I'm 26, have got acid reflux that gives me no end of pain if i go off the meds for it, stress headaches most days, and tension in the shoulders massage barely manages to move.
I've been working for coming up five years, and know that I have another 40 or so to go before retirement, and frankly it scares me how my body is reacting to the corporate life. I'm meant to be in the prime of life, but i sure don't feel like it.
It is a straight forward event, and it baffles me that people would not choose the simplest explanation and would seek some "tin foil hat" explanation that has all manner of interlaced conspiracies.
For a building that has steel columns, once the columns get to about 600C (1100F), they lose all strength and would collapse.
I don't know a lot about WTC7, but the plaster board cladding systems that are typically used to protect steel columns would have been compromised just by the duration of the fire (working on typical ways that these systems are rated) burning all day. There would not need to be damage to the cladding by explosion.
You're right re collapses post earthquake. Water for fire fighting is usually compromised during an earthquake, and with the large number of building fires it isn't improbable that the fire department can't get to all fires before the building collapses.
Most high rise fires are extinguished either by sprinklers or fire fighting efforts and not left to burn themselves out.
Warehouses which are typically built with steel, collapse readily in fire, as they are usually easier to let burn down than to try to fight from inside.
From the stuff that I've heard regarding the WTC, it would have been the explosion from the initial impact that would have stripped away the insulation. Most fire cladding systems are only rated for a couple of hours. The thinking is that either sprinklers will kill the fire in the early stages so you don't get a big fire, or in a couple of hours you will have got everyone out and the fire service will have done their best.
Most fires burn in the region of 1800F (1000C). This is wood, or anything.
As far as I know, jets burn kerosene rather than diesel (would make an odd sound running a diesel jet engine)
9/11 was the sort of event that it is not practical to design for. Structurally it worked. The building stood up. The impact load from the plane (from a documentary i saw) was less than the deisgn level wind event, albeit focussed in one part of the building. There was no way to fire engineer that sort of event, short of a anti-aircraft missile site on the roof.
You just have to pray that you are all sorted with the almighty when that sort of thing happens
I'm a structural engineer and have designed enough in steel to be able to comment intelligently.
Steel becomes too weak to be relied upon for structural restrain under fire loading. The normal range of temperatures (hot days, cold days etc) will induce deflections that may cause changes in the stress distribution through the building but it will not affect the steel strength.
The normal way to deal with structural steel under fire loading is to encase it in something else that retards the heating of the steel, paint it in an intumescent paint that will swell up and provide a level of protection.
The main WTC would not have stood up with any fire protection system - the fire was so far larger than the design fires as to make it meaningless. I don't know about damage to, or the nature of the fire protection systems to the smaller WTC buildings.
We also had an email coming out this morning saying that SP2 isn't being rolled out immediately, as there was a belief that it would kill some existing programs.
I have no idea if this was tin-foil-hatting on the part of the IT section, or just waiting for the patch on SP2, but we were advised we coudln't connect to the network if SP2 was loaded on a box (I'm not sure why, but there you go).
Given that all the corporate boxes live behind corporate grade firewalls and stuff like that, I don't think that we're likely to be very vulnerable to attack in the month or so til the pack gets loaded up.
For the sake of those who thought to RTFA, the article gets you to email the author regarding the details of the exploit.
Extract from article: You may contact the author for further details as to the method of entry. All computer owners and administrators should be aware of the potential for theft if you utilize this device. The full details of how to compromise this device are contained in LSS+ Version 5.0 Multimedia edition of Locks, Safes, and Security. Kensington may be contacted for further information at 800-535-4242. The company was notified of the problem by the author on July 13, 2004 and has refused to comment on or acknowledge the problem, or to return any telephone calls or e-mails. The author believes that the manufacturer can remedy the problem and should be required to do so. All purchasers of this device may wish to request a replacement from the manufacturer that prevents this form of bypass.
Phone calls are used for informal communication, but the ability to type allows you to focus your attention on the content of what you are conveying rather than having to "hunt and peck" and struggle with the mechanism of communicating rather than the content.
The half year course I had on typing early in high school was enough to give me the foundation that I could develop a full touch typing ability when the throughput of work required it.
I love paper manuals for computer programs, or nearly anything in preference to help files or electronic copies of manuals, and really resent it when a supplier sends us a program we pay $5k for to not include a paper copy of the PDF manual they dropped onto the cd.
It is a lot harder to put post-it flags to mark the bits you refer to often, pencil in margin notes to clarify bits you had to work through, or cross reference to other sources of help.
I never really bought into the whole lifetime warranty thing til my victorinox knife had a bit break in it years after I bought it. No receipt of purchase, no longer in the city i bought it.
I took it to a random store that sold their knives, they sent it off, and I got a brand new knife back a week or so later.
I was amused, as my reasonably well thought out and level headed points managed to earn me my first foe in/. and a level of personal character assassination mostly centred on the fact that an engineer (stereotypically seen as more intelligent and rational members of society) could believe in God and creationism.
Given the intense level of debate, and the amount of heat as opposed to light from both sides of the evolution debate that ensued from the story, are we allowed to mod the whole article
-1 flamebait?;-)
The article is premised on this being another evidence of evolution.
Evolution runs into trouble at the cellular level with the high level of complexity that has yet to be replicated from base chemicals by modern labs.
If, with the input of directed effort by an intelligent person, we can't generate what the cells that all life is built from, then the house of cards falls down.
This is variation within a species, just as there is considerable variation within other species. So what if a monkey can walk?
PS I am a six day creation man, and have no problem at all believing in God making the whole shebang in under a week, and still retaining an IQ that could put me into mensa.
If it is possible to prosecute for the illegal use of a product which has a legal and legitimate use, then surely by extension it will only be a matter of time before someone (unless they already have) sues bullet makers for providing the means to kill people.
I know that guns don't kill people, it is people that kill people, but a VCR / CDR / generic recording device does have legitimate uses that don't violate copyright.
I am glad that I don't live in the states. If this is the model of democracy and things being done for the people rather than for the oligarchs (read the corporations the politicians seem to owe their souls to) then I would hate to see a country really in need of liberation.
As far as I can recall, vinyl was the only audio medium (in common use) that didn't get copied ad nauseum by the masses (on the same medium - am excluding ripping your 45 onto MP3 or CD).
Tape you could dub. I'm too young to recall 8 track but can't imagine it couldn't have been recorded in some fashion.
I can't see any music format coming out in the next N years that it wouldn't be possible to get a 99% good rip taking the analog output and putting that into the analog input of your sound card / minidisc deck / recording system of your choice. It isn't pure digital but for the unwashed masses and all those who didn't spend more on their stereo than their car it wont matter 99% of the time
O come on. The technology has been around for (many) years for similar things to allow "out of print" cds to be produced for people interested in music beyond the top 40 pop charts, and I have yet to see it in stores.
If the music industry couldn't get their act together to allow on the spot pressing / burning of their back catalogue it's a pipe dream to hope for this in books.
I too had given up on HP beign a serious player in the calculator field any more (discontinuing the HP32SII - WTF was up with that. The thing is bulletproof, light on memory but an interface that was quick and useful) but my brother (also an engineer) bought a new one for work and tells me that it isn't as awful as I'd thought they had become.
I may not have to give up knowing RPN and get a TI when my precious dies a long time from now.
buttons with a tactile feel (people seriously complained about the change in button bounce feel on the new HP calculators a few years back). battery life measured in years. build quality that makes it the unstoppable thing in the portable electroincs world.
the sort of person who lives and dies with their HP calculator is the sort of person who uses their PC for spreadsheets, their calculator for the quick and minor calculations, and a hard core analysis package for the really serious work.
I own two HP calculators and will probably get another when the last of these ones die in 10+ years time, as my brother has one of the newer ones and told me that they are not as awful as I'd been led to believe they were.
Oh, and being able to take it into an engineering exam at university is another area where a "real" calculator will beat a PDA
I have to wonder why you don't enlist the aid of your girlfriend in "dealing" with your libido. You are after all, one of the probably 10% of the/. crowd who are married or in possession of a girlfriend, and it pains me that you are not making use of this.
Work wont install firefox as it would be too much hassle compared to leaving IE on the boxes and not straining the collective intelligence of the workers.
That, and for work purposes there isn't a lot of call for needing to browse in a tabbed fashion for multiple "work related" items.
As far as I recall, it was white men who bombed oklahoma, and what gets noted very seldom any more is that it was the (white) Irish USians who funded the IRA in northern ireland to fight a terror campaign for decades.
The UK managed to deal with the IRA and didn't strip all manner of their citizen's rights away in doing so.
It's the whole Franklin quote again "those who would trade security for freedom deserve neither"
I genuinely have no view on the rights or wrongs of who rules Northern Ireland, but am glad that fewer big bombs are going off now than in the past over there.
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I'm 26, have got acid reflux that gives me no end of pain if i go off the meds for it, stress headaches most days, and tension in the shoulders massage barely manages to move.
I've been working for coming up five years, and know that I have another 40 or so to go before retirement, and frankly it scares me how my body is reacting to the corporate life. I'm meant to be in the prime of life, but i sure don't feel like it.
CAD wont be a great user of this, as in CAD, you tend to snap to the nearest point of interest anyway.
Our drafters use the vanilla flavored optical mice that came with the hp compaq boxen.
I too question the need for 20x the accuracy.
It is a straight forward event, and it baffles me that people would not choose the simplest explanation and would seek some "tin foil hat" explanation that has all manner of interlaced conspiracies.
For a building that has steel columns, once the columns get to about 600C (1100F), they lose all strength and would collapse.
I don't know a lot about WTC7, but the plaster board cladding systems that are typically used to protect steel columns would have been compromised just by the duration of the fire (working on typical ways that these systems are rated) burning all day. There would not need to be damage to the cladding by explosion.
You're right re collapses post earthquake. Water for fire fighting is usually compromised during an earthquake, and with the large number of building fires it isn't improbable that the fire department can't get to all fires before the building collapses.
Most high rise fires are extinguished either by sprinklers or fire fighting efforts and not left to burn themselves out.
Warehouses which are typically built with steel, collapse readily in fire, as they are usually easier to let burn down than to try to fight from inside.
From the stuff that I've heard regarding the WTC, it would have been the explosion from the initial impact that would have stripped away the insulation. Most fire cladding systems are only rated for a couple of hours. The thinking is that either sprinklers will kill the fire in the early stages so you don't get a big fire, or in a couple of hours you will have got everyone out and the fire service will have done their best.
Most fires burn in the region of 1800F (1000C). This is wood, or anything.
As far as I know, jets burn kerosene rather than diesel (would make an odd sound running a diesel jet engine)
9/11 was the sort of event that it is not practical to design for. Structurally it worked. The building stood up. The impact load from the plane (from a documentary i saw) was less than the deisgn level wind event, albeit focussed in one part of the building. There was no way to fire engineer that sort of event, short of a anti-aircraft missile site on the roof.
You just have to pray that you are all sorted with the almighty when that sort of thing happens
I'm a structural engineer and have designed enough in steel to be able to comment intelligently.
Steel becomes too weak to be relied upon for structural restrain under fire loading. The normal range of temperatures (hot days, cold days etc) will induce deflections that may cause changes in the stress distribution through the building but it will not affect the steel strength.
The normal way to deal with structural steel under fire loading is to encase it in something else that retards the heating of the steel, paint it in an intumescent paint that will swell up and provide a level of protection.
The main WTC would not have stood up with any fire protection system - the fire was so far larger than the design fires as to make it meaningless. I don't know about damage to, or the nature of the fire protection systems to the smaller WTC buildings.
We also had an email coming out this morning saying that SP2 isn't being rolled out immediately, as there was a belief that it would kill some existing programs.
I have no idea if this was tin-foil-hatting on the part of the IT section, or just waiting for the patch on SP2, but we were advised we coudln't connect to the network if SP2 was loaded on a box (I'm not sure why, but there you go).
Given that all the corporate boxes live behind corporate grade firewalls and stuff like that, I don't think that we're likely to be very vulnerable to attack in the month or so til the pack gets loaded up.
For the sake of those who thought to RTFA, the article gets you to email the author regarding the details of the exploit.
Extract from article:
You may contact the author for further details as to the method of entry. All computer owners and administrators should be aware of the potential for theft if you utilize this device. The full details of how to compromise this device are contained in LSS+ Version 5.0 Multimedia edition of Locks, Safes, and Security. Kensington may be contacted for further information at 800-535-4242. The company was notified of the problem by the author on July 13, 2004 and has refused to comment on or acknowledge the problem, or to return any telephone calls or e-mails. The author believes that the manufacturer can remedy the problem and should be required to do so. All purchasers of this device may wish to request a replacement from the manufacturer that prevents this form of bypass.
Phone calls are used for informal communication, but the ability to type allows you to focus your attention on the content of what you are conveying rather than having to "hunt and peck" and struggle with the mechanism of communicating rather than the content.
The half year course I had on typing early in high school was enough to give me the foundation that I could develop a full touch typing ability when the throughput of work required it.
I love paper manuals for computer programs, or nearly anything in preference to help files or electronic copies of manuals, and really resent it when a supplier sends us a program we pay $5k for to not include a paper copy of the PDF manual they dropped onto the cd.
It is a lot harder to put post-it flags to mark the bits you refer to often, pencil in margin notes to clarify bits you had to work through, or cross reference to other sources of help.
I never really bought into the whole lifetime warranty thing til my victorinox knife had a bit break in it years after I bought it. No receipt of purchase, no longer in the city i bought it.
I took it to a random store that sold their knives, they sent it off, and I got a brand new knife back a week or so later.
Made me happy enough anyway.
I live in Australia.
While not totally the lap dog of Bush, we're close.
It was more a "as bad as things might be over here, at least they're not as bad as you guys have it" than a snide anti-american sort of thing.
One upside of the USA = fair use copying of music. It's not allowed over here, but doesn't seem to be enforced at all.
I was amused, as my reasonably well thought out and level headed points managed to earn me my first foe in /. and a level of personal character assassination mostly centred on the fact that an engineer (stereotypically seen as more intelligent and rational members of society) could believe in God and creationism.
Could be worse.
Given the intense level of debate, and the amount of heat as opposed to light from both sides of the evolution debate that ensued from the story, are we allowed to mod the whole article ;-)
-1 flamebait?
Oh yes it does.
The article is premised on this being another evidence of evolution.
Evolution runs into trouble at the cellular level with the high level of complexity that has yet to be replicated from base chemicals by modern labs.
If, with the input of directed effort by an intelligent person, we can't generate what the cells that all life is built from, then the house of cards falls down.
well put.
karma be damned.
This is variation within a species, just as there is considerable variation within other species. So what if a monkey can walk?
PS I am a six day creation man, and have no problem at all believing in God making the whole shebang in under a week, and still retaining an IQ that could put me into mensa.
If it is possible to prosecute for the illegal use of a product which has a legal and legitimate use, then surely by extension it will only be a matter of time before someone (unless they already have) sues bullet makers for providing the means to kill people.
I know that guns don't kill people, it is people that kill people, but a VCR / CDR / generic recording device does have legitimate uses that don't violate copyright.
I am glad that I don't live in the states. If this is the model of democracy and things being done for the people rather than for the oligarchs (read the corporations the politicians seem to owe their souls to) then I would hate to see a country really in need of liberation.
As far as I can recall, vinyl was the only audio medium (in common use) that didn't get copied ad nauseum by the masses (on the same medium - am excluding ripping your 45 onto MP3 or CD).
Tape you could dub. I'm too young to recall 8 track but can't imagine it couldn't have been recorded in some fashion.
I can't see any music format coming out in the next N years that it wouldn't be possible to get a 99% good rip taking the analog output and putting that into the analog input of your sound card / minidisc deck / recording system of your choice. It isn't pure digital but for the unwashed masses and all those who didn't spend more on their stereo than their car it wont matter 99% of the time
HTF could you make CDR decks illegal on your PC?
Only in america!
Land of the free?
In some states in the USA
Threatening to commit a crime to extort payment is a crime.
Threatening to hurt someone is a crime.
Planning to commit a crime is considered a crime in some cases.
O come on. The technology has been around for (many) years for similar things to allow "out of print" cds to be produced for people interested in music beyond the top 40 pop charts, and I have yet to see it in stores.
If the music industry couldn't get their act together to allow on the spot pressing / burning of their back catalogue it's a pipe dream to hope for this in books.
I too had given up on HP beign a serious player in the calculator field any more (discontinuing the HP32SII - WTF was up with that. The thing is bulletproof, light on memory but an interface that was quick and useful) but my brother (also an engineer) bought a new one for work and tells me that it isn't as awful as I'd thought they had become.
I may not have to give up knowing RPN and get a TI when my precious dies a long time from now.
buttons with a tactile feel (people seriously complained about the change in button bounce feel on the new HP calculators a few years back). battery life measured in years. build quality that makes it the unstoppable thing in the portable electroincs world.
the sort of person who lives and dies with their HP calculator is the sort of person who uses their PC for spreadsheets, their calculator for the quick and minor calculations, and a hard core analysis package for the really serious work.
I own two HP calculators and will probably get another when the last of these ones die in 10+ years time, as my brother has one of the newer ones and told me that they are not as awful as I'd been led to believe they were.
Oh, and being able to take it into an engineering exam at university is another area where a "real" calculator will beat a PDA
I have to wonder why you don't enlist the aid of your girlfriend in "dealing" with your libido. You are after all, one of the probably 10% of the /. crowd who are married or in possession of a girlfriend, and it pains me that you are not making use of this.
Work wont install firefox as it would be too much hassle compared to leaving IE on the boxes and not straining the collective intelligence of the workers.
That, and for work purposes there isn't a lot of call for needing to browse in a tabbed fashion for multiple "work related" items.
There is a sanity clause - he's the guy who brings me presents and fills my stockings every christmas
As far as I recall, it was white men who bombed oklahoma, and what gets noted very seldom any more is that it was the (white) Irish USians who funded the IRA in northern ireland to fight a terror campaign for decades.
The UK managed to deal with the IRA and didn't strip all manner of their citizen's rights away in doing so.
It's the whole Franklin quote again "those who would trade security for freedom deserve neither"
I genuinely have no view on the rights or wrongs of who rules Northern Ireland, but am glad that fewer big bombs are going off now than in the past over there.