i don't think i could agree with you more. Right on. You are very correct in dreading the day is gone or close enough that its cost makes it "gone" to normal people.
How to get everyone behind something like this? Hike the fuck out of gas prices and gas taxes.
The riots ensuing will be far worse if this problem is ignored and people find out that instead of having "a little left to tide us over until the trasition is complete" to "we are fucked and time is up."
Things like this are amazing ideas and very, very, very important and will only be increasing more so. Oil won't last forever. You know it. i know it. Why beat around the bush (no pun) and say 10, 20, 50, etc years? Who gives a fuck *how* long we have....get on the ball and get renewable energy sources up past 95% of out uses.
Sad part is tanks and planes don't run on well wishes and rainbows, the US military and the non-efficient consumer vehicles have *got* to be brought under control. Go ahead and argue all you want. You are wrong and we have *got* to get off of energy sources that will run out.
Also, i'm happy this sort of thing is being done....just wish more and more stories of new energy studies (that don't involve how to make *more* money for oil companies) come from the US. We either need to get *everyone* behind this or it's not going to happen. People, in general, are lazy and won't change unless they have a personal interest or are forced to. Let's get some grants and scholarships for people doing this kind of work in the US.
It is simply, unFUCKING believable that companies and people are STILL doing this kind of shit. Has any of these morons ever heard of Cliff Stoll or read his book? Or know anything about how FUCKING STUPID backdoors are?
Truly amazing these people make things that are trusted to run the financial infrastructure of this country.
i use an old 133MHz PI w/ 128MB ram for a RH9 firewall on cable modem. The workload hardly *ever* gets near 1 at all. There are many, many uses for old PC's.
Hell, i hooked up a USB cam w/ motion detect software (check sourceforge) to catch which one of our cats was crapping on the couch! Worked like a dream. Plenty of apps for those old beasts.
Sorry, but that looks so photoshopped it hurts. If it is a real product, damn, why not...oh, i don't know....hire a real outfit to photograph it instead of letting a few blind folks mock up the pic?
i too can live with Apple's drm. i agree with you 100%. Want to add a few things too.They have a solid, very well thought out product and i use it a lot. Legally. Why? Because of how easy and user friendly iTunes is to use...why the hell would i want to put up with spyware, malware and other shit that comes with shoddy p2p software when Apple has put together a solid, easy to use product?
i really, really hope this has very, very little effect on how Apple operates its music division.
As for not owning the bits on my computer....i know there are a lot of hot-heads out there ranting and raving about "it's my goddamn computer, i'll do whatever the hell i want...", etc. But ya know what? i don't give a damn whose bits these are...i'm just enjoying some music while i code my homework.
This little game of drm/crack is quite interesting in light of this thought:
So you want the music industry to play fair, lower prices (a lot), and treat the artists well. Okay, say we're in some other universe and you get this wish. The music industry is the perfect paragon of what you think it should be. Low prices for cd's, no sky high exec salaries, artists treated well. Fine.
Continuing in our new universe, do you honestly think that all of the sudden all filetraders will graciously stop trading and support the newly benevolent music industry? Not a chance in hell. People will keep taking what they can get for free so long as the perceived chance of being caught is low.
Say the filetraders in this new universe were struck to all of the sudden play by the rules. Great. Utopia. But that won't ever happen. War is FAR more horrific than filetrading and the human race has failed to get remove is thus far. i don't hold out much hope of the trading or cash-grabbing stopping.
The music industry brought you the "digital" age of music enabling them to get it to you cheaper and faster, but forgot that you too can now trade them cheaper and faster. Why now all the trading? Got news for you, been going on for years with tapes....but just like the music industry, you can't move them about as fast or easily.
We have watched you for millions of years. We have watched you grow and advance and learn and war and love and die.
We have viewed you babarity with curiousity that a race of such intelligence could ravage its own. We have seen you let your own starve when your Earth produces more than enough for all. We have only watched.
Whilst you have been left alone, we cannot allow you to bring your babaric ways into the vastness of the universe. Your weapons will not be tollerated above your atmosphere.
"...Then, armed to your teeths you go through these rooms and delete files by shooting att them...."
Precisely what i want some kid to be thinking whilst he's running extremely new (and possibly dangerous) software on the network looking for things to destroy with his new spear, shotgun, or sniper rifle. Just in time for Monday - horray.
Nice use of "quotation marks" there. Well done. Secondly, i have purchased software from our computer store, Visual Studio.Net, Borland, Office, etc. No RedHat boxed sets in there, genius. But thanks anyway, son.
Correct. i am a student. Good to see you picked up on that. As for the computer, i guess you are not a student...at least not of logical thinking anyway. The computer was a gift. So what is that you were asking? Oh, you're done now? Glad to hear it. Calm down, son.
Re:$179? No problem.
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i was about to thank you for your help, but that last line kinda ruins it. Thanks for the help, but not for being a tool.
Yeah, and you aren't a student right now are you? $200 will be change later on in life for me, but not at this time. Consider other situations before running your mouth.
i have used Gentoo on Sun Blade 150's and i have to say the Gentoo documentation and extremely helpful #gentoo-sparc channel are by far the best i've seen in the Linux community. i'm still looking at Gentoo for my machines; reading and watching about the stability of options and package inclusions....mainly feeling out the stability.
Michael, for the most part, is a crappy editor. Now, hold on before you get all in an uproar. His story choices are out of sync with most of the other Slashdot staff and a good deal of/. readers; the guy is a moron.
And yes, RH is moving more towards this "subscription based" model....if you want upgrades and patches anyway. Sure, you could do it yourself, but the RH Network has been one of the main drawing points due to its ease of use. i know they have to charge for that service, but i still want a *real* version of RedHat for download, NOT this Fedora testbed nonsense.
At a loss....
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i'm going to have to upgrade my machines, but am NOT going to pay $179 to do it, but can't trust the possibility of Fedora adding/removing/changing things willy-nilly (i know there's more care taken than that, but not the kind of care that will taken with Enterprise for Workstations and it's siblings). i'm not sure which distro will upgrade my RedHat installs with the least disruption. And i hate to sound like a crufty old man, but i'm used to the RH tools and don't really desire to learn the in's and out's of a new distro, but i 'spose i'll have to.
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i don't think i could agree with you more. Right on. You are very correct in dreading the day is gone or close enough that its cost makes it "gone" to normal people.
Sorry. Forgot a part.
How to get everyone behind something like this? Hike the fuck out of gas prices and gas taxes.
The riots ensuing will be far worse if this problem is ignored and people find out that instead of having "a little left to tide us over until the trasition is complete" to "we are fucked and time is up."
Things like this are amazing ideas and very, very, very important and will only be increasing more so. Oil won't last forever. You know it. i know it. Why beat around the bush (no pun) and say 10, 20, 50, etc years? Who gives a fuck *how* long we have....get on the ball and get renewable energy sources up past 95% of out uses.
Sad part is tanks and planes don't run on well wishes and rainbows, the US military and the non-efficient consumer vehicles have *got* to be brought under control. Go ahead and argue all you want. You are wrong and we have *got* to get off of energy sources that will run out.
Also, i'm happy this sort of thing is being done....just wish more and more stories of new energy studies (that don't involve how to make *more* money for oil companies) come from the US. We either need to get *everyone* behind this or it's not going to happen. People, in general, are lazy and won't change unless they have a personal interest or are forced to. Let's get some grants and scholarships for people doing this kind of work in the US.
Sorry for rambling and not spell checking.
It is simply, unFUCKING believable that companies and people are STILL doing this kind of shit. Has any of these morons ever heard of Cliff Stoll or read his book? Or know anything about how FUCKING STUPID backdoors are?
Truly amazing these people make things that are trusted to run the financial infrastructure of this country.
i use an old 133MHz PI w/ 128MB ram for a RH9 firewall on cable modem. The workload hardly *ever* gets near 1 at all. There are many, many uses for old PC's.
Hell, i hooked up a USB cam w/ motion detect software (check sourceforge) to catch which one of our cats was crapping on the couch! Worked like a dream. Plenty of apps for those old beasts.
Sorry, but that looks so photoshopped it hurts. If it is a real product, damn, why not...oh, i don't know....hire a real outfit to photograph it instead of letting a few blind folks mock up the pic?
"...Microsoft becomes friendly with Sun?.."
:)
Never confuse long-term, cloaked malice with cash-wrapped friendliness
i too can live with Apple's drm. i agree with you 100%. Want to add a few things too.They have a solid, very well thought out product and i use it a lot. Legally. Why? Because of how easy and user friendly iTunes is to use...why the hell would i want to put up with spyware, malware and other shit that comes with shoddy p2p software when Apple has put together a solid, easy to use product?
i really, really hope this has very, very little effect on how Apple operates its music division.
As for not owning the bits on my computer....i know there are a lot of hot-heads out there ranting and raving about "it's my goddamn computer, i'll do whatever the hell i want...", etc. But ya know what? i don't give a damn whose bits these are...i'm just enjoying some music while i code my homework.
This little game of drm/crack is quite interesting in light of this thought:
So you want the music industry to play fair, lower prices (a lot), and treat the artists well. Okay, say we're in some other universe and you get this wish. The music industry is the perfect paragon of what you think it should be. Low prices for cd's, no sky high exec salaries, artists treated well. Fine.
Continuing in our new universe, do you honestly think that all of the sudden all filetraders will graciously stop trading and support the newly benevolent music industry? Not a chance in hell. People will keep taking what they can get for free so long as the perceived chance of being caught is low.
Say the filetraders in this new universe were struck to all of the sudden play by the rules. Great. Utopia. But that won't ever happen. War is FAR more horrific than filetrading and the human race has failed to get remove is thus far. i don't hold out much hope of the trading or cash-grabbing stopping.
The music industry brought you the "digital" age of music enabling them to get it to you cheaper and faster, but forgot that you too can now trade them cheaper and faster. Why now all the trading? Got news for you, been going on for years with tapes....but just like the music industry, you can't move them about as fast or easily.
This needs to be modded up due to the grandparent being possibly false.
People, UPDATE your virus and adware scanners before running them and proclaiming yourself "clean". Damn.
"..Note especially the bit about liability for what you post online. A *lot* of people who post on Slashdot ought to read that part..."
;-p
Including some of the editors
Oh, it's just 100,000 nerds stampeding to get l33t3 Microsoft code in order to search through it to find secret Windows exploits to be had. *sigh*
:)
Funny thing is 95,000 of those don't know C from php from COBOL from ada.
Anyway, should be interesting to see what becomes of this
We have watched you for millions of years. We have watched you grow and advance and learn and war and love and die.
We have viewed you babarity with curiousity that a race of such intelligence could ravage its own. We have seen you let your own starve when your Earth produces more than enough for all. We have only watched.
Whilst you have been left alone, we cannot allow you to bring your babaric ways into the vastness of the universe. Your weapons will not be tollerated above your atmosphere.
You have been warned.
"...Then, armed to your teeths you go through these rooms and delete files by shooting att them. ..."
Precisely what i want some kid to be thinking whilst he's running extremely new (and possibly dangerous) software on the network looking for things to destroy with his new spear, shotgun, or sniper rifle. Just in time for Monday - horray.
Nice use of "quotation marks" there. Well done. Secondly, i have purchased software from our computer store, Visual Studio .Net, Borland, Office, etc. No RedHat boxed sets in there, genius. But thanks anyway, son.
Correct. i am a student. Good to see you picked up on that. As for the computer, i guess you are not a student...at least not of logical thinking anyway. The computer was a gift. So what is that you were asking? Oh, you're done now? Glad to hear it. Calm down, son.
i was about to thank you for your help, but that last line kinda ruins it. Thanks for the help, but not for being a tool.
Yeah, and you aren't a student right now are you? $200 will be change later on in life for me, but not at this time. Consider other situations before running your mouth.
i have used Gentoo on Sun Blade 150's and i have to say the Gentoo documentation and extremely helpful #gentoo-sparc channel are by far the best i've seen in the Linux community. i'm still looking at Gentoo for my machines; reading and watching about the stability of options and package inclusions....mainly feeling out the stability.
Michael, for the most part, is a crappy editor. Now, hold on before you get all in an uproar. His story choices are out of sync with most of the other Slashdot staff and a good deal of /. readers; the guy is a moron.
And yes, RH is moving more towards this "subscription based" model....if you want upgrades and patches anyway. Sure, you could do it yourself, but the RH Network has been one of the main drawing points due to its ease of use. i know they have to charge for that service, but i still want a *real* version of RedHat for download, NOT this Fedora testbed nonsense.
i'm going to have to upgrade my machines, but am NOT going to pay $179 to do it, but can't trust the possibility of Fedora adding/removing/changing things willy-nilly (i know there's more care taken than that, but not the kind of care that will taken with Enterprise for Workstations and it's siblings). i'm not sure which distro will upgrade my RedHat installs with the least disruption. And i hate to sound like a crufty old man, but i'm used to the RH tools and don't really desire to learn the in's and out's of a new distro, but i 'spose i'll have to.
*shakes head at RedHat*
And i think we already went over how it gives Microsoft a "foot in the door" for interoperability with Unix via java and .NET.
First they ignored, then laughed and are now assimilating.
Fox is notorious for doing stupid things like killing good programming and maniac, from-the-hip sensational "journalism".
It really makes you wonder what world the people who call the shots live in.
i don't care what you "feel" about the comment; it is true.
Mod up, please.
i'm pretty damn sure this is one of the signs!!!
REPENT!!!! The end times are near!!!"