Hey, if I write an email, I own the copyright, correct?
The encryption is a method I use to keep others from reading said copyrited work, correct?
This means that removing the encryption is in effect, circumventing a copywrite protection, and illegal under the DMCA.
No it isn't, because they encrypt it, not you. STARTTLS is encryption implemented by the provider. The message is only encrypted during passage from your mail program to their server, and from their server to another STARTTLS server, but that's it. The end receiver gets the message unencrypted in his or her mail program. It can be worse. If the provider from the receiver does not use STARTTLS, the message is not delivered encrypted.
And good luck getting Grandma and cousin Alex to use it.
Getting grandma en mom to use it won't be too difficult, if it only is a matter of configuration. We do that already, so if we can set it up to be secure without adding complex user actions, they will use it because we handle their computer setup and we decide how we do that. I hope they can find a way to get email work like that.
BTSync uses a string to connect computers and then sync files. How safe is that? I could start a script that tries to find these strings. If I find them, I can sync all files just like that. While that string is probably more unique than a username / password combination used on Dropbox, I guess Dropbox will see it when there are many failed tries on one username, or many failed tries from one IP. If your just guessing username and password, you can of course change usernames continuously, to avoid testing the same username over and over again. But with BTSync you can go on and on. Is there a security measure against abuse? I've used it, with longer than standard strings, but still don't like this idea.
Why is custom hardware needed? Im just curious. There seem to be plenty of cheap ($100) SOC boards out there with ethernet ports. You only need one to route. Not sure what sort of hardware performance requirements the encryption and tunneling software would require, but surely one can be built for much less than $7500. Even a desktop with a bunch of 4x1GB port PCIe cards wouldn't cost a grand... its a desktop I know, but still....
How about the Alix APU1D4 combined with Pfsense and encrypted harddisk.
if the benchmark for what is legal is your own preference, you are a parasite on society to that same degree.
I'm curious - does that apply to marijuana users? If so, how was illegal marijuana use fundamentally different than this?
Good point! In fact you prove exactly the opposite of what you want. Marijuana sale is somehow legalized in the Netherlands. OK, it's a bad law, as it legalizes only selling to customers. The production is still illegal, selling to the shops is illegal, so this is really stupid. But from the customer side it is legal. That's what makes it good.
Uber is not legal, because it is not good for the customer. It may be cheap, and as long as all is good and well I guess everyone is happy. But then there is an accident and the driver is not insured. What then? Who will pay? The Dutch state probably, so the tax payer. We don't want that.
TCA and taxi drivers in Amsterdam may have a bad reputation, but for the rest of the Netherlands this is not the case. Most taxis are really OK, in good state, and drivers are OK as well. I've used many taxis - not in Amsterdam though - and all were OK.
I remember running Amiga Workbench on a 7mhz motorola, that only had 1meg ram and did not have a HD, but the OS only took up under 1meg.
I remember running CP/M on a Intertec Superbrain with a 4Mhz Z80, that only had 64KB and two 180KB floppies. The OS plus a complete Office suite fitted on one of those floppies...
I do not know about the supper low end phones that Nokiasoft are making but I did get the 635 as temp phone while I am waiting for the new Nexus. Guess what? For $129 off contract it is a very good phone.
I guess it is.
Take this simple math: $129/$35=3.6
Now compare that $35 phone to an $600 iPhone because that's the relative price if you have a 20 times lower salary. Then think about this: will you buy a 3.6x$600 = $2200 phone? I would not. So that $35 dollar phone is what they can pay. That extra $100 is for food, clothes and living in general.
we never really talk about that so it doesn't count.
The thing we should be talking about is how and why politicians worldwide are running a fear campaign, with the central message that loss of freedom is a necessary path to security.
Only one reason: because the people want it. Fear is an easy emotion.
As a territorial police force of sworn constables, are they responsible for proposing laws? Because that's what they're doing here.
Responsible for proposing laws? They are free to do so - whether you like it or not. Join a political party or some lobby group, whether it's "bad" corporate lobbying, or "good" NGO stuff, you can even start something yourself - and you can be part of the fun as well.
Exploration of space and the solar system is mostly for fun. It's interesting to see what other places look like, but it's unlikely that it is going to affect us a species. Earth observing satellites will have a greater impact on that.
In your lifetime probably yes. When the first trains started to move in the early 1800s, you could probably say the same.
Could it be they succeeded in part because much of the previous experience?
Either way, great job doing it on their first attempt and cheapest.
You should reverse the question: Will NASA be able to build on this "previous" experience? Would they be able to send a rocket to Mars for $75m, in end of 2015?
However this really should be part of the RFC, or else anyone banning mixed names would be "non compliant". If the RCF does not specify this then the best that gmail (or any other system could do) would be to prevent people registering mixed names themselves and giving a warning (and maybe colour characters) if email is recieived from an address with mixed scripts.
Gmail, Microsoft and Yahoo and others like gmx, universities, big companies should simply refuse these mails. Microsoft should make Exchange so that this is the default way for handling these mails. The same goes for qmail, postfix etc. But that won't be enough.
As another commenter said, you can make up latin looking names using cyrillic characters, and we won't notice. How do you catch that? I guess this will the the time that PGP will prove it's value.
Worse; they will come from root@gmail.com, administrator@gmail.com or BillGates@gmail.com, only those o's and a's will be Cyrillic or something like that (can't do it here; Slashdot doesn't display them).
When you mix Latin htmail with a Cyrillic o to get hotmail, Google and all email programs should refuse that address immediately, mark it as spam, make the address red with a warning sign etc. Mixing character sets should not be allowed in a domain or in a username. So the username may be all Cyrillic or Greek, the domain name may be all Chinese or Latin, and these may mix, but no mixes in the domain name or username itself.
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Hey, if I write an email, I own the copyright, correct?
The encryption is a method I use to keep others from reading said copyrited work, correct?
This means that removing the encryption is in effect, circumventing a copywrite protection, and illegal under the DMCA.
No it isn't, because they encrypt it, not you. STARTTLS is encryption implemented by the provider. The message is only encrypted during passage from your mail program to their server, and from their server to another STARTTLS server, but that's it. The end receiver gets the message unencrypted in his or her mail program. It can be worse. If the provider from the receiver does not use STARTTLS, the message is not delivered encrypted.
Another way to put it: When the solution is too complex, we solved the wrong problem.
Unless the data is so heavy, that they warp space.
HEAVY! Space warps!
And good luck getting Grandma and cousin Alex to use it.
Getting grandma en mom to use it won't be too difficult, if it only is a matter of configuration. We do that already, so if we can set it up to be secure without adding complex user actions, they will use it because we handle their computer setup and we decide how we do that. I hope they can find a way to get email work like that.
Regardless of your US centric view, it is interesting to see what is possible. It reminds me of the days of the ZX80 and the 1KB program challenges.
Depends what state you are in.
So what if you are in a state of arousal?
BTSync uses a string to connect computers and then sync files. How safe is that? I could start a script that tries to find these strings. If I find them, I can sync all files just like that. While that string is probably more unique than a username / password combination used on Dropbox, I guess Dropbox will see it when there are many failed tries on one username, or many failed tries from one IP. If your just guessing username and password, you can of course change usernames continuously, to avoid testing the same username over and over again. But with BTSync you can go on and on. Is there a security measure against abuse? I've used it, with longer than standard strings, but still don't like this idea.
Why is custom hardware needed? Im just curious. There seem to be plenty of cheap ($100) SOC boards out there with ethernet ports. You only need one to route. Not sure what sort of hardware performance requirements the encryption and tunneling software would require, but surely one can be built for much less than $7500. Even a desktop with a bunch of 4x1GB port PCIe cards wouldn't cost a grand... its a desktop I know, but still....
How about the Alix APU1D4 combined with Pfsense and encrypted harddisk.
I'm curious - does that apply to marijuana users? If so, how was illegal marijuana use fundamentally different than this?
Good point! In fact you prove exactly the opposite of what you want. Marijuana sale is somehow legalized in the Netherlands. OK, it's a bad law, as it legalizes only selling to customers. The production is still illegal, selling to the shops is illegal, so this is really stupid. But from the customer side it is legal. That's what makes it good.
Uber is not legal, because it is not good for the customer. It may be cheap, and as long as all is good and well I guess everyone is happy. But then there is an accident and the driver is not insured. What then? Who will pay? The Dutch state probably, so the tax payer. We don't want that.
TCA and taxi drivers in Amsterdam may have a bad reputation, but for the rest of the Netherlands this is not the case. Most taxis are really OK, in good state, and drivers are OK as well. I've used many taxis - not in Amsterdam though - and all were OK.
I remember running Amiga Workbench on a 7mhz motorola, that only had 1meg ram and did not have a HD, but the OS only took up under 1meg.
I remember running CP/M on a Intertec Superbrain with a 4Mhz Z80, that only had 64KB and two 180KB floppies. The OS plus a complete Office suite fitted on one of those floppies...
I do not know about the supper low end phones that Nokiasoft are making but I did get the 635 as temp phone while I am waiting for the new Nexus.
Guess what? For $129 off contract it is a very good phone.
I guess it is.
Take this simple math: $129/$35=3.6
Now compare that $35 phone to an $600 iPhone because that's the relative price if you have a 20 times lower salary. Then think about this: will you buy a 3.6x$600 = $2200 phone? I would not. So that $35 dollar phone is what they can pay. That extra $100 is for food, clothes and living in general.
we never really talk about that so it doesn't count.
The thing we should be talking about is how and why politicians worldwide are running a fear campaign, with the central message that loss of freedom is a necessary path to security.
Only one reason: because the people want it. Fear is an easy emotion.
As a territorial police force of sworn constables, are they responsible for proposing laws?
Because that's what they're doing here.
Responsible for proposing laws? They are free to do so - whether you like it or not. Join a political party or some lobby group, whether it's "bad" corporate lobbying, or "good" NGO stuff, you can even start something yourself - and you can be part of the fun as well.
Because they outsource to themselves at 1/3 the cost of Americans.
So even thát they do better!
Exploration of space and the solar system is mostly for fun. It's interesting to see what other places look like, but it's unlikely that it is going to affect us a species. Earth observing satellites will have a greater impact on that.
In your lifetime probably yes. When the first trains started to move in the early 1800s, you could probably say the same.
It may be more about the price tag than anything else.
Ezekiel 23:20
What version of the Bible is that!?
A lusty one!
India produces better looking scientists than most countries.
You mean scientists like this Indian God?
Could it be they succeeded in part because much of the previous experience?
Either way, great job doing it on their first attempt and cheapest.
You should reverse the question: Will NASA be able to build on this "previous" experience? Would they be able to send a rocket to Mars for $75m, in end of 2015?
(RIAA, MPAA and various law enforcement agencies not counting as "people").
They do know this! And their tactic is to let you think that they don't.
First time I've wanted to actually compliment Mickeysoft on something in years.
You think they're doing this for the right reasons? Wakey wakey!
Right or not - if the EU is too weak to force the US to back down with these laws, maybe money is the way to go.
Ancient technology I know, but I feel really naked when I try to leave home without them.
As kids we used to have (actually fantasize about) glasses that could make you see through clothes. You only need a pair of those and all is fine!
However this really should be part of the RFC, or else anyone banning mixed names would be "non compliant". If the RCF does not specify this then the best that gmail (or any other system could do) would be to prevent people registering mixed names themselves and giving a warning (and maybe colour characters) if email is recieived from an address with mixed scripts.
Gmail, Microsoft and Yahoo and others like gmx, universities, big companies should simply refuse these mails. Microsoft should make Exchange so that this is the default way for handling these mails. The same goes for qmail, postfix etc. But that won't be enough.
As another commenter said, you can make up latin looking names using cyrillic characters, and we won't notice. How do you catch that? I guess this will the the time that PGP will prove it's value.
Worse; they will come from root@gmail.com, administrator@gmail.com or BillGates@gmail.com, only those o's and a's will be Cyrillic or something like that (can't do it here; Slashdot doesn't display them).
When you mix Latin htmail with a Cyrillic o to get hotmail, Google and all email programs should refuse that address immediately, mark it as spam, make the address red with a warning sign etc. Mixing character sets should not be allowed in a domain or in a username. So the username may be all Cyrillic or Greek, the domain name may be all Chinese or Latin, and these may mix, but no mixes in the domain name or username itself.
So the next lot of phishing will come from: róót@gmail.com / Àdministrator@gmail.com or BìllGàtes@gmail.com etc?
It's not about bìllgàtes@outlook.com, but billgates@óutlook.com. It's the domain that is going to cause problems, not the user!
Anybody still seriously doubt that Russia is a neo-Fascist country?
They do!