I know this is going to get modded down but this is what the community as a whole gets for having the luxury of being pseudo-anonymous.
There isn't much for accountability when it comes to the net and everyone knows this. Lawmakers are doing very little about SPAM and it's a form of DoS but people cry afoul when some kids were pissed off at someone on IRC and DoS multiple large networks.
If people aren't required to be accountable for ALL of their actions then this isn't going to stop anytime soon. Unfortunately it's not hard to get access to connections with a lot of bandwidth so it's easy to pound anyone into oblivion.
I don't know what the solution is but as more companies get DoS'ed while their livelyhood depends on the net, you'll see more being done.
My question is if it costs companies so much to deal with SPAM, why isn't more being done? Isn't this a similar issue?
We have not reached the point that consumers are unwilling to spend between 13-18 dollars per cd. If they were then record sales would be steadily dropping.
They aren't steadily dropping and this may be because Napster has allowed people to sample music who then buy the CD as many music sharing proponents say.
So your reasoning is that Napster got big because people were tired of paying for cd's goes against what everyone saying which is that file sharing programs help sell more music.
In the end it's arguments like yours that fuel the RIAA's fires even more. The whole point is that if someone is unwilling to pay $18 a cd, then they'll do it illegally which just encourages more infringements on our freedoms.
The fact is, we're not at that point. Consumers buy a shitload of cd's, go see lots of movies, and don't boycott RIAA/MPAA on a widescale. Until that happens, your "Duh, no shit. We've already reached that point" statement is pointless.
This post deserves a lot of credit. Finally something the avg. "slashdot reader" can do. It seems a lot of times people don't like to call their state Senators and local Representatives...
Great... so can we expect Intel to keep extending the pipeline in the processor so they can up the clock rate? Or are they going to actually going to improve the processor for something other than Quake?
Nowadays all I associate clockrate with is Intel's marketing machine. AMD has slowly increased the clock rate and kept the price/performance gap decent AFAIK.
At any rate, sounds like good engineering innovation.
Not too long ago a link was posted to an interview with Joel Spolsky who used to work at Microsoft.
His comments about code reworking and rewriting have a lot of insight in them.
Here are some quotes from his article:
SMS: Joel, what, in your opinion, is the single greatest development sin a software company can commit?
Joel: Deciding to completely rewrite your product from scratch, on the theory that all your code is messy and bug prone and is bloated and needs to be completely rethought and rebuild from ground zero.
SMS: Uh, what's wrong with that?
Joel: Because it's almost never true. It's not like code rusts if it's not used. The idea that new code is better than old is patently absurd. Old code has been used. It has been tested. Lots of bugs have been found, and they've been fixed. There's nothing wrong with it.
The point is this... The benefits of spending time rewriting code completely may be a waste of the companies resources, this is for you to determine.
His interview is here:
http://www.softwaremarketsolution.com/index_2.ht m
and his site has more information about the concepts here:
http://joel.editthispage.com/articles/fog0000000 06 9.html
Re:Value added or just paying for bandwidth?
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I don't know if you missed my point but it was about having something "Value Added". Like so many other threads point out, that's 120 dollars a year more than Microsoft.
"By allowing people to download stuff for free(although relatively slowly), they're still basically giving you money from their pockets.
And so is every GPL developer on the planet. Giving your time/bandwidth/food whatever to people for free is something that's not new but offer something if you're going to charge 9.95 for "more bandwidth".
Also most businesses on the Internet understand that bandwidth costs money but it's an expense that they have to pay for. They get the convienence of letting people download their software instead of having to run an operation that presses cds, handles ordering and a warehouse to ship people cds.
So please, until you start understanding economics and charging 120 dollars a year for no value added except a faster download, don't bitch.
Ximian is not penetrating the market that will pay for that type of service, especially to make it a sustainable business model.
I know everyone has to pay for their expenses but what's the deal? The only value added that you get is "bandwidth".
How can consumers be sure they're not just throttling what they used to give away for free and that what they're charging is fair?
If you compare this to Salon charging for content, Salon actually provides content that is above and beyond their standard content. This goes back to the whole discussion of, "How can you take what's free away and try to sell it?"
I don't see the value in providing bandwidth except to larger corporations who do massive amounts of updates but again, how far as Linux and Ximian penetrated corporations as a desktop?
It's being overused to the point that it's being used as a substitute for face to face and voice communication.
I've seen it used in situations where people are too afraid to deliver bad news or get in a possibly heated confrontation that they just fire an email off without thinking. One example is the.com layoffs. In stead of a director/manager standing in front of you having to answer tough questions, they just de-activate your security badge, throw your stuff out the window and escort you to your car.
E-mail is great for factual information but is very poor at conveying feelings or the tone of the person.
So now we have people sending out BCE (SPAM) that the customers end up paying for, Passive people using it as a substitute for face to face conversation, and enormous amounts of useless information (read CC: & FW).
Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.
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We could all get into a spat about open source, and contributing to technology in general but why is it necessary?
I thought the whole concept of a standards body was so that everyone could profit from the technology, not one company figure out what others on a standards body or group may use.
I'm sure many have brought this up but why did Rambus choose to join the standards body if it had no intention to contribute (without a steep price)
It seems if they wanted to cover their buts they should have never joined JEDEC. I think the mere fact that they did join JEDEC and patent their technology *after* meeting with other companies is insulting and regardless of who's design it was, they screwed up.
So many people utter over and over, it's all about execution. Rambus doesn't have a clue.
I have discussions about this all the time with co-workers. I have those battles all the time with some of the people I work with, they either avoid you or just say "Yup, uhhuh, yup, sure." You could stereotype many people but I think it all comes down to people being intimidated by someone younger who knows more.
After awhile you do learn to pick which battles you fight because you'll either be in constant disagreement or always fighting the battle of FUD and misinformation.
If people don't stereotype you for a "kid who knows nothing", then after awhile of proving your technical prowess, you'll be treated better and maybe as even an equal.
If your collegues are smarter than you and older, then just shut your mouth, sit back and learn as much as you can.
Can I just ask a question. How's the uptime on your Compaq quad processor Xeon MS Sql box.
How's the scalability on those compaq's too? Past 8 processors?
This argument gets old, people always bitch about Sun boxen but the fact of the matter is, if you can afford a Sun box and you care about uptime and reliability, you'll most likely pick a Sun based platform instead of Intel, and a Sun/Oracle based software platform instead of Win2k and MS SQL.
Remember the million dollar bet by Larry Elison? If someone can benchmark MS SQL coming within 1/100th of the performance as Oracle he'll pay them 1 million dollars.
They did, at 1/16th the cost to get within 1/100th of the performance.
There currently *is* a driver for the DXR2 which is Creative Labs' own card. After the DXR2 5x Kit they sold, they decided to use Sigma's card which Sigma *refuses* to release specs to.
The DXR2 Project is pretty mature now sporting DVD/VCD playing with video Overlay.
One of the only benefits the DXR3 card has over the DXR2 is that it can play DTS out with the windows software.
As far as I'm concerned, right now they both don't scale well to anything over 4cpus. There is support for 8 and 16 with NT but that's with NT Datacenter blah blah blah. Solaris is one of the only operating systems I've seen that scales *well*. Starfire says it all.
I think you're missing the point. Netpliance screwed up by selling something under the assumption people wouldn't open it up. They sold something below cost because they thought that the 21.95 a month would recoup the loss of the hardware. They made the mistake of not making people sign a contract. It's their fault, nobody is denying that. If someone buys a car, they don't pay $2,000 for a Ford Taurus with Ford assuming that you'll get an oil change from only them. That's why it's a lot more than $2,000 and that's also why there is a contract with a lease. I guess Netpliance can do something really great with this if they choose but they won't be the first or the last company to sell hardware. They're one of the first to sell something for pennies and not sticking a binding contract onto it. - Ed
Pardon me for asking but what's the "appropriate operating system"? People can't have a choice? Isn't that also known as taking away freedoms? The software 'decoder' has been around for a long time. MPEG2 video isn't something new here genius. It's CSS that prevents you from using a *legal* decoder. It's not MPEG2 that requires an "appropriate operating system". Idiocy - Never Underestimate The Power of Stupid People in Large Groups. (c) www.despair.com The above line says it all.
With the bandwidth sharing and if there were to be a price hike, what's the difference? ADSL should provide more consistent bandwidth than @home's service that fluctuates all of the time. No upload cap either. Also ADSL is gaining more availability. Why buy @Home's crap now? What could AOL have to offer? More BS?
I believe someone did benchmark Ms-SQL 7 to come within 1/100 of the performance, however it also was at 1/16 the cost. So in other words, It'll take quite a bit of work and *a lot* of money to come even close to Oracle's performance
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I know this is going to get modded down but this is what the community as a whole gets for having the luxury of being pseudo-anonymous.
There isn't much for accountability when it comes to the net and everyone knows this. Lawmakers are doing very little about SPAM and it's a form of DoS but people cry afoul when some kids were pissed off at someone on IRC and DoS multiple large networks.
If people aren't required to be accountable for ALL of their actions then this isn't going to stop anytime soon. Unfortunately it's not hard to get access to connections with a lot of bandwidth so it's easy to pound anyone into oblivion.
I don't know what the solution is but as more companies get DoS'ed while their livelyhood depends on the net, you'll see more being done.
My question is if it costs companies so much to deal with SPAM, why isn't more being done? Isn't this a similar issue?
Duh no shit?
We have not reached the point that consumers are unwilling to spend between 13-18 dollars per cd. If they were then record sales would be steadily dropping.
They aren't steadily dropping and this may be because Napster has allowed people to sample music who then buy the CD as many music sharing proponents say.
So your reasoning is that Napster got big because people were tired of paying for cd's goes against what everyone saying which is that file sharing programs help sell more music.
In the end it's arguments like yours that fuel the RIAA's fires even more. The whole point is that if someone is unwilling to pay $18 a cd, then they'll do it illegally which just encourages more infringements on our freedoms.
The fact is, we're not at that point. Consumers buy a shitload of cd's, go see lots of movies, and don't boycott RIAA/MPAA on a widescale. Until that happens, your "Duh, no shit. We've already reached that point" statement is pointless.
But doesn't there come a point when the price gets too ridiculous to purchase Cd's and consumers just say the hell with that?
Who are they really hurting by raising the prices of cds? I tend to think that eventually they'll only end up hurting themselves as they have been.
This post deserves a lot of credit. Finally something the avg. "slashdot reader" can do. It seems a lot of times people don't like to call their state Senators and local Representatives...
So here's an easy exercise of civil disobediance.
Great... so can we expect Intel to keep extending the pipeline in the processor so they can up the clock rate? Or are they going to actually going to improve the processor for something other than Quake?
Nowadays all I associate clockrate with is Intel's marketing machine. AMD has slowly increased the clock rate and kept the price/performance gap decent AFAIK.
At any rate, sounds like good engineering innovation.
Jobs: Who leaked those videos? Find them and kill them. And as for that Mac site, send a cease and desist ASAP.
Looks like a cool device, perhaps as cool as the iPod they're putting out.
His comments about code reworking and rewriting have a lot of insight in them.
Here are some quotes from his article:
The point is this... The benefits of spending time rewriting code completely may be a waste of the companies resources, this is for you to determine.
His interview is here:
http://www.softwaremarketsolution.com/index_2.h
and his site has more information about the concepts here:
http://joel.editthispage.com/articles/fog000000
I don't know if you missed my point but it was about having something "Value Added". Like so many other threads point out, that's 120 dollars a year more than Microsoft.
"By allowing people to download stuff for free(although relatively slowly), they're still basically giving you money from their pockets.
And so is every GPL developer on the planet. Giving your time/bandwidth/food whatever to people for free is something that's not new but offer something if you're going to charge 9.95 for "more bandwidth".
Also most businesses on the Internet understand that bandwidth costs money but it's an expense that they have to pay for. They get the convienence of letting people download their software instead of having to run an operation that presses cds, handles ordering and a warehouse to ship people cds.
So please, until you start understanding economics and charging 120 dollars a year for no value added except a faster download, don't bitch.
Ximian is not penetrating the market that will pay for that type of service, especially to make it a sustainable business model.
I know everyone has to pay for their expenses but what's the deal? The only value added that you get is "bandwidth".
How can consumers be sure they're not just throttling what they used to give away for free and that what they're charging is fair?
If you compare this to Salon charging for content, Salon actually provides content that is above and beyond their standard content. This goes back to the whole discussion of, "How can you take what's free away and try to sell it?"
I don't see the value in providing bandwidth except to larger corporations who do massive amounts of updates but again, how far as Linux and Ximian penetrated corporations as a desktop?
It's being overused to the point that it's being used as a substitute for face to face and voice communication.
.com layoffs. In stead of a director/manager standing in front of you having to answer tough questions, they just de-activate your security badge, throw your stuff out the window and escort you to your car.
I've seen it used in situations where people are too afraid to deliver bad news or get in a possibly heated confrontation that they just fire an email off without thinking. One example is the
E-mail is great for factual information but is very poor at conveying feelings or the tone of the person.
So now we have people sending out BCE (SPAM) that the customers end up paying for, Passive people using it as a substitute for face to face conversation, and enormous amounts of useless information (read CC: & FW).
Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.
We could all get into a spat about open source, and contributing to technology in general but why is it necessary?
I thought the whole concept of a standards body was so that everyone could profit from the technology, not one company figure out what others on a standards body or group may use.
I'm sure many have brought this up but why did Rambus choose to join the standards body if it had no intention to contribute (without a steep price)
It seems if they wanted to cover their buts they should have never joined JEDEC.
I think the mere fact that they did join JEDEC and patent their technology *after* meeting with other companies is insulting and regardless of who's design it was, they screwed up.
So many people utter over and over, it's all about execution. Rambus doesn't have a clue.
But aren't schools supposed to help children? Aren't they supposed to assist their development?
If they're not supposed to do that then aren't they supposed to let the parents know when there are problems?
Hindsight catching up with us again... It's those damned gifted kids being all "weird" again.
I think everyone has a responsiblity to help those who can't help themselves, especially 13 year olds.
After awhile you do learn to pick which battles you fight because you'll either be in constant disagreement or always fighting the battle of FUD and misinformation.
If people don't stereotype you for a "kid who knows nothing", then after awhile of proving your technical prowess, you'll be treated better and maybe as even an equal.
If your collegues are smarter than you and older, then just shut your mouth, sit back and learn as much as you can.
Can I just ask a question. How's the uptime on your Compaq quad processor Xeon MS Sql box.
How's the scalability on those compaq's too? Past 8 processors?
This argument gets old, people always bitch about Sun boxen but the fact of the matter is, if you can afford a Sun box and you care about uptime and reliability, you'll most likely pick a Sun based platform instead of Intel, and a Sun/Oracle based software platform instead of Win2k and MS SQL.
Remember the million dollar bet by Larry Elison? If someone can benchmark MS SQL coming within 1/100th of the performance as Oracle he'll pay them 1 million dollars.
They did, at 1/16th the cost to get within 1/100th of the performance.
There currently *is* a driver for the DXR2 which is Creative Labs' own card. After the DXR2 5x Kit they sold, they decided to use Sigma's card which Sigma *refuses* to release specs to.
The DXR2 Project is pretty mature now sporting DVD/VCD playing with video Overlay.
One of the only benefits the DXR3 card has over the DXR2 is that it can play DTS out with the windows software.
Here's the DXR2/Soundblaster Live OSS stuff
- Ed Spidre
As far as I'm concerned, right now they both don't scale well to anything over 4cpus. There is support for 8 and 16 with NT but that's with NT Datacenter blah blah blah. Solaris is one of the only operating systems I've seen that scales *well*. Starfire says it all.
- Ed
I think you're missing the point. Netpliance screwed up by selling something under the assumption people wouldn't open it up. They sold something below cost because they thought that the 21.95 a month would recoup the loss of the hardware. They made the mistake of not making people sign a contract. It's their fault, nobody is denying that. If someone buys a car, they don't pay $2,000 for a Ford Taurus with Ford assuming that you'll get an oil change from only them. That's why it's a lot more than $2,000 and that's also why there is a contract with a lease. I guess Netpliance can do something really great with this if they choose but they won't be the first or the last company to sell hardware. They're one of the first to sell something for pennies and not sticking a binding contract onto it. - Ed
Pardon me for asking but what's the "appropriate operating system"? People can't have a choice? Isn't that also known as taking away freedoms? The software 'decoder' has been around for a long time. MPEG2 video isn't something new here genius. It's CSS that prevents you from using a *legal* decoder. It's not MPEG2 that requires an "appropriate operating system". Idiocy - Never Underestimate The Power of Stupid People in Large Groups. (c) www.despair.com The above line says it all.
With the bandwidth sharing and if there were to be a price hike, what's the difference? ADSL should provide more consistent bandwidth than @home's service that fluctuates all of the time. No upload cap either. Also ADSL is gaining more availability. Why buy @Home's crap now? What could AOL have to offer? More BS?
I believe someone did benchmark Ms-SQL 7 to come within 1/100 of the performance, however it also was at 1/16 the cost. So in other words, It'll take quite a bit of work and *a lot* of money to come even close to Oracle's performance