F**k off. Take a joke. And take it as something interesting that happened in your mundane life.
It seems that the people most offended are Americans since Canadians managed to pull this one from under your nose. They look like the ones screaming sue sue sue, put them in jail, fine them.
There's more I could say, but I feel that it's pretty trivial since I'd be wasting my breath.
I read it in grade 8 humanities in British Columbia, Canada. It was kind of silly. How it was written was okay. Didn't throughly enjoy it. Some teachers just don't know how to pick good science fiction.
I don't play Quake and really have no idea what QuakeLives et. al does... but what I do understand is that slade is basing his work on someone else's work.
So what I thought about is Apple and OS X. I know they are using open source software in their OS but I have no idea if they actually did release the modified source. Perhaps someone can clearn up on that... I know Apple hasn't got into a snit about that and does this have the same case as Apple and its use of Open Source Code?
And what about writing an document and using other people's written work in it? Technically the book is all open source since you can read it word for word but still copyrighted open source. Yet you can still include other people's works and own a copyright to the book but not their piece of work. Has this any relation to what Slade has done?
I'm more bias to GPL right now and I don't have anything against it. I actually do like to look at the source and understand what's going on. I only have enough ability to follow code but not actually code from scratch and fix things up. Curiosity and understanding is all I have and this bit was just something I wondered about.
This reminds me of those spy gadgets you wanted when you were little... You know, the ones that were super ultra-cool and small that you could bring anywhere and pretend you were like James Bond. Tiny little cameras, lasers in wristwatches, you know the deal.
Same breed, one is just more social.
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I agree with this article for the most part.
When Nerd is mentioned, I keep thinking of the guys that are dressed in "Revenge of the Nerds". The horn rim glasses, collared shirt, pocket protector and suspenders to complete the picture. Nerds tend to be people that haven't established themselves - positively that is- in social class. As far as geeks goes, the people who do call themselves "geeks" tend to be a little more in sync with society more so than nerds. If you notice, the ones who are quite computer literate and with the groove of style seem prefer geek over nerd.
But both classes have similarities, such as intrests in computers, but nerds just tend to be obsessed with technology like a hobby and you don't really see them going anywhere with it. It fits well with "News for Nerds" doesn't it? We've got the news, we're interested in this sort of stuff, but for most of us, this stuff is like a hobby.
The geeks have now inherited the earth and have all the jobs while then erds are still down in the basement and tinkering with their computers. (Geeks seem prefer to be having fun, socializing and making money.)
Agreed! Geeks can be for geeks, but not in the same field. I was taught some time ago that there are science and math geeks (you can get more specific than that) in addition to computer geeks. The definition isn't limited. There were math and science geeks before there were computer geeks.
I am interesed in geek guys but I know one thing for sure, he has to be someone that doesn't work in my field however one that compliments mine is fine. And I'm currently quite interesed in a coder while my field is engineering and it's been working out quite well so far.
I knew for the longest time that I wouldn't want someone that's going to be working directly in the same field as me because there will be heated debates about methods in achieving the same ends. So I'm totally avoiding that.
So to all those geeks searching for geeks, just remember that your dream geek might not be a computer geek that you're looking for in the end. There are others out there that might be better suited to you!
I don't believe the internet harms society at all. It's everything that's behind the internet. There is a lot of hype about the internet and how you can make a lot of money off it. Not all, but quite a few people's lives are driven by the lure of money, and lots of it. I know a lot more people that I'd care to that are going into computers just for the money, not for the love and it's something that doesn't seem like it's going to change. Some of the brightest, smartest people know that's where the money is and that's where they are going to go. It's really not about the internet that's harming society, it's what it embodies to most people in the first and second world countries that's harming it. But the world revolves around money to make it revolve these days. We've already proven that communism doesn't work.
I personally plan to go into some field of Engineering. I've already determined that plopping my ass in front of a computer 8hr/5day to code all life long is not something I love to do. Problem solving and continued learning is just where it's at for me and lucky for me, this field is a good generator for income that will keep me with a lot of the latest toys scattered around my house. But sadly, not all jobs have such good pay and you already know that people like to have a high income (and low taxes). So quite a few people are going to go where the money is and not what their passion dictates (and often, it's the area where they are best in).
And about Politics? Politics doesn't yield a lot of money. Who wants to put themselves up in the public and media as a scapegoat to be blaimed when something goes wrong? One whose life will be on record no matter when and where. I don't think too many people are that willing to put themselves up for that. Perhaps all politicians are alike because they are the mindset that are willing to put themselves in that sort of position.
People go to whatever field where the media has hyped where all the money is... the internet happens to be one of the bigger areas.
That's a good way of generating revenue on open source free software, especially if you have a kick ass one. Port a copy or perhaps a client of it on windows (depends on what the function of the program is) and sell the one on windows and keep that close source.
It might motivate some people to switch over to linux instead of windows since it's free on linux as well as open source if they want to check out the code. Of course they can see the code on a windows platform and port it over themselves but that'd require programing skills an average user wouldn't have much less would be troubled to.
Computers will probably create within the bounds and rules given but it will not be innovate still. Breaking out of the box is good, but not too many suceed in doing so. I've done graphic design, ads and logos personally and I know how hard it is to try and be innovative to create something fresh and new.
But these computer generated ideas may be great for brainstorm sessions as well since you might be brain dead one day and decide to ask your computer. If you don't like to admit using the idea it gave you, you can still build on it if nothing else.
Computers, in the end, are still just tools and toys. But they are fun tools and toys. =)
Perhaps I'm addicted or perhaps I've just grown too dependant on it.
If my computer isn't networked to the internet, I go insane. If I get any news from the outside world it's usually through the net than from the TV or newspaper. It's just a big information stream where I know where to look for everything and there's always something to do on it. If I'm on vacation I do go into withdrawls because it's just a damn lot easier to look up hotel information and maps through the internet than to trek down to the Chamber of Commerce to look up this stuff. And most of the time there's someone I have to meet up and when I'm late or have some other important message to send to them, the internet is easier and cheaper than a long distance phone call (if you haven't arrived yet).
I rely on it too much to give it up and perhaps it is addiction and maybe not. There is a lot of information out there that I use on my convience. If I need specs on a NIC, I can find it. If I'm troubleshooting and ran out of ideas, there's OpenSource net and people I can ask. Travel information is also handy to find here too. I don't think I can live like the way I did before I hit the internet.
Perhaps I'm just one girl who lucked out and in the future one geek guy who will too. I was playing with an Apple IIe when I was smaller and then my father taught me my first few commands of DOS (executing a program and changing directories only really) and then I was suckered into the geek culture. Go fig. I really don't know about social conditioning, but yes my brain must have been fried by the computer the first day I touched one. Because I do enjoy the company of a male dominiated group/club. I was going to be an artist/musician at first but got some hands on experience with engineering (more like modling geodesic domes with rolled up news paper). Computers has always been my hobby but looks like it will be my career.
It looks like I'll be going into Electrical Engineering with perhaps a joint major in CS. Hopefully at MIT, but I might end up applying to CMU as well if not Waterloo (where I'm already staked out, hah).
If there are no rules on importing cryptography, all cryptographers should move to like Ontario, Canada where they welecome it. Then there won't be any stupid laws about importing and exporting cryptography imposed on the stuff developed there. You can still import it to the US market just fine. Now doesn't everything all peachy work out? The US Government just seems so fucked up. Even with the Microsoft DOJ thing, as much as we hate Microsoft.
You have to just love how that point always somehow manages to come up when you start arguing the differences between multiple OSes. I know it comes up a lot when arging re MacOS. A lot of the same useless facts used in Mac vs Windows has been ported over linux. Once this is released it will slowly diminish the validity of that argument (as useless and almost pointless as it is).
Most people can't even put up a decent argument worth arguing. The more intelligent ones seem to understand that each OS has its place. There is no "Ultimate" OS. Linux still has a bit to go before it can come close.
There probably will continue to have some holes in this system since it's the US Senate and that doesn't include the rest of the world really. A site in Amsterdamn with links to where to buy drugs may still be valid and legal; therefore render the whole thing pointless in the end.
If it's going to "work" or really be enforced properly with minimal loopholes, what is needed is probably some kind of international law that is applicable worldwide. But knowing how hard that's going to be (especially with different drugs legal and not in certain countries) it's going to be hard to reach a happy mutual international agreement.
Aren't we stereotypically non-sociable types of people? At least lacking in the social skills department. I guess we've decided to start using common terminology more than a lot of uber geek terms and acronyms.
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F**k off. Take a joke. And take it as something interesting that happened in your mundane life.
It seems that the people most offended are Americans since Canadians managed to pull this one from under your nose. They look like the ones screaming sue sue sue, put them in jail, fine them.
There's more I could say, but I feel that it's pretty trivial since I'd be wasting my breath.
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I think it would be pretty cool to take lessons from Ken. Always wanted to fly... but sadly, I don't live in the US, let along NJ.
I thought it was the UBC engineers who did the VW thing.
I read it in grade 8 humanities in British Columbia, Canada. It was kind of silly. How it was written was okay. Didn't throughly enjoy it. Some teachers just don't know how to pick good science fiction.
So what I thought about is Apple and OS X. I know they are using open source software in their OS but I have no idea if they actually did release the modified source. Perhaps someone can clearn up on that... I know Apple hasn't got into a snit about that and does this have the same case as Apple and its use of Open Source Code?
And what about writing an document and using other people's written work in it? Technically the book is all open source since you can read it word for word but still copyrighted open source. Yet you can still include other people's works and own a copyright to the book but not their piece of work. Has this any relation to what Slade has done?
I'm more bias to GPL right now and I don't have anything against it. I actually do like to look at the source and understand what's going on. I only have enough ability to follow code but not actually code from scratch and fix things up. Curiosity and understanding is all I have and this bit was just something I wondered about.
It says software company.
This reminds me of those spy gadgets you wanted when you were little... You know, the ones that were super ultra-cool and small that you could bring anywhere and pretend you were like James Bond. Tiny little cameras, lasers in wristwatches, you know the deal.
When Nerd is mentioned, I keep thinking of the guys that are dressed in "Revenge of the Nerds". The horn rim glasses, collared shirt, pocket protector and suspenders to complete the picture. Nerds tend to be people that haven't established themselves - positively that is- in social class. As far as geeks goes, the people who do call themselves "geeks" tend to be a little more in sync with society more so than nerds. If you notice, the ones who are quite computer literate and with the groove of style seem prefer geek over nerd.
But both classes have similarities, such as intrests in computers, but nerds just tend to be obsessed with technology like a hobby and you don't really see them going anywhere with it. It fits well with "News for Nerds" doesn't it? We've got the news, we're interested in this sort of stuff, but for most of us, this stuff is like a hobby.
The geeks have now inherited the earth and have all the jobs while then erds are still down in the basement and tinkering with their computers. (Geeks seem prefer to be having fun, socializing and making money.)
I am interesed in geek guys but I know one thing for sure, he has to be someone that doesn't work in my field however one that compliments mine is fine. And I'm currently quite interesed in a coder while my field is engineering and it's been working out quite well so far.
I knew for the longest time that I wouldn't want someone that's going to be working directly in the same field as me because there will be heated debates about methods in achieving the same ends. So I'm totally avoiding that.
So to all those geeks searching for geeks, just remember that your dream geek might not be a computer geek that you're looking for in the end. There are others out there that might be better suited to you!
I don't believe the internet harms society at all. It's everything that's behind the internet. There is a lot of hype about the internet and how you can make a lot of money off it. Not all, but quite a few people's lives are driven by the lure of money, and lots of it. I know a lot more people that I'd care to that are going into computers just for the money, not for the love and it's something that doesn't seem like it's going to change. Some of the brightest, smartest people know that's where the money is and that's where they are going to go. It's really not about the internet that's harming society, it's what it embodies to most people in the first and second world countries that's harming it. But the world revolves around money to make it revolve these days. We've already proven that communism doesn't work.
I personally plan to go into some field of Engineering. I've already determined that plopping my ass in front of a computer 8hr/5day to code all life long is not something I love to do. Problem solving and continued learning is just where it's at for me and lucky for me, this field is a good generator for income that will keep me with a lot of the latest toys scattered around my house. But sadly, not all jobs have such good pay and you already know that people like to have a high income (and low taxes). So quite a few people are going to go where the money is and not what their passion dictates (and often, it's the area where they are best in).
And about Politics? Politics doesn't yield a lot of money. Who wants to put themselves up in the public and media as a scapegoat to be blaimed when something goes wrong? One whose life will be on record no matter when and where. I don't think too many people are that willing to put themselves up for that. Perhaps all politicians are alike because they are the mindset that are willing to put themselves in that sort of position.
People go to whatever field where the media has hyped where all the money is... the internet happens to be one of the bigger areas.
It might motivate some people to switch over to linux instead of windows since it's free on linux as well as open source if they want to check out the code. Of course they can see the code on a windows platform and port it over themselves but that'd require programing skills an average user wouldn't have much less would be troubled to.
But these computer generated ideas may be great for brainstorm sessions as well since you might be brain dead one day and decide to ask your computer. If you don't like to admit using the idea it gave you, you can still build on it if nothing else.
Computers, in the end, are still just tools and toys. But they are fun tools and toys. =)
If my computer isn't networked to the internet, I go insane. If I get any news from the outside world it's usually through the net than from the TV or newspaper. It's just a big information stream where I know where to look for everything and there's always something to do on it. If I'm on vacation I do go into withdrawls because it's just a damn lot easier to look up hotel information and maps through the internet than to trek down to the Chamber of Commerce to look up this stuff. And most of the time there's someone I have to meet up and when I'm late or have some other important message to send to them, the internet is easier and cheaper than a long distance phone call (if you haven't arrived yet).
I rely on it too much to give it up and perhaps it is addiction and maybe not. There is a lot of information out there that I use on my convience. If I need specs on a NIC, I can find it. If I'm troubleshooting and ran out of ideas, there's OpenSource net and people I can ask. Travel information is also handy to find here too. I don't think I can live like the way I did before I hit the internet.
It looks like I'll be going into Electrical Engineering with perhaps a joint major in CS. Hopefully at MIT, but I might end up applying to CMU as well if not Waterloo (where I'm already staked out, hah).
My friend at Waterloo actually said, "We need more female geeks" as well. We exist... there are a few unmarried ones still, but note the word, "few".
If there are no rules on importing cryptography, all cryptographers should move to like Ontario, Canada where they welecome it. Then there won't be any stupid laws about importing and exporting cryptography imposed on the stuff developed there. You can still import it to the US market just fine. Now doesn't everything all peachy work out? The US Government just seems so fucked up. Even with the Microsoft DOJ thing, as much as we hate Microsoft.
You have to just love how that point always somehow manages to come up when you start arguing the differences between multiple OSes. I know it comes up a lot when arging re MacOS. A lot of the same useless facts used in Mac vs Windows has been ported over linux. Once this is released it will slowly diminish the validity of that argument (as useless and almost pointless as it is).
Most people can't even put up a decent argument worth arguing. The more intelligent ones seem to understand that each OS has its place. There is no "Ultimate" OS. Linux still has a bit to go before it can come close.
There probably will continue to have some holes in this system since it's the US Senate and that doesn't include the rest of the world really. A site in Amsterdamn with links to where to buy drugs may still be valid and legal; therefore render the whole thing pointless in the end.
If it's going to "work" or really be enforced properly with minimal loopholes, what is needed is probably some kind of international law that is applicable worldwide. But knowing how hard that's going to be (especially with different drugs legal and not in certain countries) it's going to be hard to reach a happy mutual international agreement.
uneducated Canadians
I'd have to high object since the majority of the American population probably couldn't pass their own test for citizenship.
I really don't have anything against Americans. Just America.
I think it was meant to be posted in the previous article re Oracle. A simple mispost.
Aren't we stereotypically non-sociable types of people? At least lacking in the social skills department. I guess we've decided to start using common terminology more than a lot of uber geek terms and acronyms.
Can't we start one of these ourselves? The OpenSource nation with Linus Torvalds as our leader. Go world dominiation!
It seems like we already have a culture or a religion at least. emacs worshipers, distro evanglists and whatever else you'd like to add.