We think this is something new and unfamiliar. I think children might not be astounded by it. Children make mental associations incredibly well - far better than we do as adults, and they're not burdened by nostalgia, or philosophy, or issues with how abstract something is.
Babies play with dolls that dance and sing when spoken to or squeezed in the right way. They're also often comfortable using technology like remotes, computers, and sophisticated toys. I don't see a reason why they wouldn't accept a robot.
What exactly they're thinking about it - that it's a toy or something, is another matter.
Just so long as I'm equally entitled to conjecture that the Bible was placed here by Satan to test our faith in him (the true Lord).Don't think they should have a problem with that, do you?
Some people find the beliefs and values that are taught in public schools to be just as bad as what you think some would think of teaching about Satan being the true Lord. For this reason, and so you can educate your children with your tax money as you see fit (including teaching them to worship Satan, if you want), some people want a voucher system.
One, if a literal interpretation of the Bible is correct, what about all these fossils?
Valid question. Some people believe God is a lot smarter than they are, they may not understand everything, and they need to have faith. It's tough for them to work with all the suggestions that they're completely wrong and some try to offer suggestions of why things are the way they are.
why does that necessarily have to conflict with the established theory of evolution? For some Intelligent Design isn't their whole idea about the beginning of life and the world. They may believe that life came into being largely as it is now.
If NO, well then consider that WE HUMANS tend to think of ourseleves as intelligent designers. If a Universal Intelligent Designer could manage to exist without being intelligently designed, then why can't WE exist without being intelligently designed?
What you're talking about is philosopy and reasoning. If someone believes in Intelligent Design, this may not be through reasoning it out, it may be from faith.
Your question also puts humans a little higher up than some others do - some consider the gulf in intelligence between them and their God to be so vast as to make comparisons like that meaningless.
Did you hear the monologue in Kill Bill 2 about Superman?
"An essential characteristic of the superhero mythology is, there's the superhero, and there's the alter ego. Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When he wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man. And it is in that characteristic that Superman stands alone. Superman did not become Superman, Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears, the glasses, the business suit, that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent? He's weak, he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race. Sort of like Beatrix Kiddo and Mrs. Tommy Plympton. "
What's worst of all in the database situation is when companies spend the mucho dinero for something like Oracle, and then don't use what they're paying for, out of fear that they'll lock themselves in with proprietary features.
If you're using Oracle and you're not using stored procedures, PL/SQL, replication, load balancing, etc. you're just spending way too much cash when you could be using something cheap or free with the same capabilities.
Not to say you can't do fancy, proprietary things with Postgres, but if you're trying to be agnostic, might as well not pay extra.
Feel free to extrapolate this gripe to the use of Excel when a free alternative would work, or Photoshop when The Gimp would work, etc.
the sad fact is that if you have a third world citizenship, getting to visit the US can be a very problematic challenge.
I've got to say, as an American, this makes me really sad. I know and have known a lot of immigrants and visiting workers, legal and illegal. It's serious work to move to another country, and most people I've met who have done it have been hard working.
In the famous last lines of the Emma Lazarus poem "The New Colossus" which is engraved at the base of The Statue of Liberty it says:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
I think anyone who wants to come to American, who can, should be allowed to stay and work, or this plaque, and maybe the Statue of Liberty, should be taken down.
I must have missed the part where it said they were forcing people to work here?
People haven't always been forced to work in coal mines, teflon factories, factories or power plants dripping with mercury and whatnot. People will work to support their families, no matter how horrible the conditions.
This, to me, is a very old idea of modular. How long have docking stations, and even PDAs been around? Forever. This is what I'd like...
Something like this machine, but when you plug it into a desktop docking station that station has additional RAM, a better video card, more processors and additional storage.
I think it's all about what you can be sure is going to give you baseline results and not get you canned or hated.
From the business perspective, deciding to roll out Linux to everyone instead of Windows will save you a boatload of cash upfront. Then you'll get resistance all over the place, tech support will try to bleed money out of you and complain, lazy people will moan and complain. There's a possibility of success, but a high chance of failure. Tenure at a company is generally not earned for dynamic thinking, but for not screwing up.
For the home user, you set up Linux for your wife and kids or parents or whoever, and you get to the be the 24/7 tech support guy. They won't be able to do and see everything their friends and family send them, they'll be questioned and ridiculed by their clueless friends, and you'll have to explain to them why they can't play their games properly.
So is Windows the best? Doesn't matter. It's what almost everyone uses, and if you buy computer equipment or software you can be nearly guaranteed it will work on a Windows machine. If you get a file or see a website, it will almost certainly work with Windows.
Good point. Making a stupid 30 minute TV show once a week requires an army of people to write it, build sets, act, film, edit, etc. And they're all paid. I'm having a hard time picturing people producing content that frequently at any level of quality.
People thought everyone would publish their own magazines when desktop publishing came around, and it would transform the world. Ditto with cheap video cameras, audio recording equipment, etc. The truth is, digestible content is expensive and labor intensive to produce, no matter what the technology involved.
...Now imagine if Ubuntu had instead been a group of developers who decided to combine their efforts with the Debian group to improve Debian? We'd have a better Debian and no incompatibility between two popular distros and two communities.
I don't think Debian's current state - with it's long period between stable releases, is necessarily because of a lack of workers. I think it's a management decision. If there was a commitment to getting releases out at regular intervals, like every six months, even if the latest and greatest wasn't in it, Debian would be viewed differently.
Reading the perspectives of the OpenBSD team on this is helpful in understanding the situation. When manufacturers were willing to spend a few more cents per unit and have the drivers on the hardware, all was well.
Having binary drivers is not secure and likely not workable on differnt OSes.
Drivers probably don't need to be open source, as long as manufacturers would give detailed harware specficiations so people could write their own drivers.
Mac OS X problems: There are a lot of confusing things about Mac OS X, things that don't work the way I'd like, with no apparent way of changing them, and the Unixish backend really feels bolted on - there's such a difference between stuff in the gui and console, software install from the console is painful, etc.
Linux problems (largely as compared to BSDs): Mixture of binary stuff and from source and odd layout
BSDs problems: Lack of support for some stuff (hardware, Flash & Java in some, etc)
Windows problems: done to death
The wait for the one size fits all, ideal system continues.
I need to host some lists, so need a recommendation on hosting. I'm thinking mailman, but open to others. Doesn't need to provide POP email addresses or web hosting, I'm willing to farm those out to other companies, if necessary.
Don't want to have to pay for a whole box, want the ability to start up new lists and have some control over them - at least be able to alter moderation and stuff on them.
I was raised in a Roman Catholic family and went to a Catholic high school. Funny thing is they taught us EVOLUTION
I can't find the funny part.
I don't think your beliefs are unusual for Catholics, and I've heard from many people that have been taught similar things in Catholic sunday school and schools.
Most devout Protestants, which the vocal creationists tend to be, would hesitate to include Catholics as Christians.
Then I want a sticker in all bibles: "God is a myth, not a fact", and that statement is also completely true.
The sticker is not in all science books, just the ones that are required to be used at a public school in a particular area. And it's not saying anything is completely true or false. The parents would just like their beliefs to be respected. That seems very reasonable.
It is not clear to me what the sticker has to do with separation of church and state. The sticker made no reference to any religious beliefs...
The sticker seems to run contrary to the religion imposed in the schools by the courts. This is certainly not freedom of religion. Some might think it's freedom from religion, but that's not the case either. The courts are deciding how children should be indoctrinated.
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Here's the one I was thinking of:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=706
Linksys has an $80 gig 4 port router with 802.11g. It's hit the price point where everyone can have it without even knowing it.
Having gig ethernet is a selling point, and not having it could be like the floppy issue was. For what it costs them, I think it's a wise move.
"Can it be piped?" was moded funny? Am I missing a joke somewhere? Doesn't the poster mean | ?
We think this is something new and unfamiliar. I think children might not be astounded by it. Children make mental associations incredibly well - far better than we do as adults, and they're not burdened by nostalgia, or philosophy, or issues with how abstract something is.
Babies play with dolls that dance and sing when spoken to or squeezed in the right way. They're also often comfortable using technology like remotes, computers, and sophisticated toys. I don't see a reason why they wouldn't accept a robot.
What exactly they're thinking about it - that it's a toy or something, is another matter.
Just so long as I'm equally entitled to conjecture that the Bible was placed here by Satan to test our faith in him (the true Lord).Don't think they should have a problem with that, do you?
Some people find the beliefs and values that are taught in public schools to be just as bad as what you think some would think of teaching about Satan being the true Lord. For this reason, and so you can educate your children with your tax money as you see fit (including teaching them to worship Satan, if you want), some people want a voucher system.
One, if a literal interpretation of the Bible is correct, what about all these fossils?
Valid question. Some people believe God is a lot smarter than they are, they may not understand everything, and they need to have faith. It's tough for them to work with all the suggestions that they're completely wrong and some try to offer suggestions of why things are the way they are.
why does that necessarily have to conflict with the established theory of evolution?
For some Intelligent Design isn't their whole idea about the beginning of life and the world. They may believe that life came into being largely as it is now.
If NO, well then consider that WE HUMANS tend to think of ourseleves as intelligent designers. If a Universal Intelligent Designer could manage to exist without being intelligently designed, then why can't WE exist without being intelligently designed?
What you're talking about is philosopy and reasoning. If someone believes in Intelligent Design, this may not be through reasoning it out, it may be from faith.
Your question also puts humans a little higher up than some others do - some consider the gulf in intelligence between them and their God to be so vast as to make comparisons like that meaningless.
...maybe it fits better with Silver Age stories, but in recent times
Good call. He was talking about old school stuff, and while I'm not a big comics guy I agree that characters have become more complex. Thanks.
Did you hear the monologue in Kill Bill 2 about Superman?
"An essential characteristic of the superhero mythology is, there's the superhero, and there's the alter ego. Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When he wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man. And it is in that characteristic that Superman stands alone. Superman did not become Superman, Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears, the glasses, the business suit, that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent? He's weak, he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race. Sort of like Beatrix Kiddo and Mrs. Tommy Plympton. "
What's worst of all in the database situation is when companies spend the mucho dinero for something like Oracle, and then don't use what they're paying for, out of fear that they'll lock themselves in with proprietary features.
If you're using Oracle and you're not using stored procedures, PL/SQL, replication, load balancing, etc. you're just spending way too much cash when you could be using something cheap or free with the same capabilities.
Not to say you can't do fancy, proprietary things with Postgres, but if you're trying to be agnostic, might as well not pay extra.
Feel free to extrapolate this gripe to the use of Excel when a free alternative would work, or Photoshop when The Gimp would work, etc.
the sad fact is that if you have a third world citizenship, getting to visit the US can be a very problematic challenge.
I've got to say, as an American, this makes me really sad. I know and have known a lot of immigrants and visiting workers, legal and illegal. It's serious work to move to another country, and most people I've met who have done it have been hard working.
In the famous last lines of the Emma Lazarus poem "The New Colossus" which is engraved at the base of The Statue of Liberty it says:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
I think anyone who wants to come to American, who can, should be allowed to stay and work, or this plaque, and maybe the Statue of Liberty, should be taken down.
I live in NYC, in Queens, the most diverse county in the us (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City).
I must have missed the part where it said they were forcing people to work here?
People haven't always been forced to work in coal mines, teflon factories, factories or power plants dripping with mercury and whatnot. People will work to support their families, no matter how horrible the conditions.
This, to me, is a very old idea of modular. How long have docking stations, and even PDAs been around? Forever. This is what I'd like...
Something like this machine, but when you plug it into a desktop docking station that station has additional RAM, a better video card, more processors and additional storage.
I think it's all about what you can be sure is going to give you baseline results and not get you canned or hated.
From the business perspective, deciding to roll out Linux to everyone instead of Windows will save you a boatload of cash upfront. Then you'll get resistance all over the place, tech support will try to bleed money out of you and complain, lazy people will moan and complain. There's a possibility of success, but a high chance of failure. Tenure at a company is generally not earned for dynamic thinking, but for not screwing up.
For the home user, you set up Linux for your wife and kids or parents or whoever, and you get to the be the 24/7 tech support guy. They won't be able to do and see everything their friends and family send them, they'll be questioned and ridiculed by their clueless friends, and you'll have to explain to them why they can't play their games properly.
So is Windows the best? Doesn't matter. It's what almost everyone uses, and if you buy computer equipment or software you can be nearly guaranteed it will work on a Windows machine. If you get a file or see a website, it will almost certainly work with Windows.
Good point. Making a stupid 30 minute TV show once a week requires an army of people to write it, build sets, act, film, edit, etc. And they're all paid. I'm having a hard time picturing people producing content that frequently at any level of quality.
People thought everyone would publish their own magazines when desktop publishing came around, and it would transform the world. Ditto with cheap video cameras, audio recording equipment, etc. The truth is, digestible content is expensive and labor intensive to produce, no matter what the technology involved.
...Now imagine if Ubuntu had instead been a group of developers who decided to combine their efforts with the Debian group to improve Debian? We'd have a better Debian and no incompatibility between two popular distros and two communities.
I don't think Debian's current state - with it's long period between stable releases, is necessarily because of a lack of workers. I think it's a management decision. If there was a commitment to getting releases out at regular intervals, like every six months, even if the latest and greatest wasn't in it, Debian would be viewed differently.
Reading the perspectives of the OpenBSD team on this is helpful in understanding the situation. When manufacturers were willing to spend a few more cents per unit and have the drivers on the hardware, all was well.
Having binary drivers is not secure and likely not workable on differnt OSes.
Drivers probably don't need to be open source, as long as manufacturers would give detailed harware specficiations so people could write their own drivers.
Mac OS X problems:
There are a lot of confusing things about Mac OS X, things that don't work the way I'd like, with no apparent way of changing them, and the Unixish backend really feels bolted on - there's such a difference between stuff in the gui and console, software install from the console is painful, etc.
Linux problems (largely as compared to BSDs):
Mixture of binary stuff and from source and odd layout
BSDs problems:
Lack of support for some stuff (hardware, Flash & Java in some, etc)
Windows problems: done to death
The wait for the one size fits all, ideal system continues.
Most computers get to grandma type folks already set up. I'm more concerned with it being usable on a daily basis than setup.
I need to host some lists, so need a recommendation on hosting. I'm thinking mailman, but open to others. Doesn't need to provide POP email addresses or web hosting, I'm willing to farm those out to other companies, if necessary.
Don't want to have to pay for a whole box, want the ability to start up new lists and have some control over them - at least be able to alter moderation and stuff on them.
Recommendations?
I was raised in a Roman Catholic family and went to a Catholic high school. Funny thing is they taught us EVOLUTION
I can't find the funny part.
I don't think your beliefs are unusual for Catholics, and I've heard from many people that have been taught similar things in Catholic sunday school and schools.
Most devout Protestants, which the vocal creationists tend to be, would hesitate to include Catholics as Christians.
Then I want a sticker in all bibles: "God is a myth, not a fact", and that statement is also completely true.
The sticker is not in all science books, just the ones that are required to be used at a public school in a particular area. And it's not saying anything is completely true or false. The parents would just like their beliefs to be respected. That seems very reasonable.
Modern medicine may just be a theory but I reckon it's statistically a better bet than relying on His strength.
Uh... few would say they are mutually exclusive.
Now, who wants to start a campaign to sticker bibles?
When they require kids to read them in public schools as irrefutable fact that might be reasonable. Now try understanding the situation again.
It is not clear to me what the sticker has to do with separation of church and state. The sticker made no reference to any religious beliefs...
The sticker seems to run contrary to the religion imposed in the schools by the courts. This is certainly not freedom of religion. Some might think it's freedom from religion, but that's not the case either. The courts are deciding how children should be indoctrinated.
...one of the crime-facilitating online marketplaces being monitored by the Secret Service as part of Operation Firewall.
They were monitoring sites that did illegal business and found out about this.