Nigga please. Weed is Sched.1 because its an easy charge to lay on minorities and lefties. Try following the Rightwing Corpratist Agenda instead moran.
That was the original impetus that drove the creation of drug laws in the US. Chinese-opium, Hispanic/black-marijuana/cocaine.
Today however both liberals and many, many white middle-aged conservatives use marijuana. At the higher levels the reasons are as I stated in my first post, at street-level cop, it's about having yet another charge on the books available to use as a reason to harass/search/arrest, etc the 'little people' of whatever race or ethnicity if they happen to be guilty of perceived disrespect of cop, or they just need to pad their contact/arrest stats for the next performance review.
Right, it binds to the same receptors, but is not an opiate. It just emulates an opiate, and it won't kill you.
You forgot the important part that's mostly the reason behind this FDA move.
It takes money away from lobbying & contributing pharma companies, health care networks/hospitals, clinics, doctors, and franchise pharmacies. Same reason marijuana is still classified as a Schedule I Narcotic by the FDA.
That, and the billions of dollars in kickbacks to US officials from SA drug cartels hidden in offshore accounts
By definition, non-coin U.S. dollars are a security, as are all other paper bank notes. Coins (actual, physical coins) have some intrinsic value because the raw material has nontrivial value. This is why coins are treated differently by financial law. Bitcoins have no intrinsic value, and thus should be treated no differently than foreign currency, i.e. as securities.
True, but US fiat dollars are judged by a different standard than other securities, and for good reason. If they judged US fiat dollars by the same standards they judge other securities, they'd be investigating the Federal Reserve and people would be going to prison.
Yes, but those people are almost exclusively Progressives and Democrats so Project Veritas is Eeeeviiilll!!!1!! and are very likely Russian spies working for Trump./s
On ICOs as a security: "I believe every ICO I've seen is a security... You can call it a coin but if it functions as a security, it is a security... Those who engage in semantic gymnastics or elaborate re-structuring exercises in an effort to avoid having a coin be a security are squarely in the crosshairs of our enforcement provision."
I don't think it's a security. I can't go somewhere and pay for my coffee by directly handing over 20 shares of BigCorp. I can go places and pay directly using crypto. I know what he's trying to do, but it should be explicitly recognised as a category in its own right rather than "let's pretend it's a classic security"
Exactly. By the metric he's using the US Dollar is a "security" as well. There's also a newer article on/. about a Goldman-Sachs guy saying to expect cryptocurrencies to hit zero value.
Sounds like the fix is in and government and their buddies on Wall St.want to kill cryptocurrencies without *looking* like they're just outright killing them. Mid-term elections are coming up.
Learn some science and find out how wrong you are.
It seems the more we learn about the Earth, the more we realize just how little we really know.
Just recently, for example, alarming rates of sea-ice melt which had been at first blamed on AGW were accidentally discovered by NASA to be the result of a massive magma plume rising from the mantle under the Antarctic, rivaling Yellowstone's potentially super-volcano-class plume.
Humans are not always the cause. How about a little more research before we rush to convict humanity?
I also contend that we, at our current level of scientific knowledge and technology, could not possibly be able to predict the planet's climate 100-200 years out with a level of certainty that would make the risk of the sacrifices people make being useless (or in the case of 'climate engineering' causing massive damage) low enough to be a reasonable and logical decision.
How many critical planetary variables must be tracked/measured, which are they, and to what accuracy must they each be measured in order to predict changes in the global average temperature to within +/- 1C at a point 100 years from now?
You don't know. Nobody knows, not even "climate scientists". We simply do not understand enough about Earth's climate system or the planet itself, not to mention the computing power that would be required to model all the massively-chaotic variables involved on a planet-wide scale.
Nothing wrong with not shitting where you eat, I look forward to more electric vehicles and less air pollution, I want alternate forms of electricity generation where it makes sense from a monetary, engineering, and practicality standpoint. Treating all that as an almost religious crusade attacking any who dare question their dogma as many here do, however, is both illogical and counterproductive. Don't be 'that guy'.
I expect any projects of this magnitude in NY/NJ to have immense constructions cost overruns, constant delays, labor union disputes, slowdowns, strikes, and lawsuits, along with massive corruption and embezzlement. If I were a betting man, I'd lay odds that at least some of these projects will be virtually forever "under construction" and will be sucking the citizens dry of money for decades beyond the original planned completion date.
Which would still block those sites, as well as half the rest of the internet.
You say that like it's a bad thing, or that it would last forever. It would certainly put a lot of pressure on the court and judge issuing such an order. Freedom is not free, there are costs and sacrifices that must be made to both win and keep freedom, far beyond the mere monetary in nature..
things like extra-judicially executing american citizens. negotiating with terrorists, paying terrorists, paying ransoms?
So, you were worried that Barack Obama was going to extra-judicially execute you? You lived for eight years "scared to death" of being extra-judicially executed?
God man, being afraid all the time is no way to live.
Obviously, he's terrified of the consequences for the nation that extra-judicial executions implicate.
But, you knew that. Why deliberately misinterpret his post?
Every POTUS has faults and does bad stuff. HWB GWB, BC, BHO, *all* have done bad stuff.
We need to call out the individual bad actions/decisions and not hand-wave them away just because of the party they belong to, and on the flip side, give credit when something they do/decide works out well regardless of Party.
It's the only way things will det better in America.
Very true, but what you don't get is that it's those very insurers who are telling the CC companies they won't cover these types of losses involving CC/Crypto transactions. The CC companies aren't about to hang their own asses out in the breeze so you can play Amateur Currency Speculator on their dime.
Someone needs to come up with a program or browser extension which when turned on follows random links on each page every few seconds (the extension can learn how long based on your actual browsing patterns), sometimes in new tabs, occasionally closing tabs, and occasionally going to google.com and searching random dictionary words to start the process over again.
Using software to generate false histories is probably prohibited under one of the broad prohibitions in the ToS of your ISP, and, if you happened to be someone that government wanted to harass, might also be construed as knowingly providing false information to a Federal agent (NSA, FBI, etc) either because you're under investigation (but how would you know unless they made contact?) or since it is common knowledge that government agencies spy domestically and collect everything.
It's not like they need much to get warrants these days, even politically-generated, fact-optional, attack dossiers contracted by a political party during an election seems sufficient to garner a Federal warrant.
I think the idea is to set up a system where no one is in complete control.
And that's why governments will work to make certain no such system ever gains traction. Government will insist on being able to track, monitor, and hack into individual user's private data as they do now, with any new system. Just look at how crypto-currencies are faring with various governments.
They'll throw up the usual smokescreen about terrorists and pedos, and it will die stillborn. What, you didn't think they'd simply allow you to walk away from their system of digital surveillance and control, did you?
Snaps are containerised software packages that are simple to create and install. They auto-update and are safe to run. And because they bundle their dependencies, they work on all major Linux systems without modification.
Narrow is exactly the word I'm looking for. You're talking about the depth of sophistication of analysis for CO2e -- honestly, that's a hoary old subject by this point, and comprehensive lifecycle analysis is well understood.
I think we probably agree more than disagree. I think we are each looking at it from a different perspective. Sort of like you and I both looking at a rectangle drawn on the ground standing at different points while you say it's wider than it is tall and I disagree saying that it's taller than it is wide.
At any rate, the study was funded by Mazda, primarily a car maker (and yes, other divisions in other areas of industry) not a research laboratory or university, so they would only budget so much and naturally also look at metrics with their available budget that make their products look good compared to the competition. You and anyone else in a relatively-free country have the liberty to fund, or organize funding, and have a study of your own done.
ICE engines are going to be with us for a good while yet, as energy density and portability are still issues for many regions, especially more remote areas with heavy winters. It's going to take a while for charging stations to make it in numbers out to small obscure County and State roads in places like Nebraska, Wyoming, N. Dakota, etc. In those areas it's hard to beat the energy density and portability of a couple of full 5-gallon gasoline cans in the trunk/truck bed, not to mention the fact that it only takes a matter of seconds to pour a few gallons of gas into a vehicle, which is important when it's -50C outside and you've got a SUV full of kids sitting on the shoulder of the road 20+ miles from the nearest sign of civilization with no cell network coverage and it could be days before another vehicle comes down that road.
I listed a bunch of externalities that they *don't* take account of. They only take account of one: CO2e. That's the whole point of that part of my post. What are the "many" externalities that you think they are taking account of?
But how far back along the chain are externalities assessed for each sub-operation/stage of manufacture, from acquiring/processing the raw materials, to actually building it do they go on each side? Regardless of which or how many metric(s) you choose to measure, how far back through the chain is where "narrow" and "broad" start to have meaning. If you're only assessing externalities from final manufacturing without including all the others from obtaining/processing raw materials, etc etc, that's narrow. They went further, so "narrow" may not be the term you're looking for.
They are defining the scope of "clean" pretty narrowly here to get this win.
Their definition may be many things, but taking into account many of the externalities is hardly "narrow".
I'm not saying their claims are right or wrong, or that the externalities discussed are anything like a comprehensive list, just trying to establish some clarity here.
Here's the problem: what if what the Russians are writing is true, and Facebook is lying?
Except for the fact that's exactly the problem because Russians telling the truth (HRC/DNC/etc) is why all these people are upset and why Russia is now back as enemy #1, whereas if they hadn't revealed embarrassing truths regarding those politically-sensitive topics and people, they'd still be making jokes about the '80s wanting their Cold War back.
Russia has *always* heavily-propagandized the US especially regarding elections. This is distraction from what has actually been revealed and the implications that follow from those revelations.
The wealthy are fleeing California in record numbers.
Just pass a 75% "leaving California" tax to keep the wealthy in, along with a $10,000 "new resident State services expansion" tax to prevent the poor from moving to California. I mean, why not, as long as we're ignoring the rule of law in California anyway?
Hell, Moonbeam should just be honest and rename California "New Venezuela" and declare independence.
Hitler and the Nazi party used gas chambers on what they considered sub-human primates. VW circa 2014 at least does the same. That's quite a correlation.
Actually the Nazis developed the gas chambers because pumping truck exhaust into a packed room was deemed too inefficient.
The Nazis developed the gas chambers and Zyklon-B at the urging of Fabian Socialist like George Bernard Shaw who today would fit under Progressivism.
Waits for the UK to extradite and prosecute Franklin Graham for violating UK "hate speech" laws.
Why would they do that?
I believe AC above was attempting to point out the absurdity of infinite criminal jurisdiction. If Assange, a citizen of another nation, having never taken any actions either within or without the US, to obtain classified materials but were uploaded to WL by another US individual, if regardless of all that he is under the jurisdiction of and punishable under US domestic law, that such covers citizens of another nation within another nation's borders and legal jurisdiction, then the UK (and every other nation) would have every right to enforce their laws on the citizens of any other nations within those nations. Or, is the US the only nation whose legal jurisdiction covers anywhere and anyone in any nation, crosses any national borders, that they decide it does/they do?
We used to have names for those sorts of regimes a few decades ago, but they have seemingly vanished from our lexicon since we've grown fat and lazy and allowed our own nation to become one or more of those names. We have met the enemy and they is us, but we just want someone to hate & blame, and certainly don't want to acknowledge our own responsibility for and role in the current situation which is the only way things will ever get better.
This is what I consider the greatest irony in the debate over how to help the poor and working class. Those who purport to want to help and protect them most also have the lowest opinion of their intellect and capabilities. Those who say they should help themselves do so because they have a higher opinion of the intellect and capability of these people, and believe they can learn how to do a new, better job.
Of course most people have little to no intellect or capabilities, or else they would have made us their leaders-in-perpetuity long ago! -- US Progressive Left
The bigotry and racism of low expectations writ large, fueled by lust for power, ego, and hubris.
If the New York Times and their reporters, who are US corporations and citizens respectively, on US soil, can't be prosecuted for publishing classified documents, by what right does the US have to seek out and prosecute Assange, who was never in the US, was a citizen of a different nation, received the classified data from another person who was the one that had actually stolen the data from the US?
What if it were a US journalist trapped similarly on a foreign visit somewhere by Putin wanting to imprison him for publishing something politically sensitive in the US concerning Russia that Putin said were Russian State secrets? Would you back Putin's position? If not, why would you treat the US's actions differently?
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Nigga please. Weed is Sched.1 because its an easy charge to lay on minorities and lefties. Try following the Rightwing Corpratist Agenda instead moran.
That was the original impetus that drove the creation of drug laws in the US. Chinese-opium, Hispanic/black-marijuana/cocaine.
Today however both liberals and many, many white middle-aged conservatives use marijuana. At the higher levels the reasons are as I stated in my first post, at street-level cop, it's about having yet another charge on the books available to use as a reason to harass/search/arrest, etc the 'little people' of whatever race or ethnicity if they happen to be guilty of perceived disrespect of cop, or they just need to pad their contact/arrest stats for the next performance review.
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Right, it binds to the same receptors, but is not an opiate. It just emulates an opiate, and it won't kill you.
You forgot the important part that's mostly the reason behind this FDA move.
It takes money away from lobbying & contributing pharma companies, health care networks/hospitals, clinics, doctors, and franchise pharmacies. Same reason marijuana is still classified as a Schedule I Narcotic by the FDA.
That, and the billions of dollars in kickbacks to US officials from SA drug cartels hidden in offshore accounts
Always follow the money.
Strat
By definition, non-coin U.S. dollars are a security, as are all other paper bank notes. Coins (actual, physical coins) have some intrinsic value because the raw material has nontrivial value. This is why coins are treated differently by financial law. Bitcoins have no intrinsic value, and thus should be treated no differently than foreign currency, i.e. as securities.
True, but US fiat dollars are judged by a different standard than other securities, and for good reason. If they judged US fiat dollars by the same standards they judge other securities, they'd be investigating the Federal Reserve and people would be going to prison.
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These guys are great, providing video evidence of all sorts of unethical behavior by government/companies:
https://www.projectveritas.com...
People have been fired/charged by their findings.
Yes, but those people are almost exclusively Progressives and Democrats so Project Veritas is Eeeeviiilll!!!1!! and are very likely Russian spies working for Trump. /s
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From TFA:
On ICOs as a security: "I believe every ICO I've seen is a security... You can call it a coin but if it functions as a security, it is a security... Those who engage in semantic gymnastics or elaborate re-structuring exercises in an effort to avoid having a coin be a security are squarely in the crosshairs of our enforcement provision."
I don't think it's a security. I can't go somewhere and pay for my coffee by directly handing over 20 shares of BigCorp. I can go places and pay directly using crypto. I know what he's trying to do, but it should be explicitly recognised as a category in its own right rather than "let's pretend it's a classic security"
Exactly. By the metric he's using the US Dollar is a "security" as well. There's also a newer article on /. about a Goldman-Sachs guy saying to expect cryptocurrencies to hit zero value.
Sounds like the fix is in and government and their buddies on Wall St.want to kill cryptocurrencies without *looking* like they're just outright killing them. Mid-term elections are coming up.
Strat
Learn some science and find out how wrong you are.
It seems the more we learn about the Earth, the more we realize just how little we really know.
Just recently, for example, alarming rates of sea-ice melt which had been at first blamed on AGW were accidentally discovered by NASA to be the result of a massive magma plume rising from the mantle under the Antarctic, rivaling Yellowstone's potentially super-volcano-class plume.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/j...
Humans are not always the cause. How about a little more research before we rush to convict humanity?
I also contend that we, at our current level of scientific knowledge and technology, could not possibly be able to predict the planet's climate 100-200 years out with a level of certainty that would make the risk of the sacrifices people make being useless (or in the case of 'climate engineering' causing massive damage) low enough to be a reasonable and logical decision.
How many critical planetary variables must be tracked/measured, which are they, and to what accuracy must they each be measured in order to predict changes in the global average temperature to within +/- 1C at a point 100 years from now?
You don't know. Nobody knows, not even "climate scientists". We simply do not understand enough about Earth's climate system or the planet itself, not to mention the computing power that would be required to model all the massively-chaotic variables involved on a planet-wide scale.
Nothing wrong with not shitting where you eat, I look forward to more electric vehicles and less air pollution, I want alternate forms of electricity generation where it makes sense from a monetary, engineering, and practicality standpoint. Treating all that as an almost religious crusade attacking any who dare question their dogma as many here do, however, is both illogical and counterproductive. Don't be 'that guy'.
Strat
I expect any projects of this magnitude in NY/NJ to have immense constructions cost overruns, constant delays, labor union disputes, slowdowns, strikes, and lawsuits, along with massive corruption and embezzlement. If I were a betting man, I'd lay odds that at least some of these projects will be virtually forever "under construction" and will be sucking the citizens dry of money for decades beyond the original planned completion date.
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Which would still block those sites, as well as half the rest of the internet.
You say that like it's a bad thing, or that it would last forever. It would certainly put a lot of pressure on the court and judge issuing such an order. Freedom is not free, there are costs and sacrifices that must be made to both win and keep freedom, far beyond the mere monetary in nature..
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Obviously, he's terrified of the consequences for the nation that extra-judicial executions implicate.
But, you knew that. Why deliberately misinterpret his post?
Every POTUS has faults and does bad stuff. HWB GWB, BC, BHO, *all* have done bad stuff.
We need to call out the individual bad actions/decisions and not hand-wave them away just because of the party they belong to, and on the flip side, give credit when something they do/decide works out well regardless of Party.
It's the only way things will det better in America.
Strat
Banks have insurance against defaults.
Very true, but what you don't get is that it's those very insurers who are telling the CC companies they won't cover these types of losses involving CC/Crypto transactions. The CC companies aren't about to hang their own asses out in the breeze so you can play Amateur Currency Speculator on their dime.
Strat
[ Wheres that Fucking AI ] When u need them. Cops are the first job I hope is done away with. Replaced by a robot.... that would be sweet.
It won't happen in the foreseeable future for three reasons:
1. Police Unions
2. Public Distrust Of "Robot Cops"
3. Police Unions
Strat
Someone needs to come up with a program or browser extension which when turned on follows random links on each page every few seconds (the extension can learn how long based on your actual browsing patterns), sometimes in new tabs, occasionally closing tabs, and occasionally going to google.com and searching random dictionary words to start the process over again.
Using software to generate false histories is probably prohibited under one of the broad prohibitions in the ToS of your ISP, and, if you happened to be someone that government wanted to harass, might also be construed as knowingly providing false information to a Federal agent (NSA, FBI, etc) either because you're under investigation (but how would you know unless they made contact?) or since it is common knowledge that government agencies spy domestically and collect everything.
It's not like they need much to get warrants these days, even politically-generated, fact-optional, attack dossiers contracted by a political party during an election seems sufficient to garner a Federal warrant.
Strat
I think the idea is to set up a system where no one is in complete control.
And that's why governments will work to make certain no such system ever gains traction. Government will insist on being able to track, monitor, and hack into individual user's private data as they do now, with any new system. Just look at how crypto-currencies are faring with various governments.
They'll throw up the usual smokescreen about terrorists and pedos, and it will die stillborn. What, you didn't think they'd simply allow you to walk away from their system of digital surveillance and control, did you?
Strat
Snaps are containerised software packages that are simple to create and install. They auto-update and are safe to run. And because they bundle their dependencies, they work on all major Linux systems without modification.
https://snapcraft.io/ [snapcraft.io]
Ah, so they've recreated PC-BSD .PBI packages for Linux!
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! :)
Strat
Narrow is exactly the word I'm looking for. You're talking about the depth of sophistication of analysis for CO2e -- honestly, that's a hoary old subject by this point, and comprehensive lifecycle analysis is well understood.
I think we probably agree more than disagree. I think we are each looking at it from a different perspective. Sort of like you and I both looking at a rectangle drawn on the ground standing at different points while you say it's wider than it is tall and I disagree saying that it's taller than it is wide.
At any rate, the study was funded by Mazda, primarily a car maker (and yes, other divisions in other areas of industry) not a research laboratory or university, so they would only budget so much and naturally also look at metrics with their available budget that make their products look good compared to the competition. You and anyone else in a relatively-free country have the liberty to fund, or organize funding, and have a study of your own done.
ICE engines are going to be with us for a good while yet, as energy density and portability are still issues for many regions, especially more remote areas with heavy winters. It's going to take a while for charging stations to make it in numbers out to small obscure County and State roads in places like Nebraska, Wyoming, N. Dakota, etc. In those areas it's hard to beat the energy density and portability of a couple of full 5-gallon gasoline cans in the trunk/truck bed, not to mention the fact that it only takes a matter of seconds to pour a few gallons of gas into a vehicle, which is important when it's -50C outside and you've got a SUV full of kids sitting on the shoulder of the road 20+ miles from the nearest sign of civilization with no cell network coverage and it could be days before another vehicle comes down that road.
Strat
Que?
I listed a bunch of externalities that they *don't* take account of. They only take account of one: CO2e. That's the whole point of that part of my post. What are the "many" externalities that you think they are taking account of?
But how far back along the chain are externalities assessed for each sub-operation/stage of manufacture, from acquiring/processing the raw materials, to actually building it do they go on each side? Regardless of which or how many metric(s) you choose to measure, how far back through the chain is where "narrow" and "broad" start to have meaning. If you're only assessing externalities from final manufacturing without including all the others from obtaining/processing raw materials, etc etc, that's narrow. They went further, so "narrow" may not be the term you're looking for.
Strat
No human has ever received a large lump sum bonus from a dolphin for a dolphin teaching him dolphinese.
Because dolphins have a saying; "Never try to teach a human to speak Dolphin. It only wastes your time and annoys the human."
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They are defining the scope of "clean" pretty narrowly here to get this win.
Their definition may be many things, but taking into account many of the externalities is hardly "narrow".
I'm not saying their claims are right or wrong, or that the externalities discussed are anything like a comprehensive list, just trying to establish some clarity here.
Strat
Here's the problem: what if what the Russians are writing is true, and Facebook is lying?
Except for the fact that's exactly the problem because Russians telling the truth (HRC/DNC/etc) is why all these people are upset and why Russia is now back as enemy #1, whereas if they hadn't revealed embarrassing truths regarding those politically-sensitive topics and people, they'd still be making jokes about the '80s wanting their Cold War back.
Russia has *always* heavily-propagandized the US especially regarding elections. This is distraction from what has actually been revealed and the implications that follow from those revelations.
Strat
The wealthy are fleeing California in record numbers.
Just pass a 75% "leaving California" tax to keep the wealthy in, along with a $10,000 "new resident State services expansion" tax to prevent the poor from moving to California. I mean, why not, as long as we're ignoring the rule of law in California anyway?
Hell, Moonbeam should just be honest and rename California "New Venezuela" and declare independence.
I'd back such a move. Enthusiastically.
Strat
People are not using as much energy because they're too damned broke to go anywhere or do anything that costs money, so they stay home.
This ain't rocket surgery.
Strat
The Nazis developed the gas chambers and Zyklon-B at the urging of Fabian Socialist like George Bernard Shaw who today would fit under Progressivism.
https://youtu.be/WgpaKkrZex4
https://youtu.be/EacpnsOMPCU
Strat
I believe AC above was attempting to point out the absurdity of infinite criminal jurisdiction. If Assange, a citizen of another nation, having never taken any actions either within or without the US, to obtain classified materials but were uploaded to WL by another US individual, if regardless of all that he is under the jurisdiction of and punishable under US domestic law, that such covers citizens of another nation within another nation's borders and legal jurisdiction, then the UK (and every other nation) would have every right to enforce their laws on the citizens of any other nations within those nations. Or, is the US the only nation whose legal jurisdiction covers anywhere and anyone in any nation, crosses any national borders, that they decide it does/they do?
We used to have names for those sorts of regimes a few decades ago, but they have seemingly vanished from our lexicon since we've grown fat and lazy and allowed our own nation to become one or more of those names. We have met the enemy and they is us, but we just want someone to hate & blame, and certainly don't want to acknowledge our own responsibility for and role in the current situation which is the only way things will ever get better.
Strat
This is what I consider the greatest irony in the debate over how to help the poor and working class. Those who purport to want to help and protect them most also have the lowest opinion of their intellect and capabilities. Those who say they should help themselves do so because they have a higher opinion of the intellect and capability of these people, and believe they can learn how to do a new, better job.
Of course most people have little to no intellect or capabilities, or else they would have made us their leaders-in-perpetuity long ago! -- US Progressive Left
The bigotry and racism of low expectations writ large, fueled by lust for power, ego, and hubris.
Strat
Lordie, that's twisted.
"Twisted"? Really?
Then please explain:
If the New York Times and their reporters, who are US corporations and citizens respectively, on US soil, can't be prosecuted for publishing classified documents, by what right does the US have to seek out and prosecute Assange, who was never in the US, was a citizen of a different nation, received the classified data from another person who was the one that had actually stolen the data from the US?
What if it were a US journalist trapped similarly on a foreign visit somewhere by Putin wanting to imprison him for publishing something politically sensitive in the US concerning Russia that Putin said were Russian State secrets? Would you back Putin's position? If not, why would you treat the US's actions differently?
Strat