i dont understand how you can 'add' support for real browsers. what i do is have a nice standards compliant website, with the w3c box model, etc, and have an ie_hacks.css stylesheet, included by conditional comments.
because of this, IE 'support' gets added last in my projects.
in my book[*], web designers are what you describe, web developers are the ones who show professionalism in their field. i like to think of myself as a web developer because i follow standards, i follow best practice, and i dont expect to be coddled or be allowed to 'half arse it'.
if i had something trivial to patent, lived in the us, and money to burn, i would sue the USPTO for infringing on my patents, that would get the bastards to reform (presuming it actually cost them enough money).
i wonder if the big companies that want patent reform would do this.
i wouldn't say 'functions' such as remote RPC, remote registry, were particularly usefull to 99% of the population. windows is more akin to a great big hole left from somebody ramming a bulldozer against your trailer
as per the GPL, they have to make their changes available (which does not include changelogs, or small patches), so they _were_ giving huge unmergable patches to the khtml team
recently they opened their cvs tree and afaik got a couple of developers to help the khtml team merge the code (although i may be wrong with that)
Except for one thing: he couldn't play video
clips, and when he got his laptop, he said, "I'll use Windows on this so I can play video." That's all. Otherwise he would use Linux.
video playback works fine for me in linux, i find windows harder to setup (download varioud codecs manually, what is this? 1998?)
and I still can't get a GUI working on MPlayer.
Im pretty sure gmplayer is working out the box on debian testing
What I had to go through to get this far: Download and compile MPlayer.
sudo apt-get install mplayer
Ok, that's no problem and it plays DVDs. Download and install the Windows codecs pack. Now MPlayer (still with no GUI) can play WMV. That's great. Xine (KDE's preferred video player) can't detect these Windows codecs, even though I put them in/usr/lib/win32, which is where they're supposed to be.
iirc - sudo apt-get install w32codecs will setup the codecs for mplayer and xine
So no integrated desktop playback; if I want to play a clip, I download it, save it, open up a console window, and point MPlayer at it. I tried to get MPlayer to compile with --gui-enabled so at least I could have a front-end for it. No luck; it can't find gtk2+ development libraries. I tried to install them and couldn't find them anywhere that MPlayer could find them. I also tried to install a dvddecss lib where Xine could find it so Xine could play encrypted (standard) movie DVDs. Again, nothing I could do worked.
try kaffeine video player
Mind you, this is all with Suse 9.3, the latest and greatest. All of this stuff is supposed to be worked out by now.
it is worked out, in debian (and gentoo, and probably others)
I can get it to just barely work, with no desktop integration and no GUI, and I'm an experienced and knowledgable user. What are other people supposed to do, just use their imagination?
be recommended a distro that has these features by default such as debian testing
Oh and the situation is even worse with Flash. In my previous Suse installations, Flash worked fine in Konqueror. Now with Suse 9.3, I get a crash when Konqueror tries to render a page with Flash, so I have to use Moz or Firefox to view it, and guess what, those have problems working with KDE's sound system so I might not get sound with my Flash.
fair enough, although it should have been tested by suse. arts is commonly considered crap, and fortunately will be replaced in kde4 (probably by gstreamer) as its not being developed anymore. i dont use arts personally.
I realize that there are legal problems with codecs and DVDs and whatever. Before Linux is ever going to get consumer-level acceptance, these problems need to be solved, or worked around.
yes, it is unfortunate but it is possible to point your sources.list to other 'dodgy legal ground' repositories hosted in non-facist countries
A solution would be to get a commercially-developed Linux media player that a) integrates with the desktop and b) works and c) package that with the distro. A work-around would be to make up a media player installer that you just click on, it downloads whatever it needs from non-US sites, and it does all the stuff, and it WORKS.
debian with third part repositories? All that is lacking is multimedia playback. see above
im not sure, but if they dont modify and gpl'd code (such as the kernel) they dont have to release changes - there's plenty of commercial software available on linux which does not have to release the code (as glibc is lgpl, not gpl), for example the browser i am using now - opera.
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what about people who have cd copies of downloads?
calm down. webdev's can call themselves what they like, i was just saying what makes me call somebody a webdeveloper or a webdesigner.
i dont understand how you can 'add' support for real browsers. what i do is have a nice standards compliant website, with the w3c box model, etc, and have an ie_hacks.css stylesheet, included by conditional comments.
because of this, IE 'support' gets added last in my projects.
in my book[*], web designers are what you describe, web developers are the ones who show professionalism in their field. i like to think of myself as a web developer because i follow standards, i follow best practice, and i dont expect to be coddled or be allowed to 'half arse it'.
i hate web *designers*.
[*] my metaphorical book
write them a comment, in complete nonsense, call it 'bastardised english', and have it require a retard to read it.
it would make a point, if they know there's a point to be made.
1: the us copyright office
2: slashcode
troll? jesus, he's right.
one chip may be made slower, but would this mean that more chips could be made at once: my own made up numbers:
10 chips at once, 1 chip a second = 1 second for 10 chips
1000 chips at once, 1 chip every 100 seconds = 1 second for 10 chips
my maths my be off there though, and obvioulsy this is completely unfounded speculation.
ssh: it doesn't have to be shell. im sure there's a windows file browser that can use ssh, and i know there's one for linux - konqueror (fish)
in konqueror go to:
fish://user@host
and it will take you to user@hosts home directory.
if i had something trivial to patent, lived in the us, and money to burn, i would sue the USPTO for infringing on my patents, that would get the bastards to reform (presuming it actually cost them enough money).
i wonder if the big companies that want patent reform would do this.
what the hell are management or msce's doing playing with linux anyway. employ techs who know what they are doing.
i wouldn't say 'functions' such as remote RPC, remote registry, were particularly usefull to 99% of the population. windows is more akin to a great big hole left from somebody ramming a bulldozer against your trailer
no, in linux you have to say "open a terminal and type 'su -c ifconfig' - then theyll say "its asking for a password, what is it?"
people are retarded, there's no two ways about it.
as per the GPL, they have to make their changes available (which does not include changelogs, or small patches), so they _were_ giving huge unmergable patches to the khtml team
recently they opened their cvs tree and afaik got a couple of developers to help the khtml team merge the code (although i may be wrong with that)
apple recently opened up their cvs repository of webcore (khtml), which the khtml developers used to merge in many of apples changes.
(i know they were only doing a bit more than the gpl requires, and i do know they used khtml as a basis of webcore)
video playback works fine for me in linux, i find windows harder to setup (download varioud codecs manually, what is this? 1998?)
Im pretty sure gmplayer is working out the box on debian testing
sudo apt-get install mplayer
iirc - sudo apt-get install w32codecs will setup the codecs for mplayer and xine try kaffeine video player
it is worked out, in debian (and gentoo, and probably others)
I can get it to just barely work, with no desktop integration and no GUI, and I'm an experienced and knowledgable user. What are other people supposed to do, just use their imagination?
fair enough, although it should have been tested by suse. arts is commonly considered crap, and fortunately will be replaced in kde4 (probably by gstreamer) as its not being developed anymore. i dont use arts personally.
yes, it is unfortunate but it is possible to point your sources.list to other 'dodgy legal ground' repositories hosted in non-facist countries debian with third part repositories?
All that is lacking is multimedia playback. see above
http://www.freepgs.com/mattyrobinson/misc/pics/and es-venezolanos.svgz
but he's much worse than a serial rapist/murderer, obviously.....
weve just slashdotted http://virtualearth.msn.com/ and msn.com is performing poorly.
im not sure, but if they dont modify and gpl'd code (such as the kernel) they dont have to release changes - there's plenty of commercial software available on linux which does not have to release the code (as glibc is lgpl, not gpl), for example the browser i am using now - opera.
no, the matrix obviously runs windows - its tries to be cleaver, has many bugs (de ja vous) and its not secure (neo and co)
i have ie 5/5.5/6 all installed on debian etch: gander here:
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
it requires wine and cabextract
first backup is huge, but subsequent ones aren't if you use rsync
hopefully the us government will ban WMP
or you could put a few dummy pins in, to prevent r-tards from not putting the chips in the wrong way