Ah, but we foreigners know that the FBI is completely trustworthy and above contempt!
Just ask that contemptible scoundrel of international renown, Dmitry Sklyarov, just how just and fair and just the American legal system is!
<sarcasm/>
Yet another reason why I will stay in my comparitively safe, free and open little country. South Africa, please forgive me if I've said anything bad about you lately...
The biggest problem we have here in the third world, other than education, is housing.
Currently what happens is that -- in the urbunising of people -- most people tend to build with whatever materials they have available leading to shanty-towns all over Africa with people living in shack-like hovels.
If this technology is able to deliver, and deliver cheaply, we might just have one of the technologies needed to bootstrap Africa out of abject poverty.
The other major problem, education, might just be in the hands of the OLPC guys...
Assuming HP shipped you a PC with absolutely no O.S. installed, how exactly would you go about downloading this wonderful free O.S.?
In South Africa we have a special name for the solution to your quandary. We call them Freedom Toasters and will allow you to burn a complete Linux distro while you wait.
We have them all over the country at various sites, such as Shopping Centres and the like.
Sometimes living in a Third World country with crappy international internet connectivity isn't all bad...
Yes! Great idea! Just trust all of your internal documents to a random third party company with no privacy guarantees.
Yes, your Sarcasm is well placed. Yet another reason not to use Microsoft products!
But hey, at least they've made a vague "Do no evil" promise!!1!
Oh, you meant Google, not Microsoft! Ah, well, this -- at least -- is something you'll have to wait for hell to freeze over before you get from Microsoft...
While there is merit in your assertion that a Soldier's purpose is defence, I must submit that the method of execution is usually violence. Was it not for the treat of violence most attackers would have little more to fear than harsh words...
I will also admit that the only soldiers that love war are those that have either never been in one or have forgotten that the only "glory" in war is in storybooks. The only other people who actually seem to like wars are the damned politicians.
All combat soldiers know that war is, indeed, Hell. Trite it might sound; but that does not detract from the truth of the statement.
I would much have preferred dreams of glory to the, thankfully now increasingly infrequent, nightmares of war...
The people who do such things to prisoners aren't cops, or soldiers, or any kind of public servant. They're criminals, and because of their abuse of power, should be treated even more harshly than we treat serial killers, pedophiles, and other such scum.
Well glory be! Here I'm about to agree with a Yank on something... <grin/>
In the mid-to-late 80s I, like so many other South African White Males, were doing border duty (the border between the current Namibia and Angola, that is). Most of our time was spent waiting, like seems the wont to soldiers.
During that time I noticed something: It was a rare occurence when you would find a soldier not involved in some way with the local populace. We spent a lot of time helping them build huts in their "Kraals" (encampments) and spent a hell of a lot of time playing sports with the local lads: we taught them forms of Rugby and Cricket; they taugt us not to even consider taking them on in Football (Soccer to you Merkans).
The reality check came the day we were playing Rugby in a shallow part of the Okavango River near Rundu. The game had just gone into the second half and the local lads were finally giving us a decent (read tough) game when all of a sudden they all ran for it. Astounded we looked around to see the police having arrived on their patrol.
We were quite aware that Koevoet was much feared by the locals, and with good reason: we avoided them out of both professional and personal dislike in general ourselves, but these were normal police!
Now there is something seriously wrong when a civilian will willingly socialise with a Soldier (a man whose whole purpose is violence) but run from a Policeman, who is supposed to protect and serve. We never found out what caused the fear, but it certainly was evident. It might have been association with Koevoet (Guilt by association, as it were) are fear in their own right, but I do know we didn't like the implications much.
Meh... Didn't like the Police then; don't have much time for them now: years after and many kilometers from the event. Not only did the bastards ruin what was a good game, they also ruined what was shaping up to be a very fine relationship. It never was the same from when they arrived in force in the region and I in all honsty would not be very surprised to find that the people around Rundu still fear any type of Police...
Once the whole world seemed to have standardized on Posix. Then Bill Gates came along....
Bill Gates as God...
The mind boggles.
Oh, I see, you meant an Old Testament God. All arbitrary with complicated rules 'n shit. Making sure no-one has any fun and ruining progress.
And then came the saviour, Linus - the son of the spirit of Unix - and saved all of us.
Interesting, those thoughts of yours, but I do like the way your mind works.
I'd just stay far away from places of Judeo-Christian-Islamic worship, the "great" outdoors when there is any possibility of lightning strikes and any Computer Shops selling Windows software...
I think neither of the Big-G's will appreciate this comparison of yours...
We have a tough enough time getting decent bandwidth down here at the Southern tip of Africa, without you bastards Slashdotting our Telescope and taking our undersea cables with it!
Building one would indeed be a stunning LUG project.
What's more, you should be able to get the guys over at the Shuttleworth Foundation to hand over the source code and plans for one of them beasties without too much of a struggle.
I know they had mentioned on CLUG-Tech or CLUG-Chat that all software managing it is licenced under the GPL. Which, of course, is as it should be...
Cost to the user? Not a singe cent... The machines themselves are sponsored by the Shuttleworth Foundation and designed and built by them in co-operation with some CLUG -- Cape Linux User's Group -- members.
At Canal-Walk (a large shopping centre between Bellville and Cape Town) they went even further and added a vending machine loaded with CD-R's. The CD's are a bit on the expensive side (ZAR 5.00 or about 80 US cents each) but you certainly can't beat it for convenience.
And if the R5/CD price is a bit too steep for you, you can always walk to any of five-or-six Computer shops in the centre and buy CDs cheaper from there...
He's not talking about Unix per se when he says "Unix"; you should instead read it as "the Unix Way," which will not likely end up deprecated for a long time.
Don't even bother trying to explain it to him...
He is just another WinTroll, and like all WinTrolls he is more intent in muddying the waters and hopefully keep someone else from switching to Free/Open Source Software than actually understanding the realities behind the Unix philosophy.
WinTrolls sort of brings to mind Creationists (or whatever they get called this week) refusing to understand and/or acknowledge fundamental realities.
It is easier to call into doubt the definition than argue the point, you see. It is easier to use inflammatory language (calling them "bigots") than acknowledging the possibility of having to re-educate yourself.
Thank heavens Unix users learn to think (understand) first, which leads to a thankfully lower resistance to change.
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Ah, but we foreigners know that the FBI is completely trustworthy and above contempt!
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Just ask that contemptible scoundrel of international renown, Dmitry Sklyarov, just how just and fair and just the American legal system is!
<sarcasm
Yet another reason why I will stay in my comparitively safe, free and open little country. South Africa, please forgive me if I've said anything bad about you lately...
The biggest problem we have here in the third world, other than education, is housing.
Currently what happens is that -- in the urbunising of people -- most people tend to build with whatever materials they have available leading to shanty-towns all over Africa with people living in shack-like hovels.
If this technology is able to deliver, and deliver cheaply, we might just have one of the technologies needed to bootstrap Africa out of abject poverty.
The other major problem, education, might just be in the hands of the OLPC guys...
Granted I'm not the prototypical candidate for one of these:
- I'm from South Africa and
- I'm a Geek,
but added to the fact that it doesn't have 3G (which all of it's competitors at this price-point does have) this becomes a no-show for me at least.Erm, well...
It would seem that they actually have...
Can we say Vexed? Those bastards! I hate them; they've stolen many hours of my life...
It's the one game, though, that would fully justify me replacing my TX if it had to depart this world for Valhalla prematurely...
You've already got it. That's why she's pepper-spraying you...
In South Africa we have a special name for the solution to your quandary. We call them Freedom Toasters and will allow you to burn a complete Linux distro while you wait.
We have them all over the country at various sites, such as Shopping Centres and the like.
Sometimes living in a Third World country with crappy international internet connectivity isn't all bad...
Yes, your Sarcasm is well placed. Yet another reason not to use Microsoft products!
Oh, you meant Google, not Microsoft! Ah, well, this -- at least -- is something you'll have to wait for hell to freeze over before you get from Microsoft...
While there is merit in your assertion that a Soldier's purpose is defence, I must submit that the method of execution is usually violence. Was it not for the treat of violence most attackers would have little more to fear than harsh words...
I will also admit that the only soldiers that love war are those that have either never been in one or have forgotten that the only "glory" in war is in storybooks. The only other people who actually seem to like wars are the damned politicians.
All combat soldiers know that war is, indeed, Hell. Trite it might sound; but that does not detract from the truth of the statement.
I would much have preferred dreams of glory to the, thankfully now increasingly infrequent, nightmares of war...
Well glory be! Here I'm about to agree with a Yank on something... <grin/>
In the mid-to-late 80s I, like so many other South African White Males, were doing border duty (the border between the current Namibia and Angola, that is). Most of our time was spent waiting, like seems the wont to soldiers.
During that time I noticed something: It was a rare occurence when you would find a soldier not involved in some way with the local populace. We spent a lot of time helping them build huts in their "Kraals" (encampments) and spent a hell of a lot of time playing sports with the local lads: we taught them forms of Rugby and Cricket; they taugt us not to even consider taking them on in Football (Soccer to you Merkans).
The reality check came the day we were playing Rugby in a shallow part of the Okavango River near Rundu. The game had just gone into the second half and the local lads were finally giving us a decent (read tough) game when all of a sudden they all ran for it. Astounded we looked around to see the police having arrived on their patrol.
We were quite aware that Koevoet was much feared by the locals, and with good reason: we avoided them out of both professional and personal dislike in general ourselves, but these were normal police!
Now there is something seriously wrong when a civilian will willingly socialise with a Soldier (a man whose whole purpose is violence) but run from a Policeman, who is supposed to protect and serve. We never found out what caused the fear, but it certainly was evident. It might have been association with Koevoet (Guilt by association, as it were) are fear in their own right, but I do know we didn't like the implications much.
Meh... Didn't like the Police then; don't have much time for them now: years after and many kilometers from the event. Not only did the bastards ruin what was a good game, they also ruined what was shaping up to be a very fine relationship. It never was the same from when they arrived in force in the region and I in all honsty would not be very surprised to find that the people around Rundu still fear any type of Police...
Can we all say "Innocent unless proven guilty?"
But then again, I'm South African. It might be just the way we naïve third-wolders think about things...
Not just a , the . For life. Just ask him...<evil grin/>
I dunno, let's have a look...
Hmm, looks fine to me. In actual fact, it looks damn good. Much better than
Tables suck!
If you prefer Modeless Editors, have a look at Cream for Vim.
Personally I dislike it intensely, but it does have a place when people have issues with "Modes" in Editors.
Hey, could be worse.
They could pull a 720...
Damn, and here I thought they looked bad because they were grabbed from an XP machine...
Live and learn, I suppose. Live and learn...
Fsck, just what we need.
"The Corporate Eye for the Geeky Guy"... Just lovely...
Bill Gates as God...
The mind boggles.
Oh, I see, you meant an Old Testament God. All arbitrary with complicated rules 'n shit. Making sure no-one has any fun and ruining progress.
And then came the saviour, Linus - the son of the spirit of Unix - and saved all of us.
Interesting, those thoughts of yours, but I do like the way your mind works.
I'd just stay far away from places of Judeo-Christian-Islamic worship, the "great" outdoors when there is any possibility of lightning strikes and any Computer Shops selling Windows software...
I think neither of the Big-G's will appreciate this comparison of yours...
Mutter, mutter, mutter...
Building one would indeed be a stunning LUG project. What's more, you should be able to get the guys over at the Shuttleworth Foundation to hand over the source code and plans for one of them beasties without too much of a struggle. I know they had mentioned on CLUG-Tech or CLUG-Chat that all software managing it is licenced under the GPL. Which, of course, is as it should be...
Cost to the user? Not a singe cent... The machines themselves are sponsored by the Shuttleworth Foundation and designed and built by them in co-operation with some CLUG -- Cape Linux User's Group -- members.
At Canal-Walk (a large shopping centre between Bellville and Cape Town) they went even further and added a vending machine loaded with CD-R's. The CD's are a bit on the expensive side (ZAR 5.00 or about 80 US cents each) but you certainly can't beat it for convenience.
And if the R5/CD price is a bit too steep for you, you can always walk to any of five-or-six Computer shops in the centre and buy CDs cheaper from there...
... In their all but... erm... infinite wisdom opting for the freaking escape character!
Not something at all unknown to them, as most of the support utilities for DOS 2 was programmed in C.
Bottom line: it was either malice or gross stupidity on their part.
You pick...
Don't even bother trying to explain it to him...
He is just another WinTroll, and like all WinTrolls he is more intent in muddying the waters and hopefully keep someone else from switching to Free/Open Source Software than actually understanding the realities behind the Unix philosophy.
WinTrolls sort of brings to mind Creationists (or whatever they get called this week) refusing to understand and/or acknowledge fundamental realities.
It is easier to call into doubt the definition than argue the point, you see. It is easier to use inflammatory language (calling them "bigots") than acknowledging the possibility of having to re-educate yourself.
Thank heavens Unix users learn to think (understand) first, which leads to a thankfully lower resistance to change.
Sure sounds a hell of a lot like Slashdot, does it not?