number of them in C#, too.
I haven't got a C# environment on this system, nor a JDK 5 installation, so I can't verify that this makes a difference. I'm providing only a simple alteration that shows the intent of my statement, and offers a simple code change that similarly instantiates items.
Java: public class Test1 { private int i; public Test1(int i){ this.i = i; } public static void main (String [] args) { ArrayList<Test1> l = new ArrayList<Test1> (); System.out.println ("Started."); for (int i = 0; i < 60; i++) { for (int j = 0; j < 1000000; j++) l.add (new Test1(j)); l.clear(); } System.out.println ("Ended."); } }
C#: class Program { private int i; public Program(int i){ this.i = i; } static void Main (string [] args) { System.Collections.Generic.List<Program> l = new List<Program> (); Console.WriteLine ("Started."); for (int i = 0; i < 60; i++) { for (int j = 0; j < 1000000; j++) l.Add (new Program(j)); l.Clear (); } Console.WriteLine ("Ended."); } }
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That and you should get the up-to-date drivers for your video card, and verify that the refresh rates in your desktop settings match your expectations.
Running the same game on the same PC dual-booted to Windows will get 80fps while the same game on LINUX will get 125fps on ye ol' AGP nVidia 6600. Native versions of the game, mind you, not any kind of emulator.
I do this all the time between LINUX, Solaris, Mac, Windows. I'm at one machine and need to do something screwy and GUI on another; VNC to the rescue. Takes about two minutes to set up, and in full-screen mode, easy to do with no photo alterations. And the mouse and keyboards work.
Another word: taser.
He's wrong about one thing, too.
After two minutes searching, I found the link to the file archives, in which there is gp2x Embedded Linux Source. I'm downloading now, so it may be the case I eat my words, but it looks like the peeps behind the kernel have released the source.
Heck. I'll go. I'm sure you saps won't miss me.
If you look at it from an abstract and high enough view, there's little difference to looking at a directory on your hard drive and one on an HTTP or FTP server. *NIX mount points are the kind of the same way; it doesn't matter if its a resource on your system or another.
The proclimation, however, that the operating environment couldn't function without IE involved was (giving undue benefit-of-doubt) probably based on shared code and functionality that would have required them to either duplicate bits, or compile two copies; one with network savvy and one without.
Konquerer will allow me to browse my mounted resources and the Internet without any real extra effort on my part (really, just a few extra characters typed separate HTTP from NFS), but KDE doesn't kick the crap out of Firefox or Opera if it's installed.
The statement, though, was based on the cashflow, which is revenue. It is things such as this that turn the gross into net, and excess net becomes profit.
This $2.4M discussed comes out of the gross, thus affecting the net, ultimately reducing any profit.
Thinking in those terms, the same M$ press release referenced previously said that of the (max) $44.5B anticipated, an estimated (max) $18.8B would be operating expences, leaving $25.7B net.
I agree this (discussed) $876M is a much larger impact on $25.7B than on $44.5B, but the original comment was that their cashflow could take the beating, and it still can.
As a shareholder I'd rather have that amount to divide than to gripe about. As a consumer, I'd rather have them accept smaller profits allowing the software to be cheaper.
FTA:
They want access to the information about software services that make things tick in harmony, not the source that makes the software in the first place. They want to know all of those hidden APIs. The article, anwyay, doesn't say they want more than that.
You probably meant $75M/month (without the period). $2.4M/day is $876M/year (unless it's a leap year) which is roughly $73M/month (dividing the year by 12--some are shorter than others...). Microsoft's reported quarterly revenues was $10.6B for the quarter ending in June 2005 (from one quick search--http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2 005/jul05/4Q-05ERPR.mspx). For the sake of discussion, extrapolate that out to $42.6B/year (quarter times four--M$ expected $43.7B to $44.5B in the release) or roughly $3.533B/month (year divided by twelve). Taking out the estimated $73M/month, that's a reduction to $3.46B revenue remaining.
I concede that I've made global estimations for a regional "fine." It may be the case that the regional sales don't make enough to cover it, but as a company...
In my math world four times one-point-seven does equal six-point-eight. One-point-seven, three-point-four, five-point-one, six-point-eight. Yup. Works.
I'd guess the CHz is a typo, although it's in their list of specs twice; once for the processor, once for the battery life. From the site:
What I want to know is why all the horsepower and only a 12" 1280x800 screen, and a crappy Intel video? Throw a big 15" or 17" on there and a decent nVida or ATI graphics chipset. Heck, the thing probably costs $10K anyway.
At least it runs LINUX...
What kind of sneaky stuff are they trying to put on my poor little machine? Looked like a helpful tool; thought I'd give it a try. Need admin rights to install, though. No way am I giving the beta of some software I thought looked cool the ability to install whatever it wants when my machine thinks I'm an admin.
That's why the drinks are so 'spensive...
I agree with you about adding a bit, but don't go overboard. I don't mind a nominal increase (read pennies) to all of the items to pay for the nice things (read appropriate lights, comfy chairs, clean tables, and even WiFi) whether I use them or not. If I'm grabbing take-out, I know that some of the price includes rent on the real estate necessary to have a table and chair available for me if I desired, even though I know I'm not using it ('cause I'm grabbing take-out, remember?).
Same for WiFi; don't bust my bank just because I shop there and you want to offer a service to some people. Knowing that even a nickel has been added to every item in your purchases just so the vendor can pay for their Internet connection, WiFi gear, and maintenance could be counter-productive.
That could just as quickly drive me from places that avertise "Free" WiFi.
I'd list 'em here, but they'd no doubt be crippled by /. almost immediately. I have the domain names, but just some old PCs as servers for 'em...you'll have to use your own iron.
Actually the GPS that the US military uses is second only to laser-guidance systems for accuracy. Its margin of error is about half the wavelength of light. The GPS you're used to in your car (or handheld or whatever) has a margin of error of around a meter.
Note that the impact on use of GPS is marginal; you'll still be at whatever longitude, latitude and altitude above mean sea level. If the ground indeed moved, as the article suggests, then the GPS mapping software telling you where things are will need to be updated. Even the GPS you get at your favorite electronics store will notice a shift of several feet.
Exactly.
Never forget that there will be differences between Solaris code and LINUX code (well, we hope). Even if every bit of software were successfully ported, there are enough people that know LINUX inside out that don't have time to learn the Solaris code to the same level.
The hardcore purists on either side will argue until they're blue in the face about how theirs is better (hey, isn't that why we're all here?). That fight alone will be enough for some people to keep it alive.
Let's not forget that even Sun has and supports LINUX. Their Java Desktop is a bunch of Java tools with a Sun setup on SUSE. I'm sure someday they'd drop that support, but for now, even they don't think that Solaris is enough of a LINUX killer to release the product on Solaris.
Additionally, even if Solaris were ported hard enough to get the same or more hardware compatibility of LINUX, they dropped all LINUX support in favor of Solaris, a guy from Sun came out to your place to install it for free, and made sure you were comfortable before he left, some people love the penguin too much...
Now, before you start the flaming, let me state I'm not an idiot. I'm not particularly partial to Solaris or LINUX. I use Solaris on my Sun Blade Sparc workstation and an x86 as a server. I have SUSE and RedHat running, and a lab machine on which I've also installed Fedora, Debian, Slacker and a few others. And I have an old machine I use as a thin client to both Solaris and LINUX using Knoppix and DSL. Yes, I have some Windows machines, too.
My wife does think it's too much, but what does she know? (Really, honey, I meant it as a rib, not a slam...)
But, did you look at the article, or just the headline? My comment was just based on the length of the diatribe about the action being taken. I'm sure following this, which was the question, will get just as arduous as reading this first bit. Troll? Why mod as "troll" just because my opinion is "no"? Some people just can't take opposing views. I didn't express anything more than "I'm wiped out from reading what I could muster before I gave up, and therefore don't want to follow it..." Sheesh.
Uh, can I vote no?
FreeBSD has its ports, which can be automatically kept up to date, too.
Just picking...glinux and gimp don't really tease the same way...
Therefore, Linux with Gnome, KDE, or one of the other Windows-like interfaces is the same as Windows. And the Mac interface is like CDE, so Mac and Solaris are the same. Yeah, I see it now...
Or maybe it's just that Word and all of it's work-alikes are the same? OpenOffice/StarOffice, Corel's products, even KDE Write, or maybe even Windows Write (almost the same, right)?
Yes, there is an alternative in XMMS (heck, I prefer it), and even in Windows MediaPlayer or RealPlayer. But, no, they don't do the same thing.
Be sad in the loss of quality software, even when there are alternatives. At least for a moment.
Then, after the moment passes, start looking for the leaked source on the torrents...
Or "Xerox."
I agree that the voice of a crowd tends to the most common opinion, no matter how wacky the one side is or how reasonable the other side is. The "easy to understand" way, whether right or wrong, tends to become the norm.
Power plants in general have dangers. Nuclear power is arguably more or less safe, depending on where you stand in the crowd. The bad that can happen is terribly bad, but the safety put in place is much more robust to help avoid the bad.
Undeniably, nuclear power is not oil. If the people could understand the risks and benefits without falling into mob mentality, unless the mob gets with the program, then we can begin moving forward.
Put the power plants far enough away from the people to make them comfortable. Heck, surround them with military bases to make them safer. Put 'em in the deserts or far out in the fields, away from the cities, if that's what it takes.
Chuck the waste into space. Launch it toward the sun 'cause I'm sure it wouldn't mind, or into deep space if there's fear of something bad inside the solar system. Use the space elevator if there's fear of a rocket explosion...
An aside, since I realize the article is about nuclear power, is what about other renewable sources? How about putting wind generation in every cloverleaf on the freeway to power the nearby street lights? How about putting more than one dam on a river for hydro-electric, or just more dams in general? Why not replace those massive refineries with huge farms of wind and solar power generators?
Why not make hybrid cars the norm? Subsidise consumers for buying them, or companies to help make them inexpensive. And why not make them so they can use ethanol? Less than 1/3 the oil consumed per gallon, and lots more miles-per-gallon on top. Even if they have to be the size of SUVs to make Americans happy, the bulk of commuters don't use the power in the gasoline engines anyway; as long as they can be modified to still provide exciting car chases...
I think once we start moving in that direction, dependency will drop, and the rising market will, like elsewhere, reduce prices and increase productivity.
Even sadder, though, is that the stupidity will eventually follow. Unless, of course, one went alone...
In your Java example you're making a collection of Integer objects, while in your C# code you're making a collection of int primatives. Not the same at all.
Of course, "inside" the Integer is an int, but it's got loads of other overhead, too. Inside each of your 60,000,000 loops, you're instantiating a new object in Java, while not taxing the C# similarly, additionally, 60 times you're tossing 1,000,000 objects for garbage collection.
I suppose one could use the autoboxing to put the little-I int in the collection, but I would speculate that the same thing would happen--behind your back Java would instantiate an Integer. A more fair test would be to create a small class and instantiate an equal number of them in C#, too.
I haven't got a C# environment on this system, nor a JDK 5 installation, so I can't verify that this makes a difference. I'm providing only a simple alteration that shows the intent of my statement, and offers a simple code change that similarly instantiates items.
Java:
public class Test1 {
private int i;
public Test1(int i){
this.i = i;
}
public static void main (String [] args) {
ArrayList<Test1> l = new ArrayList<Test1> ();
System.out.println ("Started.");
for (int i = 0; i < 60; i++) {
for (int j = 0; j < 1000000; j++)
l.add (new Test1(j));
l.clear();
}
System.out.println ("Ended.");
}
}
C#:
class Program {
private int i;
public Program(int i){
this.i = i;
}
static void Main (string [] args) {
System.Collections.Generic.List<Program> l = new List<Program> ();
Console.WriteLine ("Started.");
for (int i = 0; i < 60; i++) {
for (int j = 0; j < 1000000; j++)
l.Add (new Program(j));
l.Clear ();
}
Console.WriteLine ("Ended.");
}
}