I was a computer operator on a carrier long long ago. The computer room was two decks under the flight deck, right under the arresting gear... pretty high up. My abandon ship station was to take a fire ax and whack the computer. I guess that old supply computer had too much vital technology. It wasn't the data in the computer, because it had no permanent storage, it was a tape operating system, and my job did not include whacking the tapes. So they were more concerned with the enemy capturing our carrier and recovering the computer technology than recovering the records of how much toilet paper we used. Must have been the water tight seals around the tape drive doors -- they claimed it could operate under water, tho how deep I never heard. And being so high up, 40 or so feet above the waterline... if that had ever gotten under water, I wasn't planning on being the duty operator.
Economies progress by making jobs more efficient so resources are freed for new jobs. You can't make new products unless some old product goes away or becomes more efficiently made.
It's hard to figure out who gets retrained in what way and how much. No system could be perfect. That Wal-Mart makes companies more efficient is not to be denied. That some companies don't adapt and go out of business, well, their workers and capital go into other businesses eventually, and the economy gradually becomes more efficient. If there were no unemployment benefits, the economy would become more efficient faster, but more people would suffer. If unemployment benefits were too easy to get and keep, the economy would progress more slowly. The trick is figuring out the best compromise. No one can ever know where that line is, and it keeps moving.
DEC was like Data General and every other mini-computer maker. They thought they had eliminated, or were eliminating, all rationale for mainframe computers. What they really had done was point out the path for computers cheap enough for small groups who couldn't afford big computers, and couldn't get any satisfaction from the corporate mainframe computer center. The PC was just an extension of this decentralization. But these minicomputer makers were too arrogant to understand that, and laughed at PCs as being useless. They didn't realize that just as small departments might want their own computers, so might individuals.
A bunch of watered down answers. Most of them dodged the real question and turned it into a marketing opportunity. Nothing solid here, no meat, hardly any potatoes. And the gravy was too watery to have any taste left.
Collateral damage happens regardless of the weapon. Which would you rather, have the hospital building collapse, break windows, send shrapnel all over, or have all the electronics die? Electronics are a lot easier to replace and workaround than collapsed buildings. A lot easier to come in and rescue survivors too.
The OS is largely irrelevant to speed tests which never swap or do I/O, like generating graphics. But servers show weaknesses in an OS like nothing else, since they really hammer context switches and I/O.
This IS significant. It shows the suits that Linux can handle swap intensive tasks, even tho they don't know that is what it shows.
"However, there are some elements who have an almost religious zealousness about Linux," he [Darl McBride] added. "In some ways, that can be scary for anyone opposing their positions."
As if SCO's position isn't religious zealotry to the max!
Then there's sanity on the other side:
"I just don't buy it," said Bruce Perens, a Berkeley, Calif.-based Linux developer and open source advocate. " This is just an effort to discredit the open-source community. "If there were real threats, the police would be there instead of husky fellows with radio tubes in their heads," he said.
I gather that a lot of spam comes from nets of hijacked random users, mostly Windows on DSL accounts, whose owners don't know they have been hijacked and are sending out boatloads of spam.
Imagine these people getting the rude surprise of a huge email tax bill, thousands of dollars...
Other than the govt gettig lots of irate calls, it is fun to think of the outrage directed at Microsoft for making the PCs so easily hijacked.
proving yet again that the day of the machines has not yet arrived.
Right, so I guess we are all communicating via smoke signals or pigeons, no machines involved... not even levers. Yep, no machines here, just us cavepersons...
Scientists have found a sub-atomic particle they cannot explain using current theories of energy and matter.
The Japanese team says understanding its existence may require a change to the Standard Model, the accepted theory of the way the Universe is constructed.
But X(3872) is peculiar in that it does not fit easily into any known particle scheme and, as a result, has attracted a considerable amount of attention from the world's physics community.
However, again, X(3872) does not match theoretical expectations for any conceivable quark-antiquark arrangement.
To explain it, theoretical physicists may have to modify their theory of the colour force; or make X(3872) the first example of a new type of meson, one that is made from four quarks (two quarks and two antiquarks).
A link to scan.co.uk would be extremely helpful, or at least a name.
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1. Saying that factories can cut as many corners as on site builders... how is that any more a specious attack than your initial assertion that onsite workers are terrible and factories are perfect? You need to look up the definition of specious.
2. I don't have to know builders now. I only have to investigate builders when I get ready to build, and find a single builder I can rely on, from friends' experiences and local reputations. Someone who has lived in thearea for a long time and been building reputable homes for a long time is a fine bet. They are not hard to find.
3. As for my design skills, they are non-existent as an architect, but I know what I want in general, and that is enough to guide an architect. I don't have to know everything, just enough.
4. Factories are better to work for who? I notice your background is finance. Whoopee. Let's ask factory workers themselves, let's ask outside workers. Plenty of outside workers wouldn't be caught dead inside on a good day. Perhaps you ought to get out of the factory once in a while and visit the real world. Where I live for instance, it doesn't rain during the building season, and plenty of people would rather be outside working than inside. Further, once the framing is up, most of the work is inside, within walls with a roof overhead, and lockable doors and windows. A little onsite factory, if you will. Factory walls also exist to keep workers inside in addition to keeping weather outside.
5. Very little of a house is boring drywall. Most of the people who work in the construction industry enjoy it and take pride in doing a quality job, because it is their individual part, not some factory of cookie cutter projects. It's called pride in craftsmanship. Perhaps you ought to ask some of them, or even try a little manual labor yourself before condemning all of them as soulless sourpusses.
6. Yes, greedy bastard factory owners like job safety, but greedy bastard onsite workers hate it. See if you can spot the difference. See if you can spot who has a silly rosy picture of his own industry and a lousy view of the competition. See if you can spot the unbalanced view.
7. My neighbors and friends who are contractors of course don't want to be in business next year or ten years from now. Yes, factory pencil pushers like yourself can go get a job in some other different kind of office at any time. Contractors who want to build up a reputation so they can keep on building homes have nothing but their name and reputation. So we can all guess who is more dedicated to doing a quality job.
It is not worth going on. What is obvious by now is that you are a pencil pusher who has way too rosy a picture of your own work environment and company, and a very distorted view of the competition. One of the secrets to winning is knowing the competition. You don't.
As if factory managers and workers and corporations never saved pennies in disgraceful ways. I myself will never buy a tract home because I don't want to live in a tract, but by gum I will get a stick built home to my own design by a builder I trust before I buy a prefab.
Such a rosy picture. My my, to listen to you, factories are little sections of heaven, populated by happy workers, singing at their jobs, with bosses to die for, managers who really Really REALLY care about customers and workers, and corporations with infinite funding to do everything right and never ever cut corners just to meet budgets. Oh your tool broke? Oh my, let's just shutdown with full pay until we get you a new one. Of course no factory worker ever walked off with a company tool or found a way to do something easier but out of spec. No boss ever pushed workers to meet a schedule.
Create an RCS subdir in the dir you want to version control.
For each file in that dir that you want to version control, use ci -i filename. It will ask for some kind of overall comment, an empty message is fine.
The file has been removed from the directory; use co -u to get a read only copy back.
The file is now read only. When you want to edit it, use co -l to check it out locked and writeable.
Edit the file with your favorite editor, or whatever else you want to do with it.
Use ci -u to check in this latest version and make it read only again.
Use man rcs to see details on how to undo versions, check out specific versions, etc.
Also use that same man command to double check these instructions.
Some editors have RCS and CVS version control built in, such as emacs. Probably others too. Maybe vim.
Maybe some naive people will believe it, but this is by no means the first time Microsoft has cried wolf. Each time it is shown to be false, they lose more credibility.
This will bring security to more people's attention, and they will notice in subsequent reports that Linux holes get patched quicker and are less serious to start with.
There is nothing to fear here, instead this is a good sign, and will end up being good PR for Linux, at Microsoft's expense.
If you are saying nudge, nudge wink, wink that Microsoft has programmers looking thru FLOSS source for vulnerabilities, well, it wouldn't stay secret for long. They would be overheard bragging to each other, or misdirect a memo or email, or have second thoughts.
In addition, if these Microsofties are as good and hard working as the propoganda mills claim, then good that someone is finding more bugs for us.
Plus, these Microsofties won't be doing anything evil for the evil empire, but instead doing good for the rebels. This is like the FBI undercover agents in peace marches, great!
I have worked with people who thought 80 hours a week made them better programmers, but from my perspective, they were so worn out that they got less done. Managers saw the long hours and were impressed by their dedication and loyalty, but all I saw was people spending hours on trivial problems because their brains were so fogged they were incapable of the five minutes of thought that would have pointed out a better solution.
I have no doubt all these Microsoft people thought they were hotshots, and thought all their coworkers were hotshots, but they define hotshot by long hours, and that only impresses clueless managers and other long hour hotshots.
When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like nails. Screwdrivers -- who needs 'em?
When the only capability you have is long hours of coding, every problem looks like a long slog of coding. Thinking and designing -- who needs it?
You are kidding yourself if you think building in a deadman pedal is all it takes to prevent this.
This thing will be controlled by computers. Those computers have to be able to accept new control programs. That feature is susceptible to misprogramming just like any other computer.
How about the idiot who misprogrammed the CD-R drives so that Mandrake made them doorstops?
How about Navy warships dead in the water because divde by zero wasn't allowed for?
How about satellites and space probes which have been reprogrammed in the most extraordinary manner to solve all sorts of mishaps on the way to Saturn and Jupiter?
To think for even one second that it is laughable how easy it is to keep terrorists from catching control of this process is beyond my comprehension.
And having said all that, I also say go for the system, the advantages far outweigh the slim chance of hijacking. We can't stop progress.
It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word.... and that's the one I had in mind.
Mark Twain had several quotes, none very close... this is the best I could find:
I never had any large respect for good spelling. That is my feeling yet. Before the spelling-book came with its arbitrary forms, men unconsciously revealed shades of their characters and also added enlightening shades of expression to what they wrote by their spelling, and so it is possible that the spelling-book has been a doubtful benevolence to us.
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Fucking baby killer
Considering your maturity is that of a baby, I guess I somehow missed you, eh?
I was a computer operator on a carrier long long ago. The computer room was two decks under the flight deck, right under the arresting gear ... pretty high up. My abandon ship station was to take a fire ax and whack the computer. I guess that old supply computer had too much vital technology. It wasn't the data in the computer, because it had no permanent storage, it was a tape operating system, and my job did not include whacking the tapes. So they were more concerned with the enemy capturing our carrier and recovering the computer technology than recovering the records of how much toilet paper we used. Must have been the water tight seals around the tape drive doors -- they claimed it could operate under water, tho how deep I never heard. And being so high up, 40 or so feet above the waterline ... if that had ever gotten under water, I wasn't planning on being the duty operator.
what our forbears were accustomed to just a generation or two ago.
Why you young whippersnapper I'll have you know I ain't your forbear and I *was* accustomed to this just a generation or two ago!
Economies progress by making jobs more efficient so resources are freed for new jobs. You can't make new products unless some old product goes away or becomes more efficiently made.
It's hard to figure out who gets retrained in what way and how much. No system could be perfect. That Wal-Mart makes companies more efficient is not to be denied. That some companies don't adapt and go out of business, well, their workers and capital go into other businesses eventually, and the economy gradually becomes more efficient. If there were no unemployment benefits, the economy would become more efficient faster, but more people would suffer. If unemployment benefits were too easy to get and keep, the economy would progress more slowly. The trick is figuring out the best compromise. No one can ever know where that line is, and it keeps moving.
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DEC was like Data General and every other mini-computer maker. They thought they had eliminated, or were eliminating, all rationale for mainframe computers. What they really had done was point out the path for computers cheap enough for small groups who couldn't afford big computers, and couldn't get any satisfaction from the corporate mainframe computer center. The PC was just an extension of this decentralization. But these minicomputer makers were too arrogant to understand that, and laughed at PCs as being useless. They didn't realize that just as small departments might want their own computers, so might individuals.
A bunch of watered down answers. Most of them dodged the real question and turned it into a marketing opportunity. Nothing solid here, no meat, hardly any potatoes. And the gravy was too watery to have any taste left.
Collateral damage happens regardless of the weapon. Which would you rather, have the hospital building collapse, break windows, send shrapnel all over, or have all the electronics die? Electronics are a lot easier to replace and workaround than collapsed buildings. A lot easier to come in and rescue survivors too.
The OS is largely irrelevant to speed tests which never swap or do I/O, like generating graphics. But servers show weaknesses in an OS like nothing else, since they really hammer context switches and I/O.
This IS significant. It shows the suits that Linux can handle swap intensive tasks, even tho they don't know that is what it shows.
Your anonimity says you don't have a sense of humor.
"However, there are some elements who have an almost religious zealousness about Linux," he [Darl McBride] added. "In some ways, that can be scary for anyone opposing their positions."
As if SCO's position isn't religious zealotry to the max!
Then there's sanity on the other side:
"I just don't buy it," said Bruce Perens, a Berkeley, Calif.-based Linux developer and open source advocate. " This is just an effort to discredit the open-source community.
"If there were real threats, the police would be there instead of husky fellows with radio tubes in their heads," he said.
I gather that a lot of spam comes from nets of hijacked random users, mostly Windows on DSL accounts, whose owners don't know they have been hijacked and are sending out boatloads of spam.
...
Imagine these people getting the rude surprise of a huge email tax bill, thousands of dollars
Other than the govt gettig lots of irate calls, it is fun to think of the outrage directed at Microsoft for making the PCs so easily hijacked.
proving yet again that the day of the machines has not yet arrived.
... not even levers. Yep, no machines here, just us cavepersons ...
Right, so I guess we are all communicating via smoke signals or pigeons, no machines involved
Scientists have found a sub-atomic particle they cannot explain using current theories of energy and matter.
The Japanese team says understanding its existence may require a change to the Standard Model, the accepted theory of the way the Universe is constructed.
But X(3872) is peculiar in that it does not fit easily into any known particle scheme and, as a result, has attracted a considerable amount of attention from the world's physics community.
However, again, X(3872) does not match theoretical expectations for any conceivable quark-antiquark arrangement.
To explain it, theoretical physicists may have to modify their theory of the colour force; or make X(3872) the first example of a new type of meson, one that is made from four quarks (two quarks and two antiquarks).
A link to scan.co.uk would be extremely helpful, or at least a name.
1. Saying that factories can cut as many corners as on site builders ... how is that any more a specious attack than your initial assertion that onsite workers are terrible and factories are perfect? You need to look up the definition of specious.
2. I don't have to know builders now. I only have to investigate builders when I get ready to build, and find a single builder I can rely on, from friends' experiences and local reputations. Someone who has lived in thearea for a long time and been building reputable homes for a long time is a fine bet. They are not hard to find.
3. As for my design skills, they are non-existent as an architect, but I know what I want in general, and that is enough to guide an architect. I don't have to know everything, just enough.
4. Factories are better to work for who? I notice your background is finance. Whoopee. Let's ask factory workers themselves, let's ask outside workers. Plenty of outside workers wouldn't be caught dead inside on a good day. Perhaps you ought to get out of the factory once in a while and visit the real world. Where I live for instance, it doesn't rain during the building season, and plenty of people would rather be outside working than inside. Further, once the framing is up, most of the work is inside, within walls with a roof overhead, and lockable doors and windows. A little onsite factory, if you will. Factory walls also exist to keep workers inside in addition to keeping weather outside.
5. Very little of a house is boring drywall. Most of the people who work in the construction industry enjoy it and take pride in doing a quality job, because it is their individual part, not some factory of cookie cutter projects. It's called pride in craftsmanship. Perhaps you ought to ask some of them, or even try a little manual labor yourself before condemning all of them as soulless sourpusses.
6. Yes, greedy bastard factory owners like job safety, but greedy bastard onsite workers hate it. See if you can spot the difference. See if you can spot who has a silly rosy picture of his own industry and a lousy view of the competition. See if you can spot the unbalanced view.
7. My neighbors and friends who are contractors of course don't want to be in business next year or ten years from now. Yes, factory pencil pushers like yourself can go get a job in some other different kind of office at any time. Contractors who want to build up a reputation so they can keep on building homes have nothing but their name and reputation. So we can all guess who is more dedicated to doing a quality job.
It is not worth going on. What is obvious by now is that you are a pencil pusher who has way too rosy a picture of your own work environment and company, and a very distorted view of the competition. One of the secrets to winning is knowing the competition. You don't.
As if factory managers and workers and corporations never saved pennies in disgraceful ways. I myself will never buy a tract home because I don't want to live in a tract, but by gum I will get a stick built home to my own design by a builder I trust before I buy a prefab.
Such a rosy picture. My my, to listen to you, factories are little sections of heaven, populated by happy workers, singing at their jobs, with bosses to die for, managers who really Really REALLY care about customers and workers, and corporations with infinite funding to do everything right and never ever cut corners just to meet budgets. Oh your tool broke? Oh my, let's just shutdown with full pay until we get you a new one. Of course no factory worker ever walked off with a company tool or found a way to do something easier but out of spec. No boss ever pushed workers to meet a schedule.
Use man rcs to see details on how to undo versions, check out specific versions, etc.
Also use that same man command to double check these instructions.
Some editors have RCS and CVS version control built in, such as emacs. Probably others too. Maybe vim.
I put RCS subdirs all over, check files in and out.
It also makes complete OS upgrades easier, I use the RCS subdirs to tell what I changed from the base install.
And moderated 50% Redundant!
Now is this a great time to live or what?!?
Maybe some naive people will believe it, but this is by no means the first time Microsoft has cried wolf. Each time it is shown to be false, they lose more credibility.
This will bring security to more people's attention, and they will notice in subsequent reports that Linux holes get patched quicker and are less serious to start with.
There is nothing to fear here, instead this is a good sign, and will end up being good PR for Linux, at Microsoft's expense.
So can I. But two people can't.
If you are saying nudge, nudge wink, wink that Microsoft has programmers looking thru FLOSS source for vulnerabilities, well, it wouldn't stay secret for long. They would be overheard bragging to each other, or misdirect a memo or email, or have second thoughts.
In addition, if these Microsofties are as good and hard working as the propoganda mills claim, then good that someone is finding more bugs for us.
Plus, these Microsofties won't be doing anything evil for the evil empire, but instead doing good for the rebels. This is like the FBI undercover agents in peace marches, great!
I have worked with people who thought 80 hours a week made them better programmers, but from my perspective, they were so worn out that they got less done. Managers saw the long hours and were impressed by their dedication and loyalty, but all I saw was people spending hours on trivial problems because their brains were so fogged they were incapable of the five minutes of thought that would have pointed out a better solution.
I have no doubt all these Microsoft people thought they were hotshots, and thought all their coworkers were hotshots, but they define hotshot by long hours, and that only impresses clueless managers and other long hour hotshots.
When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like nails. Screwdrivers -- who needs 'em?
When the only capability you have is long hours of coding, every problem looks like a long slog of coding. Thinking and designing -- who needs it?
You are kidding yourself if you think building in a deadman pedal is all it takes to prevent this.
This thing will be controlled by computers. Those computers have to be able to accept new control programs. That feature is susceptible to misprogramming just like any other computer.
How about the idiot who misprogrammed the CD-R drives so that Mandrake made them doorstops?
How about Navy warships dead in the water because divde by zero wasn't allowed for?
How about satellites and space probes which have been reprogrammed in the most extraordinary manner to solve all sorts of mishaps on the way to Saturn and Jupiter?
To think for even one second that it is laughable how easy it is to keep terrorists from catching control of this process is beyond my comprehension.
And having said all that, I also say go for the system, the advantages far outweigh the slim chance of hijacking. We can't stop progress.
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
So, ha, we are both mostly right!
It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word. ... and that's the one I had in mind.
... this is the best I could find:
Mark Twain had several quotes, none very close
I never had any large respect for good spelling. That is my feeling yet. Before the spelling-book came with its arbitrary forms, men unconsciously revealed shades of their characters and also added enlightening shades of expression to what they wrote by their spelling, and so it is possible that the spelling-book has been a doubtful benevolence to us.