The US is bogged down with budget cuts, political infighting, and wars in the Middle East! The first so-called "space race" took place during the Vietnam conflict, a war that involved an actual draft and over 50,000 US dead, to say nothing of the 1,000,000+ in the North. Militarily, Iraq is a low intensity conflict.
Political infighting? Present US politics are not significantly more vicious then it has been. It may look all important and crucial to you, but it's always looked that way to people in their own time. Look up Nixon some time. Go find out who McCarthy was.
For the common boob history begins shortly after birth; everything that happens is more significant than anything that's gone before.
SUSE is being pretty aggressive in terms of key packages like gcc, glibc and the kernel. 10.3 provides GCC 4.2.1, glibc 2.6.1 and the 2.6.22.5 release of the kernel.
My one serious complaint with YaST is the time wasted waiting for the package manager to download metadata every time you enter it. I've taken to just leaving it running on a separate desktop. Please, YaST folks, apply some caching; it should take at most only a few seconds to bring up package manager if it has been run in the last few hours. If I should need to ensure absolutely current metadata provide a simple means to force a full update, otherwise get the thing open as quickly as possible. Yes, it's probably possible to work-around, tweak or otherwise get this behavior now... I want it out of the box.
I'm not sure when I got my account, but I do know slashdot had user accounts for a while before I bothered signing up for one. They were available for at least a few months before I signed up. Same here. I might have to go dig up that enrollment email. Lost track of the account for years before it occurred to me that I had created it. I'll admit I was rather pleased to discover it was a sub-1000 id. I don't recall feeling any pressing need to get in early; I know I'd been lurking a while before I got around to it.
Anyhow, Slashdot still rocks; it's one of three sites I check every morning. The other two having been fungible over the years.
What's the biggest threat to the success of OpenOffice.org? That's easy; Microsoft suing Sun for violating patents for MS Office 'inventions'. You know it's coming.
As far as Sun's dominant position over OOo goes; as long as they keep performing I don't see the problem. New 2.x releases have been appearing every few months and each is a notable improvement. They're doing a good job and while they keep doing it they'll remain in control. Their latest release provides a platform for extensions; go develop your miracle feature and let Sun keep cranking on the core platform, as they have been.
I recall when early releases of ext3 appeared someone suggested NetApp might take issue with it due to IP. Daniel Phillips got rather heated about the matter. Apparently NetApp didn't pursue anyone over it.
There is no doubt it takes a lot of RAM to run Eclipse.
How much of this is due to JRE implementation? I know Sun's JRE likes to load a lot of class code; at one point with 1.5.x I had to manually bump the memory reserved for class code above the default of 64MB while running Eclipse. What fraction of that is wasted on infrequently used code? I also recall not being able to allocate >1.6GB of RAM on 32 bit W2K3 because, according to Sun, their JRE's heap requires contiguous RAM, and 32 bit W2K3 can't provide it in larger pieces, although it would host 2 processes each ~1.5 GB just fine. If the memory must be contiguous, that implies certain inefficiencies such as never releasing unused RAM below the most distant allocation.
Anyhow, I suspect common JREs are using RAM inefficiently. Flushing unused code, releasing unused heap and sharing common code among processes are all commonplace, well understood techniques. Be nice if Sun and other JRE vendors figured out how to leverage them.
Secondly, I don't think income has anything to do with it. The leftist instinct is to model everything as a function of income disparity.
Story: As a leftist, I know there are many people who share my ideological views
Of course you know this. You and your ilk can't help but plaster your opinions all over whatever forum you're involved in, political or otherwise. That it might not be appropriate is the one thought that never occurs to you. Your wit is of such value that the world must suffer it, regardless.
Recent events:...we've had a lot of story submissions that we would like to post, but they don't fit very well on the Slashdot main page.
Find out when the above appeared to learn how recent the KOSing of/. actually is. This place didn't emerge because a lot of leftists wanted a forum to validate one another. Despite this our story's author is confused that the 'community' persists in it's ignorant ways.
Story non-question: Is the community's political bent directly tied to our higher than average economic success?
I see! The reason I don't share your beliefs is that I'm too stupid to avoid being corrupted by the wealth produced as a result of being smarter than the average bear.
Brilliant!
I'm a victim of my own success, needing 'guidance' to correct my foolish ways. Only the smart folks on the Left have the competence to 'help' me. If only you knew whom you validated with that 'question'.
Why this need for an explanation?/. took a survey and the results showed that the place isn't (yet) uniformly dominated by the left. Oh dear. Given the deep need for mutual validation among leftists I imagine this has been somewhat disturbing.
How the hell asking those kind of things helps prevent terrorism? What makes you think this is motivated by terrorism? Because NASA says so?
NASA has contractors shooting people in Houston, astronauts planning attacks on love rivals and other astronauts drunk on shuttle launches. For some strange reason o.O they think they're letting too many screwballs get close to their operations. If something major happens as a result do you think Congress will not point to these personnel problems as evidence of a lack of diligence? You damn well know they will. For that matter so will the lot of you; knees will jerk so hard around/. people will lose teeth.
The fact that this hasn't been NASA policy all along says a lot. Any HR professional knows that a simple credit check is a cheap, fast way to screen out a lot of people with 'issues.' Nothing says 'fuck-up' like chronic credit problems. Go deeper and it becomes real hard to maintain a front. This is just NASA employing diligence equal to the institution.
Operate yourself such that you can be trusted not to show up wasted to handle huge LOX pumps. Behave in a manner that won't lead to embarrassing scandals for people that place trust in you. Otherwise go away and make a living somewhere that involves less esteem, and try not to whine about it. I know it's hard; whining is encouraged behavior today, but please try.
Given a description of an incident... The description of the incident alarmed me. Leaking HEU running under a door spotted by someone walking down the hall...
Call me naive but I have a vision of this sort of operation that involves a bit more vigilance. Leaks can be automatically detected, particularly leaks of highly radioactive matter. In my HEU refining facility 14 different models of klaxons, 3 of them steam powered, simultaneously deafen the entire facility the instant a pressure drop or burst of radiation is detected. The two backup NRC guys are physically pulled out of bed and sent to join the already on-site NRC guy within 30 minutes.
Your instinct may be that this is impractical; abnormal things would cause false alarms so frequently they would be ignored. I expect something more; making HEU should be on par with maneuvering in orbit. I don't care if it costs a lot. Little rivers of HEU should not be cascading down elevator shafts. Ever. If the Navy and its contractors can't afford it then stop fucking around with it.
however, it may be possible to place upper and lower bounds on some of the classified parameters I agree. I'm not particularly upset by this; the NRC was well aware of the incident. Keeping this quiet was government policy, not some contractor hiding mistakes. The policy, misguided or not, was also brief and is now subject to congressional scrutiny. So some congress critter didn't get to fly out and hold a press conference the same day. Yawn.
Just an FYI; highly enriched fuel is used for naval reactors (aircraft carriers, submarines, etc.) Typical power reactors aren't designed to burn this in large quantities.
They kept a lid on it for 3 years. I note that this was NRC policy, as opposed to a company cover up. The NRC is typically rather open about these sort of events.
I'd rather they fix the vulnerabilities How would you detect the idiocy level of the recipient? If you spam a thousand accounts with "OMG check this http://somedomain/hot-teen-s3x.scr" you just know some fraction of the audience will dutifully follow the link and then dismiss every prompt that appears trying to prevent installation.
Worse, after they get their own machine hacked, they'll blame MSN. They'll contact whatever 'customer service' facility is provided and scream bloody murder. If they manage to get fired as a result they may even sue. Don't doubt that there are employers capable of getting litigious with MSN over it, also.
I have a method of Minnesota infrastructure maintenance that can assure sound bridges. My technique involves billing the Twins owner for the $392 million of government revenue (collected via a sale tax hike) being used to fund the new $522 million baseball stadium. My technique also involves continuing to dash the hopes of Minnesota football fans for a new government funded $0.5 billion football stadium. Instead, let the team owners rely on sports geek revenue to fund their stadiums, and misappropriate the tax revenue into infrastructure.
On the other hand, perhaps it isn't necessary to piss off all the Minnesota sports geeks (read: voters) and instead utilize the $2 billion dollar state surplus to deal with the states bridges. But alas, there are voters to buy with that money.
This is about the priorities of the citizens of a staggeringly wealthy nation being focused on everything but the infrastructure.
The original meme was wrong in the first place. That may be the case. Just FYI; as submitted my story had no reference to the previous/. story. The assertion the Betamax failed due to lack of porn is (possibly well informed) opinion at best, and myth at worst. It's plausible I suppose. I may even believe it. However, I made no such allusions in the story I submitted. The fact that Sony has managed to weasel past Japanese law (by outsourcing Blu-ray porn replication to Taiwan) and set aside the (hypothesized) concerns of their own corporate governance to insure a channel for porn on Blu-ray is interesting, in and of itself.
They are not going to ever really support Linux well. If you are AMD/ATI and the 800 lb gorilla of PeeCees sends you a memo, you read it and take steps or you answer to The Board because one wrong word from those people and your Ass is Grass. ATI is under new management and now Dell has a Linux agenda. Have a little faith. Things can change. Companies like HP (particularly on the server side,) Oracle and now Dell have been and will continue to end Linux indifference among hardware manufacturers.
It's working. It's not fast and good karma isn't the motivation, but it IS working.
for example, the Fox news story from yesterday Please don't overlook this gem. If that isn't the most astonishing TruthDot story of them all, it's damn close.
Hence, they would also... Opps.
Second, it is not custom-fit to Google. It is, but it also happens to align with consumers. Companies like Apple and AT&T dream of leveraging exclusive products/services like iPhone into 'revenue sharing' arrangements with content providers like Google. Google is attempting to make that dream impossible. It goes directly to Google's business model.
Nobody should be able to buy a custom-fit government regulation tailored to their business plan. That has to be one of the most blatantly false statements that I've heard in a while. What, precisely, makes the statement false?
Just because Google's ambition happens to align with desires of the common consumer doesn't make the statement false. Google is attempting to use money to influence a regulatory body in its favor. Google would love to establish a precedent for their model. The benefits to Google are obvious.
Don't discard reason by denying the truth of the assertion. Instead, rationalize your wishes like so:
Dear CTIA,
Someone you don't own can now afford to compete with your bribes to obtain regulatory favor.
I can't understand why/. soiled its pages with this.
As I see it, there are two possibilities:
The first is that the story actually had credibility with Zonk and he was more than happy to put it up. Put Halliburton in a story and the truthers soil themselves. The second; Zonk saw through it like any other technically savy grownup and knew it would be ridiculed. In that case it is a sort of April Fools joke.
Anyhow, there are plenty of reasonable explanations already posted for the 'evidence' provided. Here is one I didn't notice; why would 'they' use easily identified domains to spy on people? 'They' run the world so clearly 'they' could arrange for something less obvious, no?
Finally, is there any recourse for a business that has had it's products publicly slandered? I'd hate to see Microsoft get a piece of/. in court, but it wouldn't surprise me if they tried.
you really do need to have the giant on the block represented <drm-protected> <activex platform="x86"> <.NET version="3.0.12.1"> <subscriber-only msn-micropay-retailer-id="4f022c73a0-3fcc2-56ca1"> <advertisement required="true" duration="30">
The "giant" in this case would "innovate" the Web to death. I think the w3c folks believe that waiting for Microsoft sanction is exactly the wrong thing to do. The right thing is compelling standards that attract use despite the dreams of companies like Microsoft.
If we can create carbon-neutral fuel from waste economically... I've heard the carbon-neutral claim about *anol fuels before. The assertion is that because the fuel is realized from a biological source the net increase in environmental carbon is zero. Either I'm missing something or this is muddled thinking.
Plants mine soil for carbon. Petroleum is widely used as fertilizer due to this. If I dump oil on the ground (or not; perhaps I happen to have rich soil somewhere,) dig it back up with plants, make a liquid from it and burn it in an engine, is this considered carbon neutral? Oil fertilizer or not, carbon that was sequestered in the ground is now in the atmosphere.
Seems fishy to me.
Anyhow, it would be nice to stop bombing atavists for gas; carbon neutral or not there are plenty of reasons to pursue this.
people can quite easily distinguish "shitty" from "awesome" Consumers couldn't give a rat's ass about this topic. This weekend millions stood outside mall stores and cheered each other as they consumed AT&T exclusive iPhones. The FTC is foot dragging because on one hand you have Apple and AT&T fostering a real (F)TRADE(C) phenomena, and on the other you have a few activists. Guess who's lobbyists buy FTC bureaucrats the most meals.
ready to smack the wannabe monopolists upside the head if they attempt their backwater cousin fucking ideas of raping the connections we pay for Aim those smacks with care. What fraction of this audience just pwned Net Neutrality with their disposable income?
and low bandwidth and one run by, say, Google. Google is a board and a balance sheet, regulated by that same FTC. Google is not your $2.3528E11 buddy.
It "just works" with *our* hardware and *our* software. Qualifying "just works" is an oxymoron.
(the rest of this applies to the grandparent)
If one imagines that what Dell advertises two clicks into their site is a bellweather of the personal computer market [1], observe that the lowest end Inspiron is a 64-bit system. Both Apple and Adobe [2] appear to be oblivious to the fact that for most customers it is now next to impossible to obtain a non-64-bit platform. Granted, running 32-bit operating systems on recent hardware is certainly the current practice, but they should be capable of envisioning the immediate future where this transitional aberration no longer applies.
They fail to make that leap because your non-mainstream ways constitute zero significance for them. It's a giant "fuck you, geek". Got a problem with our AT&T only policy because you don't wish to contribute to that corporate beast? Fork over the cash and deal with it, and don't sully our message boards with your geekery either.
Congratulations; you and the other frenzied elois have just reinforced all of this with your disposable income. The next time you witness some business step on its customers just nod your head and smile; it's you being served precisely as you deserve.
[1] It is, but failure to allow the possibility that it might not be results in hysterical flame-age. [2] Picking only two high profile examples.
did Boeing redesign their aeroplane to accommodate the flex-wings? It's unlikely. The 787 is a new design so I doubt Boeing would factor in the materials they've decided to use... After all, it's a big American corporation; they're trying to kill their passengers.
But are we going to be paying lesser (sic) for flights? Ever wonder why air travel became a filthy, degrading, miserable experience? Skinflints. They'll put an airline out of business for charging ten bucks more than the other guy and then whine about poor service and uncomfortable aircraft.
so that I do not have to remove my shoes everytime I want to smoke at a stopover? Huh?
FYI: you don't HAVE to smoke at stopovers. I smoke and travel. Going a half day or more without a smoke is not suffering. Sit quietly in the terminal, manage your luggage and keep your shoes on.
Both. Some plants drive turbines directly. This is the case with plants that supplement base power generation during peaks. They start very rapidly to match demand and range in size from small emergency units to turbines the size of a small house. Others are indirect. In some cases gas is used in the same plant with coal. There are a wide variety of configurations for turning fossil fuels into electricity and gas (LPG, NG, etc.) is very flexible.
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Political infighting? Present US politics are not significantly more vicious then it has been. It may look all important and crucial to you, but it's always looked that way to people in their own time. Look up Nixon some time. Go find out who McCarthy was.
For the common boob history begins shortly after birth; everything that happens is more significant than anything that's gone before.
SUSE is being pretty aggressive in terms of key packages like gcc, glibc and the kernel. 10.3 provides GCC 4.2.1, glibc 2.6.1 and the 2.6.22.5 release of the kernel.
My one serious complaint with YaST is the time wasted waiting for the package manager to download metadata every time you enter it. I've taken to just leaving it running on a separate desktop. Please, YaST folks, apply some caching; it should take at most only a few seconds to bring up package manager if it has been run in the last few hours. If I should need to ensure absolutely current metadata provide a simple means to force a full update, otherwise get the thing open as quickly as possible. Yes, it's probably possible to work-around, tweak or otherwise get this behavior now... I want it out of the box.
Anyhow, Slashdot still rocks; it's one of three sites I check every morning. The other two having been fungible over the years.
Many happy returns.
As far as Sun's dominant position over OOo goes; as long as they keep performing I don't see the problem. New 2.x releases have been appearing every few months and each is a notable improvement. They're doing a good job and while they keep doing it they'll remain in control. Their latest release provides a platform for extensions; go develop your miracle feature and let Sun keep cranking on the core platform, as they have been.
I recall when early releases of ext3 appeared someone suggested NetApp might take issue with it due to IP. Daniel Phillips got rather heated about the matter. Apparently NetApp didn't pursue anyone over it.
At least Sun has the means to defend itself.
There is no doubt it takes a lot of RAM to run Eclipse.
How much of this is due to JRE implementation? I know Sun's JRE likes to load a lot of class code; at one point with 1.5.x I had to manually bump the memory reserved for class code above the default of 64MB while running Eclipse. What fraction of that is wasted on infrequently used code? I also recall not being able to allocate >1.6GB of RAM on 32 bit W2K3 because, according to Sun, their JRE's heap requires contiguous RAM, and 32 bit W2K3 can't provide it in larger pieces, although it would host 2 processes each ~1.5 GB just fine. If the memory must be contiguous, that implies certain inefficiencies such as never releasing unused RAM below the most distant allocation.
Anyhow, I suspect common JREs are using RAM inefficiently. Flushing unused code, releasing unused heap and sharing common code among processes are all commonplace, well understood techniques. Be nice if Sun and other JRE vendors figured out how to leverage them.
Story: As a leftist, I know there are many people who share my ideological views
Of course you know this. You and your ilk can't help but plaster your opinions all over whatever forum you're involved in, political or otherwise. That it might not be appropriate is the one thought that never occurs to you. Your wit is of such value that the world must suffer it, regardless.
Recent events:
Find out when the above appeared to learn how recent the KOSing of
Story non-question: Is the community's political bent directly tied to our higher than average economic success?
I see! The reason I don't share your beliefs is that I'm too stupid to avoid being corrupted by the wealth produced as a result of being smarter than the average bear.
Brilliant!
I'm a victim of my own success, needing 'guidance' to correct my foolish ways. Only the smart folks on the Left have the competence to 'help' me. If only you knew whom you validated with that 'question'.
Why this need for an explanation?
NASA has contractors shooting people in Houston, astronauts planning attacks on love rivals and other astronauts drunk on shuttle launches. For some strange reason o.O they think they're letting too many screwballs get close to their operations. If something major happens as a result do you think Congress will not point to these personnel problems as evidence of a lack of diligence? You damn well know they will. For that matter so will the lot of you; knees will jerk so hard around
The fact that this hasn't been NASA policy all along says a lot. Any HR professional knows that a simple credit check is a cheap, fast way to screen out a lot of people with 'issues.' Nothing says 'fuck-up' like chronic credit problems. Go deeper and it becomes real hard to maintain a front. This is just NASA employing diligence equal to the institution.
Operate yourself such that you can be trusted not to show up wasted to handle huge LOX pumps. Behave in a manner that won't lead to embarrassing scandals for people that place trust in you. Otherwise go away and make a living somewhere that involves less esteem, and try not to whine about it. I know it's hard; whining is encouraged behavior today, but please try.
Call me naive but I have a vision of this sort of operation that involves a bit more vigilance. Leaks can be automatically detected, particularly leaks of highly radioactive matter. In my HEU refining facility 14 different models of klaxons, 3 of them steam powered, simultaneously deafen the entire facility the instant a pressure drop or burst of radiation is detected. The two backup NRC guys are physically pulled out of bed and sent to join the already on-site NRC guy within 30 minutes.
Your instinct may be that this is impractical; abnormal things would cause false alarms so frequently they would be ignored. I expect something more; making HEU should be on par with maneuvering in orbit. I don't care if it costs a lot. Little rivers of HEU should not be cascading down elevator shafts. Ever. If the Navy and its contractors can't afford it then stop fucking around with it. however, it may be possible to place upper and lower bounds on some of the classified parameters I agree. I'm not particularly upset by this; the NRC was well aware of the incident. Keeping this quiet was government policy, not some contractor hiding mistakes. The policy, misguided or not, was also brief and is now subject to congressional scrutiny. So some congress critter didn't get to fly out and hold a press conference the same day. Yawn.
Just an FYI; highly enriched fuel is used for naval reactors (aircraft carriers, submarines, etc.) Typical power reactors aren't designed to burn this in large quantities.
Here's a photo of the facility. That's a guard tower in the right foreground.
They kept a lid on it for 3 years. I note that this was NRC policy, as opposed to a company cover up. The NRC is typically rather open about these sort of events.
Worse, after they get their own machine hacked, they'll blame MSN. They'll contact whatever 'customer service' facility is provided and scream bloody murder. If they manage to get fired as a result they may even sue. Don't doubt that there are employers capable of getting litigious with MSN over it, also.
Sadly, this is the reality of operating an IM/Email/SMS service today. Look carefully at that graphic realize that it is not an exaggeration.
I have a method of Minnesota infrastructure maintenance that can assure sound bridges. My technique involves billing the Twins owner for the $392 million of government revenue (collected via a sale tax hike) being used to fund the new $522 million baseball stadium. My technique also involves continuing to dash the hopes of Minnesota football fans for a new government funded $0.5 billion football stadium. Instead, let the team owners rely on sports geek revenue to fund their stadiums, and misappropriate the tax revenue into infrastructure.
On the other hand, perhaps it isn't necessary to piss off all the Minnesota sports geeks (read: voters) and instead utilize the $2 billion dollar state surplus to deal with the states bridges. But alas, there are voters to buy with that money.
This is about the priorities of the citizens of a staggeringly wealthy nation being focused on everything but the infrastructure.
It's working. It's not fast and good karma isn't the motivation, but it IS working.
Just because Google's ambition happens to align with desires of the common consumer doesn't make the statement false. Google is attempting to use money to influence a regulatory body in its favor. Google would love to establish a precedent for their model. The benefits to Google are obvious.
Don't discard reason by denying the truth of the assertion. Instead, rationalize your wishes like so: Dear CTIA,
Someone you don't own can now afford to compete with your bribes to obtain regulatory favor.
Enjoy!
As I see it, there are two possibilities:
The first is that the story actually had credibility with Zonk and he was more than happy to put it up. Put Halliburton in a story and the truthers soil themselves. The second; Zonk saw through it like any other technically savy grownup and knew it would be ridiculed. In that case it is a sort of April Fools joke.
Anyhow, there are plenty of reasonable explanations already posted for the 'evidence' provided. Here is one I didn't notice; why would 'they' use easily identified domains to spy on people? 'They' run the world so clearly 'they' could arrange for something less obvious, no?
Finally, is there any recourse for a business that has had it's products publicly slandered? I'd hate to see Microsoft get a piece of
<activex platform="x86">
<.NET version="3.0.12.1">
<subscriber-only msn-micropay-retailer-id="4f022c73a0-3fcc2-56ca1"
<advertisement required="true" duration="30">
The "giant" in this case would "innovate" the Web to death. I think the w3c folks believe that waiting for Microsoft sanction is exactly the wrong thing to do. The right thing is compelling standards that attract use despite the dreams of companies like Microsoft.
Plants mine soil for carbon. Petroleum is widely used as fertilizer due to this. If I dump oil on the ground (or not; perhaps I happen to have rich soil somewhere,) dig it back up with plants, make a liquid from it and burn it in an engine, is this considered carbon neutral? Oil fertilizer or not, carbon that was sequestered in the ground is now in the atmosphere.
Seems fishy to me.
Anyhow, it would be nice to stop bombing atavists for gas; carbon neutral or not there are plenty of reasons to pursue this.
(the rest of this applies to the grandparent)
If one imagines that what Dell advertises two clicks into their site is a bellweather of the personal computer market [1], observe that the lowest end Inspiron is a 64-bit system. Both Apple and Adobe [2] appear to be oblivious to the fact that for most customers it is now next to impossible to obtain a non-64-bit platform. Granted, running 32-bit operating systems on recent hardware is certainly the current practice, but they should be capable of envisioning the immediate future where this transitional aberration no longer applies.
They fail to make that leap because your non-mainstream ways constitute zero significance for them. It's a giant "fuck you, geek". Got a problem with our AT&T only policy because you don't wish to contribute to that corporate beast? Fork over the cash and deal with it, and don't sully our message boards with your geekery either.
Congratulations; you and the other frenzied elois have just reinforced all of this with your disposable income. The next time you witness some business step on its customers just nod your head and smile; it's you being served precisely as you deserve.
[1] It is, but failure to allow the possibility that it might not be results in hysterical flame-age.
[2] Picking only two high profile examples.
FYI: you don't HAVE to smoke at stopovers. I smoke and travel. Going a half day or more without a smoke is not suffering. Sit quietly in the terminal, manage your luggage and keep your shoes on.
What about natural gas plants?
Both. Some plants drive turbines directly. This is the case with plants that supplement base power generation during peaks. They start very rapidly to match demand and range in size from small emergency units to turbines the size of a small house. Others are indirect. In some cases gas is used in the same plant with coal. There are a wide variety of configurations for turning fossil fuels into electricity and gas (LPG, NG, etc.) is very flexible.