If the developer(s) don't want to relicense the code for you, then deal with it - either make your code compatible with his, or don't use his source and write your own.
Sometimes, developers really don't ever want their programs in a commercial situation. That is their right.
I would use the BSD license for my work more often, its just that companies like M$ leave me no choice but to license my stuff under GPL right off the bat out of concern that it might be horribly borgified if its useful.
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Interesting... Looks like he may have elicited alot of responses...
>"As you do that over a period of 20-odd years, you > end up with a lot of features that aren't used by > many people," Mundie said. Left unmanaged, he > explained, these chunks of code become breeding > grounds for security holes.
How about most features added to Windows because of competition reasons that have never been used or even thought about by many (if not most) people?
I think IE describes the 'chunks of code' that 'become breeding grounds for security holes'.
And hiding hacks like this is a good reason why? Because a company was too stupid to protect their own systems well enough? Didn't want to spend the money to hire a security expert to help them get it right? I have no remorse for companies who are too cheap.
Anyway, did anyone bother to notice that I was arrested and spent 5 months in jail on false hacking charges even though the charges were eventually dropped?
Probably not - this is what happens when you allow people to cover up incidents. Someone innocent gets caught in the crossfire and they get railroaded (like me). Its too easy to run around these days screaming HACKER HACKER HACKER so you can cover up your own stupidity/illegal actions/whatever.
(yes, I was set up. I was probably - almost guaranteed to have been - set up to keep me from talking about the illegal actions of my former employer, but I'll never know)
Maybe Taco's friend should stop using his dialup for e-mail and get either a static IP dialup or DSL/Cable/whatever rather then complaining? Or heres an even better idea - why doesn't his friend use his provider's mail server for outgoing mail? Interesting idea eh?
The DUL does exactly what it says it does - block dialups. Its not like its false advertising.
I have no remorse/care for people who don't understand the concept of blacklists and why they are used/needed. Taco consistantly shows his ignorance for things, and I'm sick of it.
How true it is. My old Quadra 800 is still chugging along, just as good as the first day it was turned on. Install A/UX on that baby and you have a rather solid and reliable system that many people would swear by.
Its bad enough I put up with popups (well, heh, I dont even really do that anymore, NoAds takes care of that:), but changing my browser? No way in hell.
Ick, forced upgrades. Microsoft-like. I should smack you over the head for suggesting this type of thing. Goes totally against the idea of open source.
like the topic says... Shouldn't we be spending the money on more useful things rather then trying to prove 1024bit keys can be cracked? We know they can with enough horesepower.
If you buy the softare, then you should be able to hold the company responsible. You don't buy linux. Its free, its out there in the open. No guarantees at all.
Basically, two hours of them flying through the air at one another saying how they will be stronger then anyone else in the world has ever been. How exciting!
I do have to say, the SNES FF games were awesome. The gameplay, music, and detail in FF2 was what got me hooked on RPGs. When FF3 came out, here was a game which had the advantages of FF2, with a huge storyline. Spent many a weeks playing it.
The SOM series is another one of my favorites. Different style gameplay, but nonetheless, very well done. SOM2 (aka SD3), well, now there is a truely amazing game. It took advantage of some of the coolest features of the SNES. The multiple story line/characters made for a game that never got boring.
[bruns@summit bruns]$ rlytest 140.174.2.1 Connecting to 140.174.2.1... 220 toad.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5/8.7.3; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:52:02 -0800 (PST) HELO mail.2mbit.com 250 toad.com Hello bruns@summit.magenet.net [216.152.230.50], pleased to meet you MAIL FROM:nobody@[140.174.2.1] 250 nobody@[140.174.2.1]... Sender ok RCPT TO:bruns@mail.2mbit.com 250 Recipient ok DATA 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself (message body) 250 KAA10196 Message accepted for delivery QUIT 221 toad.com closing connection rlytest: relay accepted - final response code 221
Modular operating systems... Linux is a good example of a modular operating system - you pick only what you want an you can mix and match to get exactly what you want.
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They sued to get the broke MS JVM removed (you know, the bastardized one).
This is to get a compliant version included (the true sun java vm)
I think you hit the nail right on the head.
If the developer(s) don't want to relicense the code for you, then deal with it - either make your code compatible with his, or don't use his source and write your own.
Sometimes, developers really don't ever want their programs in a commercial situation. That is their right.
I would use the BSD license for my work more often, its just that companies like M$ leave me no choice but to license my stuff under GPL right off the bat out of concern that it might be horribly borgified if its useful.
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Interesting... Looks like he may have elicited alot of responses...
>"As you do that over a period of 20-odd years, you
> end up with a lot of features that aren't used by
> many people," Mundie said. Left unmanaged, he
> explained, these chunks of code become breeding
> grounds for security holes.
How about most features added to Windows because of competition reasons that have never been used or even thought about by many (if not most) people?
I think IE describes the 'chunks of code' that 'become breeding grounds for security holes'.
ActiveX, DirectX, X Box, XCopy, etc
:)
Billy boy must have a fetish with the letter X. Either that or porn
Hmm, if you are concerned about people watching, get Miranda ICQ and either the SecureIM or GPG plugin...
Both work and will secure your data.
And hiding hacks like this is a good reason why? Because a company was too stupid to protect their own systems well enough? Didn't want to spend the money to hire a security expert to help them get it right? I have no remorse for companies who are too cheap.
Anyway, did anyone bother to notice that I was arrested and spent 5 months in jail on false hacking charges even though the charges were eventually dropped?
Probably not - this is what happens when you allow people to cover up incidents. Someone innocent gets caught in the crossfire and they get railroaded (like me). Its too easy to run around these days screaming HACKER HACKER HACKER so you can cover up your own stupidity/illegal actions/whatever.
(yes, I was set up. I was probably - almost guaranteed to have been - set up to keep me from talking about the illegal actions of my former employer, but I'll never know)
Maybe Taco's friend should stop using his dialup for e-mail and get either a static IP dialup or DSL/Cable/whatever rather then complaining? Or heres an even better idea - why doesn't his friend use his provider's mail server for outgoing mail? Interesting idea eh?
The DUL does exactly what it says it does - block dialups. Its not like its false advertising.
I have no remorse/care for people who don't understand the concept of blacklists and why they are used/needed. Taco consistantly shows his ignorance for things, and I'm sick of it.
>Incidentally, the DUL is currently stopping CmdrTaco from directly emailing one of the Slash
coders.
Awww, poor baby, want a cookie?
Brian Bruns
antispam.2mbit.com - Anti-spam Resources/Services
How true it is. My old Quadra 800 is still chugging along, just as good as the first day it was turned on. Install A/UX on that baby and you have a rather solid and reliable system that many people would swear by.
In other news...
* Disconnecting the ethernet cable from your computer cuts down bandwidth usage to 0.
* Not posting a website cuts down your bandwidth to 0.
* Turning off your computer saves power
* Eating food reduces hunger
I hope you get the drift... Come on, these are common sense things, why do they have to be slashdot articles?
Its about frickin time the computer makers joined in on the fight. I'm happy to see someone besides apple helping to support the right to fair use.
Dare I say what everyone who reads slashdot is thinking?
What glue have they been sniffing today?
Touch my browser and die.
:), but changing my browser? No way in hell.
Its bad enough I put up with popups (well, heh, I dont even really do that anymore, NoAds takes care of that
Ick, forced upgrades. Microsoft-like. I should smack you over the head for suggesting this type of thing. Goes totally against the idea of open source.
like the topic says... Shouldn't we be spending the money on more useful things rather then trying to prove 1024bit keys can be cracked? We know they can with enough horesepower.
If you buy the softare, then you should be able to hold the company responsible. You don't buy linux. Its free, its out there in the open. No guarantees at all.
Microsoft wont allow you to blame them anyway if its their fault, so whats the point of banning other remote control programs?
Basically, two hours of them flying through the air at one another saying how they will be stronger then anyone else in the world has ever been. How exciting!
No more confusing then the pgp command line interface.
I do have to say, the SNES FF games were awesome. The gameplay, music, and detail in FF2 was what got me hooked on RPGs. When FF3 came out, here was a game which had the advantages of FF2, with a huge storyline. Spent many a weeks playing it.
The SOM series is another one of my favorites. Different style gameplay, but nonetheless, very well done. SOM2 (aka SD3), well, now there is a truely amazing game. It took advantage of some of the coolest features of the SNES. The multiple story line/characters made for a game that never got boring.
GPG.
Thats how you save PGP.
[bruns@summit bruns]$ rlytest 140.174.2.1 ...
Connecting to 140.174.2.1
220 toad.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5/8.7.3; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:52:02 -0800 (PST)
HELO mail.2mbit.com
250 toad.com Hello bruns@summit.magenet.net [216.152.230.50], pleased to meet you
MAIL FROM:nobody@[140.174.2.1]
250 nobody@[140.174.2.1]... Sender ok
RCPT TO:bruns@mail.2mbit.com
250 Recipient ok
DATA
354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
(message body)
250 KAA10196 Message accepted for delivery
QUIT
221 toad.com closing connection
rlytest: relay accepted - final response code 221
Still wide open.
Modular operating systems... Linux is a good example of a modular operating system - you pick only what you want an you can mix and match to get exactly what you want.
Windows might actually be halfway decent then...
I have a really good idea... Its amazing how noone else thought of this before...
Lets make parents live up to their responsibilities!
Dont punish those people who enjoy playing video games because you dont feel like bringing your kid up right and with proper values.