Not happening. Microsoft will start an aggressive campain to migrate all Zimbra users to Exchange and kill it. No need have competition to your cash cow based on all open source competing technologies. Stick a fork (no pun intended) in Zimbra if Microsoft gets a hold of Yahoo!.
"The driver situation wasn't any better when XP was launched. If anything it was much worse because all of a sudden consumer-grade hardware vendors had to jump to supporting the NT kernel rather than the 9x kernel"
That was not our experience when we had to load 210 PCs with XP-Pro-corp when it came out. There was a plethora
of win2000 drivers for those same devices that worked on Windows9x before XP was released and those drivers worked
very well in XP. I remember we had to resort to the Win2000 drivers in many cases and those drivers saved us from having to hunt for and replace
much hardware back then. This time around this is not the case even with fairly recent hardware. The fact is win2k drivers for the most part worked
pretty well in XP compared to this forced hardware obsolescence fiasco we are faced with now.
Sorry it' no longer the shit. And China and Russia have developed a passive system that can track and identify all steatlh craft. Its very cheap and simple. All it does is track the disturbance of civilian broadcasts caused by aircraft. Very hard to destroy as there are no active radar signals to track. This is not a good development.
Armed revolt against who? Hypersonic Jets? F22 raptors? Smart bombs? Robotic Drones? automatic rifles? All of which are illegal for you to own. Our politicians are slowly but surely eroding the 2nd amendment and this will continue. They are driving home in the ignorant people's minds that the 2nd amendment was for the purpose or preserving our right to HUNT. Their Idea is that it gives you the right to own a RIFLE for hunting. Not to posses arms that can revolt and arrest/kill politicians when they run the government a muck. In the USA you can even get arrested if you build a potato launcher. I'm afraid armed revolt is no longer an option.
I guess if the Zimbra people jump ship they could rewrite webgui and webadmin from the 4.x version however it seems as if the 5.0 is
fully under the YPL and the YPL states that if you use the logo in an "unapproved" way the license can be revoked. Ouch.
more here
The Zimbra faux open source license (ZPL) now the (YPL) a perversion of the Apache license prohibits the removal of their logo from the source in the form of an "Attribution Clause" This logo is trademarked. Yahoo now owns the trademarks and now perhaps Microsoft will on a successful purchase of Yahoo. This begs the question. Can Zimbra be forked? I think the answer is no. Because you cannot remove the logo as the license states and MS will presumably now own the trademarks and all rights to that code. If this is the case then it would seem as if the Zimbra people are out on their ears. without their code or trademarks.
True open source aka free software preserves the right to fork. With badgeware you are prohibited from removing the trademarks and logos from the source. Hence you cannot fork it. This is BAD. If they remove the logo requirement from their license and leave the attribution requirement then that would be no problem because customers could still fork and maintain attribution to the originators which is what the GPL allows anyway. Zimbra chose to screw the customer by using an true open source license (Apache License) and corrupting it by forcing you not to remove the trademarked logo. So as to prevent forking and therefore prevent free market competition that open source fosters. This is why true OPEN source software like Debian and Linux and any GPL sw cannot be bought away from freedom and the free market.
As one that has deployed it in a few sites this is really disturbing to me. A tough lesson to learn and this will be the last time I get bitten by faux open source licenses.
Shoplifting is not the same as copyright infringement. That is the argument of the RIAA/MPAA trying to propagandize and mis-inform folks. Shoplifting includes the physical loss of merchandise. Copyright infringement does not. If you go into a store and steal a CD or DVD then that is shoplifting. If you buy it then copy it and re-distribute it without permission then that is copyright infringement. Definitely *not* the same. Sorry.
Again, no one is talking about *not* enforcing the law. That is not the point. I do not want to pay to setup another big lumbering government bureaucracy for the sole purpose of protecting your profits. So What, are we going to setup a government bureaucracy to protect the profits of Wal-mart too? Because of shoplifting? that is not the role of government. The copyright laws clearly allow for enforcement against those who break the law. We do not need to setup another draconian lumbering government bureaucracy to protect the profits of each industry segment that goes whining to the government. The oil companies would love it if the government was to setup a huge bureaucracy to protect their loss of profits from people stealing gas at the pumps. It is the responsibility of you to protect your profits and not me or any other American.
the Mall owners would love for a huge bureaucracy of investigating the shoplifting crime wave that they are dealing with. I just don't want to PAY for it out of my pocket. If you would like to help pay to enforce the profits of the Sony/BMG then why don't you send a check/cheque off to your local RIAA/IMPI/MPAA folks.
Nobody is saying to throw out copyright laws. That is not even the point here. The point is I do not
want my tax dollars going to create a new draconian enforcement arm of government for the sole purpose
of protecting your profits. That should be up to you. If you are losing billions then you have billions enough
to protect yourself. If you are a small-fry artist then you don't even count anyways because 1. your stuff isn't getting
pirated and 2 you have to deal with
getting ripped off by the SONY/BMG people first before you worry about your stuff being downloaded by some teenager.
This has nothing to do with anti-copyright it has to do with I am not paying to enforce your profits. It is not my
responsibility it's yours. I do not want the government coming to me to take money out of my paycheck at the point
of a gun to make sure you profits are secure. Get it? I pay enough taxes as is.
SCREW writing your congressman. BLOW THEIR DAMMED PHONES UP. Just like the people did
with the amnesty bill. MAKE THEM BACK DOWN. The only language they understand is
jammed phone lines. This is ridiculous. Since when was it big brother's responsibility
to enforce profits for and to protect the aging business model of big media? I Refuse to let my hard earned tax dollars go towards
creating to new arm of government for the sole purpose of enforcing profits for big media.
They have enough billions to enforce their profits themselves. Big business has completely
bought out our fucking government shame shame shame on them all. Call your congressman NOW!! do not wait.
But boiling it in a tea will deliver significant quantities of CBD
The problem is that boiling it in a tea also delivers even more
"significant quantities" of THC than smoking it.
Indigenous people's way of fighting breast cancer.
Use:-
Contents
1/8th Oz of mid to premium cannabis
1 cup of filtered water
Sweetener of choice (sweeten to taste)
1 lemon or lime
bring one cup of filtered water to a boil
add 1/8 oz of cannabis and boil for 8 minutes
strain then add sweetener and lemon or lime
Drink warm or over ice.
3 times a week.
Enjoy cancer free breasts.
Check with your local laws as this may not be legal
in your area;)
They probably would have has something more robust if the mission was originally slated to last this long but it was not. Those rovers were only supposed to last like 3 months and its been years now and still going no end in sight. Really amazing stuff.
Well the pressurized bubbles are quite a bit more realistic. One would have to account for many many things due to the lower pressure, different gravity, much much thinner atmosphere, magnetic field issues, the list goes on to the 10th power. eg. much more rocks falling from space, radiation, human bone density, etc. To name a few. And lets hope they don't start to charge for air (breathable air that is) a la Total Recall. Don't forget to pay your air bill kiddies it costs much to generate that precious air. In our typical metro society a constant supply of drinking water is not free unless u filter it yourself with McGyver-like techniques such as Survivorman. We take simple things like the availability of breathable air so much for granted its not even funny.
To digress a with a bit of cynicism. At the rate things are going here on Earth one would wonder if starting a utility company that generates and supplies clean air now would yield a new industry that might just be needed for the bubbles that would be right here on Earth in the future.
Sorry, your "100000k security researchers" argument does not come in to play here.
These were KNOWN attack vectors. KNOWN attack vectors means that any
script kiddie could have tried a KNOWN attack against it. I suppose
the Apple guys failed to try KNOWN attacks against their own code. relying
on as you say "simulated internal attacks"
You pose an interesting question. What if our planet is dying and we actually find one we all can go to... but it already has people on it. And they decide they have no room for us. What do we do? Nuke em? or just stay here and die?
How the hell is this strange. This is the Bush administration.
They put oil executives in charge of the EPA
they put antitrust defence lawyers in the Justice Dept.
They put drug company executives in charge of the FDA
Another problem?
TFA said the neurons will react like humans. Humans try to forget memories they don't like
What if lab brain (the collection of neurons) decide that it doesn't like the memories that have been "washed" on to it.
I have tried very hard to see some good in this and I believe you're right.
I think also the disgust that these companies may feel after having to
cough-up to Microsoft's shake-down shenanigans will be the main driver in
them accelerating their migration away from MS products. This will backfire
in MS face in the future for sure. It is an act of desparation on the part of
Mr Steve Balmer. This guy is vicious and cut-throat. The nightmare for Mr. Balmer
Is being caught between a group of angry Tux penguins and an icy cliff.
They are losing the grip and it is what they fear the most. They will do anything to
protect their monopoly and without any semblance of scruples whatsoever.
Once you force a company to purchase protection from
you it leaves a lasting bad taste in their mouth and given that they have paid
protection they definitely feel free to completely do what ever they want including getting
rid of all MS code in their products.
Look for these device companies to accelerate their move to Linux in even
a much wider array of devices given their new false sense of freedom from the beast.
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Imagine a .NET/Mono based Zimbra.
Not happening. Microsoft will start an aggressive campain to migrate all Zimbra users to Exchange and kill it. No need have competition to your cash cow based on all open source competing technologies. Stick a fork (no pun intended) in Zimbra if Microsoft gets a hold of Yahoo!.Is anyone surprised? GoDaddy is the worst registrar. The will shut down your domain without notification or verification. They truly suck.
That was not our experience when we had to load 210 PCs with XP-Pro-corp when it came out. There was a plethora of win2000 drivers for those same devices that worked on Windows9x before XP was released and those drivers worked very well in XP. I remember we had to resort to the Win2000 drivers in many cases and those drivers saved us from having to hunt for and replace much hardware back then. This time around this is not the case even with fairly recent hardware. The fact is win2k drivers for the most part worked pretty well in XP compared to this forced hardware obsolescence fiasco we are faced with now.
Sorry it' no longer the shit. And China and Russia have developed a passive system that can track and identify all steatlh craft. Its very cheap and simple. All it does is track the disturbance of civilian broadcasts caused by aircraft. Very hard to destroy as there are no active radar signals to track. This is not a good development.
Armed revolt against who? Hypersonic Jets? F22 raptors? Smart bombs? Robotic Drones? automatic rifles? All of which are illegal for you to own. Our politicians are slowly but surely eroding the 2nd amendment and this will continue. They are driving home in the ignorant people's minds that the 2nd amendment was for the purpose or preserving our right to HUNT. Their Idea is that it gives you the right to own a RIFLE for hunting. Not to posses arms that can revolt and arrest/kill politicians when they run the government a muck. In the USA you can even get arrested if you build a potato launcher. I'm afraid armed revolt is no longer an option.
I guess if the Zimbra people jump ship they could rewrite webgui and webadmin from the 4.x version however it seems as if the 5.0 is fully under the YPL and the YPL states that if you use the logo in an "unapproved" way the license can be revoked. Ouch. more here
I'm afraid not. I hope to god I'm wrong and someone finds a way around the fake open source license. see my other post http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=438692&cid=22261334
The Zimbra faux open source license (ZPL) now the (YPL) a perversion of the Apache license prohibits the removal of their logo from the source in the form of an "Attribution Clause" This logo is trademarked. Yahoo now owns the trademarks and now perhaps Microsoft will on a successful purchase of Yahoo. This begs the question. Can Zimbra be forked? I think the answer is no. Because you cannot remove the logo as the license states and MS will presumably now own the trademarks and all rights to that code. If this is the case then it would seem as if the Zimbra people are out on their ears. without their code or trademarks.
True open source aka free software preserves the right to fork. With badgeware you are prohibited from removing the trademarks and logos from the source. Hence you cannot fork it. This is BAD. If they remove the logo requirement from their license and leave the attribution requirement then that would be no problem because customers could still fork and maintain attribution to the originators which is what the GPL allows anyway. Zimbra chose to screw the customer by using an true open source license (Apache License) and corrupting it by forcing you not to remove the trademarked logo. So as to prevent forking and therefore prevent free market competition that open source fosters. This is why true OPEN source software like Debian and Linux and any GPL sw cannot be bought away from freedom and the free market.
As one that has deployed it in a few sites this is really disturbing to me. A tough lesson to learn and this will be the last time I get bitten by faux open source licenses.Shoplifting is not the same as copyright infringement. That is the argument of the RIAA/MPAA trying to propagandize and mis-inform folks. Shoplifting includes the physical loss of merchandise. Copyright infringement does not. If you go into a store and steal a CD or DVD then that is shoplifting. If you buy it then copy it and re-distribute it without permission then that is copyright infringement. Definitely *not* the same. Sorry.
Again, no one is talking about *not* enforcing the law. That is not the point. I do not want to pay to setup another big lumbering government bureaucracy for the sole purpose of protecting your profits. So What, are we going to setup a government bureaucracy to protect the profits of Wal-mart too? Because of shoplifting? that is not the role of government. The copyright laws clearly allow for enforcement against those who break the law. We do not need to setup another draconian lumbering government bureaucracy to protect the profits of each industry segment that goes whining to the government. The oil companies would love it if the government was to setup a huge bureaucracy to protect their loss of profits from people stealing gas at the pumps. It is the responsibility of you to protect your profits and not me or any other American. the Mall owners would love for a huge bureaucracy of investigating the shoplifting crime wave that they are dealing with. I just don't want to PAY for it out of my pocket. If you would like to help pay to enforce the profits of the Sony/BMG then why don't you send a check/cheque off to your local RIAA/IMPI/MPAA folks.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines.
Nobody is saying to throw out copyright laws. That is not even the point here. The point is I do not want my tax dollars going to create a new draconian enforcement arm of government for the sole purpose of protecting your profits. That should be up to you. If you are losing billions then you have billions enough to protect yourself. If you are a small-fry artist then you don't even count anyways because 1. your stuff isn't getting pirated and 2 you have to deal with getting ripped off by the SONY/BMG people first before you worry about your stuff being downloaded by some teenager. This has nothing to do with anti-copyright it has to do with I am not paying to enforce your profits. It is not my responsibility it's yours. I do not want the government coming to me to take money out of my paycheck at the point of a gun to make sure you profits are secure. Get it? I pay enough taxes as is.
SCREW writing your congressman. BLOW THEIR DAMMED PHONES UP. Just like the people did with the amnesty bill. MAKE THEM BACK DOWN. The only language they understand is jammed phone lines. This is ridiculous. Since when was it big brother's responsibility to enforce profits for and to protect the aging business model of big media? I Refuse to let my hard earned tax dollars go towards creating to new arm of government for the sole purpose of enforcing profits for big media. They have enough billions to enforce their profits themselves. Big business has completely bought out our fucking government shame shame shame on them all. Call your congressman NOW!! do not wait.
Indigenous people's way of fighting breast cancer.
Use:-
Contents
1/8th Oz of mid to premium cannabis
1 cup of filtered water
Sweetener of choice (sweeten to taste)
1 lemon or lime
bring one cup of filtered water to a boil
add 1/8 oz of cannabis and boil for 8 minutes
strain then add sweetener and lemon or lime
Drink warm or over ice. 3 times a week.
Enjoy cancer free breasts.
Check with your local laws as this may not be legalin your area
They probably would have has something more robust if the mission was originally slated to last this long but it was not. Those rovers were only supposed to last like 3 months and its been years now and still going no end in sight. Really amazing stuff.
This has been working for me for over a year. (since Breezy) Now the cat is out of the bag we can expect MS to nip this in the bud. Oh well.
WOW that video is eyeball openening.. Just damn.
Well the pressurized bubbles are quite a bit more realistic. One would have to account for many many things due to the lower pressure, different gravity, much much thinner atmosphere, magnetic field issues, the list goes on to the 10th power. eg. much more rocks falling from space, radiation, human bone density, etc. To name a few. And lets hope they don't start to charge for air (breathable air that is) a la Total Recall. Don't forget to pay your air bill kiddies it costs much to generate that precious air. In our typical metro society a constant supply of drinking water is not free unless u filter it yourself with McGyver-like techniques such as Survivorman. We take simple things like the availability of breathable air so much for granted its not even funny.
To digress a with a bit of cynicism. At the rate things are going here on Earth one would wonder if starting a utility company that generates and supplies clean air now would yield a new industry that might just be needed for the bubbles that would be right here on Earth in the future.
Sorry, your "100000k security researchers" argument does not come in to play here. These were KNOWN attack vectors. KNOWN attack vectors means that any script kiddie could have tried a KNOWN attack against it. I suppose the Apple guys failed to try KNOWN attacks against their own code. relying on as you say "simulated internal attacks"
You pose an interesting question. What if our planet is dying and we actually find one we all can go to... but it already has people on it. And they decide they have no room for us. What do we do? Nuke em? or just stay here and die?
The first step in terraforming Mars is fixing the low gravity.
How do you propose we do that?
It won't hold an atmosphere without it.
Drug company lobbyists to supervise the drug companies. ?
Also Oil company excutives to supervise the environment. ?
When u put lobbyists and executives for big industry as head
of agencies tasked to supervise said big industry
you get exactly what is happening here.
How the hell is this strange. This is the Bush administration.
They put oil executives in charge of the EPA
they put antitrust defence lawyers in the Justice Dept.
They put drug company executives in charge of the FDA
I mean really now. Take a look here. http://www.iraqtimeline.com/bushcab.html
And maybe someone can lookup these clowns and see what their prior industry affiliation is http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/cabinet.htmlAnother problem? TFA said the neurons will react like humans. Humans try to forget memories they don't like What if lab brain (the collection of neurons) decide that it doesn't like the memories that have been "washed" on to it.
I have tried very hard to see some good in this and I believe you're right.
I think also the disgust that these companies may feel after having to cough-up to Microsoft's shake-down shenanigans will be the main driver in them accelerating their migration away from MS products. This will backfire in MS face in the future for sure. It is an act of desparation on the part of Mr Steve Balmer. This guy is vicious and cut-throat. The nightmare for Mr. Balmer Is being caught between a group of angry Tux penguins and an icy cliff. They are losing the grip and it is what they fear the most. They will do anything to protect their monopoly and without any semblance of scruples whatsoever.
Once you force a company to purchase protection from you it leaves a lasting bad taste in their mouth and given that they have paid protection they definitely feel free to completely do what ever they want including getting rid of all MS code in their products.
Look for these device companies to accelerate their move to Linux in even a much wider array of devices given their new false sense of freedom from the beast.
Ernie ball Guitar Co. http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html Comes to mind.