I'm a 2000 user, but I edited gtkrc located in C:\Program Files\Common Files\GTK\2.0\etc\gtk-2.0 and found with the following:
# The following section allows you to change the style of the conversation # window widgets, log viewer widget, and request and notify window widgets. # These only work in Gaim 0.78 or higher. style "imhtml-fix" { font_name = "Sans 12" } # Set the widget style for the conversation entry box widget "*gaim_gtkconv_entry" style "imhtml-fix" # Set the widget style for the conversation widget "*gaim_gtkconv_imhtml" style "imhtml-fix"
# Set the widget style for the log viewer widget "*gaim_gtklog_imhtml" style "imhtml-fix"
# Set the widget style for IMHtml input widgets in request dialogs widget "*gaim_gtkrequest_imhtml" style "imhtml-fix" # Set the widget style for IMHtml widgets in notify dialogs widget "*gaim_gtknotify_imhtml" style "imhtml-fix"
and that enlarged the font. Unfortunately, whenever I load Gaim now some DLL warning comes up. I ignore it and it works. That said, it was annoying enough that I moved back to Trillian where they have now added a Webcam, and thus made me happy.
Ahhh. I'm sorry, I misinterpreted then. Yes, that type of layout will be a part of CSS3 (unless things change).
To be honest, why do you want to do such? For print style sheets that is probably not a bad idea, but the Web is not print media. ALA has had two articles on how to do this technique. You're right, this is a pain, but it seems like a step in the wrong direction IMHO. Not that I wouldn't take having more options avaiable to me to do things though. More options is better than less.
Actually, your confusing CSS as a language and the CSS that is used in practice because it is what is available in IE. Columns are very easy to do in conforming user-agents. The following would work:
Conforming user agents will insert an Anonymous Table row between the columns, so it will adhere like a table.
In fact, CSS wouldn't even need the id or the classes, if you have a standard template you could use adjaceny and child or decendent selectors to hit the exact divs you need. IE's horrid support for CSS selectors has narrowed most developers vision in this area. In fact, if they did nothing else, I would be happy if IE would just reach full CSS selector support (except the child selector, it is the popular selector for working around the other defecencies IE has with CSS and we need some hack to get around it. If they fixed everything else as well then I would like the hack removed). I would say that ids and classes are more usefull for JavaScript developers to grab the specific elements there and to pass in information that makes many CSS geeks angry because they misunderstand that ids and classes are not specifically designed for presentation. The following is perfectly valid:
JavaScript could then grab the element with the id name, and store the maximum and minimum lengths in the by ripping out the corresponding text. This is perfectly valid code.
CSS is an incredibly powerful standard that most people will rag on til the end of time because they're only familiar with what other people use, and not what they SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE. I would LOVE it if Opera wasn't the only browser to support counters (I have no idea if any KHTML browser can do this).
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Maybe not the next version number, but the original intent was for Firefox to eventually be merged back into the Mozilla suite. Based off it's surge in popularity, I'm not sure what they're going to do with it now.
Seemingly in competition with itself, AOL has also been beta testing an Internet Explorer based Web browser it calls "AOL Browser." AOL Browser is independent from the company's client software and adds features such as tabbed browsing and privacy options on top of Microsoft's IE engine.
They already are making a browser based off IE, but it won't be called Netscape.
The reason that works, is because you're validating the Slashdot page saying you're network/IP is blocked from Slashdot. Ok, I'll give you that that page is valid, but that's not the main Slashdot Web site's page.
I think the poster is making a joke here. Slashdot's HTML is neither valid 3.2 or 4.01 even with the DOCTYPE declarations. Not.by.a.long.shot. In fact,/. has gone through the effort of preventing users from sending their site to the W3C validator (unless some mirror is used)....
It does got rid of useless options and cleaned up the interface.
Useless options or know, it also got rid of a feature I loved (though I can get it in an extension, not having it in the browser means that even less people will care about it). That feature is only in Mozilla (it is not in Netscape) and that is the Site Navigation Bar. It Provides access to the Metadata a Web site may have define. I am a strong supporter in using Meta data on a Web site, especially using Next and Prev to go between pages.
I know IE doesn't do anything with it (and thus most Web designers don't even do anything with it) and W3C specifically said user agents did not have to do anything with it, but Firefox is supposed to be better than IE and Mozilla (yes, I know it wants to be bloat free). Sadly, Mozilla may have the feature to display it, but this is turned off by default, so not many people even know about it. This all said, I doubt it'll ever happen.
The laws under discussion (
apparently AB 205 and AB 25 according to this GoogleNews listed source) would make gay partnerships legally recognized with all the same rights as a marriage, but a different name -- a rose by any other name and a nicely Solomonic decision, pissing off the Radical Gays who demand both name and substance, and Christian Zealots who would deny them both. A nice compromise, therefore. =)
Wait, so they wrote a law that defined two seperate concepts to be equal? Didn't we decide that this concept was illegal 50 years ago?
Mozilla/Firefox has no convenient mechanism for allowing users to immediately detect updates and patch their browsers. In some ways, IE's security is ahead that of Mozilla/Firefox.
So what is this icon in the lower right corner that when I mouse over tells me "Update(s) available " mean? Well, it means Mozilla needs to get on the ball and fix it because I *am* running the latest version, but yes, that functionality is in there and is being fixed (hopefully) for the 1.0 (or sooner) release of Firefox.
What are the odds that these applications will run on something besides IE? Is this the real reason Microsoft was talking about making a new version of Internet Explorer?
Or am I completely misinterpreting what they mean by Web services?
I have got to say that is the exact oppposite with me. In high school we had a keyboarding class that I greatly accelled in, and within a few weeks attained a score higher than my teacher had set for us for the end of the semester (giving me an A for the course for the most part). It has only been in recent years as I am IRCing and programming more that my typing skills have gone down. I often make errors that I must go back and correct, where as before I would type them correctly the first time.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but the more I learn about computers the slower and less accurate my typing has been. Oddly enough, I rarely make mistakes with hot/shortcut-keys, except I do tend to hit Ctrl+D (shortcut to add a bookmark) rather than Alt+D (transfer focus to a highighted address bar) in Firefox.
Now let us hope that there are no spoofing mechanisms discovered that result in users believing they're on one of the whitelisted sites to allow such installations. As someone on that board had already pointed out, allowing all of mozilla.org as a means to install code can result in people taking advantage of bugzilla.mozilla.org and ftp.mozilla.org.
You know, I really appreciate hearing from developers who recognize a potential threat and are informing us how they are working to fight the problem. Their method might be taking a page out of Internet Explorer for SP2, but if it works than it's good.
When I installed Firefox.9, I created a new profile and then copied my old bookmarks into the new profile's bookmark area (just replaced the new bookmarks.html with the old one). I then went to the TBE's Web site where I downloaded the latest release and have not had a problem with it at all.
Have you tried clearing your cache? I've had similar issues where I could not go back to a site. Clearing the cache fixed this.
I believe I had seen this listed as a bug that was originally in 1.2 that snuck back in. I haven't checked to see if has been corrected yet. Of course, I can rarely ever find previous bugs in Bugzilla, but that's a whole nother topic entirely....
Hmm, this is odd. I can turn warnings and medium to all and profile to CSS3 and my page validates on their server. I see their method uses the validator?uri=SOMEURL method to validate. Switching to the check/referer?warning=2&profile=css3&usermedium=al l method to validate with everything turned on results in the validator producing an error CSS for [href^="http://"].
Would be nice if they had CSS3 (instead of CSS2) support for validating turned on by default. A bit quirky, but it is at least better then before. Now it generates warnings instead of errors for valid CSS3 that it doesn't implement.
I wondered when/. was going to mention this. It's been around for at least few days now.
Well, don't feel bad about not knowing as SUNY Brockport is the only college in America (and as far as I'm aware one of three in the world) to offer it as an undergraduate program with a specific department dedicated to it. Yes, there are colleges which offer it as tracks within mathematics, chemistry, physics, etc, but those are subdivisions within their specific programs, not a major onto itself. Rather then repeating myself, my previous comment should speak for itself.
The point is NOT to make a web site accessible to people who don't understand web sites! This is like the icon caption: "AOL 4.0: DOUBLE CLICK TO START". Don't do that. It's okay to say "Click here to view the page I have written about foo." instead of "I have written a page about foo.", but please don't take all that advice literally.
Yes, please do not take this advice literally, as it is wrong. The poster is correct that you are not to build a web site to people that don't understand web sites, but W3C actually recommends the exact opposite of his example of what is ok.
Also, makingmultiplelinksonlyseperatedbyspacesisbad. Not just because slashdot's filter (or whatever it is that adds the link domain) probably just garbled that, but those with poor sight cannot tell the difference when one link ends and the other begins (unless slashdot garbles it for them to point out a link is done and where it goes).
Also, if you come across sites referencing Bobby, please note that for some reason Bobby has decided that if an image is used anywhere in the page it will not pass their test. Previously, they would mark it off and warn testers that they must ensure that colors aren't used to differentiate context. Because of this, there are many sites out there that will claim Bobby compliance when they are not. That said, Cynthia Says provides a similar tester with a few more options. If you use Mozilla, Chris Pederick's Web Developer Extension contains an option under the Validation menu to validate against WAI Accessibility or Section 508 (as well as validate links, HTML and CSS).
Finally, it's worth noting that some you should check your pages in Lynx Viewer to see how the page would look in Lynx (or just run Lynx yourself). This is useful for when judging your content based on its textual equivalent (which in some instances is what is read off by screen readers). Also add a "skip to content" link whose CSS sets it to display none for graphical browsers (some people suggest leaving this on, but W3C's validator even uses this method so I go with them). If they are having the screen read to them after a while they will no how the navigation system works, and won't need to have all those links read to them and just want to get to the actual content in your page. If you go the full XHTML route, you'll also have accesskeys and tabindexes available so they can tab through your links corretly and can get back to the beginning of your page if you set a named anchor as the first thing they tab to (the second being the skip to content, thus they can simply hit the 'T' key on to take them to the top and then skip the content to get to the beginning of the content OR they can go through the navigation (of course, you could have given each entry in your navigation an accesskey, but that's not always helpful, and this is useful in case they forget what they key is for something in the navigation).
Wow, I can't believe I knew this much on the subject....
I love math and I love programming, that's why I decided to get my BS in Computational Science at the only college in North America to offer it as a full department, rather then some track under Computer Science, Mathematics, Physics, Chemisty, etc..
While at SUNY Brockport I've done a great deal of number crunching and thus done most of my programming in FORTRAN. I've learned some C++ where pure number crunching wasn't required, so please don't start flaming me borthering to learn FORTRAN. Currently I am continuing on for my MS there while working on the College's Web site, where I am work PHP and MySQL (yes, I recognize this doesn't relate towards my field, but I *am* still a student and find it a bit more fulfilling then going out to faculty's machines to explain to them that the 400 instances of spyware that I had just cleaned off their machine was what was boggign down their machine).
In my experience, above the 200 level most Computer Science classes deal with theory and involve very little programming. I've seen instances of students forgetting how to code merely because they don't have to do it much. I've seen students waste minutes at a telnet terminal trying to figure out how to compile a C++ program that links to the math library whose output is something besides a.out. The student wasn't an idiot, he just hadn't compiled anywhere besides in Windows. It just sickens me. Honestly, I basically minored in Computer Science so that I would have it on my resume so that future employers would know that there was something different to what I've learned, and might get me an interview to explain it.
I am somewhat tired, so correct me if I am wrong, but aren't you only replacign the first occurrence of steve jobs with bill gates after you've replaced (apple product) with (microsoft product)? After that, wouldn't you then have Steve Jobs hyping up or selling Microsoft products?
I have found that Quirksmode's section on older browsers to be very useful, especially detailing how simple it is to install multiple versions of Internet Explorer. You really do see a jump in CSS and Javascript support as you progress from 3 -> 4 -> 5.01 -> 5.5SP2 -> 6SP1, though I feel this is to be expected.
Now if you'll excuse me, I must be off to try and figure out why the changes I made friday night to work around some invisible transparent layer that was killing all of my links in Mozilla has now created the exact problem in Opera....
Slashdot Mirror
I'm a 2000 user, but I edited gtkrc located in C:\Program Files\Common Files\GTK\2.0\etc\gtk-2.0 and found with the following:
# The following section allows you to change the style of the conversation
# window widgets, log viewer widget, and request and notify window widgets.
# These only work in Gaim 0.78 or higher.
style "imhtml-fix"
{
font_name = "Sans 12"
}
# Set the widget style for the conversation entry box
widget "*gaim_gtkconv_entry" style "imhtml-fix"
# Set the widget style for the conversation
widget "*gaim_gtkconv_imhtml" style "imhtml-fix"
# Set the widget style for the log viewer
widget "*gaim_gtklog_imhtml" style "imhtml-fix"
# Set the widget style for IMHtml input widgets in request dialogs
widget "*gaim_gtkrequest_imhtml" style "imhtml-fix"
# Set the widget style for IMHtml widgets in notify dialogs
widget "*gaim_gtknotify_imhtml" style "imhtml-fix"
and that enlarged the font. Unfortunately, whenever I load Gaim now some DLL warning comes up. I ignore it and it works. That said, it was annoying enough that I moved back to Trillian where they have now added a Webcam, and thus made me happy.
Ahhh. I'm sorry, I misinterpreted then. Yes, that type of layout will be a part of CSS3 (unless things change).
To be honest, why do you want to do such? For print style sheets that is probably not a bad idea, but the Web is not print media. ALA has had two articles on how to do this technique. You're right, this is a pain, but it seems like a step in the wrong direction IMHO. Not that I wouldn't take having more options avaiable to me to do things though. More options is better than less.
Actually, your confusing CSS as a language and the CSS that is used in practice because it is what is available in IE. Columns are very easy to do in conforming user-agents. The following would work:
/>
<div id="t1">
<div class="col">
some HTML here
</div>
<div class="col">
some HTML here
</div>
</div>
</code>
and then the CSS:
#t1 { display: table; }
div.col { display: table-cell;}
Conforming user agents will insert an Anonymous Table row between the columns, so it will adhere like a table.
In fact, CSS wouldn't even need the id or the classes, if you have a standard template you could use adjaceny and child or decendent selectors to hit the exact divs you need. IE's horrid support for CSS selectors has narrowed most developers vision in this area. In fact, if they did nothing else, I would be happy if IE would just reach full CSS selector support (except the child selector, it is the popular selector for working around the other defecencies IE has with CSS and we need some hack to get around it. If they fixed everything else as well then I would like the hack removed). I would say that ids and classes are more usefull for JavaScript developers to grab the specific elements there and to pass in information that makes many CSS geeks angry because they misunderstand that ids and classes are not specifically designed for presentation. The following is perfectly valid:
<input id="name" class="maxlength_30 minlength_10"
JavaScript could then grab the element with the id name, and store the maximum and minimum lengths in the by ripping out the corresponding text. This is perfectly valid code.
CSS is an incredibly powerful standard that most people will rag on til the end of time because they're only familiar with what other people use, and not what they SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE. I would LOVE it if Opera wasn't the only browser to support counters (I have no idea if any KHTML browser can do this).
Maybe not the next version number, but the original intent was for Firefox to eventually be merged back into the Mozilla suite. Based off it's surge in popularity, I'm not sure what they're going to do with it now.
From the article
They already are making a browser based off IE, but it won't be called Netscape.
The reason that works, is because you're validating the Slashdot page saying you're network/IP is blocked from Slashdot. Ok, I'll give you that that page is valid, but that's not the main Slashdot Web site's page.
Informative?
/. has gone through the effort of preventing users from sending their site to the W3C validator (unless some mirror is used)....
I think the poster is making a joke here. Slashdot's HTML is neither valid 3.2 or 4.01 even with the DOCTYPE declarations. Not.by.a.long.shot. In fact,
Useless options or know, it also got rid of a feature I loved (though I can get it in an extension, not having it in the browser means that even less people will care about it). That feature is only in Mozilla (it is not in Netscape) and that is the Site Navigation Bar. It Provides access to the Metadata a Web site may have define. I am a strong supporter in using Meta data on a Web site, especially using Next and Prev to go between pages.
I know IE doesn't do anything with it (and thus most Web designers don't even do anything with it) and W3C specifically said user agents did not have to do anything with it, but Firefox is supposed to be better than IE and Mozilla (yes, I know it wants to be bloat free). Sadly, Mozilla may have the feature to display it, but this is turned off by default, so not many people even know about it. This all said, I doubt it'll ever happen.
Wait, so they wrote a law that defined two seperate concepts to be equal? Didn't we decide that this concept was illegal 50 years ago?
So what is this icon in the lower right corner that when I mouse over tells me "Update(s) available " mean? Well, it means Mozilla needs to get on the ball and fix it because I *am* running the latest version, but yes, that functionality is in there and is being fixed (hopefully) for the 1.0 (or sooner) release of Firefox.
What are the odds that these applications will run on something besides IE? Is this the real reason Microsoft was talking about making a new version of Internet Explorer?
Or am I completely misinterpreting what they mean by Web services?
I have got to say that is the exact oppposite with me. In high school we had a keyboarding class that I greatly accelled in, and within a few weeks attained a score higher than my teacher had set for us for the end of the semester (giving me an A for the course for the most part). It has only been in recent years as I am IRCing and programming more that my typing skills have gone down. I often make errors that I must go back and correct, where as before I would type them correctly the first time.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but the more I learn about computers the slower and less accurate my typing has been. Oddly enough, I rarely make mistakes with hot/shortcut-keys, except I do tend to hit Ctrl+D (shortcut to add a bookmark) rather than Alt+D (transfer focus to a highighted address bar) in Firefox.
Now let us hope that there are no spoofing mechanisms discovered that result in users believing they're on one of the whitelisted sites to allow such installations. As someone on that board had already pointed out, allowing all of mozilla.org as a means to install code can result in people taking advantage of bugzilla.mozilla.org and ftp.mozilla.org.
You know, I really appreciate hearing from developers who recognize a potential threat and are informing us how they are working to fight the problem. Their method might be taking a page out of Internet Explorer for SP2, but if it works than it's good.
Wow! An Anonymous Coward that has no problem with genocide. What are the odds....
/Yes, I understood what he meant.
When I installed Firefox .9, I created a new profile and then copied my old bookmarks into the new profile's bookmark area (just replaced the new bookmarks.html with the old one). I then went to the TBE's Web site where I downloaded the latest release and have not had a problem with it at all.
Have you tried clearing your cache? I've had similar issues where I could not go back to a site. Clearing the cache fixed this.
I believe I had seen this listed as a bug that was originally in 1.2 that snuck back in. I haven't checked to see if has been corrected yet. Of course, I can rarely ever find previous bugs in Bugzilla, but that's a whole nother topic entirely....
Hmm, this is odd. I can turn warnings and medium to all and profile to CSS3 and my page validates on their server. I see their method uses the validator?uri=SOMEURL method to validate. Switching to the check/referer?warning=2&profile=css3&usermedium=al l method to validate with everything turned on results in the validator producing an error CSS for [href^="http://"].
Would be nice if they had CSS3 (instead of CSS2) support for validating turned on by default. A bit quirky, but it is at least better then before. Now it generates warnings instead of errors for valid CSS3 that it doesn't implement.
I wondered when /. was going to mention this. It's been around for at least few days now.
Well, don't feel bad about not knowing as SUNY Brockport is the only college in America (and as far as I'm aware one of three in the world) to offer it as an undergraduate program with a specific department dedicated to it. Yes, there are colleges which offer it as tracks within mathematics, chemistry, physics, etc, but those are subdivisions within their specific programs, not a major onto itself. Rather then repeating myself, my previous comment should speak for itself.
Yes, please do not take this advice literally, as it is wrong. The poster is correct that you are not to build a web site to people that don't understand web sites, but W3C actually recommends the exact opposite of his example of what is ok.
Also, making multiple links only seperated by spaces is bad. Not just because slashdot's filter (or whatever it is that adds the link domain) probably just garbled that, but those with poor sight cannot tell the difference when one link ends and the other begins (unless slashdot garbles it for them to point out a link is done and where it goes).
Also, if you come across sites referencing Bobby, please note that for some reason Bobby has decided that if an image is used anywhere in the page it will not pass their test. Previously, they would mark it off and warn testers that they must ensure that colors aren't used to differentiate context. Because of this, there are many sites out there that will claim Bobby compliance when they are not. That said, Cynthia Says provides a similar tester with a few more options. If you use Mozilla, Chris Pederick's Web Developer Extension contains an option under the Validation menu to validate against WAI Accessibility or Section 508 (as well as validate links, HTML and CSS).
Finally, it's worth noting that some you should check your pages in Lynx Viewer to see how the page would look in Lynx (or just run Lynx yourself). This is useful for when judging your content based on its textual equivalent (which in some instances is what is read off by screen readers). Also add a "skip to content" link whose CSS sets it to display none for graphical browsers (some people suggest leaving this on, but W3C's validator even uses this method so I go with them). If they are having the screen read to them after a while they will no how the navigation system works, and won't need to have all those links read to them and just want to get to the actual content in your page. If you go the full XHTML route, you'll also have accesskeys and tabindexes available so they can tab through your links corretly and can get back to the beginning of your page if you set a named anchor as the first thing they tab to (the second being the skip to content, thus they can simply hit the 'T' key on to take them to the top and then skip the content to get to the beginning of the content OR they can go through the navigation (of course, you could have given each entry in your navigation an accesskey, but that's not always helpful, and this is useful in case they forget what they key is for something in the navigation).
Wow, I can't believe I knew this much on the subject....
You do know there already is a field named Computational Science, right?
I love math and I love programming, that's why I decided to get my BS in Computational Science at the only college in North America to offer it as a full department, rather then some track under Computer Science, Mathematics, Physics, Chemisty, etc..
While at SUNY Brockport I've done a great deal of number crunching and thus done most of my programming in FORTRAN. I've learned some C++ where pure number crunching wasn't required, so please don't start flaming me borthering to learn FORTRAN. Currently I am continuing on for my MS there while working on the College's Web site, where I am work PHP and MySQL (yes, I recognize this doesn't relate towards my field, but I *am* still a student and find it a bit more fulfilling then going out to faculty's machines to explain to them that the 400 instances of spyware that I had just cleaned off their machine was what was boggign down their machine).
In my experience, above the 200 level most Computer Science classes deal with theory and involve very little programming. I've seen instances of students forgetting how to code merely because they don't have to do it much. I've seen students waste minutes at a telnet terminal trying to figure out how to compile a C++ program that links to the math library whose output is something besides a.out. The student wasn't an idiot, he just hadn't compiled anywhere besides in Windows. It just sickens me. Honestly, I basically minored in Computer Science so that I would have it on my resume so that future employers would know that there was something different to what I've learned, and might get me an interview to explain it.
I am somewhat tired, so correct me if I am wrong, but aren't you only replacign the first occurrence of steve jobs with bill gates after you've replaced (apple product) with (microsoft product)? After that, wouldn't you then have Steve Jobs hyping up or selling Microsoft products?
I have found that Quirksmode's section on older browsers to be very useful, especially detailing how simple it is to install multiple versions of Internet Explorer. You really do see a jump in CSS and Javascript support as you progress from 3 -> 4 -> 5.01 -> 5.5SP2 -> 6SP1, though I feel this is to be expected.
Now if you'll excuse me, I must be off to try and figure out why the changes I made friday night to work around some invisible transparent layer that was killing all of my links in Mozilla has now created the exact problem in Opera....