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Bacteria Used to Create Nanowires

FnH writes "Derek Lovley and his colleagues of the University of Massachusetts discovered that the Geobacter bacteria is capable of producing nanowires. The bacteria is normally used to clean up toxic waste. Geobacter does not use oxygen, but metal as its source for power. This probably explains the 3nm to 5nm nanowires it excretes while working. What metal the nanowires are made of is not yet known, but the genetic code responsible for their creation is. This opens up the possibility of modifying the bacteria to create nanowires on chips."

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  1. Dupe by SlashEdsDoYourJobs · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dupe.

  2. The bacteria "link up" with each other by ReformedExCon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    According to the article, the bacteria seem to produce these tiny wires which then carry electrical signals across large meshes of bacteria-produced wires. It would be interesting to see what sort of emergent behavior, if any, would arise from very large meshes of these wires and bacteria.

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    1. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by k98sven · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, they don't carry signals. (What signals would there be to carry?)

      The reduction of metal (iron) in a geobacter metallireducens bacteria functions as little more than an electron sink for getting rid of electrons at the end of the respiratory chain.

      Fe3+ (metal ion from the environment) + 3 e- --> Fe (metal)

      There are other bacteria which turn nitrate into nitrogen and sulphur into H2S (smelly bastards!), among others.

      We humans (and our relatives) do this using oxygen:
      O2 (oxygen from the environment) + 4 e- + 4H+ --> 2 H2O (water)

      There's nothing particularily surprizing about the fact that it produces metal. Nor is it terribly surprizing that the metal comes out as a long strand. Respiration is a rather continuous process, after all!

      So no signalling. (And what could they possibly signal anyway?) But that doesn't mean there couldn't be benefits for the bacteria to have its metal threads connected. It might help ground any excess negative charge on the resulting metal, aiding the respiration process.

    2. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by ReformedExCon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thank you for the expanded information.

      The original basis for my post was this quote:

      quote
      Patrinos said the bacteria may organize to form minipower grids in the soil by linking up via the nanowires. /quote

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    3. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by Zen+Punk · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually, you just made that up. Way to read what isn't there. This qoute might have been the foundation for your extrapolation:

      The ability of the bacteria to link their nanowires has been observed in Lovley's lab. The hairlike wires emanating from the bacteria had been seen previously, but their conducting function was discovered via atomic-force microscope techniques.



      Or perhaps this:

      Patrinos said the bacteria may organize to form minipower grids in the soil by linking up via the nanowires.


      I have no idea what is meant by a "minipower grid" nor what the bacteria in question may be "linking up" to.

      It isn't clear whether he means that a single bacterium can link its own wires together or that several bacteria can link their own respective wires together. Nowhere in the text, however, does it imply that the bacteria send signals of any kind through these wires.
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    4. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by ReformedExCon · · Score: 1

      I admit I did take some license with the quotes you mentioned. Namely, I tried to understand what it meant.

      If the first one says that bacteria (plural) "link their nanowires", and the second quote says that they "may...form minipower grid(s)", then yes, I would extrapolate that they are talking about interconnected meshes of these wires which carry "power".

      Which, if you take a look at my original post (I'll quote it for you)

      quote
      the bacteria seem to produce these tiny wires which then carry electrical signals across large meshes of bacteria-produced wires /quote

      There is one jump in logic that I made and that is that I seem to claim that this is an actual behavior of the bacteria. However, to say that I made it up is a gross mischaracterization and misreading of my post.

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    5. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by Zen+Punk · · Score: 1

      However, to say that I made it up is a gross mischaracterization and misreading of my post.

      Yes, I'd have to agree. I didn't mean it as a slight. This article is rather vague and offers little insight as to what has actually been discovered and what its significance is. Coming to an inaccurate conclusion as a result of trying to parse it is understandable.

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    6. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by 64nDh1 · · Score: 1

      If you throw in a dysfunctional marriage, then I think I can get Spielberg interested as technical supervisor for saving the world.

    7. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by odourpreventer · · Score: 1
      O2 (oxygen from the environment) + 4 e- + 4H+ --> 2 H2O (water)

      Don't you mean that we use C and O2 to form CO2?

      I find it quite astonishing that the bacteria can extract metal ions from the environment and produce pure metal (if that is the case, haven't read TFA yet). AFAIK it's usually a quite energy demanding procedure.

      What if we can mutate them to extract lead or other heavy metals? Could be useful.

    8. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by jafac · · Score: 1

      On the vein of the "imagine a beowulf cluster of these" - I reckon that were we to master this technology, we would someday have bacteria that can excrete carbon nanotubes, or perhaps even Hydrogen gas (for our Hydrogen fuel-cell-powered automobiles).

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    9. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by k98sven · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean that we use C and O2 to form CO2?

      We do that too, of course. But it's not analogous, that reaction produces NADH+ and FADH2 (citric acid cycle) and enters the electron transport chain, where the final step (in Cytochrome C oxidiase) is to reduce oxygen to water.

      AFAIK it's usually a quite energy demanding procedure.

      Yes, it is. (The analogy to huamns doesn't hold here, since reducing oxygen produces energy). But photosynthesis is (IMHO) even more impressive. And energy-demanding.

      What if we can mutate them to extract lead or other heavy metals? Could be useful.

      The article says they're actually using it for that already.

    10. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by k98sven · · Score: 2, Interesting

      we would someday have bacteria that can excrete carbon nanotube

      Well, I think finding any decent catalyst for nanotubes would be a huge breakthrough. The way they're made today is basically by blasting carbon (creating a whole bunch of different crap) and sorting out the bits you want. Not very efficient or controlled.

      or perhaps even Hydrogen gas

      There are already bacteria who produce hydrogen gas. Current research is already trying to do stuff with this. For instance, the EU is funding a project to try and couple this to Photosystem II and have an enzyme which could produce hydrogen gas directly from water and sunlight cheaply and efficiently.

    11. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You had to come out and talk about the resperatory system. You might as well have just said "Think about your breathing. If you don't, you'll suffocate."

    12. Re:The bacteria "link up" with each other by DrMrLordX · · Score: 1

      I miss that troll.

  3. oxigen? by EvilMonkeySlayer · · Score: 1, Informative

    Derek Lovley and his colleagues of the University of Massachusetts discovered that the Geobacter bacteria is capable of producing nanowires. The bacteria is normally used to clean up toxic waste. Geobacter does not use oxigen, but metal as it's source for power. This probably explains the 3nm to 5nm nanowires it excretes while working. What metal the nanowires are made of is not yet known, but the genetic code responsible for their creation is. This opens up the possibility of modifying the bacteria to create nanowires on chips.

    Ah, carrying on the great /. tradition. Never use spellcheck, to the extreme!

    1. Re:oxigen? by gkuz · · Score: 1, Informative
      as it's source for power

      Never use spell check, and never learn elementary-school English grammar, either.

    2. Re:oxigen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      That is a correct use of a possessive apostrophe, it is not a contraction of "it is".

    3. Re:oxigen? by Oscar_Wilde · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      That is a correct use of a possessive apostrophe, it is not a contraction of "it is".
       
      Can you provide a reference for that?
       
      From the Oxford American Dictionaries:
      it's
      contraction of
      • it is : it's my fault.
      • it has : it's been a hot day.
      and
      its
      possessive adjective belonging to or associated with a thing previously mentioned or easily identified : turn the camera on its side | he chose the area for its atmosphere.
      • belonging to or associated with a child or animal of unspecified sex : a baby in its mother's womb.
      USAGE Its is the possessive form of: it.
      I can't find a reference for it's not being a contraction.
    4. Re:oxigen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      In the case that 'It' is a proper noun, the correct possessive form would be "It's".

      Cousin It's hair is very long.

    5. Re:oxigen? by Oscar_Wilde · · Score: 1, Insightful

      True, but that is a special case (and not the case earlier in this thread).

    6. Re:oxigen? by reklusband · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I'm a fire breathing vampire with 3 eyes. Way to talk out of your ass!

    7. Re:oxigen? by O_Sleep · · Score: 1

      Especially since Safari has a spellchecker for forms built in.

      Firefox has a form spellchecker via a plugin.

    8. Re:oxigen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ah, carrying on the great /. tradition. Never use spellcheck, to the extreme!

      Why bother, when you have an army of pedantic assholes who are just dying do all your proofreading for you?

    9. Re:oxigen? by Haydn+Fenton · · Score: 1

      Oh come on, really, who cares.
      If you insist on being a grammar Nazi at least get it right before complaining about it.

      It's is short for "it is" or "it has" (e.g. "It's a very hot Summer day.").
      Its is a possesive form of it, and is used when referring to something already mentioned (e.g. "The hot Summer day has lost its heat.").

      Now RFTA and quit complaining.

    10. Re:oxigen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it all depends on what your definition of is is.

    11. Re:oxigen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Its" is the correct possessive form. What you should be bitching about is that he said that the thing uses oxygen as its power source, which is nonsense.

    12. Re:oxigen? by FCP · · Score: 1

      Correct, of course. "Its," the so-called "Saxon genitive," does not take an apostrophe. When I was young, schoolchildren were still taught this.
      </curmudgeon>

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  4. Crystal Ball Hackery by CleverNickedName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This opens up the possibility of modifying the bacteria to create nanowires on chips.

    In the same was as it opens up the possibility of modifying the bacteria to code Linux kernel patches.
    This certainly is cool biotech, but slapping this wild prediction on to the end of the article doesn't make it more so.

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    1. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I use carbon as my source for power, and I excrete 3 cm to 5 cm wide wires of carbon up to 15 cm long or more. Maybe they can make some carbon circuits or chips out of those!

    2. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 1
      In the same was as it opens up the possibility of modifying the bacteria to code Linux kernel patches. This certainly is cool biotech, but slapping this wild prediction on to the end of the article doesn't make it more so.

      Indeed. It seems to me that you have a better chance to let these bacteria poop the complete works of Shakespeare than to let them poop computer chips.

      Creating the poop is not the problem. Organising the poop is. A lion tamer is better equipped to tackle that problem than a poop scientist.

    3. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by Ixne · · Score: 1


      Now, if we could just get them to crap out fibre optic cable, we'd be set.

    4. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by andphi · · Score: 1
      This certainly is cool biotech, but slapping this wild prediction on to the end of the article doesn't make it more so.
      Yes, and no. Yes, it seems terribly far-fetched to start growing bacteria on chips just so they can excrete random nanowires, but OTOH, a great deal of what we might refer to as classic science fiction - Verne, Wells, etc. was also far-fetched at the time it was written. A fair quantity of what Wells wrote hasn't even come true yet, but it catalyzed exploration, or at least the more considered thought experiments of later writers like Asimov, Clark, Heinlein, et al., whose predictions have begun to come true.
    5. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by GoldAnt · · Score: 1

      Rofl, how mallable are these wires? Perhaps (they've gotta be really weak right?) if they're strong enough they can just yank the wire out of the end of the lil pooper and put it where they want with something else.

    6. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by Otter · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I dunno -- certainly by the standards of wild speculation customarily appended to science stories here it's not that far-fetched. You modify the bacteria to follow some stimulus that can be applied with higher resolution than can currently be achieved with traces (light, maybe?) and let them lay down wiring.

      It's no more improbable than most of the "Possible Cure For Cancer!" stuff we see here, probably on the order of modifying "Yuo have teh source code so fix it yuorself!!!" Lunix fanboys to code kernel patches.

    7. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by RealProgrammer · · Score: 1
      You modify the bacteria to follow some stimulus that can be applied with higher resolution than can currently be achieved with traces (light, maybe?) and let them lay down wiring.

      An etching process to guide the bacteria would have to shine a smaller beam than the trace, but not too small. That would be interesting research. Anyway, the wavelength would have to be (maybe) 30nm for current work, which is pushing into the x-ray band. I'm not sure the little critters would respond very well if the beam were too strong. I guess they'd need training :-)

      The other side of that is, if you're shining x-rays onto the chip material, you may as well use that to do the etching.

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    8. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by budgenator · · Score: 1

      I suspect that if you painted the chips with resist, exposed the resist and washed the unexposed resist away, then coated them with something the little guys liked to eat, they'd poop out the nanowires where you wanted them. I'm not sure if this would be paractical for anything, but everybody is gogga over anything with nano as a prefix anymore, so it would get you some research grants.

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    9. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but if you can do that, why not paint the wiring directly?

    10. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Because you only get a research grant if you can work the keywords, terrorist, global-warming or nano into the grant proposal.

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    11. Re:Crystal Ball Hackery by Kaki+Nix+Sain · · Score: 1
      With a few of the right assumptions, this hypothetical bacteria process might allow for thinner waffers than typical etching processes. That is, it could end up being less mechanically stressful than the etching-polishing cycles currently done.

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  5. Possible cyberjack material? by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 1, Interesting


    Interesting read...the first thing that came to my mind when I read this is that these organic wires may be just the thing for the interface between electronics and organic tisue. One of the major problems in cybernetics is that the chemistry of the implants tends to be poisonous to the surrounding tissue, while the chemistry of the surrounding tisue tends to be corrosive to the implant. Over time, the interface degrades and must eventually be replaced. Utilizing the genetic code from these microbes to express nanowires within some of our cells may eliminate this problem and pave the way for permanent interfaces sooner than we thought.

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    1. Re:Possible cyberjack material? by SlashEdsDoYourJobs · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, if the editors can dupe, why not you?

    2. Re:Possible cyberjack material? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sicken me.

    3. Re:Possible cyberjack material? by elmarkitse · · Score: 1

      Isn't the material produced the nano equivilent of excrement? Isn't it quite likely that the chemistry of the wire in this case then would have similarly negative properties when associated with organic materials?

  6. For once by malkavian · · Score: 3, Funny

    people would be quite correct in saying that the wiring inside their device was crap!

  7. Oh, crap by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Funny

    This probably explains the 3nm to 5nm nanowires it excretes while working.
    So... the next generation of electronics is going to be made of shit?

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    1. Re:Oh, crap by imag0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      So... the next generation of electronics is going to be made of shit?

      Stands to reason it will be. Heaven knows the previous couple of generations have been ;)

    2. Re:Oh, crap by Vo0k · · Score: 1

      All the booze and most of cheese, yoghurt and some more are made of bacteria and bacteria shit.
      To make things more twisted, we shit dead bacteria. (THEY eat food we swallowed, and WE digest THEM to get energy, then excrete "dead shells" - they are the primary compound of the shit...)

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    3. Re:Oh, crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Finally, a computer suitable for running MS Windows.

    4. Re:Oh, crap by jav1231 · · Score: 1

      Soon when you say, "This computer's a piece of shit!" you'll be correct!

    5. Re:Oh, crap by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

      Personally, I prefer insect vomit.

      Hmmmmm sweet, sweet multiple-regurgitated and fermented insect vomit...

    6. Re:Oh, crap by Sentry21 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps this is meant to accomplish a tighter integration of the hardware with the software.

    7. Re:Oh, crap by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      > All the booze and most of cheese, yoghurt and some more are made of bacteria and bacteria shit.

      Let's not forget alcohol: yeast pee.

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    8. Re:Oh, crap by smithmc · · Score: 1

        So... the next generation of electronics is going to be made of shit?

      Isn't that true of every generation?

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    9. Re:Oh, crap by Admiral+Ackbar+8 · · Score: 1

      last time I checked, booze = alcohol

    10. Re:Oh, crap by Snowdog668 · · Score: 1

      Then there's my favorite beverage made from said insect vomit. I'm thinking about trying to make a batch myself this fall.

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    11. Re:Oh, crap by Holi · · Score: 1

      Last I checked yeast was not a bacteria.

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    12. Re:Oh, crap by Werkhaus · · Score: 1

      Yeast has also been used to produce gold filaments.

      http://www.wi.mit.edu/news/archives/2003/sl_0331.h tml
      http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/100/8/452 7

      Mmm... Chips AND beer...

    13. Re:Oh, crap by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

      yea i totally fudged the mead link... 'cause you know, honey doesn't ferment...

  8. Re:Oxigen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's probably one of those British spellings. Like 'spelt', 'whilst', 'kerb', and a bunch of other meaningless words.

  9. Clean up toxic... waste. by baylanger · · Score: 1

    Does this mean we're closer to produce a green CPU? If you think so, can we really call it green if its full of bacterias?

    1. Re:Clean up toxic... waste. by koi88 · · Score: 1


      If you think so, can we really call it green if its full of bacterias?

      And when you turn on the power, you fry millions of innocent, helpful little creatures?

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    2. Re:Clean up toxic... waste. by Zen+Punk · · Score: 1

      The word 'bacteria' is plural. The singular form of 'bacteria' is 'bacterium.'

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    3. Re:Clean up toxic... waste. by kniLnamiJ-neB · · Score: 1

      To be fair, "bacterium" is actually a Latin word. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=bacterium

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    4. Re:Clean up toxic... waste. by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Does this mean we're closer to produce a green CPU?

      Or a Soylent Green CPU?

    5. Re:Clean up toxic... waste. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > To be fair, "bacterium" is actually a Latin word.

      Well then, "bacteria" is also a Latin word - and it's still plural.

      Please, show a few modica of respect. Our crania aren't made to adapt to these kind of triviums.

  10. Just what we need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The microscopic world's answer to Superfish - eating metal and crapping it out in long strings.

  11. I always said Intel chips by madman101 · · Score: 2, Funny

    were crap...

  12. Metallic Excreta by amodm · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the scene from "Little Nicky" where the dog pisses off an arrow (??)

    ooooooooh.........that was a painful thought !!

  13. Geobacter infected metals by La+Gris · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone else think of roten metals ?

    Geobacter does not use oxigen, but metal as it's source for power

    Now, our cars will not only rust in winter because of salted snow, but they may rot eaten by Geobacter. ;)

    More seriously:
    Could this bacteria be genetically engineered to eat common metals like steel, or more uncommon ones targeted at destroying military or sabotage foundrys?

    Is another bio weapon on the way?

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    1. Re:Geobacter infected metals by Dubpal · · Score: 1
      "Could this bacteria be genetically engineered to eat common metals like steel, or more uncommon ones targeted at destroying military or sabotage foundrys?"

      I don't mean to strap on the pedantipants right off the bat, but that's a silly notion. If you'd read the article, you'd know that it's using the metals not used as an energy source, but as an electron acceptor for respiration. So no, it couldn't "eat" steel, but it might change it into something different. (most metals have many different transition states)

      This stigma that bacteria are some sort of hybrid of Pac-Man and the cookie monster must end!

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    2. Re:Geobacter infected metals by SimilarityEngine · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, geobacter is more interesting for its ability to decontaminate soil.

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    3. Re:Geobacter infected metals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't "eat" metals. It does the exact opposite: Turns rust into iron.

      Is another bio weapon on the way?

      No.

    4. Re:Geobacter infected metals by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 1

      "So no, it couldn't "eat" steel, but it might change it into something different. "

      Well that's reassuring, so it will only transform my car into a pile of goo ?

    5. Re:Geobacter infected metals by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      It's not a silly notion.

      They're talking about them being rust monsters. And that could seriously weaken any structure.

      A high level fly over that sprays bacteria on a steel structure. Two months later, shoot holes in it using a bb gun.

      It's not that unreasonable. Now, we'll have to start putting antibacterial compounds on our metal buildings/ships/guns/etc.

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    6. Re:Geobacter infected metals by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Informative
      They're talking about them being rust monsters. And that could seriously weaken any structure. A high level fly over that sprays bacteria on a steel structure. Two months later, shoot holes in it using a bb gun

      from followng a few links: geobacter is anaerobic; it can tolerate a low level of oxygen, but basically lives in underground water with very low oxygen concentration. So spraying it not the air will kill it. Also, if I understand the chemistry (quite likely I haven't), it consumes rust, not iron per se.

    7. Re:Geobacter infected metals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is another bio weapon on the way?

      YES. Start fearing now. The color-coded fear-level will be upgraded shortly, but you can start trembling immediately.

      1. You don't hurt the ones who protect you.
      2. You want protection from what you fear.
      3. By creating fear the ruler creates a desire for protection.
      4. When the ruler has created a desire for protection the ruler controls the masses (due to #1) who might otherwise see through the ruler and put the ruler out of power.

    8. Re:Geobacter infected metals by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Well, when they can adapt aerobic bacteria, then I guess all offensive/defensive metal is FUBAR.

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    9. Re:Geobacter infected metals by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      > A high level fly over that sprays bacteria on a steel structure. Two months later, shoot holes in it using a bb gun.

      Gee, thats so much more effective than using a BOMB.

      P.S. Ships are eaten away every day by salt water.

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    10. Re:Geobacter infected metals by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      I just re-read "The Ringworld Engineers", and in it there's the issue where the Ringworld was created with lots of room-temperature superconductors, but then a bacteria landed which consumed superconductors, and that stopped the Ringworld from accepting power (beamed from the "shadow squares" which simulate day/night cycles).

      Then it veered off course and was going to smash into its sun, and for the rest I won't ruin it for you.

      What's amazing is it was written in 1980, and doesn't feel old at all.

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    11. Re:Geobacter infected metals by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      cost of BOMB>>>cost of bb gun

      And the bacteria option provides so many more options: kick through wall, drive through wall, laser through wall, etc.

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  14. Bacteria shit = wires by pH03n1X · · Score: 1

    I bet this "shit" idea was funded by n+HP-invent ( n is for nanotechnology )

  15. Bacteria making wires?! by Dubpal · · Score: 5, Funny
    Don't these scientists read the news!? Wires are sooo twentieth century.
    Wake me up when they finally find bacteria that use Bluetooth.

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    1. Re:Bacteria making wires?! by dpilot · · Score: 1

      These are security-conscious bacteria, they'd never use bluetooth, and recognize that they don't have the necessary computing cycles to use decent wireless security.

      I suppose you think they were just using wires without thinking it through?

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  16. Grammar and logic and more, oh my by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 1

    "oxygen" "its source" not "it's source" Logical leap: Chip wires, to be economically feasible are needed to be placed at a rate of many meters per second. Nanowires probably grow many powers of ten times slower than this. And one might surmise that iron interfaces very poorly to silicon.

    1. Re:Grammar and logic and more, oh my by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 1

      one chip may be made slower, but would this mean that more chips could be made at once: my own made up numbers:

      10 chips at once, 1 chip a second = 1 second for 10 chips

      1000 chips at once, 1 chip every 100 seconds = 1 second for 10 chips

      my maths my be off there though, and obvioulsy this is completely unfounded speculation.

    2. Re:Grammar and logic and more, oh my by SimilarityEngine · · Score: 1

      Perhaps a single bacterium would "lay cable" (snigger, sorry) very slowly, but we have potentially massive parallelism here, provided you can find a way to actually control what these organisms do. No use if they just produce a load of nano-wire-wool, obviously!

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    3. Re:Grammar and logic and more, oh my by similar+to+mh2 · · Score: 1

      "its source" is correct. At grammar naziing, you fail.

  17. Argh the bugs! by RenHoek · · Score: 1, Funny

    After all the time I spend in trying to get the damn bugs OUT of my computer, now the manufacturer it factoring them right in at the start of building my computer :(

  18. Fungus by jurt1235 · · Score: 1

    Eww, my chip has some greenish fungus on it.

    Grep microscope (really strong one)

    O no, no worry, it is some nanowiring expension set.

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  19. I for one... by Faw · · Score: 0

    ..welcome our nano-wire excreting bacteria overlords.

  20. New Meaning by jglen490 · · Score: 1
    To all you ex-G.I.s and former college students:

    This brings new meaning to the term S.O.S.

    1. Re:New Meaning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stuff our Shit?

      That's all I hear those army guys talking about...

    2. Re:New Meaning by jglen490 · · Score: 1
      Close.

      It's that "delicacy", usually served at breakfast, although appropriate at anytime, consisting of a finely chipped beef or other (perhaps mysterious) meat product in a savory cream sauce. All served over a lightly toasted, or burned beyond recognition, slice of bread.

      Also known as "shit on a shingle".

  21. Playing God by hypnoticstoat · · Score: 0

    Ho Hum, I just know this is all going to go terribly wrong and the bugs will end up eating everything made of metal and we'll be cast back into the dark ages. Spielburgh or Lucas have probably already bought the rights to the motion picture.

  22. HELP HELP: Need experts advice!!!! by baylanger · · Score: 1
    Intel in the terms of use for my new nano=bacteria-CPU wrote: DO NOT OVERCLOCK THIS CPU. IT COULD RESULT IN OVERCOOKED BACTERIA.

    I decided to give it a try and, my CPU started to sweat!!! What should I do? Give water to my bacterias?

  23. Nice by airjrdn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Great, now they're building the bugs into the chips on purpose? What next?

    1. Re:Nice by Griim · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's not a bug it's a featu -- oh nevermind!

    2. Re:Nice by millennial · · Score: 1

      It's both!

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  24. damn... by kwoff · · Score: 1

    How badass do you have to be to breath metal?

    1. Re:damn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      almost as badass as you have to be to shot web.

  25. 10 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Man, this CPU runs like CRAP!"

  26. Cool beans by Alsee · · Score: 1

    I always wanted a pet goose that lays golden eggs, but I'm willing to settle for pet bacteria that shit gold wires.

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  27. How did they named this bacteria?! by mynickwastaken · · Score: 0

    Gremlin?!

  28. Re:Bacteria in higher education... by Zunni · · Score: 1

    My understanding (and I'm certainly no expert) is that it follows a set path laid out by the materials it's meant to 'eat' so as long as there is a pattern that is clearly defined and seperate from the other parts of the pattern (which at nano sizes could be a struggle on it's own)it simply connects the dots.

  29. This is already Patented... by vettemph · · Score: 2, Funny

    >
    >nanowires it excretes while working.

    and Microsoft will vigorously defend its patented ability to turn your PC into excrement.

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  30. Born from "Star Trek"... by cnelzie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...the post you were responding to is.

        "It would be just like that one Star Trek Episode where Wesley was doing this experiment with Nanobots that networked together and formed a rudimentary, then more evolved Artificial Intelligence. They like took over Lt. Cmdr. Data and then took over the ship and all they wanted was a chance to have a place of their own, that they could turn into grey ooze." ...or...

        "It could be just like that one Star Trek Episode where there was this terraforming project going on at this lifeless rock and the Enterprise was sent to investigate some terrible disasters that were happening there. It turns out that there were this mircoscopic silicone based lifeforms living in the sands on this planet and they were like, getting killed by the terraforming process. Anyway, the leader of the terraforming colony knew what was going on, he just didn't want to admit that he was killing little silicone sand creatures. The silicone sand creatures networked together and started being all bad-ass as they increased in capability and inteligent as they joined together, kinda like the Constructicons from The Transformers television series, that was cool, you know? So, anyway, these bacteria might be doing the same thing!"

        Anyway, I have to blame Star Trek. While the series has been known to inspire tons of people to do great things, it's pseudo-science has done some harm as people assume that what happens in a Science Fantasy show can happen in real life.

        No hatin' to the original poster, btw. I am just saying.

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    1. Re:Born from "Star Trek"... by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      Silicon, not Silicone!

      (Unless you're talking about the Horta costume... but that might be a gooey pile of melted foam latex costumes)

    2. Re:Born from "Star Trek"... by ReformedExCon · · Score: 1

      Heh. I was actually more interested in it because of the possible resemblance of tiny cells connected via electrical pathways and the human nervous system which is made up of tiny cells connected via electrical and chemical pathways. Plants also seem to exhibit emergent behavior, such as following the path of the sun or blooming at certain times of the day.

      Little patterns beget bigger patterns beget complex patterns.

      I'll have to be on the lookout for those two episodes. I haven't seen the show in a long time. Probably on UPN?

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    3. Re:Born from "Star Trek"... by cnelzie · · Score: 1

      Ooops... That's what I done get for typing fast.

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    4. Re:Born from "Star Trek"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say you're not hating the original poster so why are you calling him silly. Besides he's reformed.

    5. Re:Born from "Star Trek"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it would be more like that one Star Trek episode where this scientist chick builds some robots that can replicate new circuit pathways for themselves in real time so they can figure out how to fix things, but then they get too smart and commit suicide because their owner sucks so much. Then Data starts playing with them and gets insanely protective and won't let anyone beam them to the exploding space station, but they go there anyway because they're cool and didn't really like living all that much after all. Then the episode ended and nobody ever heard of them again, because in the Star Trek universe nobody ever thinks of actually using any of the technology they invent. How do you think Voyager got so powerful? It's probably just because it was too isolated to pass off all its new tech to some useless institute full of senile admirals who would forget it all the next day, so instead it just kept piling up on the ship and they had no choice but to use it later on.

    6. Re:Born from "Star Trek"... by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      It conjures strange visuals of silicone life forms and silicon breast implants.

    7. Re:Born from "Star Trek"... by someone1234 · · Score: 1

      So you applaude Star Trek for the positive message it carries, but you blame them for warning about possible negative effects?

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  31. Carbon Nanotubes by Dachannien · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now all we need is a bacterium that can produce useful things made of carbon, such as nanotubes, consuming methane and releasing hydrogen in the process. Then we can all switch to fuel-cell based cars without all this perpetual kvetching over how to get the hydrogen.

  32. Wow! Just like STNG! by cmburns69 · · Score: 1

    I think we've all seen this epsiode of STNG. Remember when the nano-bots keep eating parts of the enterprise, and then become sentient? The only way to appease the macro-nano-bots was to send them off the ship somewhere/somehow.

    Unfortunately for us, we have no way to offload them from our homeworld. Because of this, if we unleash this technology it can only be to our own undoing!

    That is the only conceivable future of this technology!


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  33. I was fired from this project... by vudufixit · · Score: 3, Funny

    For bringing penicillin to work! I had strep! WHERE IS THE JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD???

  34. Could this be used for Space Elevators? by iamcadaver · · Score: 1
    Subject says it all... This story reminds me of the US military silk producing spider-goats

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    1. Re:Could this be used for Space Elevators? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      No. It's the wrong material, besides, the length of 3 nm falls a little bit short of the mark to reach orbit.

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    2. Re:Could this be used for Space Elevators? by iamcadaver · · Score: 1
      I was under the impression the 3nm was the width.

      Derek Lovley and his colleagues at the University of Massachusetts (Amherst, Mass.) reported observing and measuring the conductivity of long wires, 3 to 5 nanometers in diameter, emanating from the Geobacter bacteria.

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  35. RSS /. inconsistancy by Dracolytch · · Score: 1

    Here's an interesting note: The RSS feed has oxygen spelled oxigen.

    Any ideas why?

    Do the articles have to be manually entered to the RSS feed? The the editors actually (GASP!) edit something??

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  36. Bluetooth ? by Dr.+Hugh+Everett+III · · Score: 1


    ... try here.

  37. Excrement by bobbagum · · Score: 1
    "What metal the nanowires are made of is not yet known"
    Well it's bacteria shit, I don't care what kind of metal it is, it's shit.

    he said excrement, he he

    1. Re:Excrement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess then its not so different from you drinking beer (or any alcohol for that matter) as its made from yeast shit.

      Yummy!:P

    2. Re:Excrement by aquabat · · Score: 1
      "What metal the nanowires are made of is not yet known"


      Well, wouldn't it be the same metal that they were eating? I don't imagine they turn lead into gold.

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  38. The 986 will be a piece of shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 986 will be a piece of shit. Literraly.

    1. Re:The 986 will be a piece of shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't funny the first ten times, why would it be funny this time?

    2. Re:The 986 will be a piece of shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes it was. It was funny the first time.

    3. Re:The 986 will be a piece of shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comma should have been a period.

    4. Re:The 986 will be a piece of shit by uhlume · · Score: 1

      As should you. (If you're going to be pedantic, at least be right.)

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  39. Yeah.... well that's... by cnelzie · · Score: 1

    ...still not proof of Inteligent Design. ...and I believe you may find those episodes on "SpikeTV".

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  40. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet despite the five hundred other posts, the editors still fuck up, time and time again. Maybe it needs to be a couple of thousand before they finally pull their heads out of their asses and start using a spellcheck. Alternatively, go to a bookstore and buy a dictionary if slashcode is too crappy to extend.

  41. So does this mean by gadgetman · · Score: 1

    That bathroom breaks mean exactly the opposite for these bacteria?

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  42. Now that's... by mc900ftjesus · · Score: 0

    intelligently designed evolution.

  43. Symbiotic relationship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bacteria and plants produced the oxygen we breath, so we're actually breathing their shit.

    Their shit gives us life; and our shit gives them life.

    You might have suspected that this is a crappy world. Now you see it in perspective. :)

  44. Re:Oxigen by Bayleaf · · Score: 1

    No, we would probably spell it oxygin - and serve it with tonic so you would carry bottles of the stuff on a spaceship rather than tanks. Trouble is, you had better not get pulled over after landing, you would probably fail the breath test.

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  45. Link to the Paper? by BioCS.Nerd · · Score: 1

    Does anyone have a link to the paper in question?

  46. Had to say it... by Sierpinski · · Score: 1

    But if I reading it correctly, it sounds like these nanowires are basically bacterial poop?

    How fast does the bateria work? Could you drop a couple barrels of it on enemy hardware (tanks, planes, buildings, refineries, etc) and have it eat the metal away, or would sun/rain/snow/heat wash them away?

  47. Open source Bacteria by Device666 · · Score: 1

    Yeah.. I envision the following future.. Bacteria that live on my chip and are capable of fixing bugs on the chip and have their DNA as open source. This way we could hack them to create real open source chip architecures....

  48. Finally! by bugnuts · · Score: 1

    We can now make the world's smallest violin... even smaller!

  49. Links for the Curious (Answering My Own Question) by BioCS.Nerd · · Score: 1
    Okay, I had a bit of time at work so here's some links for the curious: Enjoy!
  50. Great. by ankhank · · Score: 1

    Now the archaeobacteria living below us for the first mile or two down in the rocks will be upgrading, able to grow fast interconnections instead of relying on slow chemical signaling.

    I for one welcome our new archaeobacterial underlords.

    Maybe they'll be able to make oil faster out of subducted organic material that comes their way, the next time life on the surface of the planet almost dies off.

  51. Logistically speaking... by kent,+knower+of+all · · Score: 2, Funny

    How do you get all of the bacteria to crap in a straight line?

    I mean, all it takes is one of the little buggers to go off in a random direction and it'll short the whole damned circuit.

    Unless, of course, we can engineer another strain of bacteria that eat the metal wire and excrete insulated wire. :)

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  52. Stupid Bacteria... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...causing ice ages, creating nanowires... ...doh...

  53. What gene by lazy+genes · · Score: 0

    I really would like to find out more about this gene.CTAG and all that.Electrons move in a spiral motion simular to the shape of the alpha helix.
          I think there gene discovery is bull .

  54. Re:I guess... by jridley · · Score: 1

    Well, according to my stats and review page, most people think I do. Sorry if I diverge occasionally. That's a beautiful bit of prose that you've constructed, by the way, Mister A.C.

  55. We eat and drink shit by baka_vic · · Score: 1

    Better lay off booze then - all that alcohol happens to be yeast pee. And bread? Yeast fart.