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AOL to Replace AIM with Triton
An anonymous reader writes "BetaNews is reporting that AOL has begun beta testing a replacement for its AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) software. Triton has an entirely new user interface that adds highly anticipated features including tabbed messaging and logging. The client will also be open to third party plug-ins." From the article: "It is no coincidence that AOL is fielding so many betas concurrently. AOL Browser, an Internet Explorer based Web browser; AOL Media Player, a standalone audio and video player; AOL search technologies and AOL's synchronization utilities are all part of what was once a unified communications client called Fanfare."
Pretty interesting stuff. Hopefully it wont suck like the latest AIM versions...
"OMG WTF?!?!?"
Sounds familiar
errr....Gaim anyone?
I'll stick with trillian...
Stuff that programs like Trillian (Windows), GAIM (windows, Linux), Fire (osx), and Dead AIM (Windows, add on) have had for years.
And then VoIP? Skype...
Nothing new to see here, move along...
adds highly anticipated features including tabbed messaging and logging
I've been using this for quite a while, though. It's called Gaim.
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So, AOL is trying to decrappify themselves in the eyes of the public? >.>
Show this to your friends and family that don't know what a real hacker is
It is worth noting that this is still an early beta.
I installed it this morning and had frequent crashes so I switched back to the regular 5.9 version.
Here's a select quote from the betanews forums:
"Why is it that so many small or independent developers give us so much quality software, often without reward, and huge companies like AOL can only spit out this bloated garbage?"
I have often regretted my speech, never my silence.
-Xenocrates
Trillian
If trillion would get it's crap together then there would be no need in anymore windows IM clients...
Help me get a PSP! Who can afford s
...that this 'new version' will include 'features' that make it impossible/illegal (DMCA comes to mind) for third-parties to build compatible clients? Not to mention more adware/spyware-like functionality.
A lot of those features touted in the headline are features that I've been using for years with alternative clients. Oh, but what's this? Support for VOIP? Address books? Plug-in architechture? Now it's sounding more interesting. I may have to start using the AIM client again.
Answering another user grievance, AOL will pair down the number of preference options in AIM, taking what it refers to as a "smarter approach." A spokesperson said that the current AIM client was heavy with preferences because, "We couldn't decide one way or another."
But they still tacked on tons of ads and annoying pop-up windows, the dumb approach. Hopefully the new version will be ad-free and user friendly. Is this possible?
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
Just as a clarification, this is *not* a new protocol. This is a new client that integrates the AIM protocol and functionality with other services.
Trion!!!
Now with bigger, more explosive ads!
features such as logging and tabbed conversations. cutting edge innovations? ha! i think not. maybe they should call it agaim or something. now they're taking stuff back.
4 80209/triton.png screenshot they are quite clearly trying to replicate MSN 6 to 'please' users. same ugly style. expect similar bloat.
looking at http://images.betanews.com/betanews/articles/1114
I'm going to stick with trillian.
The Doormat
If you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention.
How long til they pull close the door on thrid party im's? To make them unable to use the network? Could it be they just want to make the switch with the least amount of bitching?
Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."
I think now I'll write a P2P application that runs on top of Triton called Tritonster. When AOL inevitably sues me for trademark infringement I'll claim that my daughter's nickname has been Tritonee for some time.
Sounds like a winning business plan to me!
I'm a big tall mofo.
The client will also be open to third party plug-ins.
Well i do hope they have some security in mind with those plugins! In the local news a few nights ago it was said that someone turned a webcam on to a 16 year old girl on msn messenger. After he took some ensaulting pictures of her, he (was caught after all) was blackmaling the girl!
They say they will be opening up to third party developers.
I checked the acccore.dll file, and seems to have some pretty extensive hooks. All the same, this is entirely client-side.
Recently, they have been clamping down more and more on third-party developers of services on the network. For example, a free offline messaging service, DoorManBot was forced offline for a few days recently. Hopefully, this new spirit of being open to developers will carry through.
Send offline messages on AIM with DoorManBot
sounds like alot of features have been taken from the functionality added by the DeadAIM plugin
If you can't see the value in jet powered ants you should turn in your nerd card. - Dunbal (464142)
Yet you all seem to fail to realise the purpose of this. While all those 3rd party clients are great and all. Who's to say AOL can't change the rules and block all 3rd party applications and then go DMCA on the creators and all this free software would cease to exist. This may be the direction AOL plans to take the AIM protocol. It might be totally wrong. But at least it's something to think about before you blatantly bash them for providing something for free all these years.
Last time I checked the AIM protocol still runs on servers controlled by AOL.
I live in Canada so have never used AIM. I am, however, an avid user of Trillian and GAIM over ICQ and MSN. Now I'm not sure if it's just me, but offering tabbed chatting and logging features doesn't seem that impressive to me. Honestly, I wouldn't use a client that didn't log conversations and offer some type of window control.
I didn't RTFM, but I hope that those aren't the best features that Triton has to offer...
Maybe it is too difficult to download a different IM when you use dial up?
How about AOL is forced to have on it's instal CD a second IM program?
I had a friend who does have AOL and they had Real Player installed as part of the AOL instal. You could not opt-out. It seems to me that AOL is becomming the next M$. Luckily, most people have broadband so AOL will die.
Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."
I don't like AIM. None of the features are worth anything. The lastest versions came with spyware "wildTanget" I will assume the same for this. I will never use it
I see everyone touting GAIM and Trillian like they are even remotely comparable to AIM from AOL. This is pretty funny. I agree the latest version seem a little bloated and have some annoying options though. However, it's much more stable, feature friendly, and flat out works the way it should. All of these open source version are terrible buggy or missing features. They did, however, capitalize on the features users really wanted and that's great. There have been addons for AIM that provide this support, but nothing from AOL sadly enough.
It's funny that logging isn't included since chat logging has been available on the AOL client for over 10 years. In any case -- I welcome Triton and look forward to a decent product that finally provides all of these features.
With the advances in CD/DVD burning and buffer underrun protection, I've not made any coasters in a really long time.
It's like c'mon, what else can I put my cup/glass on? I don't even get the Bell sympatico CDs anymore either.
Cheap bastards. Don't they know their CDs are actually worth something to me?
it'll be like....trillian 0.9B!!
-- http://www.criticalassets.com
Looks like the next peice of malware to infect the web. Next thing you know they'll be following with slogan theft, and perhaps even claim that it "Just Works" like Windows longhorn
Triton was completely re-written from scratch using a new GUI toolkit called "Boxely", which was derived from Mozilla's XUL. As a result, this new AIM is extremely extensible, and hackable.
.box). These contain the code that drives the entire product. You can easily modify and extend AIM, just as you can write extensions for Firefox with XUL. This is no accident, AOL wants developers to build on AIM as a platform.
Poke around in C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\AIMBeta\services and you'll find a bunch of javascript and xml files (ending in
When I worked at AOL, I developed Boxely as a fun side project. I left the company a year ago, but they kept my project alive and now seem to be building real software with it. I probably should have open sourced it from the beginning.
On my blog I've written more about Boxely and how it compares to XUL: http://www.joehewitt.com/
Just what does this client do that it needs more than a 600mhz computer?
I got the installer, which was annoying as it's not even an installer at all but an install-getter, and it immediately prompted me with the message "Your computer does not meet the minimum system requirements to download and install AIM® Beta."
You and me, both.
If I just used AIM, then Triton might interest me.
However, some of my friends insist on having MSN names (I guess they like putting an entire fucking paragraph in for their handle,) so I'd just rather have one catch-all program, which Trillian does quite fine since I upgraded to v3. I'm dissapointed that it took so long for me to be able to see the fonts that other users had set, though. Before, it just always showed my font for everyone, regardless of their settings.
Now, if only they'd take away that stupid XP-like interface and give me the regular preference window I was so used to...
However, on the subject of cross-IM, can't ICQ and AOL accounts interface now?
The client will also be open to third party plug-ins.
Yay! More ways for spyware and viruses to take control of your computer! And propagate themselves to your friends' computers too. This is a disaster waiting to happen.
I totally get your point- being able to talk with people using different clients is from one source is handy. But I don't think Trillian is the killer app people make it out to be. I've used it, and yeah it's OK, but Trillian is basically just an IM client aggregator- it doesn't provide any messaging capabilities itself, I don't find any of its own features that useful, you still have to have an account with each service you want to use, and until recently that was kind of a pain in the ass (cue flaming arrows).
It's not like Trillian does anything super fantastic, if you look at the new features Trillian has like the bio thing, it's just AIM profiles. There's no tabbed messaging, as far as I know Trillian doesn't support VOIP (in TFA they say Triton will), and there's no plugin support (again TFA says that will be in there).
I think the plugins is going to be where it's at- look how much they've helped the popularity of Mozilla and Firefox. When you have an app and think "damn, I wish it did [THAT]" and then you can either go find it or write your own, that's fucking sweet. For me, waiting for the next release and wondering if it's in there sucks.
R(k)
I know AOL doesn't have a record of doing smart things, but if they actually make the client non-shitty, it can only help. People won't generally switch to Gaim and Trillian, because they don't know the company. People want a name brand. We see this with Linux vs. Windows and such.
So if they actually make a better client, maybe one that instantly kills noob fuxx0rs, the world will be a better place.
I'm not sure why they decided that they need such a huge change from what they already had, I always thought that (exessive ads from in the buddy list aside) AIM had a pretty decent UI. In fact, the only thing that ever really annoyed me about AIM was it allowing people to set the background color on their text, because people seem to invariably love sending lime green text on a hot pink background, or something else equally blinding. But looking at the screenshots of this new client, it seems bulky and way to flashy. Generally when I get an IM, I just want a small text window that will pop-up that I can read and reply to quickly. Along these lines, I think tabbed IMs are a bad idea (turned them off in Gaim), because tabbed IMs only really seem to work if your concentrating only on IMing people, instead of (what I do, and what I would suspect most other people do) simply leaving the IM services on in the background while you do other stuff.
Of course, as someone else mentioned, until they add support for multiple protocols, and a linux port, I'll be sticking with Gaim, though I certainly hope Gaim doesn't try to copy this new look.
Famous Last Words: "hmm...wikipedia says it's edible"
For me, waiting for the next release and wondering if it's in there sucks.
Welcome to the world of closed-source crippleware.
Now I wish there was a software like Trillian but open source. Oh, and I tried GAIM, but the bugs and lack of features made me go back to trilly'.
Sucks, doesn't it?
"It is no coincidence that AOL is fielding so many betas concurrently."
What, did they get bought by Google?
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
Sounds like they were paying attention to Adium, which is webkit rather than gecko based but otherwise sounds similar.
Well, except that Adium works with just about every IM service out there.
AOL bought them a few years ago for 350 million and didnt do anything with it. ICQ had everything AIM didnt why dont they just use ICQ.
That is, until AOL uses DRM against Trillian et al over the code that decrypts Triton's packets (and that, only if AOL doesn't bother making its client harder to reverse engineer, likely a regret that is probably a driving force in creating a new service).
It's been a while since i used AIM(I use trillian instead), but do new windows pop up *and* give focus ?
Always hated that. You're typing in the first half of a sentence to person A, and right at that moment Person B messages you, and you accidentally end up tying the rest of the sentence to person B. '
Of course if you're shit-talking about person B, you end up with egg on your fae.
anyway tabbed IM would definitely be welcomed...but can it post on /.?
Some people believe 1-1=3 and for the sake of being politically correct, we should respect their differences
Thank you, Keith McGreggor.
...like using pure Flash for advertisements?
I had to switch to GAIM not for any particular feature, but to get rid of the advertising.
Seemed the version of AIM I was using at the time allowed Flash advertisements with sound, and the sound completely ignored my other settings in the AIM client to turn all sounds off.
so here i am, in my quiet little room trying to get work done, and suddenly I get interrupted by a trailer for some movie coming from the one app that should have been totally silent.
I was not amused.
and AIM was off my box in seconds.
"But remember, most lynch mobs aren't this nice." (H.Simpson)
-- Joe
Yeah, totally sucks. I didn't much care for GAIM myself. If Triton's plugin development ends up being as open as Mozilla's, I'll be all over it in a second. There's prolly a way to do something like what Trillian is doing with a plugin...
R(k)
Isn't Triton the codename for Internet Explorer or something?
No existe.
There's no tabbed messaging
Tabbed messaging has been in Trillian since 2.0. See here.
you still have to have an account with each service you want to use
For at least a couple of the services, you can do this right through Trillian (for the others, it loads up a web page just like the official client does). I don't see how this is any different than what you'd do with an official client.
Trillian is basically just an IM client aggregator- it doesn't provide any messaging capabilities itself
Well, being an IM client aggregator pretty much makes it a killer app in itself (yes, I know there are others, but that alone instantly puts it a rung above all "official" IM clients, as does the lack of ads).
Being nicely designed and skinnable puts it yet again a step above even most other aggregators. Trillian 3.0 is so far ahead of any other IM client in terms of clean visual presentation throughout that it's not even funny. All apps should look this good by default, and if by some remote chance you don't like it, you can just download a new skin. The entire UI is skinnable, not just the outer edges. It also supports all sorts of plugins, from RSS readers to IM forwarders to weather.
Having features like tabbed messaging and 128-bit encryption is yet another point in its favor. No other freely downloadable Windows-based IM clients have these features, that I know of.
In short, Trillian does a lot of things, does some things no other IM client does, and everything it does do, it does well. AOL is apparently copying many of the features of Trillian in Triton, which should tell you something - I don't personally know anyone who actually uses the regular AIM client anymore.
Does this mean they are finally going to ditch ICQ? While it used to be popular in the late 90s I think I have two people left on my list who still use it.
I never understood why AOL wanted to have two toally separate IM clients. I realize that AIM and ICQ are using the same protocol (or close) now, but they really should have merged the clients or picked one or the other by now.
does GAIM or any other linux messenger support webcams?
Does it still use OSCAR? If not, they will hopefully still keep supporting OSCAR and TOC connections.
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It probably will connect with multiple IM services. It will probably have ads, though.
I mod down pyramid schemes in sigs.
Some people believe 1-1=3 and for the sake of being politically correct, we should respect their differences
I always thought it was called Gaim, but Iguess i was mistaken ... oh well
I am Spartacus
First they are copying Gaim... next well see a CLI version like Naim for the windows CMD. http://handhelds.freshmeat.net/projects/naim/
Does anybody who actually knows about such things actually use the AOL Client? I sure hope not... The real question (which should have been answered in the blurb) is whether there will be a protocol change or not?
... "Triton" should read "Gaim"
Gaim, my own preferred IM client, is available as a free downloadable win32 exe. It supports just about every protocol (AIM, MSN, Yahoo, jabber, IRC, etc), has tabbed messaging, and also lacks ads.
Since it's gtk2 based, you can apply whatever themes you want to it (and it will also integrate into your desktop that way if you happen to run it under linux). And the free gaim-encryption plugin allows secure messaging as well, in an easy to setup/use interface. In addition to all these features, it's Free, unlike Trillian.
What ever thats not gonna do any better than trillian (http://www.trillian.cc/) I think AOL is just trying to dominate the market AGAIN!
Is it me or does loading gaim screw up people's buddylist? By screwing up, I'm referring more to the order of the buddies, than actually removing buddies.
I've stayed far far away after using it several times and it always happens.
On the other hand, plugins for tabbed messaging and logging already exist. AOL just likes to "upgrade" whenever such a plugin exist and breaks the plugin. I think many of them have just given up seeing that there's a lack of motiviation recently since none of the aim patches support the latest version.
The aim patches I know about include:
* DeadAIM
* middle_man
* AIM+
HD Trailers
People complaining that interfaces will be DMCA'd away and other complaints of interfaces being a security hole. There is no "spyware" installed. AOL has said they will not bundle any more such things. While GAIM and Trillian are great products they are not AOL products and therefore it seems that all AOL are trying to do is improve their member's (paid or otherwise) experience.
Could AOL please find a smaller, less juvenile set of smilies for the next iteration?
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First thing I think of when I read that first sentence is GAIM.
Stupid AOL>
With so many mentions of Trillian and GAIM, I'd just like to point out the third alternative (that was actually around before either of the aforementioned products): Miranda-IM
It's free/oss software, Windows only (unfortunately), and has more plugins than either GAIM or Trillian. Not only can you do the basic stuff (plugins for new protocols and such), you can also entirely replace the interface with one of the many plugins. There's even a plugin that adds PHP as a scripting language.
While it's not the easiest program to get started with (there's a ton of options, even more if you have a lot of plugins installed), once you've got it configured to your liking there's simply no comparison (in my opinion, anyway).
Minimal, fast, native controls, open source. I'd highly recommend checking it out.
http://miranda-im.org
everyday is another shooter.
Personally, I dislike, even hate, tabbed messaging windows. It's wonderful for browsing, but horrible for IMing. I don't want to, if I'm in another window doing real work, have to alt-tab, and then use the mouse or execute another keyboard command to bring up the appropriate IM conversation - I'd wind up giving messages to the wrong people and getting everything all screwed up.
So, all that being said, they should make certain that tabbed IM conversations can be disabled. Surely I'm not the only one that feels this way.
I pity the foo that isn't metasyntactic
it doesn't provide any messaging capabilities itself, I don't find any of its own features that useful, you still have to have an account with each service you want to use
Of course. Why do we need IM aggregators? Because there are so many IM services. How, exactly, does providing yet another incompatible IM service alleviate this problem?
You can disable tabbed windows in gaim rather trivially. I'm not sure if this was always the case.
That's no moon...
There are several clients available, here, here, and here, and there are many others. Hope that helps.
Use an AmericanOnLine InstantMessenger program. Why? -It's easy. I'm swedish.
And If i want ads, I would rather go Google, Since I get ads that might even be interesting.
Besides, It's retarded. The whole client. It's outdated and all. Tho.. I'm sure the average "Joe" will be happy.
I'll stick to the oldest (?) way of chatting (almost).
IRC - Internet Relay Chat, If I'm not entirely wrong.
Maybe it has lack of all theese flashy Voice things, Icons and all that Garbage.
But HEY, It's just text, right? So why make it complicated?
In the Soviet Union, signatures writes you!
http://bitlbee.org, nuff said.
Unfortunately, the win32 GAIM client, at least by default, doesn't integrate well into XP. It looks, well, ugly. The taskbar functionality is lacking (yes, there was a "plugin" to add taskbar functionality to GAIM, but it still leaves much to be desired.)
The fact that I don't use linux means that I don't really care if it's gtk2 based. While there are a couple of programs that may use it, none of these programs really have any appeal to me on a larger scale.
Finally, Trillian is absolutely free. Trillian Pro is the pay for use version, and it adds some features like video chat.
I use Miranda.
It is free, open source, and connects to all 4 major IM networks, Jabber, and IRC.
Does anyone else ever notice that with every new software upgrade, there are a million features they never use? I still use AIM 5.5.3595. I've yet to have any problems with it, or any real reason to upgrade. Will Triton just be the same addition of useless features with a flashy interface that, like many fancy new interfaces, cuts down on functionality?
Oh, and an AOL browser. That ought to be quite a hoot, if it's anything like the AOL ISP-service browser (it saps bandwidth in the matter that a fat child eats ice cream).
I personally don't find the taskbar functionality lacking at all (and the "plugin" comes packaged with gaim). Almost every feature you need is included, or comes as an easy to use plugin. My blurb about gtk2 was intended to show that yes, you can do "skinning" with gaim, and as a bonus, in a way that can interoperate with other applications (which happens to be mostly irrelevant in win32). Your inability to select an appealing theme for your tastes is most certainly not the fault of gtk2 or gaim.
Your complaints make it sound like you have tried gaim in a long time. It has come a long way recently, and you should try it again, in my opinion, before blasting it so much.
And finally, Trillian may be "free", but it is not "Free", as I had posted. For some people, the ability to make changes to the source actually has some usefulness. Plus, you can redistribute it basically however you wish.
highly anticipated features including tabbed messaging and logging
Highly anticipated? Crap, we've had these features in GAIM for a while now.
Guess AOL is behind, as usual...
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"...adds highly anticipated features including tabbed messaging and logging." As far as I can remember I've been using both of those with Gaim.. I feel like my Gentoo system is in the future sometimes; these products from companies don't provide what I use for years (literally; windows still doesn't officially have virtual desktops as seen in gnome/kde/flux/etc. unless longhorn has it and I don't know about it.)
Gentoo Linux - Wouldn't have it any other way. And fuck beta.
Technically (according to AOL themselves), people who have AOL use "AOLIM", not AIM. They also distinguish the two when they give out usage statistics, just like they distinguish ICQ even though they run that too.
Karma: It's all a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap!
Hmm, if you install it with the GTK-wimp theme (and you have theme on) it looks (almost!) just like the rest of your windows apps.
My email addy? should be easy enough.
Will the new one come bundled with Wild Tangent, too?
A/S/L?
I don't speak a sign language, unfortunately.
Does AOL even know what AOL stands for?
Apparently not.
Please toss your hat into the instant messenger war.
http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/1114465942/ 1/AOLDNLD.exe
AOL AIM Triton 0.1.12 Beta
AOL AIM Triton is the next generation release of AOL Instant Messenger. It is an all new user experience with an elegant, tabbed look and feel. New 'Quicknote' feature replaces the initial IM window to provide a snapshot of known contact information about that buddy and give users three choices: launching an IM session, launching an AOL Talk session or sending a mobile text message to a cellular user. The tabbed messaging interface helps users easily transition from text to mobile instant messaging or AOL Talk, and will eventually enable users to launch video IM sessions, share files or images and invite Buddies to play games with one click. A new 'IM Catcher' corrals all messages into a single interface to help users effectively screen and manage their IM sessions with an unlimited number of Buddies.
Give it a try...
I've recently heard of another protocol for sending messages to people who are offline. It seems well tested, and at the moment there are many people using it.
There are several clients available, here, here, and here, and there are many others. Hope that helps.
I figured AOL would have added tabbed chat windows and chat logging a long time ago. AIM is probably one of the last IM clients to implement this common feature. Because of iChat, GAIM, and the Dead AIM extension, there really is no point for this release. They better make it good!
"Instant gratification takes too long." - Carrie Fisher
Miranda IM is a good alternative to Trillian. While the base install doesn't support too much there are several hundred plugins to add what you want. I know that you can get plugins for tabbed messenging, encryption (several types), and just about any messenger service you can think of.
You want this.
http://gaim-extprefs.sourceforge.net/
Were this and the ability to disable file transfer and direct connection built into mainstream GAIM, I'd never look twice at any other client.
<aside>Why the hell do I have to use HTML formatted mode to make URLs into links?</aside>'Skinnable' is shit. No application should EVER be 'skinnable'. Stupidest idea of all time. LOL YEA GUYS I WANT 1 PROGRAM ON MY COMPUTAR TO LOOK AND WORK DIFRENT FROM ALL THE OTHER ONEZ
Idiot use of skins (and the lack of responsiveness that comes with that) aside, though, Trillian has some pretty rad features. I don't use it anymore (mainly because it's too much of a pain in the ass to find working cracks every time they updated it, and i don't think it's good enough to pay for it... on top of the skinning/responsiveness thing), having switched to Miranda now that it isn't completely hideous, but it still has a lot of neat features.
For example, Miranda's emoticons format SUCKS, horribly. Trillian uses XML for almost everything in the interface, including emoticons. (And, i mean, if they're going to go with skins, XML is the least-crappy way.) It's so easy to mess with emoticons in Trillian, it's not even funny. You just copy and paste a line of XML and change a file name or two and you're done. Also it supports animated emoticons and also 'emotisounds'. (All of this can be incredibly annoying, and i don't usually like graphical emoticons for simple stuff like :) and :p, but i do have some inside-joke kind of things with friends that i would love to be able to do in Miranda.)
Trillian also has tons and tons of options for things that you don't find in a lot of other IM clients, like away settings and display settings and formatting options and all kinds of other junk. Miranda gets more of it every time they release a new version, but i don't think it's up to where Trillian is.
Trillian also keeps really on top of the protocol changes, as far as i've seen. They must release a new protocol DLL every day for Miranda, and they still don't have OSCAR support for AIM, it took them ages to get buddy-icon support for some of the protocols (and some of them still don't have it), et cetera. Once they get OSCAR support finished, though, i suppose Miranda will get more popular and they'll be better about adding protocol features.
And another thing that Trillian has over Miranda is the developers' way of thinking. Sometimes they go way too far (my hatred for skins is almost indescribable), but they're closer to the good side of the spectrum than a lot of the Miranda developers are. The Miranda people have this really strict, fascist way of thinking, so much so that if they don't particularly like the idea of something, they won't even add the option. It's not even an arguement. If a developer doesn't like it, you either code it yourself or go find another client. There's a lot of garbage in Trillian that i'd never use, but at least it's there for the people who do need it. :/
I can't stand GAIM, though. Not on Windows, at least.
IM Window - this looks like iChat to me in that the icon is next to the text
General Settings Window - Woahkay.
For context, click Parent.
So do you reccomend GAIM?
Sigs are nice guns
I remember waaayyy back having the odd problem of trillian being locked out of one of the popular protocols and then there'd be a patch to fix it. A game of cat and mouse but in the meantime you couldn't contact your buddies.
Doesn't this still happen? I'm officially an old fart now and don't really IM anybody. The internet is an isolated experience for me now with no realtime communication and I'll wait days sometimes before I actually check my personal email. I found IM getting in the way of whatever I wanted to do so stopped running it.
Now it's just the phone or actually clanging glass and saying 'Cheers!'
Surprised this isnt a big issue. I use ssh for all mail and shell sessions, but none for IM.
Any solutions?
-dave
I NEVER liked AOL...nothing about it. The only thing I use is AIM and that doesn't really have much to do with AOL, not directly anyway. I have Dead AIM on my pc too, but I just added that on a couple months ago. Seriously, it worries me that AOL is trying to do all this stuff. When they can't even handle running a good ISP I don't know how they're going to be able to handle having all these different things. Hopefully this doesn't make AOL as an ISP suffer even more.
Finally! We get rid of that horrible piece of unstylistic, ugly, crappy garbage! You know, in retrospect, I didn't mind it all that much.