A very good question, BUT you are starting from the wrong point, you know the old Irish saying "... I wouldn't start from here". The first point is that the CA Authority Cert idea was designed by the naive or greedy or both and was endorsed by the stupid. It is that way so Verisign et al., the greedy, can extort money from everyone.
The checks are stupid and are easily worked round.
There are three cases (a) purely personal, need to be initially issued AT BIRTH, or on later demand by the BIRTH or PASSPORT agency of your country, with the same process as usual and signed by a Country key which the UN runs a registry for; (b) Corporations signed on incorporation by the registry, whose signing keys are signed by the Country government; (c) special keys needed for Miscellaneous reasons signed by third parties with government signed keys, for a fee.
Essentially we now only have (c). We also need a rule that says any key signed by two valid personal (a) keys is valid for (a) & (c) but not (b).
Finally, even if it is the real "Bank of Seattle" dosn't mean you are safe, of course.
Each G20 government will have to have a small office to run signing for their own government Departments and a backup of the UN country key list, and hold a list of revoked keys; any key can be revoked by their owner or by Court Order.
I have left out a lot of detail, of course, but the job is about as complicated as the dog licencing in my Switzerland.
If you dont know, you should Google it, that will make it clear/. is not a -help mailing list and this was stupid, feckless and criminal, as in mis-use of a computer system beyond authorisation.
If the price difference was 500 to 100, there would not be too much spleen, even if they made 200% profit. $18000 is an obvious obscene rip off and is indefensible.
As to sterile, pee blood... and all the other nonsense the could simply tie it inside a stout sterile plastic bag, cost $0.05, or in your mad world $50 at a 17850 saving.
1. The US legal system and congress are hopelessly broken, see SCO v IBM... and the Health Care Debate, which gave no account od single payer or honest insurance.
2. You are dimwits who have regulated yourself in to the worst mobile phone system and 37th in the Western World, just above Cuba; and failed to regulate your Financial System into the 2008 Drepresion.
3. You need, urgently, to get a grip, and grow some common sense, the $18000 is blatant price gauging, nothing else.
There is no cost to be billed, you just need to show that you will pay valid penalties, so before I lived here, I commuted, and once had my car clamped in the Zeurich Innenstadt, because I owed more than CHF 100 in overspeed fines. To stop that happening again I registered my ausleander Kontrolschield (licence plate) with the Kantonalpolizei Zeurich.
If you live abroad you can still write in and contest a penalty, and there is NO cost for that, if you are correct you get your money back. Swiss process is almost entirely fact based, not like the US adversarial system, the only real disadvantage the foreigner has is the courts, but not necessarily the polizei, speak Swiss German or French or Italian, they may, but are not required to listen to you in English (but they may, at the president's discretion). If you write to the polizei or the Kantonalanwalt (District Attorney) you can write in English, but the answer is likely in German or French, see Languages in Switzerland.
In Switzerland, under the Eidgenössische strassenvehrkersverordnung (Federal Street Rules) the Polizei are authorized to ticket-fine for small infractions, eg No Seat Belt, a very little overspeed, parking,... these proceed by issuing a bussen (penalty) which is normally billed to your home address. You can dispute a bussen, and if you can produce evidence it is withdrawn, if you don't pay it goes to a court where (i) you must defend, and (ii) a fine and costs now get added.
Only for aliens, or people without Swiss domicile do you have to pay cash on the barrelhead since you are not a Good Swiss and cannot be trusted to pay if you have no defense.
Speeding 140k+ (120k limit on autobahn), no Swiss Tax (40f), or drink (>0,5pm) will get either a big fine or your licence (fuerherausweis) pulled, on the spot, walk home.
No I wouldn't, what you suggest is both stupid and immoral, demand a jury trial, go in the box and say "I did my best" you are so infested by dishonest lawyers and dumbkopfen that you cannot see the clearly 'The morally correct path'.
Since you don't pay 'costs in cause' in the USA there is no downside to bringing unjustified suit.
You and people like you are exactly why the situation in the USA gets ever worse.
You are constantly obsessed with un-real threats, fixing problems that don't exist, and simply a GENERAL denial of common sense, justified on stupid rules and panicky process. Eg TSA...
This kid was VICTIMIZED, should sue the vice-principle, inter alia, for slander of reputation (in his trade of profession, as a school student) and for distress and the suit should enjoin the school Board, and the County. His parents should have at least one with balls.
He is entitles to an APOLOGY, DAMAGES, and full reparation of his REPUTATION, and equal publicity, if necessary paid for by the Board, and since the costs were vicarious should be sanctioned across the Board members by a levy.
That is not scientific modeling, or Mathematics, it is like numerology, The Chinese think 8 is lucky, is it? How can 2 billion people be wrong?
At the risk of re-iterating:
(a) this scam is based on faulty data which does NOT prove, imply or suggest what the real data predicts, see the ClimateGate CODE, and then read the e-mails, Jones has been suspended at CRU, and,
(b) Real temperature is falling, and,
(c) the models have to use the real Physics equations (i) Gas Equation, (ii) Heat Equation, (iii) Navier-Stokes not some piece of linearised shit you or they dreamed up to make the sums easy.
and then you need to understand Chaos Theory which, to simplify, has theorems that prove that stepwise integration of differentiable manifolds, are in general unstable with respect of small variation in initial or matching boundery conditions, this is the absolute killer, and is why the mesh is all.
Finally, don't be stupid, much of your argument is "ignore the details, the end result has to be this blind ass guess", well no it dosnt.
This boils down to the fact that Math and Science is no longer taught in most US schools, and many college undergraduate classes are just as inane; for a laugh I put your argument to a 16 year old Swiss Berufschuler, and in spite of reading it in English, his response was immediate "sheiskopf".
It really is very, very, very simple; if the predictions were NEAR term, they will either be proved wrong, or massively toned down;
So the solution is to make them very long term and continue the flow of FUD and hand waving. Then go look at the models 2 degree equatorial latitude cells, thats 44 miles (70 k) on side, and they think they might get accurate results ( hint the tetrahedron tessalation for aeronautical design is circa 1 mm on side), give me a break! and that is without Chaos theory applied to the entire differentiable manifold.
Another hint, in temperate latitudes, on land, entire weather systems are ~ 20-100 miles, and tornados < 0.5 miles wide. This is just a huge joke and the Emperor really is naked.
Co2 is not (a) a pollutant, (b) is plant food; the major green-house gas is H2O (water), the models they are using are full of shit, and historically the Co2 level has lagged not lead temperature. It may well be the Co2 level caused by Human emission will be wholly limited by photosynthesis, but what it certainly is not doing is causing a temperature rise, that rise is an artifact of the 'corrections' used by Jones (CRU) and Mann to already Cherry Picked data, the fact is that temperature has declined for the previous 8 years and the Arctic Oscillation means that it will decline further this year. In reality the temperature has fallen by > 0.6dC in the last 9 years.
Put simply the empirical evidence completely contradicts the AGW hypothesis and is yet another US fostered scam on the tax paying public.
Every time I am in the Netherlands I simply marvel at the energy and efficiency of the water management. Amsterdam airport Schipol is 7m (23 feet) below sea level.
I was once asked by a colleague coming from Brussels (Belgium) to Amsterdam (NL) how he could tell when he crossed the frontier, and I said, "It's simple, when you see the sleepy cows in a wet field replaced by bright yellow earth moving machines, then you are in the Netherlands".
If you havn't noticed it has been one of the Coldest winters in recent years, due to the un-predicted Arctic Oscillation. This goes to the climate models can't predict 3 months ahead, let alone 20 years. Add to that the data Cherry Picking that went into HAD-CRU and IPCC reports, and the incredibly course mesh that the Heat & Gas equations are run on. And the 0.6dC fall in average temperature over the last 8 years... "hide the decline" (Jones).
Having now looked at both the Statistics and the setup of the Climate Models, I can tell you these guys are as innumerate as the econometric modelers used to be so: add AGW/sea-level-rise to H1N1 and the Great US Finance Debacle (repeal Glass-Steigel, Naked Shorts, Mark-2-Market & CDOs). This is all due to incompatant US administrations, a corrupt and grand standing Congress, a broken Court System so SCOTUS no longer upholds the Constitution, rather twists itself into a pretzel to pander.
All this amplified by the ignorant and biased reporting of the 24/7 lie-news cycle.
Finally I would point out that US policy, in every area is to mis-understand or lie about the threat analysis and then spend billions of dollars on the wrong thing, you guys need first to get an education, not just teach Chinease PhD's to hack Google and 35 other corporations, and get your completely corrupt government under control. That is what the RIGHT to bear arms is all about.
Stop using Windoze or anything created by M$, since it is clear the US government is ever going to hold them responsible for anything. It is all a crock of shit.
And if you have to, run it in a VM, set up so you can re-image the C: drive at any time.
If US law worked, vide SCO v IBM, M$ would have been sued into bankruptcy years ago.
What are TLDs? Answer text strings in the ROOT servers DNS.
The only problem here is the registrars, who want to be able to continue to charge $20/year for next to nothing,
these are, generally the same people that charge $100/year for snake-oil CA certificates.
This con should have been stopped 10 years ago but it is another thing caught up in the US corporation+politics mess and will require a 1000 page report to do nothing.
This is such a dumb American attitude, I hope your Company can work without its intellectual property and computer systems. I assume you dont have insurance as well!
Sorry, the replies indicate just how correct what I wrote was:
1. It is not about formulas, or Calculus xxx, it is about really understanding what you are doing, and how all the formulas were derived, and some of that is really heavy Pure Mathematics in particular Algebra and Analysis, so that, if necessary, you can work out the probability theory in new situations.
2. In addition to the Math, there is Logic, Philosophy and Science in Experimental Design.
The big problem is that people who just know the formulae miss apply them to wrong experimental situations.
The most topical current example is the AGW controvesy where some Climatologists, HAD-CRU, eliminated (perceived outlier) data not realising that would mean that confidence estimators on their data were thereby faulty, so all that work must be re-done.
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A very good question, BUT you are starting from the wrong point, you know the old Irish saying " ... I wouldn't start from here". The first point is that the CA Authority Cert idea was designed by the naive or greedy or both and was endorsed by the stupid. It is that way so Verisign et al., the greedy, can extort money from everyone.
The checks are stupid and are easily worked round.
There are three cases (a) purely personal, need to be initially issued AT BIRTH, or on later demand by the BIRTH or PASSPORT agency of your country, with the same process as usual and signed by a Country key which the UN runs a registry for; (b) Corporations signed on incorporation by the registry, whose signing keys are signed by the Country government; (c) special keys needed for Miscellaneous reasons signed by third parties with government signed keys, for a fee.
Essentially we now only have (c). We also need a rule that says any key signed by two valid personal (a) keys is valid for (a) & (c) but not (b).
Finally, even if it is the real "Bank of Seattle" dosn't mean you are safe, of course.
Each G20 government will have to have a small office to run signing for their own government Departments and a backup of the UN country key list, and hold a list of revoked keys; any key can be revoked by their owner or by Court Order.
I have left out a lot of detail, of course, but the job is about as complicated as the dog licencing in my Switzerland.
If you dont know, you should Google it, that will make it clear /. is not a -help mailing list and this was stupid, feckless and criminal, as in mis-use of a computer system beyond authorisation.
Yes, Evil more so
Lazy, feckless, inconsiderate crooks.
If the price difference was 500 to 100, there would not be too much spleen, even if they made 200% profit. $18000 is an obvious obscene rip off and is indefensible.
... and all the other nonsense the could simply tie it inside a stout sterile plastic bag, cost $0.05, or in your mad world $50 at a 17850 saving.
As to sterile, pee blood
1. The US legal system and congress are hopelessly broken, see SCO v IBM ... and the Health Care Debate, which gave no account od single payer or honest insurance.
2. You are dimwits who have regulated yourself in to the worst mobile phone system and 37th in the Western World, just above Cuba; and failed to regulate your Financial System into the 2008 Drepresion.
3. You need, urgently, to get a grip, and grow some common sense, the $18000 is blatant price gauging, nothing else.
There is no cost to be billed, you just need to show that you will pay valid penalties, so before I lived here, I commuted, and once had my car clamped in the Zeurich Innenstadt, because I owed more than CHF 100 in overspeed fines. To stop that happening again I registered my ausleander Kontrolschield (licence plate) with the Kantonalpolizei Zeurich.
If you live abroad you can still write in and contest a penalty, and there is NO cost for that, if you are correct you get your money back. Swiss process is almost entirely fact based, not like the US adversarial system, the only real disadvantage the foreigner has is the courts, but not necessarily the polizei, speak Swiss German or French or Italian, they may, but are not required to listen to you in English (but they may, at the president's discretion). If you write to the polizei or the Kantonalanwalt (District Attorney) you can write in English, but the answer is likely in German or French, see Languages in Switzerland.
In Switzerland, under the Eidgenössische strassenvehrkersverordnung (Federal Street Rules) the Polizei are authorized to ticket-fine for small infractions, eg No Seat Belt, a very little overspeed, parking, ... these proceed by issuing a bussen (penalty) which is normally billed to your home address. You can dispute a bussen, and if you can produce evidence it is withdrawn, if you don't pay it goes to a court where (i) you must defend, and (ii) a fine and costs now get added.
Only for aliens, or people without Swiss domicile do you have to pay cash on the barrelhead since you are not a Good Swiss and cannot be trusted to pay if you have no defense.
Speeding 140k+ (120k limit on autobahn), no Swiss Tax (40f), or drink (>0,5pm) will get either a big fine or your licence (fuerherausweis) pulled, on the spot, walk home.
No he isn't, Things play differently in Italy, and
BTW he is one of the most successful, post WW 2, Italian leaders. I very much doubt he will be out anytime soon.
No I wouldn't, what you suggest is both stupid and immoral, demand a jury trial, go in the box and say "I did my best" you are so infested by dishonest lawyers and dumbkopfen that you cannot see the clearly 'The morally correct path'.
Since you don't pay 'costs in cause' in the USA there is no downside to bringing unjustified suit.
And, since they have NO evidence of ANYTHING, they will loose.
You and people like you are exactly why the situation in the USA gets ever worse.
...
You are constantly obsessed with un-real threats, fixing problems that don't exist, and simply a GENERAL denial of common sense, justified on stupid rules and panicky process. Eg TSA
This kid was VICTIMIZED, should sue the vice-principle, inter alia, for slander of reputation (in his trade of profession, as a school student) and for distress and the suit should enjoin the school Board, and the County. His parents should have at least one with balls.
He is entitles to an APOLOGY, DAMAGES, and full reparation of his REPUTATION, and equal publicity, if necessary paid for by the Board, and since the costs were vicarious should be sanctioned across the Board members by a levy.
And now you wonder why people hate the USA?
That is not scientific modeling, or Mathematics, it is like numerology, The Chinese think 8 is lucky, is it? How can 2 billion people be wrong?
At the risk of re-iterating:
(a) this scam is based on faulty data which does NOT prove, imply or suggest what the real data predicts, see the ClimateGate CODE, and then read the e-mails, Jones has been suspended at CRU, and,
(b) Real temperature is falling, and,
(c) the models have to use the real Physics equations (i) Gas Equation, (ii) Heat Equation, (iii) Navier-Stokes not some piece of linearised shit you or they dreamed up to make the sums easy.
and then you need to understand Chaos Theory which, to simplify, has theorems that prove that stepwise integration of differentiable manifolds, are in general unstable with respect of small variation in initial or matching boundery conditions, this is the absolute killer, and is why the mesh is all.
Finally, don't be stupid, much of your argument is "ignore the details, the end result has to be this blind ass guess", well no it dosnt.
This boils down to the fact that Math and Science is no longer taught in most US schools, and many college undergraduate classes are just as inane; for a laugh I put your argument to a 16 year old Swiss Berufschuler, and in spite of reading it in English, his response was immediate "sheiskopf".
It really is very, very, very simple; if the predictions were NEAR term, they will either be proved wrong, or massively toned down;
So the solution is to make them very long term and continue the flow of FUD and hand waving. Then go look at the models 2 degree equatorial latitude cells, thats 44 miles (70 k) on side, and they think they might get accurate results ( hint the tetrahedron tessalation for aeronautical design is circa 1 mm on side), give me a break! and that is without Chaos theory applied to the entire differentiable manifold.
Another hint, in temperate latitudes, on land, entire weather systems are ~ 20-100 miles, and tornados < 0.5 miles wide. This is just a huge joke and the Emperor really is naked.
Co2 is not (a) a pollutant, (b) is plant food; the major green-house gas is H2O (water), the models they are using are full of shit, and historically the Co2 level has lagged not lead temperature. It may well be the Co2 level caused by Human emission will be wholly limited by photosynthesis, but what it certainly is not doing is causing a temperature rise, that rise is an artifact of the 'corrections' used by Jones (CRU) and Mann to already Cherry Picked data, the fact is that temperature has declined for the previous 8 years and the Arctic Oscillation means that it will decline further this year. In reality the temperature has fallen by > 0.6dC in the last 9 years.
Put simply the empirical evidence completely contradicts the AGW hypothesis and is yet another US fostered scam on the tax paying public.
Only if you use Google/Yahoo
Every time I am in the Netherlands I simply marvel at the energy and efficiency of the water management. Amsterdam airport Schipol is 7m (23 feet) below sea level.
I was once asked by a colleague coming from Brussels (Belgium) to Amsterdam (NL) how he could tell when he crossed the frontier, and I said, "It's simple, when you see the sleepy cows in a wet field replaced by bright yellow earth moving machines, then you are in the Netherlands".
Gaag gedaan!
If you havn't noticed it has been one of the Coldest winters in recent years, due to the un-predicted Arctic Oscillation. This goes to the climate models can't predict 3 months ahead, let alone 20 years. Add to that the data Cherry Picking that went into HAD-CRU and IPCC reports, and the incredibly course mesh that the Heat & Gas equations are run on. And the 0.6dC fall in average temperature over the last 8 years ... "hide the decline" (Jones).
Having now looked at both the Statistics and the setup of the Climate Models, I can tell you these guys are as innumerate as the econometric modelers used to be so: add AGW/sea-level-rise to H1N1 and the Great US Finance Debacle (repeal Glass-Steigel, Naked Shorts, Mark-2-Market & CDOs). This is all due to incompatant US administrations, a corrupt and grand standing Congress, a broken Court System so SCOTUS no longer upholds the Constitution, rather twists itself into a pretzel to pander.
All this amplified by the ignorant and biased reporting of the 24/7 lie-news cycle.
Finally I would point out that US policy, in every area is to mis-understand or lie about the threat analysis and then spend billions of dollars on the wrong thing, you guys need first to get an education, not just teach Chinease PhD's to hack Google and 35 other corporations, and get your completely corrupt government under control. That is what the RIGHT to bear arms is all about.
Having liver in the Netherlands for 3 years on and off, yes, they could fix it and the trains so they worked in snow.
The only thing you have to stop them touching is the roads, or they will turn them all into 'langsamwegs'
Stop using Windoze or anything created by M$, since it is clear the US government is ever going to hold them responsible for anything. It is all a crock of shit.
And if you have to, run it in a VM, set up so you can re-image the C: drive at any time.
If US law worked, vide SCO v IBM, M$ would have been sued into bankruptcy years ago.
What are TLDs? Answer text strings in the ROOT servers DNS.
The only problem here is the registrars, who want to be able to continue to charge $20/year for next to nothing,
these are, generally the same people that charge $100/year for snake-oil CA certificates.
This con should have been stopped 10 years ago but it is another thing caught up in the US corporation+politics mess and will require a 1000 page report to do nothing.
This is such a dumb American attitude, I hope your Company can work without its intellectual property and computer systems. I assume you dont have insurance as well!
If this is right you will end up with more dis-functional idiots than there already are.
Kids need to be able to appreciate calm, read and think, all the tweeting and texting does is generate constant worthless meaningless noise.
Sorry, the replies indicate just how correct what I wrote was:
1. It is not about formulas, or Calculus xxx, it is about really understanding what you are doing, and how all the formulas were derived, and some of that is really heavy Pure Mathematics in particular Algebra and Analysis, so that, if necessary, you can work out the probability theory in new situations.
2. In addition to the Math, there is Logic, Philosophy and Science in Experimental Design.
The big problem is that people who just know the formulae miss apply them to wrong experimental situations.
The most topical current example is the AGW controvesy where some Climatologists, HAD-CRU, eliminated (perceived outlier) data not realising that would mean that confidence estimators on their data were thereby faulty, so all that work must be re-done.