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Batman Begins Trailer Released

Chris_Jefferson writes "The full-length trailer for Batman Begins has been released. Christian Bale looks great as Bruce Wayne, and hopefully I can recover from exposure to the awful last couple of Batman films, and the equally terrible Catwoman."

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  1. Batman by mboverload · · Score: 3, Funny

    Holy smokes, Batman, there's nothing to see here. I guess we better move along!

    1. Re:Batman by Elpepe55 · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, Batman Begins YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2. Re:Batman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can I watch this it asks me for itunes wtf?

    3. Re:Batman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you know? It's an audio book, not a movie, people are going to sit in the theatre and just IMAGINE what is happening.

    4. Re:Batman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you like Batman and Robin, you may be interested in the Grayson movie:

      http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/nonsw/grayson/

      Cheers.

    5. Re:Batman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. What's up with that? Everytime I want to see a trailer I'm taken to some stupid page that wants me to download something new. I'm sick of it. Just play the damn thing or I'm going away!

  2. Christian Bale by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 3, Insightful

    American Psycho is one of my favorite movies.

    1. Re:Christian Bale by phloydphreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      he also ruled in Equilibrium.

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    2. Re:Christian Bale by Coryoth · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you want to see a change watch The Machinist. Bale is literally nothng but skin and bone - he apparently lost fully 1/3 his weight for the film. A pretty good performance as a man on the edge of losing his mind as well. I can definitely picture Bale as Wayne/Batman, hopefully bringing a little more of the psychological edge to the character than previous films attempted.

      To be frank I think the previews look uninspiring. I just keep looking at the cast (which is for the most part great) and the director (Christopher Nolan) who while new has some decent films under his belt already. Surely they can't make too much of a mess - hopefully the previews are just badly put together. At the very least it looks like it will be far and away superior to the last couple of Batman films.

      Jedidiah.

    3. Re:Christian Bale by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1
      That movie was hardcore up until the end. *SPOILER ALERT* You know, where he and his partner were supposed to fight for like twenty minutes but it was over in twenty seconds. And then the abrupt credits rolling right afterwards. Its as if they just lost all their budget right there.

      Other than that, totally hardcore movie, even in spite of having a done-to-death plot.

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    4. Re:Christian Bale by Shinglor · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bale is literally nothng but skin and bone

      You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    5. Re:Christian Bale by echocharlie · · Score: 1

      You should see a younger Bale attempt an over-the-top Brooklyn accent as "Cowboy" in Disney's Newsies (their attempt at reviving the movie musical).

    6. Re:Christian Bale by blincoln · · Score: 3, Informative

      You know, where he and his partner were supposed to fight for like twenty minutes but it was over in twenty seconds.


      He wasn't supposed to fight with his partner for very long, because his partner wasn't nearly as good.

      He *was* supposed to have a massive fight with the chubby British guy, which is what they didn't have the budget for, but I thought it turned out pretty well anyway. Apparently the fight they had planned is going to show up in Ultraviolet.


      And then the abrupt credits rolling right afterwards. Its as if they just lost all their budget right there.


      There was at least five minutes more movie after that fight...

      Anyway, the movie did have a low budget. It shows in places, but it's still awesome.

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    7. Re:Christian Bale by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1

      He wasn't supposed to fight with his partner for very long, because his partner wasn't nearly as good.

      He *was* supposed to have a massive fight with the chubby British guy, which is what they didn't have the budget for, but I thought it turned out pretty well anyway. Apparently the fight they had planned is going to show up in Ultraviolet.

      Ahh. I knew the movie was missing a big end fight scene. By the British guy, do you mean the guy that played Robert the Bruce in Braveheart? I thought it would have made more sense if he were merely the brains behind it all, and couldn't fight.

      There was at least five minutes more movie after that fight...

      Anyway, the movie did have a low budget. It shows in places, but it's still awesome.

      Hmm...I'll have to go back and watch it again. Say, what's this whole Ultraviolet thing?

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    8. Re:Christian Bale by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

      Uninspiring? I thought it was great how they delve a bit deeper into his training, rather than just dropping him in the movie and having an "oh, his parents got murdered, so now he knows karate and stuff" explanation. Reading the comics, I always wanted more in that department. Damn, I am such a dork.

    9. Re:Christian Bale by GileadGreene · · Score: 1

      Inconceivable! But not literally so.

    10. Re:Christian Bale by mankey+wanker · · Score: 1

      Bale is actually one of the few AMAZING actors of his generation. He can act, sing, dance, has charisma, etc. All in all the guy is fairly watchable.

      And for everyone that doesn't understand American Psycho (the movie, I never read the book) - it's a very dark comedy about the 80s. Very dark. The end result is that you aren't even sure that the whole movie isn't just the insane fantasies of a privileged nutcase.

      Seriously, I can't think of a Christian Bale movie that isn't better for his presence in the movie, starting with Speilberg's botched "Empire of the Sun." The only reason it's good at all is Bale in nearly every scene.

    11. Re:Christian Bale by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 1

      thanks mods...uhh...Christian Bale is playing Batman and was also good in American Psycho. That is definitely on topic.

      Try reading the summary some time, it can be quite helpful...

    12. Re:Christian Bale by AussieVamp2 · · Score: 1

      yeah, he has gone from Gun-Fu to anti Gun-Fu :) with some Dragon-Fu in the middle!

    13. Re:Christian Bale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christian Bale looks great as Bruce Wayne

      And Liam Nelson looks great as Ra's Al Ghul. Whoops...

    14. Re:Christian Bale by blincoln · · Score: 1

      Ahh. I knew the movie was missing a big end fight scene. By the British guy, do you mean the guy that played Robert the Bruce in Braveheart? I thought it would have made more sense if he were merely the brains behind it all, and couldn't fight.

      Well, part of the unexpositioned (um, is that a word?) backstory is that that was the guy who invented the Gun Kata. But yeah, I thought it was a bit of a stretch that he would pose a threat to Christian Bale of the extreme exercise plan.

      There's a LOT of cool stuff like that in the commentary tracks on the DVD.

      Say, what's this whole Ultraviolet thing?

      It's a vampire movie, and that's all I know. I'm picturing something like Underworld set in the near future.

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    15. Re:Christian Bale by che.kai-jei · · Score: 1

      i ahve read the script.

      it is awesome. it is was as clsoe to the shooting script as possible. but that still may mean massive changes.
      the script itself is lovingly, faithfully written.
      i only wanted to read the opening scene and before i knew it a couple of hours had gone and i was te the end.

      no im not that fat aint-it-cool guy [but i nearly did have geek-gasm].
      or the comic book guy out of simpsons.

      it looks very special - very psychological.
      [you admire batman but know you could never be him]
      chris nolan before production started invited everyone to private screening of bladerunner.
      and said "this is what i wnat."

      he was also said to want to really emphasise how much being a detective batman is. and how much learned at the nbegining and how much more had to learn.

      if you think about it batman is like sherlock holmes. with gadgets
      [although he barely uses any in teh script.].
      and kung fu.

      it could still be terrible.

      oh eyah this is gorgeous. no real flashbacks.

      bruce waynes past is his past. and it grows him into what he becomes .

      it honestly seems like batman animated series' success in seriousness had a hand in it as well as the backlash to resurrecting the camp knight.
      i think we owe our thanks here to Tim Burtons ressurection of the dark knight and the psychology of the bruce wayne masquerade.
      the fantastic writing of knightsend, Knightfall LoTDK, bladerunner and Christopher Nolan.

    16. Re:Christian Bale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he isnt ras al ghul so there

    17. Re:Christian Bale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      christ just see nthis trailer

      which is nothing compared to the teasers and some othe rfootage.

      studio mustve got nervous.

    18. Re:Christian Bale by soliptic · · Score: 1
      Ruled!!!???

      Dude, Equilibrium was literally the worst film I've ever seen. While most bad films become so-bad-its-funny-and-therefore-actually-good (e.g. "Navy Seals"), Equilibrium was downright awful. The plot was utterly laughable, the acting was atrocious, even the fight scenes were stunningly dull. It was so bad, me and my friends sat in horrified silence, where normally we would be either laughing or mocking. To this day that film remains my benchmark of a terrible movie without any saving grace whatsoever.

    19. Re:Christian Bale by rikkards · · Score: 1

      The end result is that you aren't even sure that the whole movie isn't just the insane fantasies of a privileged nutcase.

      Then you got the point of the book (well at least I think). I read it. Twice. The first time for the gory bits and the second to actually read it and that was when I realized what you brought up. There are some truly gory parts and those were the reason why it got banned in Canada but the best parts are his description of his favourite bands. He devotes chapters to Whitney Houston and Phil Collins and I think Wham.

      Definitely a good read.

    20. Re:Christian Bale by Craig_P92669 · · Score: 0

      Don't forget Huey Lewis and the News, with their album Sports, a definite classic and crowd-pleaser.


      If he had just listened to Slayer, none of that shit would've not happened.

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    21. Re:Christian Bale by rikkards · · Score: 1

      Oh yes forgot about that. I got humour out of his description of going to a U2 concert and thinking that him and Bono were the same type of person.

      What is funny is that he was the 80's version of a metrosexual.

    22. Re:Christian Bale by Bedouin+X · · Score: 1

      If you listen to the commentary track on the DVD, the director directly addresses this by saying something to the effect of: "Look, when I was a kid envisioning myself fighting my arch-enemy, he didn't get a good lick or two in. It was always pretty decisive."

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    23. Re:Christian Bale by emilymildew · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Huey Lewis.

      I loved those parts of the book. They balanced the gore, I think.

    24. Re:Christian Bale by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      You know, "metrosexual" is just a new term to replace "fop" and "dandy".

    25. Re:Christian Bale by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      He wasn't supposed to fight with his partner for very long, because his partner wasn't nearly as good.

      Yeah, the idea was that when they fought the first time, Bale wasn't on top of his game because of his emotions. At the end, he was in Perfect Killer mode and his partner didn't stand a chance.

      He *was* supposed to have a massive fight with the chubby British guy

      I thought that was the least convincing fight. Maybe it's just because he didn't look like a fighter, and no hint was given that he was one. If they'd showed him practicing gun kata once rather than just talking about it, I might have thought "this guy might be a badass" and already be prepared for the suspension of disbelief for the last fight.

      Still, damn good (B) movie.

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    26. Re:Christian Bale by Craig_P92669 · · Score: 0

      I have learned not to whip that DVD out when starting out with a girl. Best to stick with Donnie Darko.

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    27. Re:Christian Bale by mzipay · · Score: 1

      Dude, Equilibrium was literally the worst film I've ever seen.

      then you have obviously not seen Knights.

      in addition to being the worst film i've ever seen (by a LONG shot), it contains the worst line of monologue i've ever heard in a movie. you'll have to wait until the closing scene to catch it, though (if you can make it that far).

    28. Re:Christian Bale by 3terrabyte · · Score: 1
      And I thought that was what "Legends of the Dark Knight" series was all about?

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    29. Re:Christian Bale by 3terrabyte · · Score: 1
      Yea. Right.

      I seriously doubt someone of your writing caliber can even read.

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    30. Re:Christian Bale by bfischer · · Score: 1

      I think Ultraviolet is based on this (since they both refer the the vampires as having a genetic issue the same way-hemophagia): http://imdb.com/title/tt0169501/ It was an ok series.

    31. Re:Christian Bale by che.kai-jei · · Score: 1

      a/ its not my 1st langauge.
      b/ i am not much of a typist : P

      and i was in a rush this mornin'! no time to proofread or see the trailer

      i shuldnt* really contrubte to the noise on slashdot
      i shuld* raise standards by making better quality posts
      like you seem to be doing.
      #rolls eyes#

      for instance your deliberate deployment of the olde english 'yea' as opposed to the american 'yeah'and also the spelling of calibre as 'caliber; or should i assume you the perfer terrabyte are not infalliable as your attitude might suggest?

      you shoulda* previewed your two line post! .. hell if you cannot proof read your two own line missives in your native language why should i really assume you care or that your opinion matters as much as anyone elses? pedant.
      however i would doubt the mental faculties of anyone who has read the script of blockbuster movie adaptation of a comic nbook and is excited about it.
      i am no longer in the business where i have to read movie scripts. but a certian few come my way from old friends.

      *i know these are misspelled and i know it will annoy you

      UPDATE : seen the trailer it looks awful.
      nothing on the rushes i saw or the promise. i am sure it is studio jitters trying ot make sure the
      summer market wqill come.

      like they wont?! it IS summer and comic boook movie.

      "honey we cant see this.. it looks too much like greek classical drama." [it doesnt] what does through studio execs minds , eh?

  3. The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by _undan · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... and there's no comedians, glow-in-the-dark villians, kids, or Joel Schumacer in sight.

    How could it suck?

    1. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by 1evilmonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      Im sure Hollywood will find a way...

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    2. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "How could it suck?"

      Well, it is a prequel and a lot of geeks have an impressive command of Batman trivia to nitpick about.

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    3. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by -kertrats- · · Score: 1

      How could it suck?

      Let me count the ways...

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    4. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but this is the only Batman movie so far to mention / show his ninja training.....

    5. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by El+Gordo+Motoneta · · Score: 5, Funny

      Batman can kill anyone he wants! Batman cuts off heads ALL the time and doesn't even think twice about it. This guy is so crazy and awesome that he flips out ALL the time. I heard that there was this time he was eating at a diner. And when some dude dropped a spoon Batman killed the whole town. My friend Mark said that he saw Batman totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window.

      And that's what I call REAL Ultimate Power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      If you don't believe that Batman has REAL Ultimate Power you better get a life right now or he will chop your head off!!! It's an easy choice, if you ask me.

    6. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But... No Suit-Nipples? This completely throws off the entire Batman mythos!

    7. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by MadBiologist · · Score: 1

      Don't worry about it... you can see Katie Holmes' in the preview...

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    8. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Funny

      And apparently his friend Robin loves Batman with all of his body (including his pee-pee).

    9. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Flounder · · Score: 3, Funny

      And it'll be the last time we get a nice view of Katie before Tom $cientologizes her and forces her to sit through marathon sessions of Battlefield Earth and dancing on Hollywood Blvd.

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    10. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not that there's anything wrong with that..

    11. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by buraianto · · Score: 1

      That is the hardest I've laughed on Slashdot for quite a while. I tip my hat to you, sir.

    12. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by gmplague · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry. It's going to suck. I can tell from the trailer. Just you wait. I actually liked the first one, and Batman Forever was good as well, but I can tell you hands down that this one will suck.

      Mod me -1 Awesome. Please.

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    13. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

      If you don't believe that Batman has REAL Ultimate Power

      No, he doesn't...

      but he's got *THOSE WONDERFUL TOYS!!!!!*

    14. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by OmegaGeek · · Score: 1

      Dude - you're thinking of MacCauley Culkin and Michael Jackson.

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    15. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sets her free, you mean.

    16. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      I find it mildly disturbing that someone modded this as insightful, considering it was a quote from realultimatepower.

    17. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Elranzer · · Score: 1

      ...or Joel Schumacer in sight

      Don't worry about it sucking. The mere fact that the movie DOESN'T have Schumacher means it's instantly at least better than Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, Phantom of the Opera, Phone Booth, Bad Company or The Incredible Shrinking Woman (and just about every other movie you could think of that Joel spewed his directoral feces into).

    18. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      plagiarized from realultimatepower.net

    19. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by fakedupe · · Score: 1

      I don't know man, DC CAB... That was pretty watchable. Not good in the traditional sense of the work but damn amusing nonetheless.

    20. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Charcharodon · · Score: 1
      Ninjas are cool and so is Batman.

      Now making a new Batmovie that doesn't suck big rooster, now that's Real Ultimate Power.

    21. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by paladin_tom · · Score: 1

      Except for the whole age of consent thing.... ;)

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    22. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by kria · · Score: 1

      I think Joel Schumacher made up for the things done to Batman at the end (the things that were his fault, at least, and no, I don't know which things were) with his handling of Phantom of the Opera. Gorgeous movie.

    23. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by RustyIC · · Score: 1

      ...I have nipples batman, can you milk me?

    24. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by 3terrabyte · · Score: 1

      Yea right.
      Who's the only one here that knows illegal ninja moves from the government?

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    25. Re:The batsuit doesn't have nipples... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Batman's gonna be played by Michael Jackson, now? Did I miss something?

  4. iTunes?! by michrech · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What was wrong with just putting these things out in Quicktime? (it's bad enough that I've had to put quicktime on my PC in the first place when there are PLENTY if other more widely used codecs that could be used instead (and even work between Apple's computers and Windows computers!)

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    1. Re:iTunes?! by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 3, Informative

      Everything below fullscreen will work with regular Quicktime.

    2. Re:iTunes?! by michrech · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Ahh.. Only the full screen version needs iTunes (for whatever reason; I think it's stupid)..

      Oh well..

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    3. Re:iTunes?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Besides, Apple needs to work on their PC version of Quicktime, it's horrible. Movies that play fine on my G3 bring my 1 GHz PC to a crawl.

    4. Re:iTunes?! by Ojamin · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Only the full screen is in itunes, all other sizes are in QT.

    5. Re:iTunes?! by Directrix1 · · Score: 5, Informative

      After digging through the itms xml crapola. Here is the link to the fullscreen mov.

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    6. Re:iTunes?! by EvilAlien · · Score: 1

      Its slimey and invasive, not stupid. Its just a sneaky way for Apple to get their iTunes software onto more PCs.

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    7. Re:iTunes?! by KillShill · · Score: 1

      if it's not too much trouble, could you write a mini-howto on how you obtained the url?

      i've tried a few times, looking at the source but i'm not sure how to obtain the xml file in question...

      thanks in advance.

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    8. Re:iTunes?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      W00t, thanks for doing the leg work for me!

    9. Re:iTunes?! by KillShill · · Score: 1

      oops, i must have made a mistake somewhere before.

      i just managed to get the xml.

      thanks though.

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    10. Re:iTunes?! by Aerog · · Score: 2, Informative

      As I discovered with the Serenity Trailer, you can run most (if not all) MOV files under VLC and not have to install any more garbage just because you want to do one thing. Plus, VLC is just a fine piece of media player when my old Windows Media Player 4.0 won't do.

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    11. Re:iTunes?! by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Sneaky? What's sneaky about it? Does it download and install iTunes without your knowledge?

      It's SO SNEAKY that it offers you a free program to view the movie trailer, which you also didn't pay for. Sneaky indeed.

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    12. Re:iTunes?! by radish · · Score: 1

      Hey - I've got a free program you might want for keeping track of all those pesky passwords. Did I mention it's free? Must be good, right?

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    13. Re:iTunes?! by Moofie · · Score: 1

      I didn't say it was good because it was free. I do happen to think that it's good, and I'd be delighted to pay for it, as I think it's the best music player and organizer available.

      But, hey, I guess that makes me a slack-jawed Jobs lover, huh? Couldn't possibly have good reasons for my opinion, could I?

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    14. Re:iTunes?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think thats bad? I'm on linux+amd64, there is no quicktime codec to play that stuff.

    15. Re:iTunes?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try this video in MPlayer or VLC. It works for me on amd64 with open-source codecs:

      Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm:mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
      Selected video codec: [ffsvq3] vfm:ffmpeg (FFmpeg Sorenson Video v3 (SVQ3))


      Some of the other videos use an proprietary audio format that doesn't work for me, although the video still plays.

    16. Re:iTunes?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here, but I make the best of it, I MST3K the ones without sound.

    17. Re:iTunes?! by multisync · · Score: 1

      Thank you

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    18. Re:iTunes?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's NOT a link to the movie, it's an empty container that links to the movie. Add an "m" before 480 and you have it.

    19. Re:iTunes?! by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      I don't have Quicktime....or Windows....or a Mac. Gotta love 'view source' tool =) So....either they stream the vid to you in iTunes, or you find the back door to be able to download the video. I'd rather have my own copy of the file anyhow!

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    20. Re:iTunes?! by Stween · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's the actual link to the fullscreen movie.

      To find it, I'd normally right click, view page info in firefox, switch to the media tab, and have a look for any Embeds on the page. This time 'view page info' wasn't available, so I simply went to the page with the movie I wanted, viewed the source, searched for ".mov", wget , realised it wasn't the real thing, cat , pulled the real URL out of it, and wget .

      I can never be bothered setting up anything slightly more convenient for the once in a blue moon I watch these things, and I prefer to have the movie here, rather than streaming it, as I assume the first URL was designed to do; might as well use the bandwidth once and watch it as many times as I wish (or show it to as many people as I wish, if the laptop's disconnected).

    21. Re:iTunes?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      absolutely not!

    22. Re:iTunes?! by TyfStar · · Score: 1

      For those of us that won't (okay can't.. damn 'puter nazi) install Quicktime, anyone know of a place where this is in WMP format?

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    23. Re:iTunes?! by Bloomy · · Score: 1

      Almost every time, the difference between the URL in the info or source and the actual URL for the trailer is an 'm' right before the 480 in the URL. I can't remember if the smaller sizes use different letters, but I never bother with those anyway. I've pulled a lot of trailers off the QuickTime site the last 5 years or so, and that's how most of the trailers have been named.

    24. Re:iTunes?! by Stween · · Score: 1

      I'll bear that in mind. I don't do it often enough to have remembered a pattern in their naming scheme :)

    25. Re:iTunes?! by mr100percent · · Score: 1

      But it allows you to watch Fullscreen without shelling out $30US for Quicktime Pro.

  5. Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by cheezus_es_lard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Too bad for that... Apple is probably just trying, like usual, to leverage it's involvement into more users of it's products. Scary, that... when you think of how far convergence and consolidation can take us.

    1. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's strange, here mplayer plays the file perfectly...

    2. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then don't watch the fucking trailer.
      Wait until they're showing 50,000 times a day on every TV channel... or you probably don't want the TV manufacturers to "leverage it's involvement into more users of it's products." Which really makes no fucking sense.
      They put up a trailer FOR FREE.
      They put up the software to view the trailer FOR FREE.
      And you complain?
      Uninstall the software when you're done if it bothers you that much.
      It would have taken less time than complaining with a post on /.
      Oh, right, you're probably on Windows, so all that installing/uninstalling will take a while... looser.

    3. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by isd_glory · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's only for iTunes if you're too lazy to check out all the redirects that the "Full Screen" link brings you to. All that's going on is that the webpage attempts to use iTunes to open a specific weblink. In this case, the full-screen movie would be found here:

      http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/batman_begins/ba tman_begins-tlr4a_ifs.mov

    4. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      " Apple is probably just trying, like usual, to leverage it's involvement into more users of it's products."

      It's funny how the description of this practice is a lot more colorful when it's about Microsoft.

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    5. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Directrix1 · · Score: 1

      Oh man, you beat me too it. Friggin' life of mine.

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    6. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Thank you, I always have a hard time finding the actual file amidst the mess of obfuscated codes, redirects, palylist files, etc.

    7. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      yes, funny considering how one is convicted for having an illegal monopoly, while the other has less than 5% market share.

    8. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Shhhh! Your not allowed to talk bad about Apple around here. They will end you account and edit your messa///// Apple is good. All hail the Slashdot-Apple Axis and their glorious regime. Signed little girl.

    9. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      Only for iTunes users and those who understand the usefulness of the "view source" tool!

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    10. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Scudsucker · · Score: 1

      It's funny how the description of this practice is a lot more colorful when it's about Microsoft.

      No, what's really funny is how this comment get's posted just about every time Apple get's mentioned, and every time you guys think you are so clever and insightful for pointing this out.

    11. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      . Apple is probably just trying, like usual, to leverage it's involvement into more users of it's products.
      You mean..? no... apple are trying to conduct bussiness .. who would of thought a company would try to expand its market..
    12. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by davidstrauss · · Score: 1
      yes, funny considering how one is convicted for having an illegal monopoly, while the other has less than 5% market share.

      Not of the relevent businesses, AC. Apple has FAR more than 5% of online music sales and MP3 players.

    13. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And? Thanks for the link, but Apple are still using their involvement to restrict it to iTunes users, even if they are doing an incompetent job of keeping it from geeks.

    14. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by drsmithy · · Score: 1
      yes, funny considering how one is convicted for having an illegal monopoly, while the other has less than 5% market share.

      Firstly, market share is (supposedly) irrelevant to whether or not a monopoly exists (and whether it is being abused).

      Secondly, Apple weren't considered to be a part of the market Microsoft were in. If we were to define a similar market to the one Microsoft was found guilty of monopolising - say, "PowerPC-compatible desktop operating systems", Apple has a hell of a lot more than a "5% market share".

    15. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Know what else is funny? Someone trying to "take a poster down a peg or two" when they apparently have no idea what an apostrophe is or how to use it.

    16. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Refrag · · Score: 1

      How much is Apple charging you to deliver the content to you?

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    17. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by NickFortune · · Score: 1
      So are you saying that Apple's pettiness makes Microsoft's abuse of its monopoly less wrong, or just that we should be more stridently condemnatory of Apple?

      If you think it'd help, I could turn on caps lock and swear for a bit...

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    18. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I didn't realise that Apple was doing it free! I thought they'd done a deal with the movie company to restrict content exclusively to their format and their viewing conditions.

      Fucking ass-munching Apple fag. If Microsoft were doing this, it would suddenly be a different matter, but because it's the lord god almighty himself Sir Steve of Jobs responsible, it's suddenly ok. Enjoy that Jobs cock, did you?

    19. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "No, what's really funny is how this comment get's posted just about every time Apple get's mentioned"

      I didn't invent this double standard.

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    20. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "So are you saying that Apple's pettiness makes Microsoft's abuse of its monopoly less wrong,"

      Close. The way I see it, either Apple shouldn't be allowed to get away with what Microsoft does, or Microsoft's practices should raise fewer pitchforks. Slashdot users have a double standard here that is really quite childish.

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    21. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by eatmadust · · Score: 1
      how did you get that?
      kingb@andromeda:~/temp/trailers$ wget www.apple.com/moviesxml/s/wb/1379/fullscreen.xml
      --15:41:08-- <a href="http://www.apple.com/moviesxml/s/wb/1379/ful lscreen.xml">http://www.apple.com/moviesxml/s/wb/1 379/fullscreen.xml</a>
      => `fullscreen.xml'
      Resolving www.apple.com... 17.112.152.32
      Connecting to www.apple.com[17.112.152.32]:80... connected.
      HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
      15:41:10 ERROR 403: Forbidden.
    22. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Refrag · · Score: 1

      Microsoft would never host a lot of content and let users leach it unless they got paid for it (Xbox Live *cough*). You're forgetting that Microsoft is the same company that was too cheap to pay for Helvetica and instead had someone knock it off as Arial.

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    23. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by NickFortune · · Score: 1
      I think I'd go for option A: More pitchforks for apple. Unfair business pratices are unfair, regardless of who perpetrates them.

      On the other hand, I do have a degree of sympathy for the anti-microsoft mob. It's not that Apple are necesarily any better; it's more that MS, its influence being that much more pervasive, has had many, many more opportunities to annoy them. There's a lot of hatred for MS which Apple would be hard pressed to match given its current market share. Given that, people tend to react more strongly when Microsoft starts acting like Dick Dastardly - they've been here before and before and before and they've long since had enough. When Apple does it, they've got enough good will stored up that people tend to give them the benefit of the doubt. So I'll make no apologies for Apple, but I think "double standard" and "childish" are maybe a bit harsh.

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    24. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Whoozit · · Score: 1

      I'm trying to figure that out as well, since all their new/good trailers are being released this way. I want to save the .mov to my drive and iTunes won't let me do that... a method to find the direct link would be useful.

    25. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Scudsucker · · Score: 1

      I didn't invent this double standard.

      1) there is no such double standard. Just look at all the posts calling Jobs an asshole in the book banning story. 2) even if it was, posting the same comment over and over and over and over again is redundantly repeditve crap.

    26. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny? Maybe for anal retentive dipshits...speaking of, aren't you due for some self-administered anal fisting?

    27. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "1) there is no such double standard. Just look at all the posts calling Jobs an asshole in the book banning story."

      That doesn't prove there's a double standard. That's not even in the same ballpark.

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    28. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      Err low sleep day. I mean to say "disprove", not prove. Hope your weekend's goin better than mine. Heh.

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    29. Re:Fullscreen Trailer is only for ITunes users by Scudsucker · · Score: 1

      I'm getting pumped full of drugs as part of a medical study, to get a few bucks. I've got nothing better to do than argue on Slashdot, and they have broadband, so I'm set!

  6. Purr... by RichM · · Score: 2, Funny

    Catwoman was hot, what's wrong with you? :)

    1. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently hot enough to make you flamebait (although I'm not sure why)...

    2. Re:Purr... by JediTrainer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Catwoman was hot, what's wrong with you? :)

      Uh huh. And how long until you realized that you were checking out a GUY most of the time (ie her stunt double - look it up).

      I always enjoyed watching people's faces when I told them that one :)

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    3. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yeah, here he is, Catwoman. That's gotta be a little weird on your resume huh?

    4. Re:Purr... by PalmerEldritch42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah.. well... he was HOT...

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    5. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      > Uh huh. And how long until you realized that
      > you were checking out a GUY most of the time
      > (ie her stunt double - look it up).
      >
      > I always enjoyed watching people's faces when
      > I told them that one :)

      I've cranked off a few to Jaye Davidson in The Crying Game. Doesn't bother me none.

    6. Re:Purr... by Lisandro · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Not even Hale Berry in tight leather spared my eyes from bleeding. Gosh that one was bad.

      PS: The fight scene with her and Sharon Stone had too many clothes. And no mud.

    7. Re:Purr... by JoshRosenbaum · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've cranked off a few to Jaye Davidson in The Crying Game. Doesn't bother me none.

      LOL! You would've gotten my funny mod points for that one. (If I had them.) :) That was awesome. In the hetero-sexual manly awesome way of course ;)

    8. Re:Purr... by JoshRosenbaum · · Score: 1

      Catwoman was hot, what's wrong with you? :)
      Not sure why you are getting mod'd down as flame bait. She was hot, and you were clearly not posting in a serious manner. :) My guess is that there are some die-hard Halle Berry / Catwoman haters on Slashdot. :)

    9. Re:Purr... by JoshRosenbaum · · Score: 1

      I think I liked her better when she wasn't in the suit, and I'm pretty sure she wasn't a guy then. Right? ;)

    10. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'll note I was too cowardly to post nonymously.

      That's fine. I was pegged high at 50 karma before they hid the karma.

    11. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah, here he is, Catwoman. That's gotta be a little weird on your resume huh?

      Not in Hollywood.

    12. Re:Purr... by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

      Uh oh. I think I'm gay :(

    13. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Yeah nothing wrong with that. Hell I rubbed one out to Jim Carrey in Ace Ventura when they just played The Crying Game by Boy George. Nothing wrong with either one of us!

    14. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure any section of film with her strutting around was all Halle, just need to pause your hand any time she starts to do an rolls, flips etc. ;)

    15. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well there are actually 3 stunt people for catwoman, one of which is a guy, so fukn what dipsh#t, catwoman is HOT!!

    16. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did look it up. You're 1/3rd right! Of her 3 stunt doubles, one was a guy. I'll just assume the places she looked hot were the girls.

    17. Re:Purr... by Craig_P92669 · · Score: 0

      Wanna go camping?






      I did not just say that, move along.

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    18. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FTW

    19. Re:Purr... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was under the impression, from articles i read at the time, that Cat Woman's stunt double was in fact Kathy Long (kickboxing champ). Or maybe that was her trainer/choreographer?!

      *shrugs*

  7. Before anyone brings it up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The vehicle is NOT the "new Batmobile"

    It's not even the old Batmobile. It's the tumbler, the precursor to any Bruce-designed rides. This was a prototype vehicle developed at Wayne Enterprises R&D for military purposes, and the project got scrapped.

    Batman is not flying. He is gliding, using the rails sewn into the edges of his cape.

    There will be lots in this movie* that doesn't line up with the other 4 flicks, because it's in a completely different continuity line. The director wanted everything in this movie to be believable and realistic. It's going to be darker and more real than even the first Batman in 1989.

    *SPOILER: The end shows Commissioner Gordon holding up a clue from the next villain they can't catch without Batman's held, a playing card (Joker).

    1. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Coryoth · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There will be lots in this movie* that doesn't line up with the other 4 flicks, because it's in a completely different continuity line. The director wanted everything in this movie to be believable and realistic. It's going to be darker and more real than even the first Batman in 1989.

      All I can say is "good!". After the last two debacles the only tenable option was to his the big red PANIC!/RESTART! button in the corner, ignore the existence of anything else and try again.

      I kind of appreciated Burton's take on Batman. While I didn't really like the films that much (for reasons relating to poor plots and a little too much humour) I do think he had an interesting and worthwhile vision for Batman. After Burton left so did any last semblance of sanity. We lost the strong vision, the plots and attempted humour only got worse, and well... How to sink a franchise really.

      I must say, though, that given the success of Sin City it would be interesting to see a similarly styled take on The Dark Knight Returns. I guess that really depends on how much money Sin City makes.

      Jedidiah.

    2. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Batman Begins is actually taken from Batman: Year One, which I believe was Frank Miller.

    3. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Coryoth · · Score: 1

      It's not a Sin City style take on it however - it's not doing the whole "the comic book is the storyboard, we just frame each shot similarly" approach, not the visual style which hews very close to the visual style of black and white comic.

      At least they actually chose some decent stories to work from however, instead of making up random crap as they have in the past.

      Jedidiah.

    4. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Quarters · · Score: 5, Funny
      It's going to be darker and more real than even the first Batman in 1989.

      I dunno, it's gonna be hard to be more real than a guy falling into a vat of acid, having plastic surgery done to make himself look like clown and then defacing an art museum while dancing around to Prince music....

    5. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, it was the late 80's, this sort of thing happened like every day.

    6. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Will+Sargent · · Score: 5, Funny
      I dunno, it's gonna be hard to be more real than a guy falling into a vat of acid, having plastic surgery done to make himself look like clown and then defacing an art museum while dancing around to Prince music....

      Seen the Michael Jackson trial recently?

    7. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There will be lots in this movie* that doesn't line up with the other 4 flicks, because it's in a completely different continuity line.

      Batman Forever is not batman 3. They sold it to a different studio; they couldn't call it batman 3. Not a sequel but they sorta tried to pass it off for one.

    8. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by timeOday · · Score: 1
      I dunno, it's gonna be hard to be more real than a guy falling into a vat of acid, having plastic surgery done to make himself look like clown and then defacing an art museum while dancing around to Prince music....
      And that was the best scene from any of the batflicks so far!
    9. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Cplus · · Score: 1

      I know it's bound to happen at some point, but I would really rather not see anything done in the style of 'Sin City' anytime soon. It would take away from the uniqueness of the work. Frank Miller's directorial influence on 'Sin City' isn't something that we'll see happen again without it being under very special circumstances...Miller is a nazi about interpretations of his work. That's a good thing, imo.

      I'm glad to see an interpretation of Batman: Year One, but I don't expect it to be nearly as comic-booky as 'Sin City' or 'Constantine'...which in my opinion was a wonderful adaptation, just not a truly saleable movie.

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    10. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is the Old batman. Christ, its the same story over and over again. Why not touch upon something like the Dark Knight Returns? Would moral ambiguity confuse the movie-goers?

      Good vs. Evil, man becomes bat, blah blah. Burton did this very well back in what? 90?

    11. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "There will be lots in this movie* that doesn't line up with the other 4 flicks, because it's in a completely different continuity line."

      I still reserve the right to bitch!! I won't even let a show about time-travel get away with that!

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    12. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      > It's not a Sin City

      Which is just as well. Marv is one of the few non-superhumans who could beat the holy hell out of Batman at his best.

      Reed Flemming, World's Toughest Milkman is the other.

      I'd hate to see Marv and Reed in a fight. Son of a bitch that'd be awesome!

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    13. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Or maybe more real than announcing you're giving away tens of millions of dollars, then having a parade with a sparse crowd to receive the tossed cash.

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    14. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Adrilla · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I always wanted to see a movie version of the "Knightfall" storyline, where Bane breaks Wayne's back and Azrael runs ass crazy as his successor. I know it'd be hard to get such a deep storyline into one film, but it was such a great and groundbreaking comic book story at the time with good emotion that I always thought if done right it could become one of the best batman movies out there...I can still dream I guess.

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    15. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by macthulhu · · Score: 1

      Reed Fucking Flemming. Hell yes.

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    16. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Batman is not flying. He is gliding, using the rails sewn into the edges of his cape.

      He's not flying. He's falling with style.

    17. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by johnjay · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm sure there are disertations about how superheros reflect the current culture. I'm no authority, but I would predict that this Batman will be angrier, more violent and more sure of that he is right then earlier versions were.

      I would bet that, of all the things that might go on with this version Batman, if he is shackled by moral uncertainty the movie won't do so well. People are probably in the mood for a hero who knows what's right and is willing to do terrible things to the bad guys.

      As long as it's dark, I will probably like the movie either way. A dark Batman of any kind is far preferrable to the bubblegum variety.

    18. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Flounder · · Score: 1
      All I want to see before I die is Jim Belushi as Reid Fleming, standing on top of the milk truck screaming down the street.

      "78 cents or I piss on your flowers!"

      Reid Fleming vs Milkman Dan!

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    19. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Dionysus · · Score: 1

      Batman Begins is actually taken from Batman: Year One,

      It might have been influenced by Batman: Year One, but it isn't taken from that story. Batman Begins deals with his training before becoming Batman. Batman: Year One deals with his first year as Batman (after donning the suit).

      The director and writer of Batman Begins made the conscious choice of dealing with an aspect of the Batman mythos that hadn't been covered that much in the comics (according to Christian Bale).

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    20. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I never understood this "invented character X in story A could kick the crap out of invented character Y in story B" nonsense.

      I mean, how about I create a character called UBERBRAWLFIST 3000 and claim that he is so powerful he could take Marv out in one blow?

      I think these statements actually mean "I like character X more than character Y."

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    21. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Infinite+Entropy · · Score: 1

      Actually if I could pick one and only one comic to be made into a movie it would be "The Killing Joke" where Joker shoots Batgirl in the spine, paralyzing her. Very intense story, and really shows what a psychopath the Joker is.

    22. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by British · · Score: 1

      It's not even the old Batmobile. It's the tumbler, the precursor to any Bruce-designed rides. This was a prototype vehicle developed at Wayne Enterprises R&D for military purposes, and the project got scrapped.

      Ahh that does justify my theory of Batman's fancy gadgets and gizmos. He's a millionaire, he has R&D resources. He just has projects made, the military rejects them(or doesn't know about them), he says "okay I'll take that prototype there" and boom, he's equipped.

      Looking at the previews, this looks a lot less campy(ie none) than the previous Batman movies, and I'm all for it. While the dark, towering Gotham city was nicely done by Tim Burton, this looks to be better. Nice to see a backstory too. I don't want any consistency with the previous movies.

    23. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It also means you lack imagination.

    24. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "
      All I can say is "good!". After the last two debacles the only tenable option was to his the big red PANIC!/RESTART! button in the corner, ignore the existence of anything else and try again.
      "
      You mean pick up the batphone? ;)

    25. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even I, with with my low IQ, would think it was a trap. So the people there must have been even dumber than me.

    26. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      I dunno...My favorite was where Joker had just killed Jack Palance and was sitting at Palance's desk reading the paper about Batman and going:

      "Batman? Terrorizes? Wait 'til they get a load of me! Oooop! Oooop! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

      I quoted that line for days...

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    27. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I always wanted to start a club for people with low IQs, I would call it DENSA.

    28. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      No. Best scenes in teh Batman movies was Michelle Pfeiffer's big entrance as Catwoman - the one with the backflips and the explosion.

      Kinky thought: Michelle Pfeiffer knows how to swing a bullwhip.

    29. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Batman is not flying. He is gliding, using the rails sewn into the edges of his cape.... The director wanted everything in this movie to be believable and realistic. It's going to be darker and more real

      Yeah, because in real life, people glide using stiffened capes all the damn time.

    30. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Funny
      I mean, how about I create a character called UBERBRAWLFIST 3000 and claim that he is so powerful he could take Marv out in one blow?

      Yeah, but Son Gokuu would totally kick UBERBRAWLFIST 3000's ass. Even without becoming a Suupaa Saiyajin.

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    31. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

      I would bet that, of all the things that might go on with this version Batman, if he is shackled by moral uncertainty the movie won't do so well. People are probably in the mood for a hero who knows what's right and is willing to do terrible things to the bad guys.

      Probably a bad idea to have chosen Christopher Nolan to direct it, then. Given that Memento had a main character who may (or may not) have unwittingly been used as a tool by some rather shady characters in order to kill their rivals, and Insomnia had a police officer attempting to conceal his accidental shooting and killing of a colleague, I think 'moral uncertainty' is, erm, a near-certainty in this new Batman film.

      Even if Mr. Wayne is certain of his actions, that won't necessarily be portrayed as a good thing...

      As a fan of Christopher Nolan's films already, I've been waiting for this new one with some trepidation - I knew it was either going to be awful or awesome. Luckily, from the trailer it appears to be tending towards the latter. :-)

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    32. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by markhb · · Score: 1
      1. Where, anywhere in The Dark Knight Returns, does Bruce Wayne experience any self-doubt or moral ambiguity whatsoever? He barely flinches when Carrie, hesitantly, appoints herself as the new Robin!
      2. It went by very quickly, but I think I did see a reference to Dark Knight: isn't that Batman on a stallion in that quick montage near the end?

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    33. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by johnjay · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I didn't realize that this director was the same guy who did both Insomnia and Memento--both movies that I thought were very well done. That bodes well for Batman (and, yes, almost insures moral ambiguity).

    34. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1

      Then you should avoid this site completely. :->

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    35. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by stor · · Score: 1

      Even if Mr. Wayne is certain of his actions, that won't necessarily be portrayed as a good thing...

      This could be ok, so long as the movie doesn't dwell on the moralistic issues too much. I think the more sensitive of us just need a hint of conflict to realise the existence of philosophical undercurrents.

      There are dark Batman comics available yes? If Nolan has taken some good bits from these comics we could be in for a pretty decent flick. I'm glad Christian Bale is the protagonist: he was great in American Psycho.

      I really enjoyed the X-Men and X2 movies. The action and special effects are great, the main actors and their characters are solid, the moral issues are well-presented and the plots hold together. Certainly not the best films ever but certainly amongst the best comic->film translations.

      I hope Batman Begins is done as well.

      Cheers
      Stor

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    36. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Bedouin+X · · Score: 1

      As far as I'm concerned, if Batman drives it, it's the fucking Batmobile. Plus to bears a small rsemblance to the Frank Miller Batmobile.

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    37. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by Refrag · · Score: 1

      Dude, Batman could totally kick UBERBRAWLFIST 3000's ass!

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    38. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by nametaken · · Score: 1

      People are probably in the mood for a hero who knows what's right and is willing to do terrible things to the bad guys.

      As long as it's dark, I will probably like the movie either way. A dark Batman of any kind is far preferrable to the bubblegum variety.


      That was what The Punisher was for. :)

      Unfortunatly, I didn't exactly love that movie either... but it was bettter than the Dolph Lundgren* version. I was kinda hoping they'd have the Punisher show up in Daredevil to whoop Bennifer's ass.

      "He's nut u mun, he's uh muchine"

    39. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by BK425 · · Score: 1

      "I think these statements actually mean "I like character X more than character Y.""

      Um, ya think?
      -UBERBRAWLFIST3001

    40. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by joshmccormack · · Score: 1

      Did you hear the monologue in Kill Bill 2 about Superman?

      "An essential characteristic of the superhero mythology is, there's the superhero, and there's the alter ego. Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When he wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man. And it is in that characteristic that Superman stands alone. Superman did not become Superman, Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears, the glasses, the business suit, that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent? He's weak, he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race. Sort of like Beatrix Kiddo and Mrs. Tommy Plympton. "

    41. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by UWC · · Score: 1

      I actually just read that two nights ago. Had been looking in shops for it for a while but finally resorted to Amazon. It's very much a Moore story. Felt a lot like parts of Watchmen. Might have been the 80s art style in part. I liked it, but... either I somehow misread the ending, or Batman is crazier than anyone would imagine. Joker just paralyzed Batgirl (paving the way for super-librarian Oracle, which I find to be a really great name for what she does after that) after killing several others, and then tries to destroy Gordon's sanity completely. And Batman laughs. Maybe I should read it again, and Joker realized that he really was abnormal and admitted it to Batman, but even then, the laughing Batman seemed a little off after the night's other events. Managed to fit a lot in a reasonably short story, though. Definitely among the top Batman stories I've read, and manages to feel modern Batman-ish without being Millesque.

    42. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by UWC · · Score: 1
      I never got around to watching Volume 2, but I've read that monologue a couple of times and it doesn't sit right with me. The first thing that struck me is that since the 80s, and maybe before, Bruce Wayne has been Batman's disguise. Wayne is there to keep Waynecorp running and keep Batman funded. The second thing is Spider-Man, though it's a more valid point. While the whole Spider-Man deal is an extension and coping mechanism for Parker's guilt, it does seem to be kept mostly separate from his civilian self, though lines blur, and the comic medium's use of internal monologue helps that blurring. Especially in Batman stories.

      And then there's Superman. I see him as being Smallville Clark Kent with two disguises. One is Metropolis Kent who is all doubt and meekness. The other is Superman, infallible and utterly confident. Both seem to be extremes of Clark's actual personality. He's full of self doubt and guilt, but is fundamentally set on doing what's right for as many people as possible. I'd really suggest you read "Superman for all Seasons" by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale. It's a pretty great retelling of Clark's life from arrival in Smallville to the beginnings of Superman's dealings with Luthor in Metropolis.

      I know the monologue in Kill Bill was intentionally cynical, and maybe it fits better with Silver Age stories, but in recent times, as storytelling has gotten better, the lines between hero and civilian have been very well blurred, as well as definitive knowledge of who is who.

    43. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by lgw · · Score: 1

      If Batman had time to prepare, you mean.

      It's a ritualistic phrase, you have to say it to fit in.

      "Batman could kick Xs ass, if he had time to prepare".

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    44. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by lgw · · Score: 1

      The whip work was all going to be done by a stuntwoman, but Michelle insisted she could learn t do all thewhip tricks herself, and pulled it off quite nicely. It does make you wonder.

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    45. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by joshmccormack · · Score: 1

      ...maybe it fits better with Silver Age stories, but in recent times

      Good call. He was talking about old school stuff, and while I'm not a big comics guy I agree that characters have become more complex. Thanks.

    46. Re:Before anyone brings it up... by LMariachi · · Score: 1

      He doesn't experience the moral ambiguity, he embodies it.

  8. Direct Links courtesy of AICN talkback by hyperm0g · · Score: 5, Informative
  9. Direct Link by KuNgFo0 · · Score: 1, Redundant
    1. Re:Direct Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thank you kung foo

  10. DVD Jon, where are you??? by Trinition · · Score: 1

    Too bad for that... Apple is probably just trying, like usual, to leverage it's involvement into more users of it's products. Scary, that... when you think of how far convergence and consolidation can take us.

    I don't know about you, but I'm anxiously waiting for another super-hero, DVD Jon, to de-iTunes the full screen version for me!

    1. Re:DVD Jon, where are you??? by raduga · · Score: 2, Funny
      I don't know about you, but I'm anxiously waiting for another super-hero, DVD Jon,

      No, no, you've got that all wrong.

      DVD Jon is the Arch Villain- stealing

      • TV shows from babies
      • Software from bodacious busty blondes
      • and Music from little old ladies
      The loathsome cur!
      I hope that Batman totally kicks his ass.
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  11. Bad PR for Linux by GillBates0 · · Score: 2, Funny
    I stopped watching Batman (shows, cartoons, comic books) after I realized what an anti-Linux zealots he and Robin are.This comic strip is just one example of Batman committing hate crimes against Mr. Penguin (clearly a stand in for Tux).

    Batman is clearly another bit of Microsoft inspired FUD against Linux. I bet the Bat-mobile runs Windows too.

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    1. Re:Bad PR for Linux by ThaDerro · · Score: 0

      Probably why the Batmobile always crashes in the movies... boom-tish.. thankyou! i'll be here all week.. try the beef salad!

  12. Re:Never rub another man's rhubarb by peculiarmethod · · Score: 1

    since the comic book was replaced by video games and tv (mostly by ease of use).

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  13. Spiderman Similarity by bryan8m · · Score: 0

    This new Batman looks awfully similar to Spiderman (a great movie). I miss the old Batman cartoons and comics I used to read as a child!

    1. Re:Spiderman Similarity by zenneth · · Score: 1

      Really? Let's see if there are obvious similarities...

      1. Dead parents? Check.
      2. Cool anti-criminal gadgets? Check.
      3. Numerous girlfriends being used as leverage by the bad guys? Check.
      4: People who inevitably learn of their secret lives? Check.
      5: Been a member of a Super-Team? Check.

      Nope. Nothing to see here. Move along.

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    2. Re:Spiderman Similarity by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      What superhero DOESN'T that checklist apply to?

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  14. Equilibrium by Kaenneth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is a good action movie with Bale, go rent it.

    1. Re:Equilibrium by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

      I like Bale but the "gun-fu" in equilibrium really didn't do it for me. I'm not sure if it was the actual action or the cinematography but something just didnt click

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    2. Re:Equilibrium by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      I found it great to watch. What happens is that's not a very realistic way of using weapons, but the effect in the movie was terrific IMHO. Specially in the final scene...

      *SPOILER* ...between him and the Big-Brother-wannabe, exchanging bullets and trying to dodge and get a clear shot at each other at the time. Great stuff.

    3. Re:Equilibrium by Malfourmed · · Score: 1

      I thought Bale was very good in Equilibrium and think he'll make a fine Batman mainly because of his performance in that movie. But the movie itself relied too much on hyperbole and cliche to be effective. That said, I respect Kurt Wimmer whose audio commentaries on the DVD were insightful, informative and entertaining.

    4. Re:equilibrium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    5. Re:Equilibrium by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1

      Of course Equilibrium has been done before a billion times. It's not cool for its plot, although I do like the way that same old dystopia is presented in the movie. It's nothing new, just a pleasent backdrop for the cool action and interesting character developments.

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    6. Re:Equilibrium by 5n3ak3rp1mp · · Score: 1

      Very much one of those movies with a high ratio of quality/popularity. I watched it on a strong recommendation, enjoyed it highly (even with all the references to other sci-fi works), and everyone I've shown it to has also enjoyed it.

      Christian Bale acted well in this flick as well as in American Psycho. (Although my fraternity friends unfortunately still love to quote that one line where he yells "Don't just look at her ass, eat it!")

    7. Re:Equilibrium by Bamafan77 · · Score: 1

      To this day, I'm annoyed that this movie didn't get more coverage than it did. When it was released, I'd never heard anything about it and my aunt of all people had to drag me to see it. Well, needless to say I was completely blown away. This Penny Arcade comic pretty much captures my state of being after watching Equilibrium. :)

    8. Re:Equilibrium by Infinite+Entropy · · Score: 1

      I can't imagine in what circumstances, except the one in the movie, where it would be appropriate to quote that line. Do they also like to quote the "Ass to ass!" line from Requiem for a Dream?

    9. Re:Equilibrium by TheLoneDanger · · Score: 1

      In the commentary, Wimmer says he wasn't very happy with that scene, but that they ran out of time, and he couldn't re-work it. I agree with you in that I really liked that scene too, personally.

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    10. Re:Equilibrium by soliptic · · Score: 1

      Assuming your definition of the word "good" is "toe-curlingly awful", I quite agree. Otherwise, save yourself a few dollars.

    11. Re:Equilibrium by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

      There were some sequences I enjoyed, but in others I felt like I was watching Power Rangers with guns. I'd hafta go back and watch the movie over to pick out examples, but I left it feeling like it would have been alot better if the gun-fu hadn't been so showy (for lack of a better word)

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    12. Re:Equilibrium by 5n3ak3rp1mp · · Score: 1

      Well, it comes up only when discussing the movie, which happens infrequently.

  15. I was about to complain by Atroxodisse · · Score: 1

    I remember seeing the trailor a while ago and seeing that vehicle. I prayed to the dark lords of the sith that it wasn't the new batmobile. So assuming you are right they have answered my prayers. The new batmobile better not suck though.

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    1. Re:I was about to complain by johnjay · · Score: 1

      Why would it suck if that was the new Batmobile? I mean, sure it doesn't look like the old Batmobile, but it still looks cool. Sort of trading a fast look for a tough look. I don't have a strong opinion (I like the new ugliness), just wondering...

    2. Re:I was about to complain by Atroxodisse · · Score: 1

      Sometimes artistic license is a bad thing, especially in movies. I expect the batmobile to look a certain way and if it doesn't then the whole movie won't feel like "Batman". If it doesn't, then what was the point of using the batman license? Just make another movie with a similar character.

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    3. Re:I was about to complain by Azrael+Newtype · · Score: 1

      You may be interested to note that its design is taken directly from a Batman comic, specifically Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns. Perhaps you've heard of it. This isn't even artistic license here, it's pulling an element from one of the most dark and gritty interpretations of the character into this new darker and grittier movie world.

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  16. Well this cannot be right... by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 4, Funny

    A trailer for a DC Comic turned movie that looks good? What? I must be in some bizzaro world...

    Seriously though, this trailer looks just awesome... Dare I say it, it looks the way Batman should have been done - just like how Spiderman 1 and 2 were done: Exceptionally well.

    To make things even more frozen over in hell, I a Unix geek, now have a girlfriend, and she codes, and she is cute...

    Batman looking good, hot coder girlfriend, where did I get these drugs again?

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    1. Re:Well this cannot be right... by tigerknight · · Score: 1

      Damn you to hell. :]

    2. Re:Well this cannot be right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your number is 12943 and you didn't have a girlfriend until now? What, did you just quit the priesthood?

    3. Re:Well this cannot be right... by DarkHelmet · · Score: 4, Funny

      I must be in some bizzaro world...

      Just don't give turtle-face batman a peanut. He's allergic

      (reference for those who didn't get it)

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    4. Re:Well this cannot be right... by pappy97 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well the director of this movie is Chris Nolan, who you might know as the brilliant guy that brought us MEMENTO.

      No surprise that Batman Begins looks so damn good: So much of it has to do with Chris Nolan as director.

    5. Re:Well this cannot be right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate to break it to you, but I know your girlfriend, and "she" has a penis.

      (THAT should make for an awkward discussion later on. Heh heh.)

    6. Re:Well this cannot be right... by tentimestwenty · · Score: 1

      I don't know. The realistic approach is a cool twist, but a pretty big part of the Batman allure is the fact that he's mysterious. I don't really want to know where all his training and powers come from unless it's so freakin' amazing no one could have guessed it. You know, Superman had Kryptonite and all that, but this could so easily turn into the Hulk with Batman having some existential conversation with his shrink half way through the movie.

      What I would have really liked to see in a "Batman Begins" is something set in the 1930s, film noir style. Then you could have "realism" and the mystery would be built into the period and the sets etc. Not even too many special effects, just a good simple villain played by someone like Benicio Del Toro. I don't even care about super powers or vats of acid. If you're going to do some realism, just give me a convincing story with some dark actors.

    7. Re:Well this cannot be right... by rainman_bc · · Score: 1

      A trailer for a DC Comic turned movie that looks good? What? I must be in some bizzaro world...

      Let's see what happens when we get to see Superman Returns

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    8. Re:Well this cannot be right... by cujo_1111 · · Score: 1

      Dare I say it, it looks the way Batman should have been done - just like how Spiderman 1 and 2 were done: Exceptionally well.

      Geez, your opinion now counts for absolutely nothing...

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    9. Re:Well this cannot be right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, I happen to think it is your opinion which is questionable here...

    10. Re:Well this cannot be right... by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 1

      Damn you to hell. :]

      Don't hate me because I am beautiful... ;)

      Seriously though, take the salesmans approach (something I learned when doing commissioned sales) the more people you contact the more sales you get.

      I just signed up with a ton of online dating services, and got my name out there. After meeting (via email or MSN) about 250 women, I met this one. She is incredibly attractive, and she loves all the same hobbies I do (outdoors, kayaking, hiking etc) and hell, she even likes the "no I will not fix your computer" shirt from thinkgeek. That, and she used to run an Oracle server...

      I could not be more pleased - still, I went through about 250 matches before I met her. Give it a shot, it worked for me. (Took about 6 months of searching, still it was all worth it! ) :)

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    11. Re:Well this cannot be right... by jonnystiph · · Score: 1

      During the movie, I fed turtle face a whole bag of peanuts.

      Thank you Capt. Murphy, for making us want to live again.

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      If we don't make light of everything, we are just stumbling in the dark - Blank

    12. Re:Well this cannot be right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of MEMENTO:

      Did anyone ever finish the sourceforge project to come up with a bash script that would play the MEMENTO DVD in the correct chronological order?

      I heard the top coder was asked to cure cancer instead...by his girlfriend, no less...

    13. Re:Well this cannot be right... by Ricardo+Lima · · Score: 1

      No, but the Brazilian version of the DVD gave us that option!

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    14. Re:Well this cannot be right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those must be some good drugs, or your girlfriend is blind, because you are one ugly bastard.

  17. Dork Tower by RoloDMonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think this comic from Dork Tower says it all.

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  18. Better than the last two? by sjbe · · Score: 2, Funny

    At the very least it looks like it will be far and away superior to the last couple of Batman films.

    Talk about damning with faint praise...

  19. Are you just fucking dumb? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no new batmobile! This is the ONLY vehicle in the movie, and it's not a batmobile!

    Jesus ape-raping Christ, the batmobile is not like Air Force One! Every car that Batman gets in does not automatically become "the next batmobile"

    It's the fucking precursor! Fuck!

    1. Re:Are you just fucking dumb? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Settle down, Beavis.

    2. Re:Are you just fucking dumb? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ooooh, good use of 'ape-raping'!

  20. Batman's late! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmm.. seems like Batman is late, Katie Holmes just started dating dating Tom Cruise.

  21. Re:LOTR+Matrix+007... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean, like, a movie starring Pierce Brosnan digitally penetrating some guy's ring?

  22. Re:Never rub another man's rhubarb by nawspac · · Score: 1

    I had the C64 one, it was pretty cool. But... i couldnt get very far in it, got so mad at that damn game my mom grounded me from it. never say it again.

  23. Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I live in stately Wayne Manor. My name is Bruce Wayne. I'm 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself, and a balanced diet and a rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do a thousand now. After I remove the ice pack, I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower, I use a water activated gel cleanser. Then a honey almond body scrub. And on the face, an exfoliating gel scrub. Then apply an herb mint facial mask, which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an aftershave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion. There is an idea of a Bruce Wayne, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me. Only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our life styles are probably comparable, I simply am not there.

    1. Re:Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny shit

    2. Re:Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will James Van Der Beek be the next Riddler? Can Robert Downey Jr. stay out of jail long enough to be Two Face? Only Bret Easton Ellis knows for sure.

      Deal with it.

    3. Re:Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Just incase anyone didn't pick it up, the parent post's quote is an adaptation of a defining quote from American Psychob

    4. Re:Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? by shigelojoe · · Score: 4, Funny

      I heard the next Batman movie is going to be titled "Batman Returns Some Videotapes".

    5. Re:Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      Did anybody get the point that American Psycho was a satire on yuppies?

      I never read the whole book, just scanned it, and I could see that. I did see the movie and it seemed to re-emphasize it to me.

      It's like Thomas Harris and the Lector series - the whole series is nothing but satire. I mean, an FBI agent who is so good at getting into the mind of a serial killer that he freaks out, another FBI agent who's obsessed with her career because of a lamb who ends up sleeping with Lector, and a psychiatrist who is a cannibal.

      I mean, c'mon. That and the fact that Harris is reputed to have a wicked dark sense of humor.

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    6. Re:Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't remember a lamb sleeping with Lector?!!?!?

      *DUCKS*

    7. Re:Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Did anybody get the point that American Psycho was a satire on yuppies?

      Duh, It's so obvious.

      Oh, and check in latin what "lector" means, so that you know who that character refers to.
    8. Re:Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? by flutkatastrophe · · Score: 2, Informative

      Excellent reference to American Psycho. I'm always suprised that more people don't come out with "Hey, that Bruce Wayne guy is a freak."

    9. Re:Do you like Huey Lewis and the News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did anybody get the point that American Psycho was a satire on yuppies?

      Captain Obvious called and he wants the Obviousmobile back.

  24. The impact. by TheEditorJonKatz · · Score: 5, Funny

    One has to ponder the socio-economic impact that batman has had on our culture. In a post 9/11 world, one has to take into consideration that kids, seeing this man become a vigilante and being revered for it, will soon immitate him and start their own crime-catching crusade.

    1. Re:The impact. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a joke, right? You don't actually expect kids to imitate this guy beyond trying to fight each other and pretending their Batman.

    2. Re:The impact. by oscartheduck · · Score: 0

      Either a joke in its own right or a reference to The Dark Knight Returns or both.

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    3. Re:The impact. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol it wasn't funny until i looked at the parent's name hahaha

    4. Re:The impact. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      ... crusade

      Someone else used this word in a speech recently. Who was it?

    5. Re:The impact. by lewiz · · Score: 1

      ... good?

    6. Re:The impact. by cujo_1111 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And then be labelled as terrorists...

      Vigilantes, freedom fighters and terrorists are all the same thing, it just depends on what view point you come from, the boss or the underling.

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    7. Re:The impact. by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      As Wolverine put it: "Terrorists? Yeah...That's what the big army calls the little army."

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    8. Re:The impact. by HD+Webdev · · Score: 2, Funny

      One has to ponder the socio-economic impact that batman has had on our culture. In a post 9/11 world, one has to take into consideration that kids, seeing this man become a vigilante and being revered for it, will soon immitate him and start their own crime-catching crusade.

      Hence the ' this costume does not enable you to fly' warnings '.

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    9. Re:The impact. by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      And then be labelled as terrorists...

      Hey, Batman's not a terrorist! If he was a terrorist he'd live in a cave with a bunch of loyal followers and train them to fight a secretive guerrilla war against anything that offended his personal moral code.

      In addition, if Batman were a terrorist the Joker would long ago have given up on trying to find the Batcave, left Gotham and started causing trouble in Metropolis, on the basis that there's a definite connection to Batman even if he isn't actually there.

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    10. Re:The impact. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Fairness - you've read DKR/DKSB right? He basically does this.

    11. Re:The impact. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, we did it as kids. I was Steelclaw. My "costume" involved a metal gauntlet. We picked up some of the "mutant ID cards" at the comic book store and used those as our vigilante IDs.

      What, you didn't too? :)

    12. Re:The impact. by ElaborateCalculator · · Score: 1

      Someone's channeling the spirit of Bartholomew Wolper
      :)

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    13. Re:The impact. by gg3po · · Score: 1

      So does this mean we're finally gonna get Bin Laden?

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    14. Re:The impact. by negative.logic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      but he does live in a cave - maybe he's training the bats to be his evil army of the night. I'm sure you could strap some grenads to them and then make them fly into crowded areas....

  25. Ya know... by Transcendent · · Score: 1

    ...what's more annoying than a site being slashdotted? It being slashdotted when a trailer download is 3/4 done...

  26. Yup, pretty crappy... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Yup, pretty crappy... by haluness · · Score: 1

      Simply hilarious!

  27. A must-see for me...but only after researching by Cplus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Dark? - Check.

    Good Director? - Check. (not that Burton wasn't..it just went wrong somewhere) You might remember Chris Nolan from Memento, Insomnia, and Following (good, but under-budgeted and not quite flash enough). He's definitely the kind of director that gets entirely inside the head of his characters.

    Good Writer? - Unsure. David Goyer has spawned such pap as the three Blade movies and the sequel to The Crow...no way to call if he can pull it off. Then again, he did write 'Dark City', so he's had his moments.

    Christian Bale? - No comment...we'll see.

    This has the potential to be the creepiest Batman yet. I've always considered 'the bat' to be someone that everyone should be a little unsure about, not just a someone that kicks ass.

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    1. Re:A must-see for me...but only after researching by Ubergrendle · · Score: 1

      In this case Goyer is transcribing alot of "Batman: Year One" by Frank Miller, which is just slightly the lesser of 'The Dark Knight Returns' (but not by much). Even if 50% of the material is transcribed faithfully this movie will have some merit.

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    2. Re:A must-see for me...but only after researching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christian Bale? - No comment...we'll see.

      What? Have you not seen American Psycho? I could not imagine a better Bruce Wayne/Batman.

    3. Re:A must-see for me...but only after researching by Cplus · · Score: 1

      I saw it years ago, can't remember if it was a bad movie or a bad performance...didn't want to comment on something and be talking out my ass.

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    4. Re:A must-see for me...but only after researching by Cplus · · Score: 1

      I definitely agree that Miller is the master when it comes to Batman. From what I've read, a lot of the story in the movie is the stuff leading up to the beginning of 'Batman: Year One'...which I loved, and apparently the rest of it is by no means 100% faithful to Miller's work. That said, Chris Nolan is apparently a co-writer, and he has definitely proven himself in the past. I'm hopeful.

      Hell, I just read Kevin Smith's review of Revenge of the Sith and now I'm a little hopeful about that one too. Don't click that link if you're not prepared for major spoilers. BTW, his verdict is very good, and he describes the film as "dark, dark, dark".

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    5. Re:A must-see for me...but only after researching by squaretorus · · Score: 1

      Agree - bats should be slightly odd. I've always thought the bat movies should be a mix of wierd alternate world, dark scary inside the wayne head view, downtrodden gotham resident view, and a good dose of kicking the shit out of the bad guys. The bad guys should be in the 'fuck up the world' mindset - not the 'take over the world' mindset. And it should LOOK amazing with quite crass overly horny love interest. Tim Burton should do an animated one with quite a small story. THAT would kick ass.

    6. Re:A must-see for me...but only after researching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      someone that everyone should be a little unsure about

      Here's a tip: Don't invite the guy in the batsuit to your party; get the Wayne guy, he'll probably bring a couple hookers, ahem I mean escorts to the party.

    7. Re:A must-see for me...but only after researching by Refrag · · Score: 1

      Christian Bale was very good in Equilibrium.

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    8. Re:A must-see for me...but only after researching by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

      Tim Burton should do an animated one with quite a small story. THAT would kick ass.
      Batman: The Animated Series by Bruce W. Timm and Paul Dini was already the PERFECT animated Batman. The new "young" "edgy" Batman cartoon on the WB is crap. No animated Batman will ever hold up to the mainstream DC Animated universe Batman (who's still going strong as part of the cast on Justice League Unlimited)

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    9. Re:A must-see for me...but only after researching by UWC · · Score: 1
      It's too bad that Mark Hamill has mostly sworn off the Joker voice, though. Hamill's Joker was amazing throughout the animated series, and in Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker. Hamill claims the laugh was ruining his voice, though.

      And yeah, "The Batman" is unwatchable. The only redeeming part is that the voice actor for Joker seemed to at least partly try to emulate Hamill. At least in the first episode. I don't know if he's shown up again or not.

  28. wow. by Sebadude · · Score: 1

    There is some crazy good acting in this trailer, by all involved.

    No offense to the Serenity fans out there, but it's like night and day between this trailer and that one.

    Of course, this doesn't say squat about the quality of the final product as a movie, but I'll give it my 10 bucks to find out.

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    1. Re:wow. by Babbster · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The Serenity trailer was really crappy. The problem is that MOST trailers are really crappy and are pitiful indicators of a movie quality. The studios have their couple of trailer formulas that they rinse and repeat (I'm convinced they don't lather) over and over again.

      I agree that the Batman trailer is superior to the Serenity trailer but I found the Batman trailer similarly tired. Just like the covers of books, movie trailers are rarely designed by their creators. Thus, it's pointless to try to make an informed judgement on either movie until they hit theaters.

    2. Re:wow. by Sebadude · · Score: 1

      Agreed, the trailer is nothing but typical. I was only commenting on the quality of the acting, which makes me look forward to the movie. All the lines are also pretty good, which is also a good sign.

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  29. Once Again, into the fire! by Milikki · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Another un-obfuscated URL :)

    http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/batman_begins/ba tman_begins-tlr4a_m480.mov

    Someone make that clicky for the D/L

    Kevin

    1. Re:Once Again, into the fire! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called "right click and save as", dumbass.

    2. Re:Once Again, into the fire! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a Mac user you insensitive clod!

  30. release date Jun 15th???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    after the trailer, date shown was Jun 15..
    whereas posters etc have Jun 17..

    interesting.

  31. But I liked Batman Forever. by tu_holmes · · Score: 5, Funny

    I really thought Batman Forever was pretty good. I should probably say something more, but really, I thought the film was pretty decent on it's own right.

    1. Re:But I liked Batman Forever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i like batman forever and batman and robin

      ive never really seen the complete batman or batman returns.. just bits when its on tv.. didnt care for what i saw

      (decided to post anonymous to prevent hurt feelings)

    2. Re:But I liked Batman Forever. by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

      I think Val Kilmer is good at playing dark characters; I enjoyed Batman Forever as well. However, my parents hated that movie, and here's their excuse: Val Kilmer is too depressing.
      Me: Mom, Dad. That's the whole point to Batman!

  32. American Psycho... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also an action movie of sorts, American Psycho is really good too. It's one of the best 10 movies of the last decade. His performance is outstanding, on par with any single performance by any actor for any single memorable character.

    Bale's a great actor. He even made Shaft watchable.

    1. Re:American Psycho... by Adrilla · · Score: 1

      Nothing better than a man trying to feed a cat to an ATM machine

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      "Plans are for fools! Oglethorpe, the plutonian (Aqua Teen Hunger Force)
    2. Re:American Psycho... by johnjay · · Score: 4, Funny

      Free advice. Although American Psycho is a great movie, with a real mind-fuck ending, it is NOT a first-date movie. It's really hard to convince a girl to get cuddly after she's seen a movie like that. The more clean-cut and all-American you look, the more jumpy she's going to be.

    3. Re:American Psycho... by Scudsucker · · Score: 2, Informative

      The more clean-cut and all-American you look, the more jumpy she's going to be.

      Just tell her that Christian Bale is from Wales, then. :)

    4. Re:American Psycho... by jonnystiph · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ree advice. Although American Psycho is a great movie, with a real mind-fuck ending

      I am not sure if this is a flame or a troll or just opinionated, perhaps all. However, that movie was terrible. Plot holes so large Mac trucks were driving through the screen. The ending was obvious and trite. The acting was wooden and wrong, the social commentary that could be contained in a Rob Schnieder film. Please someone tell me WHAT THE FUCK was so appealing about this movie? Do I need to read the book? Is the book better? Inform, enlighten, please.

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    5. Re:American Psycho... by johnjay · · Score: 1

      Just opinionated. Don't know how you could consider it a flame or a troll.
      POSSIBLE SPOILERS
      I thought the ending with the real-estate agent was a mind-fuck. Maybe I'm too simple.
      The social commentary wasn't particularly deep, but it was well done. The movie was based on one idea and took that to it's absurd/logical/horrifying conclusion. If you don't accept the premise, I can understand not liking the movie. I liked the premise, though, and so thought the movie was good and entertaining.

    6. Re:American Psycho... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      in the movie at least it's clear(to me) that the guy is just plain fucking insane and the movie is made from his view.

      so - having plotholes would fit quite well into an insane mind, right? which is why it didn't bother that much later.

      and well.. i just watched it while being drunk at a party anyways so.. not that great but had it's funny moments.

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    7. Re:American Psycho... by widderslainte · · Score: 1

      Yes, you need to read the book. Bale does a good job, but overall the film is a pale reflection of the book. The book is incredible.

    8. Re:American Psycho... by gekkotron · · Score: 0

      To widderslainte's comment, Ditto Ditto Ditto!

      The intricacies of the writing, the fixation on brand names and product details, the nonchalance with which the main character carries out all these really brutal murders, and the fact that he tells people he does it but no one listens all don't really come through in the movie.

      My favorite line is when the character is telling a girl in a noisy bar that his business is "murders and executions" and she hears "mergers and acquisitions".

      Read it, but it's not for the squeamish. Very graphic descriptions of both violence and consumer products lie therein.

  33. I'm confused... by slapout · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...is this an even-numbered film?

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    1. Re:I'm confused... by rokzy · · Score: 1

      it is if you start counting from zero.

    2. Re:I'm confused... by KillShill · · Score: 1

      if batman is in it, it's both odd and even numbered.

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    3. Re:I'm confused... by rob_squared · · Score: 0

      Since it's #0, a prequil, it is neither even nor odd by definition. So we just won't know until we see it.

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      I don't get it.
  34. Nerds dress badly too by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1
    I also thought "WTF is this news for nerds? WTF is this stuff that matters?" Then I recall that, as a geek I also dress badly. Sure, I normally get my underwear on the inside, but I don't dress like a sales droid.

    Also, we've all been knocked around by jock-types and have this secret superhero thing... maybe we'll save the world somehow and eventtually get some oohs and aahs from the citizens.

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  35. just the tip of the iceberg - Re:iTunes?! by cwg_at_opc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    for those of you who haven't read any of the musings over at http://www.macsimumnews.com/, you should realise that this is one of those 'oh yeah, i should have seen _that_ coming shouldn't i?' things.

    the folks over at macsimum news seem to think that apple is poised to be at the center of the media/entertainment(http://www.macsimumnews.com/in dex.php/search/results/1e6ceff0d8b3e098d0784ca4fae c710e// world when HD/movies/etc over-IP happens.

    besides, why wouldn't apple want to use a media distribution channel they've already got tons of experience using and serving for (how)many years?

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  36. What they really have to do... by Headcase88 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... is make another campy movie like from the 60s. I mean, first, you've got the bomb. Then, you've got the costumes. And if that's not enough, you've got the quotes. Here's a quick taste of what you'd expect:

    Gordon: Penguin, Joker, Riddler... and Catwoman, too! The sum of the angles of that rectangle is too monstrous to contemplate!
    Batman: We've been given the plainest warning! They're working together to take over...
    O'Hara: To take over what, Batman? Gotham City?
    Batman: Any two of them might try that!
    Gordon: The whole... country?
    Batman: If it were three of them, I would say yes, but four? Their minimum objective must be... the entire... world.

    Note how angles apparantly vary from rectangle to rectangle, and the startling synergy achieved when all 4 supervillians team up as opposed to 2 or 3. Oh, and if you're curious about the "plainest warning" that the supervillians sent to Batman, go look up the full quote!

    Ok, I know if they actually tried to make it campy, it would be boring and it would suck. And this whole post is just an excuse for me to bring up the 60s Batman. So......

    Bring on Batman Begins :D

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    "When the atomic bomb goes off there's devastation...but when the atomic bong goes off there's celebraaaaation!"
    1. Re:What they really have to do... by kerrle · · Score: 1
      You do realize that the original was also intentionally campy, right?

      I mean, the whole pop-art movement and everything?

    2. Re:What they really have to do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing beats the rubber shark repellent.

    3. Re:What they really have to do... by graphicsguy · · Score: 1

      Is there a such thing as accidentally campy?

  37. Obligatory Quote by Demoknight · · Score: 4, Funny

    What kind of a world do we live in...
    where a MAN dressed up as a BAT...
    GETS ALL OF MY PRESS?

    1. Re:Obligatory Quote by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      Sorry, George. I forgot you were doing a television conference tonight!

    2. Re:Obligatory Quote by Luscious868 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What kind of a world do we live in...
      where a MAN dressed up as a BAT...
      GETS ALL OF MY PRESS?

      This town need an enema!

    3. Re:Obligatory Quote by Jim+Haskell · · Score: 1

      This is the worst haiku ever.

      You get a C+ for effort, though.

    4. Re:Obligatory Quote by Demoknight · · Score: 1

      just a big batman fan... and i'm geeky enough where i actually say that on ventrilo on a pretty regular basis just to be annoying... it starts out where people think you might actually say something useful then you just wind up quoting the joker and they all tell you to stfu ;)

  38. What the hell did they do to the batmobile? by Arcturax · · Score: 1

    What is he going to do, just run over the bad guys?

    But it at least looks like it will be better than the last movie, even with the redneck version of the batmobile.

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    --Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop. - Dr. Walter Gibbs
    1. Re:What the hell did they do to the batmobile? by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

      That's not the Batmobile. The Batmobile was designed by Bruce, and this movie happens before he designed it. This vehicle was designed as a military prototype by Wayne Enterprises.

  39. Obligatory iTunes rant by NerveGas · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Why in the world does Apple think that if I want to watch a Batman trailer, that I need iTunes?

    This is exactly the sort of thing that Micro$oft would get raked across the coals for, but just because Apple beat them to it, it seems to be A-OK.

    steve

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    1. Re:Obligatory iTunes rant by lukew · · Score: 1

      You sound surprised.

      steve

    2. Re:Obligatory iTunes rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trade in your Microsoft Dictator for a stylish new iDictator, Today!

    3. Re:Obligatory iTunes rant by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      I for one welcome our new Apple over...

      Oh, forget it...

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    4. Re:Obligatory iTunes rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want the fullscreen version, just do the following:
      1) Highlight the link for fullversion.
      2) Paste into a new tab/window. Delete everything before the redirect to itms://, and change that to http:///
      3) When the xml page comes up (you get a line or two of crap), open source on the page, and scroll down till you find the direct movie link (this should end in something like movie_lfs2.mov)
      4) Copy that link. Make a basic html page where you can post that as a link. (Or just make it a comment with clickable link in a Slashdot reply. You just need to preview to get the clickable link. No need to post it :)
      5) Right-click and save to disk.

      There you go - it's the work of a minute or two when you get used to it :)

      As for the other sizes - do something similar, but just click to open the page with embedded file. Then look at the source of that page and grab the link, put an "m" in front of the size (eg "...movie_480.mov becomes movie_m480.mov), and do the same to make a clickable link.

      I agree, pretty scummy, but very easy to bypass :)

    5. Re:Obligatory iTunes rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damnit - that "http" should only have 2 // after it - /. did it, not me :)

      And it turns out to be "ifs" not "lfs" for the movie link.

      Other than that, it should work okay.

  40. Since it was a comic? by deft · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean,cmon.... think hard next time. Comics are so cliche nerd gear next you'll ask why "propeller hats" are new for nerds too.

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  41. How do you tolerate these comic book movies? by GamblerZG · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Cliché characters, no plot whatsoever, banal tagline dialogues and total lack of ideas, meaning and conflict. There are some visually stunning, stylish, yet intelligent and thought-provocative movies out there. Why settle for this teenage-dream kind of stuff?

    1. Re:How do you tolerate these comic book movies? by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

      "There are some visually stunning, stylish, yet intelligent and thought-provocative movies out there."

      Really?

      Name one.

      I didn't think so.

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    2. Re:How do you tolerate these comic book movies? by multiplexo · · Score: 3, Funny
      Cliché characters, no plot whatsoever, banal tagline dialogues and total lack of ideas, meaning and conflict. There are some visually stunning, stylish, yet intelligent and thought-provocative movies out there. Why settle for this teenage-dream kind of stuff?

      Two words: "Tits" and "Explosions". So you go ahead and watch Sideways again.

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    3. Re:How do you tolerate these comic book movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

    4. Re:How do you tolerate these comic book movies? by tedrlord · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Cliché characters, no plot whatsoever, banal tagline dialogues and total lack of ideas, meaning and conflict. There are some visually stunning, stylish, yet intelligent and thought-provocative movies out there. Why settle for this teenage-dream kind of stuff?

      Because I like to see more than two movies a year, maybe? Even then, I'd still watch comic book movies. I'm a big fan of martial arts movies, and as much as I love Hero and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, they don't stand anywhere near Jackie Chan in Drunken Master II. Some movies don't try to be works of art, just entertaining, fun stories, and by keeping their pretensions low they often end up connecting to the viewer on a more fundamental level. Anyway, Batman is a wonderful character archetype, especially among geeks, and I love to see how he is portrayed in different media.

      It reminds me, I have some friends who spend all their time going over the deep meanings and messages of different musicians. They're go on and on about so-and-so evocatively portraying society through the eyes of whatever, and how this song is about that aspect of the human condition. Personally, I just like stuff that sounds good. Hell, half the music I listen to is in languages I don't even understand. No idea what any of it means, but it's just good music.

      Of course, this might be more like my friend who won't listen to any band that gets played on the radio and brings up bands only he's ever heard of to show how hip and cultured he is. The funny thing is that he doesn't actually appreciate music so much as the feeling that he's superior to your regular bourgeoisie. There are a lot of independent film people that seem to think the same way.

      Anyway, the point is that I like movies that I like. They might be visually stunning, they might address deep philosophical questions, or they might have a bunch of explosions and people kicking each other in the head. They go for different things, and as long as I approach them on the level that they're presented, there's no reason I can't enjoy both.

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    5. Re:How do you tolerate these comic book movies? by kria · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can't comment about some of what you've said, but in regard to cliche characters...

      Partly, it's because some of these characters formed the cliche. Batman certainly formed the cliche of the dark, brooding anti-hero.

    6. Re:How do you tolerate these comic book movies? by GamblerZG · · Score: 1

      Partly, it's because some of these characters formed the cliche.

      This is probably the most interesting comment I've seen in past month on /.. You're right, they formed cliches. But I think that characters that are developed enough and complicated will not become cliche despite popularity of movie/book/game.

    7. Re:How do you tolerate these comic book movies? by GamblerZG · · Score: 1

      Some movies don't try to be works of art, just entertaining, fun stories
      Art movies can also be fun and entertaining. There is no direct conflict between entertainment value of the movie and quality of it's storyline.

      they often end up connecting to the viewer on a more fundamental level
      Ever heard about experiment where scientists put electrode into mouse brain's pleasure center? That was _very_ fundamental level. The mouse died of exhaustion constantly pressing button that put electricity on that electrode. I do not want to be entertained like that mouse.

      Personally, I just like stuff that sounds good.
      Music cannot be compared to movies like that. It's a different kind of art. Music usually expresses emotions, and it is possible to feel those emotions even without understanding lyrics.

      friend who won't listen to any band that gets played on the radio and brings up bands only he's ever heard of to show how hip and cultured he is
      Yes, there are people like him. And there are a lot of people that go to popular movies just because they are popular. And there are also people who go to see some actor, whose image was carefully constructed to be adored.

      However, I just think that movies, books and games should have some meaning.

      Anyway, the point is that I like movies that I like.
      Most of the people do. I did too few years ago. But have you ever wondered why do you like movies that you like? Have you tried to understand what drives your emotions and preferences?

    8. Re:How do you tolerate these comic book movies? by kria · · Score: 1

      True enough, it's the fact that the majority of the movies, though, are made about heroes that have been around for a rather long time. I can't really use the 'created the cliche' defense for a Hellboy or a Sin City... but those aren't really the ones being accused, in general.

      I came to the realization about cliches, by the way, when I had to read Heinlein's The Puppetmasters for a class in college.

      (Oh, and thank you for the compliment!)

  42. so, I need to download one more software for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No. I dont fucking have iTunes, and I dont even want to have. Isn't quicktime enough?

  43. Kevin Smith Comments? by mfh · · Score: 1

    The director wanted everything in this movie to be believable and realistic. It's going to be darker and more real than even the first Batman in 1989.

    Is this the same movie Kevin Smith was talking about with the big frickin' spider?

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  44. what this movie lacks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in a Prince soundtrack, it makes up for with high speed chase scenes shot on lower wacker drive in chicago. Imma go see it just to point and say "I've driven there! And driven a cop car into that pillon there too!"

  45. OMG by 5n3ak3rp1mp · · Score: 2, Funny

    That link takes one to a page which (when you click on "fullscreen") links to the iTunes Music Store.

    It appears the iTMS is currently down! NONE of it works!

    OMG, did you guys just Slashdot the iTMS?!?! ROTFL

  46. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  47. equilibrium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See Christian Bale in a better movie..

    Eguilibrium

    http://www.gasresources.net/DisposalBioClaims.htm

  48. What am I, chopped liver?! by caspy7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since when is Batman, "New for Nerds?"

    I donned my cape, cowel and trusty utility belt just to watch the trailer.

    Don't I count as a nerd?

    1. Re:What am I, chopped liver?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And by that you mean "towel tied around your neck in the fashion of a cape, bib, and your trusty box of cheez-its".

      Not that I'd hold that against anyone 'cause that's how I prepared, er *cough*, was already doing previous to the trailer. :)

    2. Re:What am I, chopped liver?! by initialE · · Score: 1

      At least you didn't put on your robe and wizard hat...

      *Ducks*

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    3. Re:What am I, chopped liver?! by lgw · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I always feel bad when I get those confused! Man, when I wear my Harry Potter gear for the Star Wars premier, people sure look at me funny!

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  49. Be fair now... by Chris+Snook · · Score: 1

    Nothing was equally bad as Catwoman.

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  50. Dare we hope? by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    A good Batman AND a good Star Wars, all in one year! It's like someone travelled back in time and corrected something terribly wrong from before.

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    1. Re:Dare we hope? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It's like someone travelled back in time and corrected something terribly wrong from before.

      That would be Dr Who.

    2. Re:Dare we hope? by moranar · · Score: 1

      What exactly makes you hope for a good star wars? all available info points to it sucking just like the previous two.

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    3. Re:Dare we hope? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You surely meant "A good couple trailers"?

      I will not think star wars is going to be good just because the trailers look good.
      No siree, won't be fooled again.

    4. Re:Dare we hope? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      It's like someone travelled back in time and corrected something terribly wrong from before.

      Well, Scott Bakula had to do something since he wasn't working on Enterprise anymore...

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  51. Batmobile by British · · Score: 1

    The last batmobile we saw had tons of neon lights, fins, and looked 100% impractical. This new batmobile is a bleepin SUV mixed with a Formula 1 racecar.

    Yes, it's a good upgrade. Will give credit to the 1989 Batmobile which actually had machine guns.

  52. Fuck crappy plugins! *WORKING* direct link by dark-br · · Score: 0, Redundant
  53. Grayson by cyberfunk2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone think that this batman was influenced by the famous "Grayson" trailer/fan film that people kept wishing would be made into a movie ??

    http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/nonsw/grayson/

    Does anyone think it'll ever get made ?

    1. Re:Grayson by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

      No. Rather it's both were influenced by the original dark roots of the whole mythos. The campy Batman of the TV series was never how Batman was in the comics.

  54. any last semblance of sanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you mean- after Burton left so did any semblance of Insanity

  55. Re:Never rub another man's rhubarb by glyph42 · · Score: 1

    That game was awesome. I beat the Joker level (diffuse all the bombs) and the Penguin level (destroy the computer) on the C64. Can I say, best game music ever, and best walk animation loop! I only got 99% complete on the Penguin level, even though it said I had won. What's the deal with that?

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  56. Re:Never rub another man's rhubarb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You should play the Amiga version too on UAE or whatever, it is basically the same but with much better graphics. I remember my friend got that game for Amiga while I had it for C64 and I was totally amazed by the graphics.

  57. Hmmmm... by Pecisk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First of all, judging from trailer so far, Bale looks perfect, very fit, stylish and in same time we see some real emotions and actions, not just 'went-and-kicked-some-bad-guys-asses'. Second, lot of support cast - Freeman, Liam Neeson, etc. - is first rate stars.

    We see lot of DARK action in the movie. Yeah, it could even contain a death of someone Batman loves - altought it is guess while I haven't seen movie.

    So...question is - could it possibly go somewhere wrong? Yes it could still. But as movie is shot by one of my favorite directors and stars Bale (which is my favorite in male actors category for some time, due of Equilibrium, willing to see The Mechanist and American Psycho), I wish them lot of artistic luck - let the director's eye doesn't run dry when he cuts and cuts and cuts and cuts... :)

    I will wait for this movie, certanly.

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  58. w00t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks; so much for the retarded itunes requirement. Who wants to watch videos in iTunes anyway?!?

  59. In other news... by Aggrav8d · · Score: 1

    ...sites that mirror /. express concern that they feel less like a news propagator and more like an advertising portal.

  60. helps if you've seem Batman: The Movie by Scudsucker · · Score: 1

    And by that, I mean the 1966 Adam West origional. So I also liked Forever because of campy stuff like the Batmobile going up the side of a building, and swinging the safe being stolen by Two Face back into the building. Batman & Robin was just so bad it was funny. Catwoman, however, was just bad enough to be horrible, but not so bad as to be funny at the same time. That movie needs the MS3K treatment to be tolerable to watch.

  61. Robin by joncastle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All I can say is, thank God Robin won't be in it.

    1. Re:Robin by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

      hopefully they'll introduce Dick Grayson as Bruce's ward by way of Dick's parents' deaths in part 2, but won't have him become Robin until part 3.

      Robin is so ingrained in the Batman mythos, that he really does "need" to be there. Don't base your ideas of Robin on the old 60's show, or the crappy movies, the comics and animated series portray(ed) the character and the father/son relationship very well.

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  62. Ogg Vorbis by transami · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Ogg Ogg Ogg!!!!!!!!!

    How many times do I have to say it?

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  63. Sure, but are they going to have... by jflanger · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's a movie without Bat-Thermal-Underwear? (How the #$%$#% did Adam West say that with a straight face???)

    1. Re:Sure, but are they going to have... by lgw · · Score: 1

      Man, he danced the batusi with a straight face, you can't beat Adam West for camp.

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  64. Re:Obligatory follow the leader rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't need iTunes to watch the trailer, steve. You only need iTunes to watch the fullscreen version.

    They offer a premium service with a catch, steve, you must try one of their flagship products. I guess lazy people like you expect the world for free, and don't really understand business and stuff. I kinda feel bad for your ignorance, steve.

    Oh, and that 'Micro$oft' thing? That was BRILLIANT!!! Where did you think of that!! Wow, you must be an uber-geek. We all bow to your coolness.

  65. MOD UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm fresh outta mod points. Someone mod this sucka up!

  66. Slashdot crybabies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    waaaa Quicktime WAAAAAA iTunes WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAA

    I really wish Flash were involved somehow too. Oh how grand the drama would have been.

    I felt a great disturbance in the Force. As if millions of geeks suddenly cried out in terror and wouldn't shut the fuck up.

  67. check the imdb trivia page... by Scudsucker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...for some interesting tidbits. A good mix of "wtf were they doing considering Ashton Kutcher for Batman?", and "dammit! why couldn't they talk Viggo Mortensen into playing Ra's Al Ghul?"

    But the funniest one was a drunk crashed into the Batmobile while they were filming in Chicago, and he claimed he ran into it because he was afraid it was an alien spacecraft.

  68. Where are my mod points? by Laconian · · Score: 1

    What have you done to me, Slashdot?

  69. Dave's Trailer Page by TheoGB · · Score: 1

    The full-screen version is the same one as the hi-res but with black bars top and bottom and the certain knowledge that your boss will notice you watching it. Certainly I stopped bothering with them ages ago.

    I don't go near the Quicktime site any more: I just wait for Dave's Trailer Page to put a link up so I can download them...which is where I grabbed this from just now. :D

  70. perhaps not so straight by floodo1 · · Score: 0

    LOL! You would've gotten my funny mod points for that one. (If I had them.) :) That was awesome. In the hetero-sexual manly awesome way of course ;)

    or maybe it was awesome in the home-sexual queer eye way...of course.

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  71. that explains a lot by Scudsucker · · Score: 1

    And how long until you realized that you were checking out a GUY most of the time (ie her stunt double - look it up).

    I hated that movie, if only for the fight scenes where the director aprantly thought he'd get fired if he didn't have 4 different cuts a second. Even with the hair, I had to check for the boobs (this is in pre-dominatrix outfit) to try and figure out which one was the chick and which was the guy. This explains a lot: they were both guys!

  72. Who the hell pays $10 to see a movie? by Blaede · · Score: 1

    I just saw Sin City today, the 1:30pm showing in my town. The ticket price was $4. Even sweeter that the price was that there were only two other people in the showing. All that spaciousness and the lack of people with screaming kids, cell phone talkers, tall people and MST3K-wannabes made drinking my smuggled in Sauza Diablo more enjoyable When people mention $10 ticket prices, I wonder if they are living in Monaco or some place like that.

    1. Re:Who the hell pays $10 to see a movie? by Sebadude · · Score: 1

      Sorry, $10 canadian. Still not 4 bucks, but closer.

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  73. The other side of the pond by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm British, you insensitive clod!

  74. Re:Never rub another man's rhubarb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought that the Amiga game was pretty cool - however despite getting right to the end about 20 times I never managed to kill the Joker!... the dude always jumped on his helecopter and away he went - I have never met anybody who managed to finish that game!... cant remember the specifics but from what I remember you were meant to grip him with the batterange but he was always too far across the screen?

  75. Re:Never rub another man's rhubarb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, as far as I can tell some sadistic programmer thought it would be funny to prevent you from finishing the game. I always attributed not being able to beat it to the fact that I was using a crappy Atari joystick, but now I think otherwise.

  76. Apples and Oranges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks, didn't get it work on Firefox (1.0.3) - complained on missing plugins, quicktime is installed though, and reinstall just splats screen you got this installed well done go and watch some movies.

    Apple is making their off-standard stuff cause without it they would have to face real competition (like making Tiger run on PC -hardware). Jobs has been a very little man always, though.

  77. My hown county by jonr · · Score: 1

    Can't wait to see it. The Tibet (or wherever it is supposed to be) scenes were filmed few hundred km away from where I live.

  78. Huge Batman Fan by Jekler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm a huge batman fan and, that being said, this movie is really exciting. All of the other Batman movies have disappointed me. The previous writer/director's redefinition of the villains, heros, and backstories is just unacceptable.

    In my opinion, all the other movies weren't so much the essential Batman. All the characters in the movies make decisions as if they're PLANNING to lose at the end of the movie.

    The Catwoman portrayals have been nothing short of embarrassing. "Hey it's like The Crow, but you know, with a cat, and not so dark. So it's an upbeat Crow. With leather. And high heels!"

    From the trailers, this movie looks pretty close to Frank Miller's vision of Batman as The Dark Knight, which is precisely what I want to see. (The animated series was the closest representation).

    I'm not saying that Batman can never be changed from Frank Miller's style, but if they're going to do it, it has to be a completely new story, like where they took Batman Beyond. You can't redefine a 30 year old character in an hour and a half movie.

    There's really four elements of Batman that I think make the story so exciting. The psychological aspect, the detective story, his physical prowess, and the dark atmosphere.

    The other Batman movies failed at all of them. Every clue is so obvious, as long as he's not mildly retarded he can figure them out. His physical prowess was hampered by a giant tank-like suit. The psychological aspect was undercut as the villains weren't so much persistent burdens on his conscience and sanity as they were minor annoyances that surfaced for a week and a half, caused a bit of an uproar, and dropped dead. And it's hard to be portray "dark" while dancing around with neon lights and shiny rubber nipples.

    As far as I'm concerned, reardless of how good the actual movie is, the trailer was more entertainment than all the other movies put together. Note: If you love the psychological aspect of it, see the animated movie Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker

    1. Re:Huge Batman Fan by Conanymous+Award · · Score: 1

      Whoa! Now waitaminnit? You're saying you're a huge one-of-these? W00t, my processor heat troubles are over! Batfan saves the day!

      Still, I'm kinda curious - how did you type your message?

  79. Catwoman by b00tleg · · Score: 0

    The latest Catwoman had nothing to do with Batman.

  80. where's the girl? by Jeff+Hornby · · Score: 1

    The trailer was OK but NOT ENOUGH KATIE HOLMES.

    mmmm... Katie Holmes

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  81. Not just QT by Craig_P92669 · · Score: 0

    I had something get messed up on my home computer so that I couldn't view movies shot with my HP camera anymore (happened right after I installed Quicktime) with Win Media Player. VLC pretty much saved the day. Didn't know it would open QTime files though, thanks.

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  82. Batman ca$h machine by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    After the last 3 movies, I hope they learned something. Make it exciting, less talk, more action....no stupid villians either!
    Batman actually has to lose a few fights to make it realistic, he is human after all with no super powers. I'll wait for the reviews on www.rottentomatoes.com before I pay to see this one.

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  83. Dual Monitors by aliens · · Score: 1

    Woooo QT does not like it when you have dual monitors set up. Crashes very ungracefully and takes explorer.exe with it.

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    1. Re:Dual Monitors by miller701 · · Score: 1

      Worked for me...

      Quadro FX 500/600, Win 2k. Firefox

    2. Re:Dual Monitors by Tuirn · · Score: 1

      Mine works fine.

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  84. WHat have you been reading? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Sorry? It seemed like Kevin Smith liked it an awful lot. And really from the trailers and direction the plot has to go and it being PG-13 - it all looks pretty good this time.

    In fact this is the movie that people who liked the previous two are probably not going to like as much, and vice versa. This one looks like the modern day Empire Strikes Back.

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  85. Master Wayne...Feed me a stray cat! by kahrhoff · · Score: 0

    Now if you'll excuse me I have to return some videotapes.

  86. Catwoman was excellent by justanetgod · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...eye-candy. If you were looking for plot, serious acting, drama, great writing, etc - why would you be watching that movie anyway? But - for what it was (Halle Barry) - it was outstanding.

  87. Damn Bale by Coppit · · Score: 1
    He went from this:

    http://www3.sympatico.ca/stewy1/2000/ampsycho.jpg

    in American Psycho to this:

    http://www.comicon.com/thebeat/images/machinist3.j pg

    in the Machinist to this:

    http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/b/Bale _Christian/sq-bale-shirtless-mira.jpg

    in Batman. He dropped 1/3 of his body weight (180 to 120) for the machinist. Supposedly he wanted to go to 100 but the producers wouldn't let him.

    BTW, see the machinist if you haven't.

  88. Not the trailers by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The trailers look OK but they do not make me think that.

    The ten minutes of extra footage I saw at Celebration III do. The clone wars and the prequel book do. The tone of the movie being darker does. The PG-13 rating. The inevitibility of where the plot has to go - by the nature of the story, this plot has to drift closer to the original Star Wars than any of the ones before it.

    There are a lot of things that point to this being a really good movie, if you care to look.

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