Simply theorizing the existence of such a set of morals is enough to show that objectively wrong acts exist. However it is not sufficient to judge any specific action. For any given finite set (of moral systems, acts judged by those systems, meta-moral systems by which to judge moral systems, farm animals, etc) a unique ordering is possible with a first (best) and last (worst) element. There exist some number of moral systems in all of existence (some known by humanity, far more not), of those one is best and from it some act is deemed worst. We can offer commentary on the sub set of moral systems known to man, but that doesn't change set theory. I don't claim to have a useful answer just a theoretically correct one.
I would just like to second the distaste for control panels and FTP servers. Especially control panels because they encourage people not to understand what they're actually doing and its implications.
That said even without active monitoring it's pretty easy to figure out when a customer machine has been compromised. When the abuse complaints start rolling in about SSH brute force attacks originating from said machine it doesn't take much to figure out that somebody's gotten in to a machine they shouldn't have. Even with all the stealth and cunning in the world it's pretty hard to hide the fact that you're making outbound SSH connections that are ending up in somebody else's auth.log.
I have looked forward with dread to the day I'm going to have to fall back to Debian proper because of some stunt pulled by Ubuntu. I've run Debian Stable on a number of servers, and like Stable, that said on the desktop I can't see Stable working to well on the desktop. How does Sid stack up to Gentoo in terms of breaking all the damn time and requiring maintenance, hacks, and demonic sacrifices to keep working day to day? Would Testing with an absurd amount of apt pinning be better?
Also is there some obvious replacement to the PPA system/plethora of third party repositories for running XYZ random application or Foo version 0.99-svn-rightnow-so_new_it_hurts?
So it's a multichoice box somewhere in the GUI then?
No.
The non-easy solution was to modify or make a gconf key. Is that really the easy way of doing it?
Nope.
Just use Ubuntu Tweak and quit complaining. It's even easier than a dropdown box, you just drag the buttons around, and they change in real time. Before you complain that they're third party, think about the name for one second, the tool for tweaking Ubuntu is named Ubuntu Tweak, what more do you really want.
Change step one to:
1) Some particularly radical bastion of liberalism / progressivism (Berkeley, perhaps, or another community with similar values) passes a city ordinance declaring judicial decisions that infringe upon free speech are obscene.
Have them arrest the judges, let them testify: they'll either have to admit guilt, or do a 180 on their own ruling. I very much doubt they will do the former, and the latter should provide sound legal reason as to why the original ruling was incorrect.
What about any outbound TCP connection? Aren't all outbound connections by definition uninvited.
I'm pretty sure slashdot didn't send me a nice embossed letter say "Please send an HTTP GET request to our fine server at 216.34.181.45 on port 80". Maybe Taco should do that for Verison Customers, hell I'd probably frame something like that.
I'm assuming that PackageKit still requires root to modify shared system areas where the owner is root (e.g./usr/bin etc.)
No, that's exactly what people are upset about, that any random account logged in to the physical machine can write to/usr/bin, the things that they can write are limited to the contents of signed packages, but that's still a whole lot more than the absolutely nothing they could write under F11. Also all the comments I've seen are about adding packages, but does this also allow removing packages?
Kinda. The shim itself, which references the kernel headers and is definitely a derivative work, is released under the gpl. The blob, who knows what's in the by it's nature, but my understanding is that it exposes functions that represent hardware capabilities, and little if anything to do with what the OS does with those functions. It's the same set of functions that's exposed by the driver to windows, so hardly OS specific. I'm not sure about the legal status of the combined blob shim, but from a practical stand point it only interacts with kernel functions that aren't exposed as GPL_ONLY. Which is why the binary driver doesn't support KMS, because all the KMS functions are exposed as GPL_ONLY.
Hopefully Nouveau will have working 3d soon, as it's gpl throughout, and already has KMS working.
No you still don't get it. Please tell us how you can infringe on this:
"2.1.2 Linux/FreeBSD/OpenSolaris Exception. Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux or FreeBSD operating systems, or other operating systems derived from the source code to these operating systems, may be copied and redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for unzipping of compressed files)."[1]
That is the license in question. There is no infringement, they are acting with in the license. There is a reason that the drivers are broken in to binary blobs with a stable abi, the the open source shim the connects that stable abi to the current kernel api.
The big problem of Gnome shell, is that it's not modular. The problem isn't just that the default configuration has one panel, it's that THE configuration has one panel. And it's not even a panel, the menu/top bar is a singular whole unit, the elements can't be moved, removed, or added to. If gnome-shell provided a different default configuration, that wouldn't be a problem, the problem is that gnome-shell is a singular unit, you get all of it or none of it. Also gnome-shell isn't a stand alone application, it's a module/library loaded by the mutter window manager, so if you use a window manager other than mutter, like say compiz, you're left out in the cold. Gnome-shell not playing nice with other window managers isn't a problem as long as gnome-panel is still developed, supported, and packaged, but how long is that going to be?
I don't believe that the headers are installed by default, but there are a bunch of packages that depend on it because they use DKMS, such as:
Asterisk
the BCM43xx driver
All the closed video drivers
Virtual box
the LIRC drivers
kqemu
So while not installed by default, I'd guess they're a pretty common thing to have installed.
Maybe the should have thought of that before deciding to be bigots? If I'm a bad person, people will think less of me, seems pretty straightforward to me.
Group A does everything in it's power to harass, belittle and diminish the civil rights of group B. And suddenly want to cry foul when some one calls them out in public for it. Arguing that being called out as being a bigoted asshole is harassment seems out of place, if calling them out is harassment how do they handle the cognitive dissonance that sins they're being called out for are far worse?
A topical counter point to this is the first episode of SG1, which kicked all kinds of ass, and in my opinion was better than the movie. And yes Fox does love to kill good sci-fi, bastards.
Really? Awesome! Where can I get this "much better Ubuntu" I've been running Jaunty since alpha 3, so that can't be the version you're talking about. If you could kindly point me to a working fix for this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/59867
I would be a very happy man.
Hell I'm generally a linux fanboi, but really to say that suspend is working takes quite a leap of faith. The OP wasn't trolling this stuff really is broken, I'm glad your system works count yourself lucky. Frankly every laptop I've ever seen has an i8042 controller in it, and every bug report I've ever seen related to the i8042's suspend issue has been closed as "won't fix", so not only is it broken but the devs appear to be playing ostrich on this one.
Hold on that seems way too circular to be Kosher.
The police are acted in good faith, because they assumed the judge would act in good faith, at the same time the judge was acting in good faith because he assumed the police were acting in good faith? How do you ever get a mis-deed out of that set of conditions?
Somebody screwed up, an innocent man had his stuff seized for no good reason (being a linux user of all things). I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that there should be no repercussions for those involved. The police weren't competent to handle the matter and the judge wasn't competent to issue the warrant. Someone needs to be held accountable for the damaged they caused, "I didn't mean to hurt anyone" is a weak excuse for a common man, but no way in hell should that fly for those that are supposed to be trained in law enforcement.
Adblock? I was throughly confused about how people were finding these sites, turned off adblock, and lo and behold, right there at the top of the page was the link.
After I did finally find the site I noticed the OO banner at the top of the page, and decided to do a bit of investigating. Luckily virtual directory browsing was enabled for the banners folder so I started browsing through them, most of them were open source stuff as expected. And then I came across the banner for Adobe Photoshop CS3. Selling "download" services of open source software is legal, but pretty assholish, but how are the planning to get away with offering Photoshop? Is it the demo?
I tried google.com and google.de and I couldn't find a site that charged for OOo. 3 of the top 4 sites returned by google.de were from the OOo domain, the one that wasn't offered it for free. There was a warning on de.openoffice.org about people charing money for OOo. I'm not finding these mythical pay sites, and I'm looking for them. How do people find them accidentally? Can some one point one out to me? Do these sites even look remotely legit?
With recent releases of GTK#, C# is a fine language for knocking out a quick and dirty UI in linux as well. I haven't tried the mono implementation of winforms yet (I'm not sure it's even useful currently), but GTK# is a lot nicer to work with than Swing.
C# is a damn good language, the only problem is that it's a Microsoft technology, and people are rightly a bit weary of it.
My "solution" for running the betas under Ubuntu, was to download the official tarball from Mozilla, and unpack it in my home directory and go nuts with symlinks. I've got the plugins directory from my FF2 install symlinked in to the plugins folder of the beta install, so it has all the plugins and acts just like it's using the package management system for them, and then symlinked ~/FF3B4/firefox to/usr/local/bin.
I'm sure the answer is RTFA, but this is slashdot.
Is there any plan in place to sanity check these requests? One of the suggestions was a rewrite of the FHS, my first thought was is this guy mentally defective? Ubuntu has no authority to change the FHS, and even if they did, his proposal included standard paths with spaces in the directory name. I know it's ubuntu, we're nice and don't tell people to fuck off, but is there going to be an official mechanism to tell people they are too stupid to contribute and should go away and never come back?
That the Ubuntu Firefox3 Beta3 Package is a bad joke. It's supposed to be FF3B3, but if you look at the contents of the deb, it's actually a transitional package (I assume poorly backported from Hardy), that depends on the Firefox-3.0 package which is FF3 Alpha8, so if you look at the help menu About Firefox dialog, it shows the version as alpha8, which has the old quote in it. I ended up breaking down getting the tared version straight from mozilla, dropping it in/opt/ and symlinking it in to/usr/local/bin, but that's because I'm a bad/lazy person.
And this is why Business ethics will never ever work. A public company tries to do some thing other than the most profitable option in front of them, like behave civilly*, and next thing you know their share holders sue them until they give in and act like profit mongering dicks.
*I'm not say Yahoo is acting with the public's best interest at heart, just that this case illustrates why a company can't operate that way.
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Simply theorizing the existence of such a set of morals is enough to show that objectively wrong acts exist. However it is not sufficient to judge any specific action. For any given finite set (of moral systems, acts judged by those systems, meta-moral systems by which to judge moral systems, farm animals, etc) a unique ordering is possible with a first (best) and last (worst) element. There exist some number of moral systems in all of existence (some known by humanity, far more not), of those one is best and from it some act is deemed worst. We can offer commentary on the sub set of moral systems known to man, but that doesn't change set theory. I don't claim to have a useful answer just a theoretically correct one.
Not only does that cost money, it's socialism and therefor implicitly evil, and worse than the massacre at hand.
I would just like to second the distaste for control panels and FTP servers. Especially control panels because they encourage people not to understand what they're actually doing and its implications.
That said even without active monitoring it's pretty easy to figure out when a customer machine has been compromised. When the abuse complaints start rolling in about SSH brute force attacks originating from said machine it doesn't take much to figure out that somebody's gotten in to a machine they shouldn't have. Even with all the stealth and cunning in the world it's pretty hard to hide the fact that you're making outbound SSH connections that are ending up in somebody else's auth.log.
I have looked forward with dread to the day I'm going to have to fall back to Debian proper because of some stunt pulled by Ubuntu. I've run Debian Stable on a number of servers, and like Stable, that said on the desktop I can't see Stable working to well on the desktop. How does Sid stack up to Gentoo in terms of breaking all the damn time and requiring maintenance, hacks, and demonic sacrifices to keep working day to day? Would Testing with an absurd amount of apt pinning be better?
Also is there some obvious replacement to the PPA system/plethora of third party repositories for running XYZ random application or Foo version 0.99-svn-rightnow-so_new_it_hurts?
Very easily?
Yes.
So it's a multichoice box somewhere in the GUI then?
No.
The non-easy solution was to modify or make a gconf key. Is that really the easy way of doing it?
Nope.
Just use Ubuntu Tweak and quit complaining. It's even easier than a dropdown box, you just drag the buttons around, and they change in real time. Before you complain that they're third party, think about the name for one second, the tool for tweaking Ubuntu is named Ubuntu Tweak, what more do you really want.
You're both some what correct. I'm running Lucid with the buttons on the right side. The order you want for the artwork to look correct is:
"menu:maximize,minimize,close"
Up the ante.
Change step one to:
1) Some particularly radical bastion of liberalism / progressivism (Berkeley, perhaps, or another community with similar values) passes a city ordinance declaring judicial decisions that infringe upon free speech are obscene.
Have them arrest the judges, let them testify: they'll either have to admit guilt, or do a 180 on their own ruling. I very much doubt they will do the former, and the latter should provide sound legal reason as to why the original ruling was incorrect.
What about any outbound TCP connection? Aren't all outbound connections by definition uninvited.
I'm pretty sure slashdot didn't send me a nice embossed letter say "Please send an HTTP GET request to our fine server at 216.34.181.45 on port 80". Maybe Taco should do that for Verison Customers, hell I'd probably frame something like that.
I'm assuming that PackageKit still requires root to modify shared system areas where the owner is root (e.g. /usr/bin etc.)
No, that's exactly what people are upset about, that any random account logged in to the physical machine can write to /usr/bin, the things that they can write are limited to the contents of signed packages, but that's still a whole lot more than the absolutely nothing they could write under F11. Also all the comments I've seen are about adding packages, but does this also allow removing packages?
Kinda. The shim itself, which references the kernel headers and is definitely a derivative work, is released under the gpl. The blob, who knows what's in the by it's nature, but my understanding is that it exposes functions that represent hardware capabilities, and little if anything to do with what the OS does with those functions. It's the same set of functions that's exposed by the driver to windows, so hardly OS specific. I'm not sure about the legal status of the combined blob shim, but from a practical stand point it only interacts with kernel functions that aren't exposed as GPL_ONLY. Which is why the binary driver doesn't support KMS, because all the KMS functions are exposed as GPL_ONLY.
Hopefully Nouveau will have working 3d soon, as it's gpl throughout, and already has KMS working.
No you still don't get it. Please tell us how you can infringe on this:
"2.1.2 Linux/FreeBSD/OpenSolaris Exception. Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux or FreeBSD operating systems, or other operating systems derived from the source code to these operating systems, may be copied and redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for unzipping of compressed files)."[1]
That is the license in question. There is no infringement, they are acting with in the license. There is a reason that the drivers are broken in to binary blobs with a stable abi, the the open source shim the connects that stable abi to the current kernel api.
[1]: http://www.nvidia.com/object/nv_swlicense.html
The big problem of Gnome shell, is that it's not modular. The problem isn't just that the default configuration has one panel, it's that THE configuration has one panel. And it's not even a panel, the menu/top bar is a singular whole unit, the elements can't be moved, removed, or added to. If gnome-shell provided a different default configuration, that wouldn't be a problem, the problem is that gnome-shell is a singular unit, you get all of it or none of it. Also gnome-shell isn't a stand alone application, it's a module/library loaded by the mutter window manager, so if you use a window manager other than mutter, like say compiz, you're left out in the cold. Gnome-shell not playing nice with other window managers isn't a problem as long as gnome-panel is still developed, supported, and packaged, but how long is that going to be?
I don't believe that the headers are installed by default, but there are a bunch of packages that depend on it because they use DKMS, such as:
Asterisk
the BCM43xx driver
All the closed video drivers
Virtual box
the LIRC drivers
kqemu
So while not installed by default, I'd guess they're a pretty common thing to have installed.
Maybe the should have thought of that before deciding to be bigots? If I'm a bad person, people will think less of me, seems pretty straightforward to me.
Group A does everything in it's power to harass, belittle and diminish the civil rights of group B. And suddenly want to cry foul when some one calls them out in public for it. Arguing that being called out as being a bigoted asshole is harassment seems out of place, if calling them out is harassment how do they handle the cognitive dissonance that sins they're being called out for are far worse?
A topical counter point to this is the first episode of SG1, which kicked all kinds of ass, and in my opinion was better than the movie. And yes Fox does love to kill good sci-fi, bastards.
Really? Awesome! Where can I get this "much better Ubuntu" I've been running Jaunty since alpha 3, so that can't be the version you're talking about. If you could kindly point me to a working fix for this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/59867
I would be a very happy man.
Hell I'm generally a linux fanboi, but really to say that suspend is working takes quite a leap of faith. The OP wasn't trolling this stuff really is broken, I'm glad your system works count yourself lucky. Frankly every laptop I've ever seen has an i8042 controller in it, and every bug report I've ever seen related to the i8042's suspend issue has been closed as "won't fix", so not only is it broken but the devs appear to be playing ostrich on this one.
Hold on that seems way too circular to be Kosher.
The police are acted in good faith, because they assumed the judge would act in good faith, at the same time the judge was acting in good faith because he assumed the police were acting in good faith? How do you ever get a mis-deed out of that set of conditions?
Somebody screwed up, an innocent man had his stuff seized for no good reason (being a linux user of all things). I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that there should be no repercussions for those involved. The police weren't competent to handle the matter and the judge wasn't competent to issue the warrant. Someone needs to be held accountable for the damaged they caused, "I didn't mean to hurt anyone" is a weak excuse for a common man, but no way in hell should that fly for those that are supposed to be trained in law enforcement.
Emacs, in fact it's Emacs all the way down.
Adblock? I was throughly confused about how people were finding these sites, turned off adblock, and lo and behold, right there at the top of the page was the link.
After I did finally find the site I noticed the OO banner at the top of the page, and decided to do a bit of investigating. Luckily virtual directory browsing was enabled for the banners folder so I started browsing through them, most of them were open source stuff as expected. And then I came across the banner for Adobe Photoshop CS3. Selling "download" services of open source software is legal, but pretty assholish, but how are the planning to get away with offering Photoshop? Is it the demo?
I tried google.com and google.de and I couldn't find a site that charged for OOo. 3 of the top 4 sites returned by google.de were from the OOo domain, the one that wasn't offered it for free. There was a warning on de.openoffice.org about people charing money for OOo. I'm not finding these mythical pay sites, and I'm looking for them. How do people find them accidentally? Can some one point one out to me? Do these sites even look remotely legit?
With recent releases of GTK#, C# is a fine language for knocking out a quick and dirty UI in linux as well. I haven't tried the mono implementation of winforms yet (I'm not sure it's even useful currently), but GTK# is a lot nicer to work with than Swing.
C# is a damn good language, the only problem is that it's a Microsoft technology, and people are rightly a bit weary of it.
My "solution" for running the betas under Ubuntu, was to download the official tarball from Mozilla, and unpack it in my home directory and go nuts with symlinks. I've got the plugins directory from my FF2 install symlinked in to the plugins folder of the beta install, so it has all the plugins and acts just like it's using the package management system for them, and then symlinked ~/FF3B4/firefox to /usr/local/bin.
I'm sure the answer is RTFA, but this is slashdot.
Is there any plan in place to sanity check these requests? One of the suggestions was a rewrite of the FHS, my first thought was is this guy mentally defective? Ubuntu has no authority to change the FHS, and even if they did, his proposal included standard paths with spaces in the directory name. I know it's ubuntu, we're nice and don't tell people to fuck off, but is there going to be an official mechanism to tell people they are too stupid to contribute and should go away and never come back?
That the Ubuntu Firefox3 Beta3 Package is a bad joke. It's supposed to be FF3B3, but if you look at the contents of the deb, it's actually a transitional package (I assume poorly backported from Hardy), that depends on the Firefox-3.0 package which is FF3 Alpha8, so if you look at the help menu About Firefox dialog, it shows the version as alpha8, which has the old quote in it. I ended up breaking down getting the tared version straight from mozilla, dropping it in /opt/ and symlinking it in to /usr/local/bin, but that's because I'm a bad/lazy person.
And this is why Business ethics will never ever work. A public company tries to do some thing other than the most profitable option in front of them, like behave civilly*, and next thing you know their share holders sue them until they give in and act like profit mongering dicks.
*I'm not say Yahoo is acting with the public's best interest at heart, just that this case illustrates why a company can't operate that way.