NY: Trying to save the planet (albeit maybe a little too agressively?) TN: F*** THE PLANET! And how dare you even consider trying to do anything to protect it.
How about freedom to do what you want (the American way), but we tax single use plastic bags at a nickel a piece. Aldi charges 10 cents for an big heavy paper bag and like a quarter for those heavy reusable plastic bags and most consumers make the decision to re-use their own bags or stock boxes from the shelves. I wish every other grocery store would take a hint about the quarter deposit. Amazing what people will do to get their quarter back, but you still have the freedom to walk away from it if you want.
Yes! I'd prefer to be able to choose my peers though, so anonymous isn't really an issue. Part of what I loved about crashplan was that I could backup my parents computer, my laptop, and my office computer to my server. If something happened, I don't need to wait hours, days, weeks, etc for the backup to download. I could simply go to the server which i had physical access to, extract the backup files to an external hard drive and re-attach them to the destination machine.
Completely agree. I use it for peer to peer backup. I have plenty of access to computers in remote locations. I'd even buy a license for the software for a reasonable cost to continue this model. Anyone have any recommendations for good easy to use peer to peer backup with client side encryption? First person to recommend an rsync script gets smacked in the face with a large trout.
It's not that impressive. I launched them when I was a kid. The 2 stage models were a lot more prone to problems though, so I mostly just played with the smaller C engines which were more common and cheaper.
The Motorola Atrix. I had it. It failed because 1) The "full desktop and office suite" was actually just a full version of Firefox on android. Everything else was just fullscreen apps. The 'office suite' was just google docs in firefox, which was less than ideal over a mobile connection, and offline docs didn't exist at the time. 2) The laptop doc was $300. Phones were still not that powerful yet at the time, and for that price I could buy a real laptop. I bought mine when they had a fire sale at $50. 3) The Atrix never got updated past 2.2, and had an encrypted bootloader. With a dual core processor and 1GB RAM at the time it wasn't bad, but it needed the software updates and I couldn't even install CyanogenMod on it.
Where it was great though, 1) The dock provided a battery, keyboard, mouse, and screen. No processing capabilities. Nothing to really grow out of date, if it had been more universal to the next line of phones. 2) When you switched between doc and laptop mode, your open browsers and apps could either stay in that mode or be accessed to launch in the new mode. 3) ALL Android apps could be launched full screen on the laptop. I used this to watch netflix a fair amount. 4) No data sync!
Remembering the good parts, I have funded the superbook project on kickstarter (over). http://www.sentio.com/ With the open design not bound to a specific hardware, and the improvements in phone hardware over the years, I can't wait to get this thing!
Absolutely agree, this is why that proposal was so incredibly stupid. It's UBI only made up the difference between your salary and the proposed UBI, meaning if you earned less than the UBI, you got nothing. If you earned just a little more, then you got very little, and might as well give up your job to earn less. I can't find anything stating the salary I stated at $75,000, but I recall at one point reading one proposal that said that. I may have gotten that figure from a friend looking at a proposal with 2 adults and 2 kids vs his single salary home, where as a well paid engineer he still might as well stay home and play games rather than work. I absolutely agree that UBI would only work if many people would still see benefit to doing additional work. Unfortunately automation isn't to that point yet, so we still need people to do the boring work.
I really enjoyed reading Manna, but it did just cover one extreme vs another, and at no point covered how a transition period might occur under the alternative, utopian view.
Personally I think *most* humans are basically good, and I question whether the outliers are worth the energy expended on managing them. It's popular to assume that anyone living in the streets is there of their own poor choices. Why not make that more likely? Why do we have to control what they do with it? That's kind of the thing about a UBI, it gives the freedom back to the individual. Let's be real, as we have a more automated society, some people are not a positive net value to society. We either let them starve in the street, in which case they will resort to crime to survive, or we pay them to stay out of the way and play video games and do drugs. Some people will do nothing, but others will go to school, or write books, or start a lawn car service that provides income in the summer and I agree the children issue is complicated. I would say a good solution is not provide any allowance to a child under 18, or 16, or whatever arbitrary limit you set, but make school lunches free for all (if we have UBI already, why not?). UBI wouldn't disregard social services. Again I say ignore their behavior. I'm all about giving people opportunity, not controlling what they do with it. The problem I see now is so many people never have that opportunity, because they never get to build up the safety net to gamble on a job change or school. Even a change in jobs can sometimes result in such a large gap between last and first paycheck some people can't do it.
Sure, if it offered you a ridiculous income. I would too. But if it was just at the poverty level, maybe enough to have a cheap studio apartment and meals of peanut butter jelly and ramen, I would definitely keep my job. You probably would too. The catch is you have to find that line where it's a good safety net but still desirable and possible to benefit from additional work.
It's pretty simple. You can't make the UBI be comfortable for the 99%. It should be "enough to survive", not $5000/month. Switzerland tried that with a $75K year minimum and it was shot down at the polls in overwhelming numbers. That is way too much money, and the fact that until you find a job that exceeds that you get no benefit means very few people would have incentive to work. Even if I do make more than that, why would I work 40 hour weeks for 48+ weeks a year for a mere few thousand dollars extra? I sure wouldn't.
But let's adjust that, lets give everyone the poverty level. Sure, maybe you can afford rent in a studio, or have a room mate. Maybe you can eat cheap, but you can't buy anything of luxury. Yeah, some people will take that one bedroom studio, ramen, and a bag of pot and an World of Warcraft subscription. Fine, they're out of the way and not committing crime, they weren't motivated to start with and arguably provide little value to society, and now they're out of the way and not resorting to crime for 'easy money'.
But single mom Jane can now afford to go to school and just work part time. Poor orphan kid can go to school when he turns 18, instead of just being dumped on the streets to figure out life on his own because he aged out of the social care for children. Abused uber driver can afford to quit and get a better job. Incredibly smart but poor entreprenuer can afford to take time to build out his idea and make a million dollar business. Yes, these are all hypotheticals, but Finland is testing that right now. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/universal-basic-income-finland-ubi-test-scheme-experiment-a7211241.html)
The thing is, a family father trying to provide for his family needs to see benefit from going to work as a janitor. Not everyone can be an engineer, and lets face it at some point even that job will be replaced by automation. Now he gets that UBI, but when he goes to work he still makes his family's life better. Sure, maybe he's taxed at 50%, but he still benefits, so he does a job that nobody else wants to do.
Let's face it, all minimum wage is is a UBI that is only applied to people lucky enough to get jobs, and it encourages companies to not offer some jobs in the first place, or try to automate them away as fast as possible. And then by requiring benefits ONLY to people working over so many hours just ensures they don't let people work over that many hours, and hire 2 people instead of 1. Is it bad to spread the wealth over 2 people instead of 1? Probably not, for the executives of the world. 10 people making $100K is arguably much better than 1 person making $1 million and 9 people starving.
In order to get to a UBI, the first thing we have to accept is that UBI doesn't mean you get everything taken care of. It means you can survive while you try to better yourself, or you can stay out of the way. We already do this with various food stamp, rent assistance, child care credits, and scholarships, but the problem is the beurocratic overhead, stigma, and it's hard to get everything to line up to where you can actually get out of the dependency loop. Yes people do it, but can we make things better? UBI might be a bad answer. Finland will tell us soon. Right now we're stuck in a loop of doing things the way we do them because that's the way we've always done them, and that may not be the right mindset.
I have a OnePlus 3, and I agree, the only reason I upgraded was because I broke my OnePlus One. I truly can't speak to any significant upgrades. The fingerprint sensor is nice. Oxygen OS is a fine alternative to Cyanogen. But the One is still a good enough phone even almost 2 years later. Maybe bad for their business, but great for their customers and they don't explode!
YEAH! How dare anybody ever attempt to make a living from their years of work while not forcing anything on you or charging you a dime for it. They should continue to host the servers, build environments, and provide the download bandwidth as well as do all the work out of their own pocket forever!
It is true they don't require Google Play Services, that is just an option. They are based on AOSP (Android Open Source Project), which is completely "Google free" (accepting the fact that Android itself is an open sourced Google project). Cyanogen has been commercially released on the OnePlus One with full Google Play Services and has started promoting Microsoft Bing services and Cortana, but nothing tries to prevent you from using the ecosystem of your choice whether that's Bing, Google, Amazon, or pure open source/free.
How is Cyanogen hostile to the Google ecosystem? It's not bundled in due to legal restrictions placed by Google, but it does absolutely nothing to block or inhibit use of it, and in fact nearly all of the guides on Cyanogen's own website includes the steps needed to load the Google ecosystem. Amazon, on the other hand, does make it difficult to add Google Apps, including restrictions on sideloading.
I'm in 2 clubs and 2 volunteer organizations. Guess how 3 of them communicate? Run a business? You probably want to be on Facebook, especially if it's any kind of recreation business. E-mail groups? Most people don't read their e-mail, and it's HORRIBLE for conversation. A forum on a website? Great, have that, but now I have to fight spam bots and nobody EVER remembers their damn username or password. Using a third party hosted forum that deals with a lot of that for me? Still ads. Even on a private server, I use facebook and google authentication. It fights most of the spam and deals with password issues for me.
And you're right, a lot of my friends aren't friends that would come bail me out of jail or help me move, but a lot of them would offer me a couch if I was traveling through their area, and have when I posted my travels. I wound up in another country and get a message from an old "friend" as you would say that he is also there that same week. Haven't seen each other in 10 years, probably never would have met again in our lives but because of Facebook we ended up meeting for dinner and having a great time.
I know it's not popular to like Facebook, but it doesn't have to be just political BS and farmville. Facebook actually offers pretty good tools to tune it to what you want it to be, so just like in life you can either whine and moan about what's dealt to you, or you can put in a little effort and make it more to your liking.
Monster? Please. . . use a Diamond HDMI cable! Not only will you have the fastest in home wifi, your wifi will be ultra HD 4K 3D at 240Hz with the more Gee-Bees! Also available in white and gold.
That has never been proven! How dare you drag a theoretically innocent man's name through the mud just because it passes Occam's razor and is the only explanation to the mystery that makes any sense! GOOD DAY TO YOU, SIR!
You're right, all of those jobs will still exist. Just as a horse shoe ferrier, clock maker, shoemaker, taylor, and even the farmer still exist today. The difference is that all of those jobs are fractions of a percent of what they were. Some of those jobs used to sustain significant portions of the country. Every town of a any size at all had those people. Now, a lot of people don't even know what those jobs are. Yes, they still exist, but automation has replaced most of them except for a few niche specialists.
Stop producing people. The population will decline to match the number of available jobs.
Except people with no money for entertainment, education, and birth control and a lot of time on their hands tend to do things that are free and fun a lot. And a lot of those activities create more people (due to our outrages over providing birth control).
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NY: Trying to save the planet (albeit maybe a little too agressively?)
TN: F*** THE PLANET! And how dare you even consider trying to do anything to protect it.
How about freedom to do what you want (the American way), but we tax single use plastic bags at a nickel a piece. Aldi charges 10 cents for an big heavy paper bag and like a quarter for those heavy reusable plastic bags and most consumers make the decision to re-use their own bags or stock boxes from the shelves. I wish every other grocery store would take a hint about the quarter deposit. Amazing what people will do to get their quarter back, but you still have the freedom to walk away from it if you want.
Yes! I'd prefer to be able to choose my peers though, so anonymous isn't really an issue. Part of what I loved about crashplan was that I could backup my parents computer, my laptop, and my office computer to my server. If something happened, I don't need to wait hours, days, weeks, etc for the backup to download. I could simply go to the server which i had physical access to, extract the backup files to an external hard drive and re-attach them to the destination machine.
Completely agree. I use it for peer to peer backup. I have plenty of access to computers in remote locations. I'd even buy a license for the software for a reasonable cost to continue this model. Anyone have any recommendations for good easy to use peer to peer backup with client side encryption? First person to recommend an rsync script gets smacked in the face with a large trout.
It's not that impressive. I launched them when I was a kid. The 2 stage models were a lot more prone to problems though, so I mostly just played with the smaller C engines which were more common and cheaper.
Those poor mothers. . . .
The Motorola Atrix. I had it.
It failed because
1) The "full desktop and office suite" was actually just a full version of Firefox on android. Everything else was just fullscreen apps. The 'office suite' was just google docs in firefox, which was less than ideal over a mobile connection, and offline docs didn't exist at the time.
2) The laptop doc was $300. Phones were still not that powerful yet at the time, and for that price I could buy a real laptop. I bought mine when they had a fire sale at $50.
3) The Atrix never got updated past 2.2, and had an encrypted bootloader. With a dual core processor and 1GB RAM at the time it wasn't bad, but it needed the software updates and I couldn't even install CyanogenMod on it.
Where it was great though,
1) The dock provided a battery, keyboard, mouse, and screen. No processing capabilities. Nothing to really grow out of date, if it had been more universal to the next line of phones.
2) When you switched between doc and laptop mode, your open browsers and apps could either stay in that mode or be accessed to launch in the new mode.
3) ALL Android apps could be launched full screen on the laptop. I used this to watch netflix a fair amount.
4) No data sync!
Remembering the good parts, I have funded the superbook project on kickstarter (over). http://www.sentio.com/
With the open design not bound to a specific hardware, and the improvements in phone hardware over the years, I can't wait to get this thing!
Absolutely agree, this is why that proposal was so incredibly stupid. It's UBI only made up the difference between your salary and the proposed UBI, meaning if you earned less than the UBI, you got nothing. If you earned just a little more, then you got very little, and might as well give up your job to earn less. I can't find anything stating the salary I stated at $75,000, but I recall at one point reading one proposal that said that. I may have gotten that figure from a friend looking at a proposal with 2 adults and 2 kids vs his single salary home, where as a well paid engineer he still might as well stay home and play games rather than work. I absolutely agree that UBI would only work if many people would still see benefit to doing additional work. Unfortunately automation isn't to that point yet, so we still need people to do the boring work.
I really enjoyed reading Manna, but it did just cover one extreme vs another, and at no point covered how a transition period might occur under the alternative, utopian view.
Personally I think *most* humans are basically good, and I question whether the outliers are worth the energy expended on managing them.
It's popular to assume that anyone living in the streets is there of their own poor choices. Why not make that more likely?
Why do we have to control what they do with it? That's kind of the thing about a UBI, it gives the freedom back to the individual. Let's be real, as we have a more automated society, some people are not a positive net value to society. We either let them starve in the street, in which case they will resort to crime to survive, or we pay them to stay out of the way and play video games and do drugs. Some people will do nothing, but others will go to school, or write books, or start a lawn car service that provides income in the summer and
I agree the children issue is complicated. I would say a good solution is not provide any allowance to a child under 18, or 16, or whatever arbitrary limit you set, but make school lunches free for all (if we have UBI already, why not?). UBI wouldn't disregard social services.
Again I say ignore their behavior. I'm all about giving people opportunity, not controlling what they do with it. The problem I see now is so many people never have that opportunity, because they never get to build up the safety net to gamble on a job change or school. Even a change in jobs can sometimes result in such a large gap between last and first paycheck some people can't do it.
They migrated it to hangouts. If you used hangouts MMS has worked since 2014, complete with group messaging and responses.
Sure, if it offered you a ridiculous income. I would too. But if it was just at the poverty level, maybe enough to have a cheap studio apartment and meals of peanut butter jelly and ramen, I would definitely keep my job. You probably would too. The catch is you have to find that line where it's a good safety net but still desirable and possible to benefit from additional work.
It's pretty simple. You can't make the UBI be comfortable for the 99%. It should be "enough to survive", not $5000/month. Switzerland tried that with a $75K year minimum and it was shot down at the polls in overwhelming numbers. That is way too much money, and the fact that until you find a job that exceeds that you get no benefit means very few people would have incentive to work. Even if I do make more than that, why would I work 40 hour weeks for 48+ weeks a year for a mere few thousand dollars extra? I sure wouldn't.
But let's adjust that, lets give everyone the poverty level. Sure, maybe you can afford rent in a studio, or have a room mate. Maybe you can eat cheap, but you can't buy anything of luxury. Yeah, some people will take that one bedroom studio, ramen, and a bag of pot and an World of Warcraft subscription. Fine, they're out of the way and not committing crime, they weren't motivated to start with and arguably provide little value to society, and now they're out of the way and not resorting to crime for 'easy money'.
But single mom Jane can now afford to go to school and just work part time. Poor orphan kid can go to school when he turns 18, instead of just being dumped on the streets to figure out life on his own because he aged out of the social care for children. Abused uber driver can afford to quit and get a better job. Incredibly smart but poor entreprenuer can afford to take time to build out his idea and make a million dollar business. Yes, these are all hypotheticals, but Finland is testing that right now. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/universal-basic-income-finland-ubi-test-scheme-experiment-a7211241.html)
The thing is, a family father trying to provide for his family needs to see benefit from going to work as a janitor. Not everyone can be an engineer, and lets face it at some point even that job will be replaced by automation. Now he gets that UBI, but when he goes to work he still makes his family's life better. Sure, maybe he's taxed at 50%, but he still benefits, so he does a job that nobody else wants to do.
Let's face it, all minimum wage is is a UBI that is only applied to people lucky enough to get jobs, and it encourages companies to not offer some jobs in the first place, or try to automate them away as fast as possible. And then by requiring benefits ONLY to people working over so many hours just ensures they don't let people work over that many hours, and hire 2 people instead of 1. Is it bad to spread the wealth over 2 people instead of 1? Probably not, for the executives of the world. 10 people making $100K is arguably much better than 1 person making $1 million and 9 people starving.
In order to get to a UBI, the first thing we have to accept is that UBI doesn't mean you get everything taken care of. It means you can survive while you try to better yourself, or you can stay out of the way. We already do this with various food stamp, rent assistance, child care credits, and scholarships, but the problem is the beurocratic overhead, stigma, and it's hard to get everything to line up to where you can actually get out of the dependency loop. Yes people do it, but can we make things better? UBI might be a bad answer. Finland will tell us soon. Right now we're stuck in a loop of doing things the way we do them because that's the way we've always done them, and that may not be the right mindset.
They're still easy to root and put CyanogenMod on. But you'll lose mobile payments with an unsigned phone OS. It's a trade off.
I have a OnePlus 3, and I agree, the only reason I upgraded was because I broke my OnePlus One. I truly can't speak to any significant upgrades. The fingerprint sensor is nice. Oxygen OS is a fine alternative to Cyanogen. But the One is still a good enough phone even almost 2 years later. Maybe bad for their business, but great for their customers and they don't explode!
So, Whitespace is a bad language? Back to school I go. . . .
YEAH! How dare anybody ever attempt to make a living from their years of work while not forcing anything on you or charging you a dime for it. They should continue to host the servers, build environments, and provide the download bandwidth as well as do all the work out of their own pocket forever!
It is true they don't require Google Play Services, that is just an option. They are based on AOSP (Android Open Source Project), which is completely "Google free" (accepting the fact that Android itself is an open sourced Google project). Cyanogen has been commercially released on the OnePlus One with full Google Play Services and has started promoting Microsoft Bing services and Cortana, but nothing tries to prevent you from using the ecosystem of your choice whether that's Bing, Google, Amazon, or pure open source/free.
https://www.kickstarter.com/pr...
They don't plug into your phone, but they do plug into yet another battery, that can be charged while you're running on the built in batteries.
How is Cyanogen hostile to the Google ecosystem? It's not bundled in due to legal restrictions placed by Google, but it does absolutely nothing to block or inhibit use of it, and in fact nearly all of the guides on Cyanogen's own website includes the steps needed to load the Google ecosystem. Amazon, on the other hand, does make it difficult to add Google Apps, including restrictions on sideloading.
I'm in 2 clubs and 2 volunteer organizations. Guess how 3 of them communicate? Run a business? You probably want to be on Facebook, especially if it's any kind of recreation business. E-mail groups? Most people don't read their e-mail, and it's HORRIBLE for conversation. A forum on a website? Great, have that, but now I have to fight spam bots and nobody EVER remembers their damn username or password. Using a third party hosted forum that deals with a lot of that for me? Still ads. Even on a private server, I use facebook and google authentication. It fights most of the spam and deals with password issues for me.
And you're right, a lot of my friends aren't friends that would come bail me out of jail or help me move, but a lot of them would offer me a couch if I was traveling through their area, and have when I posted my travels. I wound up in another country and get a message from an old "friend" as you would say that he is also there that same week. Haven't seen each other in 10 years, probably never would have met again in our lives but because of Facebook we ended up meeting for dinner and having a great time.
I know it's not popular to like Facebook, but it doesn't have to be just political BS and farmville. Facebook actually offers pretty good tools to tune it to what you want it to be, so just like in life you can either whine and moan about what's dealt to you, or you can put in a little effort and make it more to your liking.
I unfriend you!
Monster? Please. . . use a Diamond HDMI cable! Not only will you have the fastest in home wifi, your wifi will be ultra HD 4K 3D at 240Hz with the more Gee-Bees! Also available in white and gold.
That has never been proven! How dare you drag a theoretically innocent man's name through the mud just because it passes Occam's razor and is the only explanation to the mystery that makes any sense! GOOD DAY TO YOU, SIR!
You're right, all of those jobs will still exist. Just as a horse shoe ferrier, clock maker, shoemaker, taylor, and even the farmer still exist today. The difference is that all of those jobs are fractions of a percent of what they were. Some of those jobs used to sustain significant portions of the country. Every town of a any size at all had those people. Now, a lot of people don't even know what those jobs are. Yes, they still exist, but automation has replaced most of them except for a few niche specialists.
That's the governments job. They call it taxes.
Stop producing people. The population will decline to match the number of available jobs.
Except people with no money for entertainment, education, and birth control and a lot of time on their hands tend to do things that are free and fun a lot. And a lot of those activities create more people (due to our outrages over providing birth control).