If you're producing a short, simple document, Word is up to the task.
If you're looking to do anything long and/or complex, you really have only two choices: FrameMaker or Ventura.
Both kick TeX's ass around the block. Oh, don't get me wrong: there's nothing they do that TeX can't do... except that they do it easily. Ventura, in particular, is to a numeric-controlled milling machine, as Tex is to doing the same job using a bastard file and hand-cranked drill.
And although Opera isn't Open-Source, they're certainly open to ideas. I know that several of the ideas I've had -- show window size is one, IIRC -- have been implemented. It's delightful.:-)
Well, if you live in Canada, you paid a surtax on those CDs, money which is explicitly earmarked for the Canadian equivalent of the RIAA/MPAA.
Which, I believe, means that you're *obligated* to go out and copy some music. You've been penalized for it already.
Indeed, there may be some sort of implicit contract in all this. If I am paying for the privilege of being assumed a crook, am I not obligated to be a crook?
The difference being, back in the 80s-90s, the publishers weren't on the hunt, prosecuting the crackers and pirates. They didn't have the wonderful DMCA and SSCA backing them up. They didn't spend more money on lawyers than they did on creating good content. And they didn't see the writing on the wall.
What we're witnessing is a rat backed into a corner. RIAA recognises that its days are numbered, and it's doing every goddamn thing it can to fight its way out of the corner.
It's beyond mere music piracy. They could live with piracy: they always have.
It's to the point where they can see that artists are going to go independent. And so they're desperately trying to invent a reason for artists to stay with them. "Music protection" seems to be the salespitch they've chosen.
But they're doomed anyway.
Artists don't need the megaexpensive recording studios. These days, most anyone can set up a decent studio for a relatively small investment.
Artists don't need the megaexpensive advertising. These days, anyone can gain popularity via web media. Fansites, mailing lists, word of mouth: it's worked before, it's working now, and it's hella cheaper than MTV.
Artists don't need the distribution chain. They can post to the web. As soon as a good payment system comes along, where the artist can be paid directly and receives most of that payment, the distribution chain is toast.
And artists have recently begun to discover that they can sell out concerts via the net. There's no need to for the megapop media orgy that the old-style companies provided. Word of mouth is doing it.
The writing is on the wall: as soon as the one hiccup is removed -- paying the artists directly, cheaply -- the RIAA is dead. Their *only* hope is to convince artists that music theft is more harmful than the music mafia.
Damn straight! It's this that the alternative OS communities need to realize, once and for all. Focus on the apps, and the masses will beat a path to your door. Focus on the OS, and they'll shrug their shoulders.
...that the education system is in complete shambles, when it becomes necessary to introduce courses like this.
In all likelyhood, they're the equivalent of the underwater soap-carving courses that engineering students take to "satisfy" the arts requirement component of their curriculum.
In the story, who's speaking up about the course? A biology major -- a geek who is apparently too dim to recognize that a broad education is valuable, and has chosen to take a flakey course to satisfy a requisite with minimum effort.
Why on earth are the universities catering to this sort of limited, lazy thinking?
The job of the university should be to create a graduation class of people who are going to lead the advancement of the arts and sciences. To do so, these people are going to require a broad education, one that has challenged them on all fronts and forced them to think creatively and thoughtfully. They need to be people who are eternally curious, doggedly determined, and, above all, brilliant.
Serving up Simpsons swill as some sort of philosophy substitute is not doing anyone a favour.
Perhaps the standards have dropped too low. Maybe you don't have to be particularly smart to enter university any more: you just have to have money. Perhaps there's too much emphasis in the job market on post-secondary degrees. And the past three decade's emphasis on sciences as the be-all and end-all goal of education is certainly at fault: we need more technically-trained people (ie. college-level job training) than we need science/structure-trained people.
"The Simpsons and Philosophy: The D'oh! of Homer," indeed. Next up: "An Overview of Political Philosophies: The Travels of Xena, Warrior Princess."
We need a "Music Competition Act." On-line, off-line, on-air, whatever: the problem is that the music mafia -- let's start calling them by their true name -- have their greasy, pudgy fingers wrapped around the throat of every artist, choking the life out of them.
Y'ever notice how many artists set up independent studios and private record labels? It's because they want ownership of the music they create, control over the production process, and aren't willing to whore themselves out to the mob any longer.
The only ones who stick with the bigname labels seem to be the ones that are just manufactured puppet bands: the boy/girl bands that pump out mindless pap for the gullible teenage market. Without a mobster's hand up their ass, making them perform their puppet moves, these glam-bands wouldn't be able to make a living wage, so they're forced to stick with their masters.
But there are legitimate artists who have been strung up by the puppeteers. Binding contracts that guarantee their whoredom for many years, loss of ownership of image and name, mounting debt because the mafia loaned them the money to become successful and demand payment back.
We need a Music Competition Act that cuts the hands off the music mafia. It's currently not plausible, if not completely impossible, to break into the music market without sponsorship of the mafiasio. Let's change that. Let's make it so that artists don't have to whore themselves to make a buck.
"(like having a 2000 and a 2001 Honda both explode in flames under appropriate conditions)"
Rather, isn't it more like having a 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, and 1977 Ford explode in flames under appropriate conditions. This, despite Ford knowing fully well during that entire eight-year period, in which 500 people died in their burning vehicles, that a few simple changes to the design would save lives.
Honda Civics just aren't a good analogy in this case. The Ford Pinto is, especially what with Ford having used a cost-benefit analysis to decide that letting people die had a better cost-benefit ratio than fixing the flaw.
LOL! That's brilliant. But why hide it in the case? Put it up on the wall, make it a component of some funky water fountain or light fountain, suspend it from the ceiling... it'd be too pretty to just stuff in a bland box!
You used to be able to buy piezo fans for the old Mac Classic (read the list near the bottom of the page).
IOW, piezo fans have been around since the mid-to-late 80's. Now, yes, I'll admit that they weren't very efficient (as in, they didn't move a lot of air)... but the concept has been there for eons.
"It's FBI in your home, but then again, its better than terrorists in your mall."
Those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it. Read up on the Reichstag. An evil man with a fondness for jackboots and genocide convinced people like you to think the way you're thinking. Inevitably, it all ends in tears.
Footnote: in one of the proposed remedies against MS for its abuse of monopoly power, there was talk of opening the source for a bunch of their stuff... except for things that the government would choose to explicitly not allow open-sourcing.
One can readily see that as meaning the government gets to keep its backdoors and keyloggers and suchlike from prying eyes.
Er, no. Because what *YOU* think about the evil of oil and gas doesn't count. Not one little bit. It's what Bush and his oil cronies think that counts... and what they think is that war and mid-East upset is well worth the cost. After all, not only do they get rich off the war itself, they get rich off the world's largest oil reserves, which just happen to require a pipeline to run through Afghanistan.
As long as your political system is owned and run by megacorporations, you can not reduce or eliminate your dependency on oil.
First "teh"... surprisingly, Jerry Pournelle, in Space digest V2#108.
First true Usenet post using "teh" -- a post to rec.cook, about brewing, "When the must is cool, (70 - 75 degrees F) add teh pectic enzyme and wine yeast."
LOL! I think I found the first "typical" alt.sex message... after a bunch of admin messages and cries that the world would come to an end if the group were propagated, and so on... we get the first posting from someone talking about sex, and he gets flamed to death immediately!
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In article RONIE@cup.portal.com writes:
>I had What is called wet dreams when I
>was younger. If I was dreaming of a
>sexual encounter and I actually put
>it into the woman in the dream I would
>cum in my pants. I always woke up just
>then.
[35 lines of my entire follow-up to Elizabeth A Lear's article deleted]
That's very nice. I am glad you told us this. We really, REALLY care.
But why the fuck didn't you (a) SIGH your article, (b) make sure that the
quotes included in your article are somehow bracketed and (c) delete or
attribute *MY* article?!
Please learn how to use your editor and your NEWS reader. If it helps, I
will e-mail VI short reference guides, RN news reader sources and references
to widely available books that teach how to use VI and NEWS to RONIE, other
PORTAL users who insist on their inability to use a NEWS reader and editors
and, more important, the PORTAL management and administration.
...How to find the very first posts of a newsgroup? As in, how does one track down the first post to alt.sex? (I suspect it's the mkgroup command... so maybe I'll want to see the first dozen posts to alt.sex...)
Wish I could remember my student ID from a dozen years ago...
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So he's an incompetent Word user. He hasn't invested the time into learning to use Word, that you invested into learning LaTex.
So what was your point?
If you're producing a short, simple document, Word is up to the task.
If you're looking to do anything long and/or complex, you really have only two choices: FrameMaker or Ventura.
Both kick TeX's ass around the block. Oh, don't get me wrong: there's nothing they do that TeX can't do... except that they do it easily. Ventura, in particular, is to a numeric-controlled milling machine, as Tex is to doing the same job using a bastard file and hand-cranked drill.
We don't have to create our own diamonds: we mine them. (Go here to skip the Flash intro.)
Also, I don't think we've got stem cell restrictions.
And although Opera isn't Open-Source, they're certainly open to ideas. I know that several of the ideas I've had -- show window size is one, IIRC -- have been implemented. It's delightful. :-)
Well, if you live in Canada, you paid a surtax on those CDs, money which is explicitly earmarked for the Canadian equivalent of the RIAA/MPAA.
Which, I believe, means that you're *obligated* to go out and copy some music. You've been penalized for it already.
Indeed, there may be some sort of implicit contract in all this. If I am paying for the privilege of being assumed a crook, am I not obligated to be a crook?
The difference being, back in the 80s-90s, the publishers weren't on the hunt, prosecuting the crackers and pirates. They didn't have the wonderful DMCA and SSCA backing them up. They didn't spend more money on lawyers than they did on creating good content. And they didn't see the writing on the wall.
What we're witnessing is a rat backed into a corner. RIAA recognises that its days are numbered, and it's doing every goddamn thing it can to fight its way out of the corner.
It's beyond mere music piracy. They could live with piracy: they always have.
It's to the point where they can see that artists are going to go independent. And so they're desperately trying to invent a reason for artists to stay with them. "Music protection" seems to be the salespitch they've chosen.
But they're doomed anyway.
Artists don't need the megaexpensive recording studios. These days, most anyone can set up a decent studio for a relatively small investment.
Artists don't need the megaexpensive advertising. These days, anyone can gain popularity via web media. Fansites, mailing lists, word of mouth: it's worked before, it's working now, and it's hella cheaper than MTV.
Artists don't need the distribution chain. They can post to the web. As soon as a good payment system comes along, where the artist can be paid directly and receives most of that payment, the distribution chain is toast.
And artists have recently begun to discover that they can sell out concerts via the net. There's no need to for the megapop media orgy that the old-style companies provided. Word of mouth is doing it.
The writing is on the wall: as soon as the one hiccup is removed -- paying the artists directly, cheaply -- the RIAA is dead. Their *only* hope is to convince artists that music theft is more harmful than the music mafia.
Damn straight! It's this that the alternative OS communities need to realize, once and for all. Focus on the apps, and the masses will beat a path to your door. Focus on the OS, and they'll shrug their shoulders.
...that the education system is in complete shambles, when it becomes necessary to introduce courses like this.
In all likelyhood, they're the equivalent of the underwater soap-carving courses that engineering students take to "satisfy" the arts requirement component of their curriculum.
In the story, who's speaking up about the course? A biology major -- a geek who is apparently too dim to recognize that a broad education is valuable, and has chosen to take a flakey course to satisfy a requisite with minimum effort.
Why on earth are the universities catering to this sort of limited, lazy thinking?
The job of the university should be to create a graduation class of people who are going to lead the advancement of the arts and sciences. To do so, these people are going to require a broad education, one that has challenged them on all fronts and forced them to think creatively and thoughtfully. They need to be people who are eternally curious, doggedly determined, and, above all, brilliant.
Serving up Simpsons swill as some sort of philosophy substitute is not doing anyone a favour.
Perhaps the standards have dropped too low. Maybe you don't have to be particularly smart to enter university any more: you just have to have money. Perhaps there's too much emphasis in the job market on post-secondary degrees. And the past three decade's emphasis on sciences as the be-all and end-all goal of education is certainly at fault: we need more technically-trained people (ie. college-level job training) than we need science/structure-trained people.
"The Simpsons and Philosophy: The D'oh! of Homer," indeed. Next up: "An Overview of Political Philosophies: The Travels of Xena, Warrior Princess."
Bah.
Hell with that.
We need a "Music Competition Act." On-line, off-line, on-air, whatever: the problem is that the music mafia -- let's start calling them by their true name -- have their greasy, pudgy fingers wrapped around the throat of every artist, choking the life out of them.
Y'ever notice how many artists set up independent studios and private record labels? It's because they want ownership of the music they create, control over the production process, and aren't willing to whore themselves out to the mob any longer.
The only ones who stick with the bigname labels seem to be the ones that are just manufactured puppet bands: the boy/girl bands that pump out mindless pap for the gullible teenage market. Without a mobster's hand up their ass, making them perform their puppet moves, these glam-bands wouldn't be able to make a living wage, so they're forced to stick with their masters.
But there are legitimate artists who have been strung up by the puppeteers. Binding contracts that guarantee their whoredom for many years, loss of ownership of image and name, mounting debt because the mafia loaned them the money to become successful and demand payment back.
We need a Music Competition Act that cuts the hands off the music mafia. It's currently not plausible, if not completely impossible, to break into the music market without sponsorship of the mafiasio. Let's change that. Let's make it so that artists don't have to whore themselves to make a buck.
"(like having a 2000 and a 2001 Honda both explode in flames under appropriate conditions)"
Rather, isn't it more like having a 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, and 1977 Ford explode in flames under appropriate conditions. This, despite Ford knowing fully well during that entire eight-year period, in which 500 people died in their burning vehicles, that a few simple changes to the design would save lives.
Honda Civics just aren't a good analogy in this case. The Ford Pinto is, especially what with Ford having used a cost-benefit analysis to decide that letting people die had a better cost-benefit ratio than fixing the flaw.
LOL! That's brilliant. But why hide it in the case? Put it up on the wall, make it a component of some funky water fountain or light fountain, suspend it from the ceiling... it'd be too pretty to just stuff in a bland box!
Here's a picture of an old-style piezo fan
You used to be able to buy piezo fans for the old Mac Classic (read the list near the bottom of the page).
IOW, piezo fans have been around since the mid-to-late 80's. Now, yes, I'll admit that they weren't very efficient (as in, they didn't move a lot of air)... but the concept has been there for eons.
This will also be the point at which they blame "the insecure Internet" and introduce their own proprietary replacement for TCP/IP.
And thus the beginning of the MSNet. Good bye Internet. Details at 11.
"It's FBI in your home, but then again, its better than terrorists in your mall."
Those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it. Read up on the Reichstag. An evil man with a fondness for jackboots and genocide convinced people like you to think the way you're thinking. Inevitably, it all ends in tears.
"If MS intentionally and with clear thought..."
Footnote: in one of the proposed remedies against MS for its abuse of monopoly power, there was talk of opening the source for a bunch of their stuff... except for things that the government would choose to explicitly not allow open-sourcing.
One can readily see that as meaning the government gets to keep its backdoors and keyloggers and suchlike from prying eyes.
"You have to ask yourself..."
Er, no. Because what *YOU* think about the evil of oil and gas doesn't count. Not one little bit. It's what Bush and his oil cronies think that counts... and what they think is that war and mid-East upset is well worth the cost. After all, not only do they get rich off the war itself, they get rich off the world's largest oil reserves, which just happen to require a pipeline to run through Afghanistan.
As long as your political system is owned and run by megacorporations, you can not reduce or eliminate your dependency on oil.
And I immediately realize, as I click the post button, that you may be trolling. If so, it was subtle, but endlessly cheezy.
Troll. He was angling to get a response of indignant, horrified "How can you possibly suggest such a thing" responses.
That, or he was being funny. Sometimes it's hard to tell.
Wasn't a flame. A flame would be "you are all a bunch of rip off hacks who could not tell the end of a spoon from their own ass."
First "teh" ... surprisingly, Jerry Pournelle, in Space digest V2#108.
First true Usenet post using "teh" -- a post to rec.cook, about brewing, "When the must is cool, (70 - 75 degrees F) add teh pectic enzyme and wine yeast."
You might as well be asking how God is, why he is infamous, or why he is such a big deal.
Speaking of which, why do you want to know how kibo is?
Earliest use of IANAL
Is this it?
Try this, too.
LOL! I think I found the first "typical" alt.sex message ... after a bunch of admin messages and cries that the world would come to an end if the group were propagated, and so on... we get the first posting from someone talking about sex, and he gets flamed to death immediately!
=======
In article RONIE@cup.portal.com writes:
>I had What is called wet dreams when I
>was younger. If I was dreaming of a
>sexual encounter and I actually put
>it into the woman in the dream I would
>cum in my pants. I always woke up just
>then.
[35 lines of my entire follow-up to Elizabeth A Lear's article deleted]
That's very nice. I am glad you told us this. We really, REALLY care.
But why the fuck didn't you (a) SIGH your article, (b) make sure that the
quotes included in your article are somehow bracketed and (c) delete or
attribute *MY* article?!
Please learn how to use your editor and your NEWS reader. If it helps, I
will e-mail VI short reference guides, RN news reader sources and references
to widely available books that teach how to use VI and NEWS to RONIE, other
PORTAL users who insist on their inability to use a NEWS reader and editors
and, more important, the PORTAL management and administration.
"No regrets, no apologies" -- Ronald Reagan
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(213)337-5230UUCP:...!{trwrb|ucla-cs}!lcc!oleg
DISCLAIMER: I speak for myself only.
Perhaps this works: it's Gene's announcement that he's gone off and created the group...
Creation of Alt.Sex
Goodness, what unnecessary controversy!
...How to find the very first posts of a newsgroup? As in, how does one track down the first post to alt.sex? (I suspect it's the mkgroup command... so maybe I'll want to see the first dozen posts to alt.sex...)
Wish I could remember my student ID from a dozen years ago...