This doesn't keep WebOS Inernals from going out of business. It makes it easier to help the community. WebOS Internals have bought much server power from direct donation from the WebOS fans. I've personally donated $120 to them. They reason? They are doing cool stuff.
WebOS Internals has done a bunch for the platform. Worth much more than a $10k server. Nice to anonymously question the ethics and morals of a stand up group. Have the balls to at least insult people under a username.
The Custom Kernel released for the first Pre on Sprint is the only thing that makes it usable for me. Memory caching and changing processor speed from 500 MHz to 720, 800 or 1 GHz. (I just run 720 MHz.) WebOS Internals stays completely White Hat and respects HP/Palm IP rights. The work closely together and do great things.
People say that Android is open, but it isn't nearly as open as WebOS in what you can do. There is no jail breaking or anything like it. You enter dev mode and you have root. Period.
Part of the process is that he will not change his code to what they think it should be. That is for a good reason and for stability. But he believes he thinks his code is perfect. It is not. His ego is writing checks his non-existent PayPal account can't cash.
I RTFA before it appears on Slashdot. I'm a developer on the WebOS platform. I understand his frustration. However:
His applications HAVE been distributed for MONTHS on Home brew forums. That is the point. His apps are OUT THERE. He is wanting to write the rules to get in the blessed App Catalog. Sorry, but currently the Palm App Catalog is in Beta and Palm is working hard to process all requests for apps to include to deal with someone who wants to do everything contrary to what Palm requests.
HOMEBREW is made for the open source crowd, right now.
If you don't use the Palm SDK to develop, you can sell your wares any places you like. But downloading THEIR SDK means you agree to THEIR CONDITIONS.
NOTHING is keeping you from developing software on your Pre and selling to off your web site. You just can't use the Emulator or other software Palm developed to do so.
Far be it for Palm to want a solid and worry free user experience.
5 months? The Pre was release on June 6th. It has been under 4 months the device was available and 3 or less that he has been trying to get it in a beta App Catalog.
It seems like he has been fighting it as much as possible the whole way as well.
Many Palm employees have said that they enjoy the homebrew scene and will not stop distribution via this avenue. They only restrict selling outside of the Catalog.
No, it's just rediculous that you can't run software which hasn't been in their store.
This is dead simple on the Pre. You have been able to run both of his Apps on the Pre since almost day 1. He is just pissed that Palm won't bend over backwards for the honor of distributing his apps.
I opened a free bank account and pointed a free PayPal account to it. Total time, 1 hour at bank and on computer.
Done.
Apps submitted for sale from Palm.
Yes, there are issues with Palm creating the infrastructure to handle all developers apps being submitted. However, the poster is constantly deciding that he won't do the simple things Palm asks, to help them manage the volume. Fine, those "problem" developers can wait until everything is figured out.
Why in the world should Palm spend hours and hours appeasing a developer of two mediocre apps (yes, I've used both) when the same time could get a dozen more developers setup for submitting apps. Obviously, it is some sort of conspiracy, rather than just good business sense.
If you have a fast internet connection, the level 4 (highest level) video is indistinguishable from a DVD. This is playing on a 32in 720p LCD. If they use the MPEG4 Roku is capable of, it will look even better than the WMV that Netflix requires.
You can have multiple heads for only $99 a piece and the head is smaller than a large paper back book. THAT is how it is significantly better than MythTV. I would have a MythTV backend that can stream to multiple Roku front ends. This would make me very happy.
I would take a 2.5" USB powered 160 Gig drive (under $100.) and a bunch of memory cards to use with the eeeXubuntu. Backup the cards onto the drive and ship them home via a FAST carrier (FedEx, etc.)
My current web site allows 1000 Gig of space on the server. Most people don't use it. However, if you spend time at the internet cafe uploading pictures to the site, you can also get another backup.
A 3 LED headlamp is small and light and very useful. I also keep a single LED clip on key chain light for backpacking or bicycle touring. I can clip this on the collar of my t-shirt at night and not have to look for it when I need a little light in the tent at night.
First, I'll 4th or 5th or whatever we are up to on the eeePC.
You might look at the formating SD card section of the http://wiki.eeeuser.com/. I ran into this issue once and that fixed it. If I was going, I'd have a couple 16 Gb cards. They are available for less than $70. I also loaded eeeXubuntu, instead of the default Xandros. This allows you to customize it a little easier. I use this with the USBModem program on my Treo 700p to get internet away from a WiFi. Works like a charm with no extra data charge, other than my data plan on the phone. Data plans in other countries on a cell will most likely be more expensive, so syncing when WiFi is available is probably best.
Java and C# are almost exactly the same in syntax. How about maintaining BASH scripts, Perl, Python, and Power Builder? Not quite the same. There are advantages to keeping standardization in technology unless there is a really good reason to change.
It isn't that hard to pickup a new language, unless the reason you have to pick it up is to maintain an app written by someone long gone, on top of your already full schedule. Then researching some weird syntactical thing takes 15-30 minutes you don't really have.
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This doesn't keep WebOS Inernals from going out of business. It makes it easier to help the community. WebOS Internals have bought much server power from direct donation from the WebOS fans. I've personally donated $120 to them. They reason? They are doing cool stuff.
WebOS Internals has done a bunch for the platform. Worth much more than a $10k server. Nice to anonymously question the ethics and morals of a stand up group. Have the balls to at least insult people under a username.
The Custom Kernel released for the first Pre on Sprint is the only thing that makes it usable for me. Memory caching and changing processor speed from 500 MHz to 720, 800 or 1 GHz. (I just run 720 MHz.) WebOS Internals stays completely White Hat and respects HP/Palm IP rights. The work closely together and do great things.
People say that Android is open, but it isn't nearly as open as WebOS in what you can do. There is no jail breaking or anything like it. You enter dev mode and you have root. Period.
Part of the process is that he will not change his code to what they think it should be. That is for a good reason and for stability. But he believes he thinks his code is perfect. It is not. His ego is writing checks his non-existent PayPal account can't cash.
I RTFA before it appears on Slashdot. I'm a developer on the WebOS platform. I understand his frustration. However:
His applications HAVE been distributed for MONTHS on Home brew forums. That is the point. His apps are OUT THERE. He is wanting to write the rules to get in the blessed App Catalog. Sorry, but currently the Palm App Catalog is in Beta and Palm is working hard to process all requests for apps to include to deal with someone who wants to do everything contrary to what Palm requests.
HOMEBREW is made for the open source crowd, right now.
If you don't use the Palm SDK to develop, you can sell your wares any places you like. But downloading THEIR SDK means you agree to THEIR CONDITIONS.
NOTHING is keeping you from developing software on your Pre and selling to off your web site. You just can't use the Emulator or other software Palm developed to do so.
Far be it for Palm to want a solid and worry free user experience.
5 months? The Pre was release on June 6th. It has been under 4 months the device was available and 3 or less that he has been trying to get it in a beta App Catalog.
It seems like he has been fighting it as much as possible the whole way as well.
Yes, because all developers should submit their for pay apps on the day that the pay catalog goes live. That is BRILLIANT!
Wait, no. Then we wouldn't have any Pay apps in a live Pay App Catalog at launch.
I'm fine with enough "buy in" to the process of distributing through Palm that fly by night developers that might not offer support are weeded out.
Many Palm employees have said that they enjoy the homebrew scene and will not stop distribution via this avenue. They only restrict selling outside of the Catalog.
No, it's just rediculous that you can't run software which hasn't been in their store.
This is dead simple on the Pre. You have been able to run both of his Apps on the Pre since almost day 1. He is just pissed that Palm won't bend over backwards for the honor of distributing his apps.
Yep. It downloads automatically to my Pre over WiFi or EVDO and I can play it in about 20 seconds. Works GREAT.
The difference between arrogance and hubris is what you can get away with.
Sorry, confused as to if your are talking about the programmer who wrote the article listed or Palm. Hard to tell who has more hubris.
Yep, you should be able to walk into a store and just dump your stuff on the shelf without any approval. Ridiculous that stores don't let you.
Seriously? The Pre is the most open platform out there (including Android with its locked down ROM).
QuickInstall and the average user can hack the WebOS and install programs to load whatever homebrew they want. No jailbreaking, easy as pie.
Yes, this guy is as much to blame as Palm for creating struggles. Seriously. I had my App submitted for the Catalog with about 1 hour of effort.
Look at me, Palm won't spoon feed me to cater to my every need about distributing my crappy apps. Waaaaaaaah!!! Waaaaaaah!!
Stuff like this?
I opened a free bank account and pointed a free PayPal account to it. Total time, 1 hour at bank and on computer.
Done.
Apps submitted for sale from Palm.
Yes, there are issues with Palm creating the infrastructure to handle all developers apps being submitted. However, the poster is constantly deciding that he won't do the simple things Palm asks, to help them manage the volume. Fine, those "problem" developers can wait until everything is figured out.
Why in the world should Palm spend hours and hours appeasing a developer of two mediocre apps (yes, I've used both) when the same time could get a dozen more developers setup for submitting apps. Obviously, it is some sort of conspiracy, rather than just good business sense.
Settle down, youngsters.
If you have a fast internet connection, the level 4 (highest level) video is indistinguishable from a DVD. This is playing on a 32in 720p LCD. If they use the MPEG4 Roku is capable of, it will look even better than the WMV that Netflix requires.
You can have multiple heads for only $99 a piece and the head is smaller than a large paper back book. THAT is how it is significantly better than MythTV. I would have a MythTV backend that can stream to multiple Roku front ends. This would make me very happy.
Roku has the capability to play MPEG4. It doesn't have to deal with the inferior WMV.
I would take a 2.5" USB powered 160 Gig drive (under $100.) and a bunch of memory cards to use with the eeeXubuntu. Backup the cards onto the drive and ship them home via a FAST carrier (FedEx, etc.)
My current web site allows 1000 Gig of space on the server. Most people don't use it. However, if you spend time at the internet cafe uploading pictures to the site, you can also get another backup.
A 3 LED headlamp is small and light and very useful. I also keep a single LED clip on key chain light for backpacking or bicycle touring. I can clip this on the collar of my t-shirt at night and not have to look for it when I need a little light in the tent at night.
First, I'll 4th or 5th or whatever we are up to on the eeePC.
You might look at the formating SD card section of the http://wiki.eeeuser.com/. I ran into this issue once and that fixed it. If I was going, I'd have a couple 16 Gb cards. They are available for less than $70. I also loaded eeeXubuntu, instead of the default Xandros. This allows you to customize it a little easier. I use this with the USBModem program on my Treo 700p to get internet away from a WiFi. Works like a charm with no extra data charge, other than my data plan on the phone. Data plans in other countries on a cell will most likely be more expensive, so syncing when WiFi is available is probably best.
I'll be in my bunk.
Java and C# are almost exactly the same in syntax. How about maintaining BASH scripts, Perl, Python, and Power Builder? Not quite the same. There are advantages to keeping standardization in technology unless there is a really good reason to change.
It isn't that hard to pickup a new language, unless the reason you have to pick it up is to maintain an app written by someone long gone, on top of your already full schedule. Then researching some weird syntactical thing takes 15-30 minutes you don't really have.