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He neither said that nor implied it. What he said was that any criticism of AGW is met with a defense akin to a religious fervor. This is a true statement.
As demonstrated.
No. Scientific criticism of AGW is fine. But coming up with inane conspiracies, casting aspersions, or character assassinations are NOT valid forms of scientific criticism. Worse, the people often spouting such nonsense have little if any knowledge of the actual science and DON'T WANT TO KNOW IT.
Don't equate denialisim with legitimate skepticism. There are legitimate skeptics, but they aren't the ones claiming that the entire world's population of climate scientists is on a mission to murder Jesus and create a socialist utopia. Deniers make the real skeptics look bad, and actually serve to drown out real scientific skepticism with their idiocy.
Why did you write a wall of text? Here's a brief summary: Poor people deserve to die.
That's really what you want, isn't it? The haves can have health care, the have-nots can die in a gutter someplace. And this will be better for everyone.
Unfortunately for you, other more socially advanced nations have provided strong counter-examples to your Rynd-esque sociopathic utopia.
Limiting government and being fiscally responsible are not extreme notions and most sane individuals support these ideals. What the Tea party gets insulted for is their insane black-and-white, near sociopathic approach to these ideals. This ranges from burn it all down and start over to blindly cutting huge swaths of programs with little concern for the consequences.
Or maybe that's just the loudest extreme arm of the group. Maybe the real Tea Partiers aren't like those elected to congress, where they vilify the poor and make some of the most idiotic statements I've ever heard uttered from politicians. Maybe we're all just getting a really bad impression because that is what the media wants us to see. The media shows us a bunch of uneducated white bigots with a banner "Tea Party" underneath it, and the real Tea Partiers just shake their heads and weep over how their good honest movement has been usurped by a bunch of neo-fascist, anti-science douchebags.
If that's the case, then the Tea Partiers need to make a solid effort to get these nutbags that claim to represent them out of office and get some real people in there. They are making you guys look bad.
We should also get rid of unions, child labor laws, and any other general protections for the poor and disadvantage because, well fuck the poor.
Leave it to the states huh? What about the poor states? You know, most of the red states in this country who take in more government dollars than they give? You really think slashing the fed and putting it all back on the states will lead to prosperity and stability? Well, it won't. You'd be taking a problem we have at the personal level (wealth disparity) and now moving it up to the state level. That's not going to work. What are states like Mississippi going to do? How can a state provide a safety net for it's people when there's a huge swath of poor people?
Think critically. Follow through the consequences of what you are proposing. Idealistic nonsense is not the solution. You can't even begin to consider cutting social programs without first addressing the wealth disparity, both at the personal and state level.
That's bullshit. One of the most prosperous and productive times in US history was post WW2, where effective tax rates were MUCH higher.
Take a long look at the wealth breakdown in this country. This is after decades of tax cuts. How much longer do we need to run this failed "trickle on me" economics experiment before we can all agree that IT DOESN'T WORK.
Well that goes hand in hand with what I think is the hardest: being able to think like a complete fucking idiot. I'm convinced that if I could think like the most idiotic end users/managers/marketers of my software, I would be able to create near invincible code that would work exactly as they want, ahead of time and under budget.:)
By your reasoning, there's no such thing as psychological torture or injury, and that physical injuries are the only things that ever really affect you. You want a counter example? Go talk to someone who has PTSD, or go talk to someone who was abused as a child. The psychological injuries last for a long time.
There's teasing, then there is bullying. It's obvious you that you don't know the difference. Teasing is occasional or situational. Everyone gets teased about something at some point. So and so has a big nose. So and so has silly glasses. But that isn't bullying.
Bullying is persistent and relentless physical and/or psychological harm over extended periods of time. Bullying is more like being tortured on a daily basis. Getting beat up everyday. Everyone telling you aren't worth shit. Getting pushed down or tripped every time you walk down a hallway. Someone stealing your pants after gym, or pissing/shitting on them. Having kids hold you down while they write "I'm a loser" on your forehead in permanent marker. All this while knowing if you tell anyone it will only get worse.
That's more like bullying. And that will affect you, regardless of how psychologically tough you think you are. The physical harm? Shit, that's nothing. That heals quickly. The psychological harm? That lasts for years to decades.
It has nothing to do with being thin skinned. If every day there is a group of your peers essentially stalking you making threats and/or denigrating you, it affects you both physically and mentally. This is well documented, and cursory search reveals many studies on the subject. In fact, your attitude expressed in your post is usually one of the side effects of being bullied when younger (lack of empathy/sociopathy).
Covering your home in solar panels in Arizona can save you about $100/mo on your power bill, which for a single-family-residence runs about $200 in the winter and about $400 in the summer.
Those panels aren't free. They can take 10+ years to pay for themselves.
You're wrong. A 9 kw system (which fits on the average roof in Arizona) produces enough power to cover the average home's electricity usage for the year. The break even point is 10 years.
Too bad we can't get fusion energy from morons instead, we would have unlimited energy...
Scientists have tried moron-moron fusion, but it simply takes more energy to fuse two morons than the reaction produces. Worse, moron fusion by-products are inherently unstable and result in dangerous moronic radiation. There is no known shielding that can prevent moronic radiation from escaping into the environment. At best, you can only hope to slow it down. But eventually, it finds a way to break out of even the most solid, fool-proof containment.
If your unfamiliar with what moronic radiation is capable of, there are some well-known cases. These days though we have better equipment and facilities to ascertain and study this form of radiation. In fact, there is an ongoing experiment at the Washington, D.C's Large Moron Collider inside the Capitol Building Research Facility. There they often collide long lived moronic particles called Senators and short lived moronic particles called Representatives, producing all kinds of particles ranging from the softer ignorance particles to the elusive yet massive stupid particles.
The unique rotunda design of the top shield was supposed to contain reactions and radiation from the moronic collisions. Unfortunately it seems that despite their best efforts moronic radiation still escapes into the environment.
Some scientists have apparently found a way to at least channel and control the radiation. The research group at the Fox Institute of Truth, for example, has found that they can channel the moronic radiation from the LMC by converting it into electromagnetic radiation in the television spectrum where it harmlessly dissipates into the environment.
However, new research indicates moronic radiation is not so easily defeated. A growing body of research shows that even though you convert moronic radiation into another form, it still retains it's dangerous properties. This hints at deeper mysteries behind the nature of moronic energy.
Most jobs don't involve a lot of math or english these days.
Life does. That's one of the problems. Without math you're going to have a hard time balancing personal budgets or coming up with a decent savings plan. Not everyone can afford a personal accountant to do this for them.
More whether or not you can socially function and whether you know the basics of using a computer. Plumbing, paving roads, being a cashier, managing people, checking meter readings, working an assembly line don't involve much math or English. Perhaps society only needs a few people per hundred that are great at math? People don't need math skills to drive a semi-truck or make the donuts or take an order or stock a warehouse.... Similar to how most companies only need a few elite coders?
These tests were testing BASIC skills, not advanced calculus. And in testing these BASIC skills Americans lagged behind. This shows that they lack the critical thinking and reasoning abilities to be able to differentiate what is fact and what is bullshit, like when people think payday loans are a good idea or when they believe republicans when they say a national default wouldn't be bad.
How can you expect to have a well functioning democracy when your population isn't well educated? The answer is, you can't. You get what we have today.
...We need to redesign residential areas where the Rich and the Poor live together and we have an infrastructure to allow people to work.
Considering how most rich seem to consider the poor to be some sort of plague carriers that should be burned and buried in mass graves, I don't see this coming to fruition any time soon.
It's a law. Like any other law, if a group doesn't like it, they should try to get it hanged or repealed. In this case, the Republicans, after having passed the law, tried to get it repealed 42 times, including a jaunt into the Supreme Court.
Since they failed in every conceivable fashion to get the law repealed through the normal channels, they decided to take the budget hostage. While procedurally they aren't breaking any rules, this is an incredibly dickish move.
At least the public seems to be aware of why this is happening. And the republicans have now granted the democrats use of this new tool. Hoisted by their own petard.
Defense spending needs to be reduced, but this bullshit isn't the way to do it. If anything these shenanigans are going to end up costing the American taxpayer more.
Both sides won't compromise so its both party's fault.
I keep seeing this and it's bullshit. The house won't allow a vote on the senate budget bill because the neo-fascist Tea-Party won't allow the vote to take place with ACA funding in the bill. They're holding the budget hostage because they have failed on numerous other occasions to get ACA repealed using legitimate legislative channels. So now they're resorting to sleazy tactics like this one (and now that they've done it, how much do you want to bet we will see more of this?).
The senate has ALREADY APPROVED the budget. And if they could get a vote in the house it would already have been approved there as well. But these Tea Party jackasses won't allow to come to a vote. Now a number of republicans are trying to distance themselves from these yahoos because they know the American public is more than fed up with this crap.
Basically, the government can force you to do anything it wants, and there's nothing you can do about it. Strange, I remember hearing about some document that spelled out certain limitations on the governments powers, and certain rights that people had, but I must have misremembered.
I also seem to recall that there was an evil country that did not have that kind of document, and they were our enemies for a long time.
I didn't realize these people were just trying to conduct scientific measurements. Next time I won't call emergency services and disrupt their important work. Thanks for the tip!:)
Maybe instead of shutting down commentary, they should have implemented the kind of half-decent moderation system that the only usable comment sites have adopted.
That would only work if the moderators themselves had an understanding of the science so they could filter out Uncle Crazy and the Tin Foil Hat Brigade. Take Slashdot for example. Whenever there is a story about AGW/Climate Change, we get a virtual barrage of idiocy from people who clearly have absolutely no understanding of the basic physics and math (let alone anything more complex) claiming that the past 200 years of physics and chemistry have everything completely wrong. And sadly, a number of these idiots get modded +5 insightful for yet another rendition of some bullshit global conspiracy theory.
In order for moderation to work, it would require something like what RealClimate does; have actual scientists or at least people well versed enough in the science to keep out the derps and the trolls.
No you're just being a tree-hugging hippy literal. If it wasn't for all these literal activists our government wouldn't be shut down. Screw you and you literal agenda.
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Just what we need. One-click insurance from Amazon. :P
There's a radio in my fingernail!
He neither said that nor implied it. What he said was that any criticism of AGW is met with a defense akin to a religious fervor. This is a true statement.
As demonstrated.
No. Scientific criticism of AGW is fine. But coming up with inane conspiracies, casting aspersions, or character assassinations are NOT valid forms of scientific criticism. Worse, the people often spouting such nonsense have little if any knowledge of the actual science and DON'T WANT TO KNOW IT.
Don't equate denialisim with legitimate skepticism. There are legitimate skeptics, but they aren't the ones claiming that the entire world's population of climate scientists is on a mission to murder Jesus and create a socialist utopia. Deniers make the real skeptics look bad, and actually serve to drown out real scientific skepticism with their idiocy.
Why did you write a wall of text? Here's a brief summary: Poor people deserve to die.
That's really what you want, isn't it? The haves can have health care, the have-nots can die in a gutter someplace. And this will be better for everyone.
Unfortunately for you, other more socially advanced nations have provided strong counter-examples to your Rynd-esque sociopathic utopia.
Limiting government and being fiscally responsible are not extreme notions and most sane individuals support these ideals. What the Tea party gets insulted for is their insane black-and-white, near sociopathic approach to these ideals. This ranges from burn it all down and start over to blindly cutting huge swaths of programs with little concern for the consequences.
Or maybe that's just the loudest extreme arm of the group. Maybe the real Tea Partiers aren't like those elected to congress, where they vilify the poor and make some of the most idiotic statements I've ever heard uttered from politicians. Maybe we're all just getting a really bad impression because that is what the media wants us to see. The media shows us a bunch of uneducated white bigots with a banner "Tea Party" underneath it, and the real Tea Partiers just shake their heads and weep over how their good honest movement has been usurped by a bunch of neo-fascist, anti-science douchebags.
If that's the case, then the Tea Partiers need to make a solid effort to get these nutbags that claim to represent them out of office and get some real people in there. They are making you guys look bad.
We should also get rid of unions, child labor laws, and any other general protections for the poor and disadvantage because, well fuck the poor.
Leave it to the states huh? What about the poor states? You know, most of the red states in this country who take in more government dollars than they give? You really think slashing the fed and putting it all back on the states will lead to prosperity and stability? Well, it won't. You'd be taking a problem we have at the personal level (wealth disparity) and now moving it up to the state level. That's not going to work. What are states like Mississippi going to do? How can a state provide a safety net for it's people when there's a huge swath of poor people?
Think critically. Follow through the consequences of what you are proposing. Idealistic nonsense is not the solution. You can't even begin to consider cutting social programs without first addressing the wealth disparity, both at the personal and state level.
That's bullshit. One of the most prosperous and productive times in US history was post WW2, where effective tax rates were MUCH higher.
Take a long look at the wealth breakdown in this country. This is after decades of tax cuts. How much longer do we need to run this failed "trickle on me" economics experiment before we can all agree that IT DOESN'T WORK.
Well that goes hand in hand with what I think is the hardest: being able to think like a complete fucking idiot. I'm convinced that if I could think like the most idiotic end users/managers/marketers of my software, I would be able to create near invincible code that would work exactly as they want, ahead of time and under budget. :)
What a great idea. I also heard that you can cure the flu by driving a stake through your heart.
Sticking to your ideals while simultaneously throwing a country into chaos isn't smart, principled, or noble. It's fucking childish and stupid.
"THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!"
By your reasoning, there's no such thing as psychological torture or injury, and that physical injuries are the only things that ever really affect you. You want a counter example? Go talk to someone who has PTSD, or go talk to someone who was abused as a child. The psychological injuries last for a long time.
There's teasing, then there is bullying. It's obvious you that you don't know the difference. Teasing is occasional or situational. Everyone gets teased about something at some point. So and so has a big nose. So and so has silly glasses. But that isn't bullying.
Bullying is persistent and relentless physical and/or psychological harm over extended periods of time. Bullying is more like being tortured on a daily basis. Getting beat up everyday. Everyone telling you aren't worth shit. Getting pushed down or tripped every time you walk down a hallway. Someone stealing your pants after gym, or pissing/shitting on them. Having kids hold you down while they write "I'm a loser" on your forehead in permanent marker. All this while knowing if you tell anyone it will only get worse.
That's more like bullying. And that will affect you, regardless of how psychologically tough you think you are. The physical harm? Shit, that's nothing. That heals quickly. The psychological harm? That lasts for years to decades.
It has nothing to do with being thin skinned. If every day there is a group of your peers essentially stalking you making threats and/or denigrating you, it affects you both physically and mentally. This is well documented, and cursory search reveals many studies on the subject. In fact, your attitude expressed in your post is usually one of the side effects of being bullied when younger (lack of empathy/sociopathy).
Then I guess Jupiter was the result of the wild bachelor party before he put the ring on Saturn.
Covering your home in solar panels in Arizona can save you about $100/mo on your power bill, which for a single-family-residence runs about $200 in the winter and about $400 in the summer.
Those panels aren't free. They can take 10+ years to pay for themselves.
You're wrong. A 9 kw system (which fits on the average roof in Arizona) produces enough power to cover the average home's electricity usage for the year. The break even point is 10 years.
[citations]
http://www.eia.gov/consumption/residential/reports/2009/state_briefs/pdf/az.pdf (Information about average power usage in Arizona)
http://www.solar-estimate.org/ (solar system calculator for sizing systems, panel and installation costs, break-even points, etc.)
Too bad we can't get fusion energy from morons instead, we would have unlimited energy...
Scientists have tried moron-moron fusion, but it simply takes more energy to fuse two morons than the reaction produces. Worse, moron fusion by-products are inherently unstable and result in dangerous moronic radiation. There is no known shielding that can prevent moronic radiation from escaping into the environment. At best, you can only hope to slow it down. But eventually, it finds a way to break out of even the most solid, fool-proof containment.
If your unfamiliar with what moronic radiation is capable of, there are some well-known cases. These days though we have better equipment and facilities to ascertain and study this form of radiation. In fact, there is an ongoing experiment at the Washington, D.C's Large Moron Collider inside the Capitol Building Research Facility. There they often collide long lived moronic particles called Senators and short lived moronic particles called Representatives, producing all kinds of particles ranging from the softer ignorance particles to the elusive yet massive stupid particles.
The unique rotunda design of the top shield was supposed to contain reactions and radiation from the moronic collisions. Unfortunately it seems that despite their best efforts moronic radiation still escapes into the environment.
Some scientists have apparently found a way to at least channel and control the radiation. The research group at the Fox Institute of Truth, for example, has found that they can channel the moronic radiation from the LMC by converting it into electromagnetic radiation in the television spectrum where it harmlessly dissipates into the environment.
However, new research indicates moronic radiation is not so easily defeated. A growing body of research shows that even though you convert moronic radiation into another form, it still retains it's dangerous properties. This hints at deeper mysteries behind the nature of moronic energy.
Most jobs don't involve a lot of math or english these days.
Life does. That's one of the problems. Without math you're going to have a hard time balancing personal budgets or coming up with a decent savings plan. Not everyone can afford a personal accountant to do this for them.
More whether or not you can socially function and whether you know the basics of using a computer. .... Similar to how most companies only need a few elite coders?
Plumbing, paving roads, being a cashier, managing people, checking meter readings, working an assembly line don't involve much math or English. Perhaps society only needs a few people per hundred that are great at math? People don't need math skills to drive a semi-truck or make the donuts or take an order or stock a warehouse
These tests were testing BASIC skills, not advanced calculus. And in testing these BASIC skills Americans lagged behind. This shows that they lack the critical thinking and reasoning abilities to be able to differentiate what is fact and what is bullshit, like when people think payday loans are a good idea or when they believe republicans when they say a national default wouldn't be bad.
How can you expect to have a well functioning democracy when your population isn't well educated? The answer is, you can't. You get what we have today.
...We need to redesign residential areas where the Rich and the Poor live together and we have an infrastructure to allow people to work.
Considering how most rich seem to consider the poor to be some sort of plague carriers that should be burned and buried in mass graves, I don't see this coming to fruition any time soon.
They outsourced their nuclear engineering to Chernobyl.
Seriously, why don't you survey the current research into AI before disparaging their research and making bold claims with no evidence?
It's not both.
It's a law. Like any other law, if a group doesn't like it, they should try to get it hanged or repealed. In this case, the Republicans, after having passed the law, tried to get it repealed 42 times, including a jaunt into the Supreme Court.
Since they failed in every conceivable fashion to get the law repealed through the normal channels, they decided to take the budget hostage. While procedurally they aren't breaking any rules, this is an incredibly dickish move.
At least the public seems to be aware of why this is happening. And the republicans have now granted the democrats use of this new tool. Hoisted by their own petard.
Defense spending needs to be reduced, but this bullshit isn't the way to do it. If anything these shenanigans are going to end up costing the American taxpayer more.
Your (dipshit) Congress in action.
This congress makes dictatorships look good.
Both sides won't compromise so its both party's fault.
I keep seeing this and it's bullshit. The house won't allow a vote on the senate budget bill because the neo-fascist Tea-Party won't allow the vote to take place with ACA funding in the bill. They're holding the budget hostage because they have failed on numerous other occasions to get ACA repealed using legitimate legislative channels. So now they're resorting to sleazy tactics like this one (and now that they've done it, how much do you want to bet we will see more of this?).
The senate has ALREADY APPROVED the budget. And if they could get a vote in the house it would already have been approved there as well. But these Tea Party jackasses won't allow to come to a vote. Now a number of republicans are trying to distance themselves from these yahoos because they know the American public is more than fed up with this crap.
Basically, the government can force you to do anything it wants, and there's nothing you can do about it. Strange, I remember hearing about some document that spelled out certain limitations on the governments powers, and certain rights that people had, but I must have misremembered.
I also seem to recall that there was an evil country that did not have that kind of document, and they were our enemies for a long time.
So the SI unit of distance when being attacked by giant hornets is the FUCK? I thought people were just calling for help.
"Ouch! Fuck fuck fuck! They're still chasing me!?! Fuck fuck fuck!"
I didn't realize these people were just trying to conduct scientific measurements. Next time I won't call emergency services and disrupt their important work. Thanks for the tip! :)
Don Quixote post viciously attacking your strawman.
Maybe instead of shutting down commentary, they should have implemented the kind of half-decent moderation system that the only usable comment sites have adopted.
That would only work if the moderators themselves had an understanding of the science so they could filter out Uncle Crazy and the Tin Foil Hat Brigade. Take Slashdot for example. Whenever there is a story about AGW/Climate Change, we get a virtual barrage of idiocy from people who clearly have absolutely no understanding of the basic physics and math (let alone anything more complex) claiming that the past 200 years of physics and chemistry have everything completely wrong. And sadly, a number of these idiots get modded +5 insightful for yet another rendition of some bullshit global conspiracy theory.
In order for moderation to work, it would require something like what RealClimate does; have actual scientists or at least people well versed enough in the science to keep out the derps and the trolls.
No you're just being a tree-hugging hippy literal. If it wasn't for all these literal activists our government wouldn't be shut down. Screw you and you literal agenda.