yes and all those institutions have been infiltrated by people who have the interest in the profits of companies like Monsanto at heart at the expense of everything else. don't believe me look it up. There is a table on this site that illustrates this clearly.
Its already happening unfortunately. This time with software-patents and Microsft is doing it directly now rather than using a proxy like SCO they are quietly going around to companies and telling them if you use Linux then you need to pay up or face litigation. They are not sending letters they are sending layers and everything is done under NDA so you cannot talk about it in the press. Its very shady but they are already doing this. The goal is to stain/destroy Linux in the marketplace
Microsoft gave them 13 million for a "Unix License" Translation: "Use this money to keep suing people using Linux" Microsoft even went further. It got a lot jucier. Google the terms "Mike Anderer", Baystar Capital, RBC, Microsoft.
Its well known that Microsoft is involved in a lot of sleazy shady behind the scenes shenanigans. From funding the SCO lawsuit in order to try to stop Linux and Open Source, to stacking standards comittees their by corrupting them, to coercing vendors not to use competing O/Ses to, Using mobster-like tactics with dubious software-patents to stifle opensource in the marketplace. Microsoft is rarely a company that simply competes in the marketplace based on the merit of their product in the market. Its their M/O
At this point, SCO's claims were sounding dubious at best, so they showed off two samples of alleged copied code at a reseller show later that month. However, the code in question was shown to be part of BSD, and previously released under the BSD license. In spite of this, SCO decided that to save face, they should waste everyone's time with continuing their warpath of litigation.
Aided by Microsoft Corp and Sun Microsystems Inc. direct investment of $23,000,000 dollars to fund the lawsuit and an additional $50,000,000 dollars organized by Microsoft to funnel funds to SCO through Baystar Captial and RBC facilitated by one Mike Anderer IIRC.
Also the saga with Maureen O'Gara, Dan Lyons, Rob Enderle and others that were caught spreading misinformation in the IT media on behalf of Microsoft and SCO in this case.
Like asking "why should poor people who already cannot afford their own lives start having children they know they can't afford?"
I have no idea. It makes zero sense. But they do it anyway. Maybe they hate children and want them to suffer in poverty?
yep hope you don't ever have kids. If you do hope none of them have sex until they are married. If the do then the answer is right in your back yard. Think!
That would be great but in the real world... we know how companies rarely ever pass their savings back down to the customers. So I would say don't expect to see any cut in your montly bill and it is more likely that you will have a license fee added on if Nathan is involved and that license fee will be passed on to the customers.
If I remember correctly the whole Motorola vs Apple ordeal or war predicates that of any other cases regarding patents. I personally think it had a lot to do with the fact that Microsoft threaded Motorola with a lawsuit which ended in Motorola taken a license on those patents. Not long after that Motorola sued Apple.
So I have a bit of sour taste in my mouth when I see people telling that this is a "defensive" stance or "only because Apple has lawsuits". Or maybe Motorola also develops crystal balls that they can predict the future.
I'm of the opinion that cheerleading for Motorola is a bit hypocritical. You are against "software" patents (which I am) or you are not, software patents aren't suddenly good things because it is used against a company that you hate.
Hello! Apple was threatening to SUE Motorola over swipe to unlock and others right when Microsoft threaned to sue them over FAT and ActiveSync. Motorolla fired back with actual litigation against the agressors. Please stop spreading misinformation.
You migrate away just like you would any defunct system that you are locked into. The first step is to quit purchasing anything else for that platform.
erm.. how about installing rootkits on people's computers disabling their CD drives in the name of "stopping piracy" then having the arrogance to claim that "people shouldn't worry about it, most of them commoners don't even know what a rootkit is so why all the fuss?" How about bankroling some of the most Draconian censorship laws for the Internet? PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, DMCA, PROTECT-IP all bankrolled and lobbied for by Sony and friends. Not to mention their relentless attempts to proprietize media formats. But wait... there's more! They sell you a device then remove features that you paid for after the fact then changed their EULA so that if you cannot sue them when they screw up. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Sony used to be a good company when they only made hardware. The day Sony got into the content business is the day Sony went sour.
Yep.. See Oracle vs Google. If Oracle had asked for a reasonable ransom maybe Google would have just payed it and be done with it. However Oracle asked for billions of dollars and so Google told them to go fuck sand. So the sued and many of their patents got re-examined and thrown out by the USPTO while other patents were found by the jury NOT to have been infringed by Google. This is the nightmare scenario that trolls fear. Also, see Judge Willian Alsup and Judge Richard Posner. Its mostly in the Eastern District of Texas they can consistently get a away with this crap.
What the hell took them so long. I remember using CDE on GenRAD test stations way back in 1994-95 and wished it would run on linux then FVWM95 came out and I never looked back
Monsanto is doing this with crops already. If their gene contaminates your crop through natural means (wind pollination, direct seed drift, bees etc. You are on the hook. They can take control of the entire crop including the uncontaminated parts of your crop and the vigorously litigate these scenarios.
This seems like a result of the conservative cry to shrink the size of the federal gubmint. "Gubmint shouldn't be allowed to do internally what they can outsource to some private company" possibly owned by China. THis is sad
Oh, and no Apple product cost twice what it should, they are comparable in price to any business-class Dell or HP. There is no 500GB HD for $200, so you are just a filthy fucking liar trying to spread propaganda which you can't back up.
Motorola claims they are not paying Microsoft a red cent for any crap software patents such as "rendering text before images". MS filed suit and Moto hit back with H.264 patents looking to get X-Box banned in the USA and possibly all versions of Windows with h.264 embedded.
Maybe its time for Apple to stop slavishly copying others IP and claiming it as their own without permission? We know how shameless they are about their actions.
Its easy to say "well don't buy that" if it doesnt allow you to change the keys. the problem comes along when Joe Blow goes out and "buys that" not having a clue that the OS is permanently locked to the device, device is no longer supported and joe blow brings the device to me. I try to wipe windowsX and put some form of linux/android/cyanogen or whatever in an attempt to modernize the device for joeblow and I am blocked from doing that. This is the problem. You cannot reasonably expect Joe Blow to know the intricasies of secure boot before purchase especially when the Microsoft/ATT/Verizon etc are yelling through their marketing drones "Look! its gatz teh securze boot no malware yaaay" and Joe Blow responds to the marketing material by purchasing such locked product.
Many people bring their old tired PCs to me and I put some form of Linux on them and the PCs runs a LOT better and has more modern software etc. If OS is locked to the device, this and most of the devices that are available to Joe Blow are locked devices, then this activity will be will slow to a trickle at best.
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i would rather have this with a voice warning
Does this mean that when KMS is broken on "insert graphics card of the month here" I won't be able to get to the console? ooo nooo...
yes and all those institutions have been infiltrated by people who have the interest in the profits of companies like Monsanto at heart at the expense of everything else. don't believe me look it up. There is a table on this site that illustrates this clearly.
You think this started with Android? This started with Linux. Of the three links I posted only one of those were about Android which is based on... wait for it.. Linux. And here it is from the Ballmer
Its already happening unfortunately. This time with software-patents and Microsft is doing it directly now rather than using a proxy like SCO they are quietly going around to companies and telling them if you use Linux then you need to pay up or face litigation. They are not sending letters they are sending layers and everything is done under NDA so you cannot talk about it in the press. Its very shady but they are already doing this. The goal is to stain/destroy Linux in the marketplace
Microsoft gave them 13 million for a "Unix License" Translation: "Use this money to keep suing people using Linux" Microsoft even went further. It got a lot jucier. Google the terms "Mike Anderer", Baystar Capital, RBC, Microsoft.
Its well known that Microsoft is involved in a lot of sleazy shady behind the scenes shenanigans. From funding the SCO lawsuit in order to try to stop Linux and Open Source, to stacking standards comittees their by corrupting them, to coercing vendors not to use competing O/Ses to, Using mobster-like tactics with dubious software-patents to stifle opensource in the marketplace. Microsoft is rarely a company that simply competes in the marketplace based on the merit of their product in the market. Its their M/O
At this point, SCO's claims were sounding dubious at best, so they showed off two samples of alleged copied code at a reseller show later that month. However, the code in question was shown to be part of BSD, and previously released under the BSD license. In spite of this, SCO decided that to save face, they should waste everyone's time with continuing their warpath of litigation.
Aided by Microsoft Corp and Sun Microsystems Inc. direct investment of $23,000,000 dollars to fund the lawsuit and an additional $50,000,000 dollars organized by Microsoft to funnel funds to SCO through Baystar Captial and RBC facilitated by one Mike Anderer IIRC.
Also the saga with Maureen O'Gara, Dan Lyons, Rob Enderle and others that were caught spreading misinformation in the IT media on behalf of Microsoft and SCO in this case.
Like asking "why should poor people who already cannot afford their own lives start having children they know they can't afford?" I have no idea. It makes zero sense. But they do it anyway. Maybe they hate children and want them to suffer in poverty?
yep hope you don't ever have kids. If you do hope none of them have sex until they are married. If the do then the answer is right in your back yard. Think!
That would be great but in the real world... we know how companies rarely ever pass their savings back down to the customers. So I would say don't expect to see any cut in your montly bill and it is more likely that you will have a license fee added on if Nathan is involved and that license fee will be passed on to the customers.
If I remember correctly the whole Motorola vs Apple ordeal or war predicates that of any other cases regarding patents. I personally think it had a lot to do with the fact that Microsoft threaded Motorola with a lawsuit which ended in Motorola taken a license on those patents. Not long after that Motorola sued Apple. So I have a bit of sour taste in my mouth when I see people telling that this is a "defensive" stance or "only because Apple has lawsuits". Or maybe Motorola also develops crystal balls that they can predict the future. I'm of the opinion that cheerleading for Motorola is a bit hypocritical. You are against "software" patents (which I am) or you are not, software patents aren't suddenly good things because it is used against a company that you hate.
Hello! Apple was threatening to SUE Motorola over swipe to unlock and others right when Microsoft threaned to sue them over FAT and ActiveSync. Motorolla fired back with actual litigation against the agressors. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Right...
When Apple does it - evil.
When Google does the same thing it's okay, because Google has only goodness and altruism in its heart.
So someone walks up and punches you in the face and you stand there and take it? really?
You migrate away just like you would any defunct system that you are locked into. The first step is to quit purchasing anything else for that platform.
Yeah? Will the Playstation allow you to rip DVDs and BlueRays? just wondering.
Hey! Dave, You still over at Burson-Marsteller? Didnt realize StratFor was one of your clients. You guys seem to be quite busy lately.
erm.. how about installing rootkits on people's computers disabling their CD drives in the name of "stopping piracy" then having the arrogance to claim that "people shouldn't worry about it, most of them commoners don't even know what a rootkit is so why all the fuss?" How about bankroling some of the most Draconian censorship laws for the Internet? PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, DMCA, PROTECT-IP all bankrolled and lobbied for by Sony and friends. Not to mention their relentless attempts to proprietize media formats. But wait... there's more! They sell you a device then remove features that you paid for after the fact then changed their EULA so that if you cannot sue them when they screw up. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Sony used to be a good company when they only made hardware. The day Sony got into the content business is the day Sony went sour.
Yep .. See Oracle vs Google. If Oracle had asked for a reasonable ransom maybe Google would have just payed it and be done with it. However Oracle asked for billions of dollars and so Google told them to go fuck sand. So the sued and many of their patents got re-examined and thrown out by the USPTO while other patents were found by the jury NOT to have been infringed by Google. This is the nightmare scenario that trolls fear. Also, see Judge Willian Alsup and Judge Richard Posner. Its mostly in the Eastern District of Texas they can consistently get a away with this crap.
They are making it more like Google not Apple. So I don't expect any such silly lawsuits.
What the hell took them so long. I remember using CDE on GenRAD test stations way back in 1994-95 and wished it would run on linux then FVWM95 came out and I never looked back
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Monsanto is doing this with crops already. If their gene contaminates your crop through natural means (wind pollination, direct seed drift, bees etc. You are on the hook. They can take control of the entire crop including the uncontaminated parts of your crop and the vigorously litigate these scenarios.
This seems like a result of the conservative cry to shrink the size of the federal gubmint. "Gubmint shouldn't be allowed to do internally what they can outsource to some private company" possibly owned by China. THis is sad
Oh, and no Apple product cost twice what it should, they are comparable in price to any business-class Dell or HP. There is no 500GB HD for $200, so you are just a filthy fucking liar trying to spread propaganda which you can't back up.
They recently listed a 640 GB for $199
They list a 4GB ECC 1333 DIMM module for $150
Newegg has a 8GB ECC 1333 DIMM module for $68
So from where I sit it looks like Apple products cost twice what they should. .... just saying.
Motorola claims they are not paying Microsoft a red cent for any crap software patents such as "rendering text before images". MS filed suit and Moto hit back with H.264 patents looking to get X-Box banned in the USA and possibly all versions of Windows with h.264 embedded.
Maybe its time for Apple to stop slavishly copying others IP and claiming it as their own without permission? We know how shameless they are about their actions.
Its easy to say "well don't buy that" if it doesnt allow you to change the keys. the problem comes along when Joe Blow goes out and "buys that" not having a clue that the OS is permanently locked to the device, device is no longer supported and joe blow brings the device to me. I try to wipe windowsX and put some form of linux/android/cyanogen or whatever in an attempt to modernize the device for joeblow and I am blocked from doing that. This is the problem. You cannot reasonably expect Joe Blow to know the intricasies of secure boot before purchase especially when the Microsoft/ATT/Verizon etc are yelling through their marketing drones "Look! its gatz teh securze boot no malware yaaay" and Joe Blow responds to the marketing material by purchasing such locked product.
Many people bring their old tired PCs to me and I put some form of Linux on them and the PCs runs a LOT better and has more modern software etc. If OS is locked to the device, this and most of the devices that are available to Joe Blow are locked devices, then this activity will be will slow to a trickle at best.