no I'm from the UK... but I guess that over the years of the internet the US has infected my spelling:)
I should clarify though. You are right in that you can have multiple TVs lying around and no licence, but it is for you to prove that you are unable to receive transmissions. I have the Migla TVbook pro for my macbook pro (which has a portable aerial) Try proving to the licence commission that I don't use it.
If you buy a TV from a shop and don't pay cash and your registered location has never had a TV before then rest assured you'll get a visit. We even got a visit within weeks of moving house once, we had a licence but due to the address change it flagged their system.
The best way I know of to avoid paying however is to wait until you get a visit. Tell them that they are not allowed to enter your home, and force them to go get a warrant. This gives you the time to go buy a licence since by law they can only force entry with the police. Not something I've tried before but:)
BTW, talking about mis-information, what do you mean we don't watch TV with adverts? It was the adverts that stopped me watching TV (and yes the BBC channels are equally as bad now!) in the first place.
A PC TV card is also considered a TV... the only thing you dont need to pay a license for is a B/W TV and it wasn't that long ago it was just at a reduced rate....:-| meh
Check your license, if you have a Tv that has a working tuner, you NEED a license. Monitors are not working TVs are they? I'm not sure where you think the discrepancy is here.
A PC TV card is also considered a TV... the only thing you dont need to pay a license for is a B/W TV and it wasn't that long ago it was just at a reduced rate....:-| meh
Here is a thought... I think its fair enough people outside the UK cant see the stream (netflix etc do it to us all the time) since we do pay the license... but what is to stop people in the uk that dont?
Remember, its illegal in the UK to use a TV without a BBC license, regardless of what channels you watch or purpose you have for using it
$200k in donations... the support of the many indie labels out there and a 100,000 strong class action... to finally prove that the *IAA are a cartel and extort money out of their customers akin to drug dealers?
One person with 1 or 2 lawyers w/ 200k is not going to go far with the mighty media mafiaa and their company sized legal departments... but if you also have the support of 100,000 other rather pissed off customers tied together with those two layers and 200k you could blow the lid right of the scam and the judge/jury would not be able to deny the show of public force.
that already happens in the uk if you've had one defined STD for whatever reason (I know this because I was tested negative and before being tested was told that the results could make a difference to insurance etc) Why would the insurance companies not want more reasons to screw you out of more money?
I think we are one step closer to such a situation... it wont be long before Micheal Dell, Richard Branson and Bill Gates are all classed as 'pizza delivery boys'
well you would be the first one ever to add me to their foe list... which I considered quite personal at the time (and btw I'm not even sure if you replied to the right post last time) So I just thought I'd throw something back at you since I noticed the symbols ( you being the only person on my own list you stuck out) I am NOT a kindle hater.... I just keep hearing a mix mash of what can be done with the device and so far it sounds like Amazon is trying to create a market rather than fill one that needed filled in the first place. I use my pda/phone for reading e-books, once someone (preferably with less DRM and grip on books than amazon) brings out a book reader that fits my needs I'll probably buy it.
So hey:) remove the symbol, I'll do the same and next time we meet on/. I'll have forgotten who you were and wont think about adding that 'personal' touch. I'm not even sure one post we disagreed on really justified that in the first place?
"Congress did not "ban humans on Mars". They stopped NASA's funding for a human mission to Mars and told it to concentrate on other things. Other nations, or private citizens of the US if I understand correctly, are free to shoot for it."
Did you really mean that? I read it as:
Congress did not "ban humans on Mars". They stopped NASA's funding for a human mission to Mars and told it to concentrate on other things. Other nations, or private citizens of the US if I understand correctly, they are free to shoot at.
I do agree... and maybe an independent body would just become corrupt like the rest of them BUT.
In googles interest, they are a search engine and not a publisher and for that reason are not subject to the indexes of child porn and other illegal activity. Once google start going down the road of blocking spam and other malicious sites it could be suggested they lose the right of being an automatic aggregation engine.
All the The pirate bay does is index pointer links, all google does is index pointer links -- one of them has a safe harbour in the US and the other does not. How long before Google itself loses its 'safe harbour' ?
Well I'm not governed under your/their stupid laws... but I'm guessing they wouldnt take that for an answer if I disassembled Amazons mobi DRM for 'ownership' issues.
who compared it to the EEE PC? did I miss something?
The eink tech does sound promising, but for that price I wouldn't buy monochrome period. Just my opinion personally but I think a hacked sony reader would be far better (minus the net support). I have an HTC o2 XDA II that I've read a lot of MS.lit books on. I really liked the experience and parallel to the dead tree fanatics I think it will be the future, just not with the Kindle. Add to that I simply wont buy in to a DRM tech that can't be hacked.
I think this device will fail like the Apple Newton. Well before its time, and the fact its launched by a book company screams pain to me.
Regarding the mailling your stuff to Amazon comment. I was informed of that in a podcast. They suggested it was so Amazon could add thier own DRM to your content. They didnt want to hand out the DRM wrapper and they also dont want you reading unprotected stuff on their device.
I cant remember which podcast it was ( I listen to so many of them) but I've heard such restrictions once or twice and if its not true then there is A HELL of a lot of FUD being spread about this device -- on that note I'll now go RTFA:D
Oh, and because it uses the 3G network (no fee, presumably included in cost of the device) you don't need a wireless hotspot, you can read slashdot on the go anywhere you have a cell signal.
Can you? I heard even free had a price to amazon. Is there a full webbrowser? RSS feeds aren't even free either...
One word: BROKEN.
Its just a dire shame the most popular book company had to bring it out:-| I wish it was some independent hardware company.
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heh and your geek card, hand it in on your way out sir ;)
:( )
(its a pita ass... I did exactly that the other week there
no I'm from the UK... but I guess that over the years of the internet the US has infected my spelling :)
:)
I should clarify though. You are right in that you can have multiple TVs lying around and no licence, but it is for you to prove that you are unable to receive transmissions. I have the Migla TVbook pro for my macbook pro (which has a portable aerial) Try proving to the licence commission that I don't use it.
If you buy a TV from a shop and don't pay cash and your registered location has never had a TV before then rest assured you'll get a visit. We even got a visit within weeks of moving house once, we had a licence but due to the address change it flagged their system.
The best way I know of to avoid paying however is to wait until you get a visit. Tell them that they are not allowed to enter your home, and force them to go get a warrant. This gives you the time to go buy a licence since by law they can only force entry with the police. Not something I've tried before but
BTW, talking about mis-information, what do you mean we don't watch TV with adverts? It was the adverts that stopped me watching TV (and yes the BBC channels are equally as bad now!) in the first place.
A PC TV card is also considered a TV... the only thing you dont need to pay a license for is a B/W TV and it wasn't that long ago it was just at a reduced rate.... :-| meh
Check your license, if you have a Tv that has a working tuner, you NEED a license. Monitors are not working TVs are they? I'm not sure where you think the discrepancy is here.
A PC TV card is also considered a TV... the only thing you dont need to pay a license for is a B/W TV and it wasn't that long ago it was just at a reduced rate.... :-| meh
Here is a thought... I think its fair enough people outside the UK cant see the stream (netflix etc do it to us all the time) since we do pay the license... but what is to stop people in the uk that dont?
Remember, its illegal in the UK to use a TV without a BBC license, regardless of what channels you watch or purpose you have for using it
ok how about ...
$200k in donations...
the support of the many indie labels out there
and a 100,000 strong class action... to finally prove that the *IAA are a cartel and extort money out of their customers akin to drug dealers?
One person with 1 or 2 lawyers w/ 200k is not going to go far with the mighty media mafiaa and their company sized legal departments... but if you also have the support of 100,000 other rather pissed off customers tied together with those two layers and 200k you could blow the lid right of the scam and the judge/jury would not be able to deny the show of public force.
are they? when large media conglomerates are already suggesting the amount of funding they give the RIAA?
sadly, I do not think that is too far from the truth. :-|
ack, I've replied to your post to null my redundancy mod, guess my finger slipped :-|
that already happens in the uk if you've had one defined STD for whatever reason (I know this because I was tested negative and before being tested was told that the results could make a difference to insurance etc) Why would the insurance companies not want more reasons to screw you out of more money?
I think we are one step closer to such a situation... it wont be long before Micheal Dell, Richard Branson and Bill Gates are all classed as 'pizza delivery boys'
if you didnt just read the FUD you'd also know that those 700 'bugs' include new feature requests and niggles, few to nil of them are terminal!
ver 3 of firefox should be much better, but agreed it has been going downhill since 1.5+
well you would be the first one ever to add me to their foe list ... which I considered quite personal at the time (and btw I'm not even sure if you replied to the right post last time) So I just thought I'd throw something back at you since I noticed the symbols ( you being the only person on my own list you stuck out) I am NOT a kindle hater.... I just keep hearing a mix mash of what can be done with the device and so far it sounds like Amazon is trying to create a market rather than fill one that needed filled in the first place. I use my pda/phone for reading e-books, once someone (preferably with less DRM and grip on books than amazon) brings out a book reader that fits my needs I'll probably buy it.
:) remove the symbol, I'll do the same and next time we meet on /. I'll have forgotten who you were and wont think about adding that 'personal' touch. I'm not even sure one post we disagreed on really justified that in the first place?
So hey
I'm thinking he means the old media cds/dvds he has.... or maybe you are just clueless - again.
"Congress did not "ban humans on Mars". They stopped NASA's funding for a human mission to Mars and told it to concentrate on other things. Other nations, or private citizens of the US if I understand correctly, are free to shoot for it."
:)
Did you really mean that? I read it as:
Congress did not "ban humans on Mars". They stopped NASA's funding for a human mission to Mars and told it to concentrate on other things. Other nations, or private citizens of the US if I understand correctly, they are free to shoot at.
hmmmmmm
"I guess this is one way to get Vista's adoption rate to go up. Just let it be pirated!"
Agreed!! I'm sure they took WGA off IE7 for the same reason.
you tell us, you're the ones that bastardised it
I do agree... and maybe an independent body would just become corrupt like the rest of them BUT.
In googles interest, they are a search engine and not a publisher and for that reason are not subject to the indexes of child porn and other illegal activity. Once google start going down the road of blocking spam and other malicious sites it could be suggested they lose the right of being an automatic aggregation engine.
All the The pirate bay does is index pointer links, all google does is index pointer links -- one of them has a safe harbour in the US and the other does not. How long before Google itself loses its 'safe harbour' ?
So google decides that one of its competitors is malware and purges all existence of them...
I'm thinking an independent body would be better deciding what is and what is not malware.
ahhh right :) sweet, thanks for the information.
Well I'm not governed under your/their stupid laws ... but I'm guessing they wouldnt take that for an answer if I disassembled Amazons mobi DRM for 'ownership' issues.
surely that guys disassembly of the file was in breach of the DMCA too? :)
who compared it to the EEE PC? did I miss something?
.lit books on. I really liked the experience and parallel to the dead tree fanatics I think it will be the future, just not with the Kindle. Add to that I simply wont buy in to a DRM tech that can't be hacked.
:D
The eink tech does sound promising, but for that price I wouldn't buy monochrome period. Just my opinion personally but I think a hacked sony reader would be far better (minus the net support). I have an HTC o2 XDA II that I've read a lot of MS
I think this device will fail like the Apple Newton. Well before its time, and the fact its launched by a book company screams pain to me.
Regarding the mailling your stuff to Amazon comment. I was informed of that in a podcast. They suggested it was so Amazon could add thier own DRM to your content. They didnt want to hand out the DRM wrapper and they also dont want you reading unprotected stuff on their device.
I cant remember which podcast it was ( I listen to so many of them) but I've heard such restrictions once or twice and if its not true then there is A HELL of a lot of FUD being spread about this device -- on that note I'll now go RTFA
well apparently the only way you can get your own stuff on it is to mail them with it...
so no thanks: BROKEN!
Oh, and because it uses the 3G network (no fee, presumably included in cost of the device) you don't need a wireless hotspot, you can read slashdot on the go anywhere you have a cell signal.
:-| I wish it was some independent hardware company.
Can you? I heard even free had a price to amazon. Is there a full webbrowser? RSS feeds aren't even free either...
One word: BROKEN.
Its just a dire shame the most popular book company had to bring it out
IT wont benefit the children when Intel and Microsoft put them out of business and fire the prices up. $3 for Windows? come on.