What sucks about this is that any idiot with a login can get mod points. Maybe this should change? Evidently it's used mostly by people who want to whine and cry and not take responsibility for their lack of anything useful to say.
Jeeze, I thought it was enough to lock kids in cold school rooms and drill them with terminology for 12 years straight. Who'da thought brainwashing would take to the heavens? I'm not surprised.
Any idea what this one will be telling people to think? What's the Indian take on what a person should believe?
Funny how that works, isn't it? Big company finds new way of making money by screwing kids. Since this is labeled 'safety', schools are bound to buy it.
Looks like the old "I regard my kids as filthy animals who don't see what I don't want them to see" bit has become a great cash cow for these businesses. They'd gladly do the mind-slavery stuff on people based on race and gender if they could, but since age remains a number by which you can legally determine a person to be human or mildew, they're still perfectly allowed to put kids in a closet where they can't see the outside world.
Were this the 15th century, they'd be providing chains and whips for this purpose. Meh, nothing changes.
Actually it's nothing more than the old 'enemy of the enemy' game. People hate Bush so they vote for Kerry, people hate Kerry so they vote for Bush. People bitch when the system once again screws them over, then they bitch about people who didn't bend over and vote like good little cash cows, and of course they whine about how much better things would be if the mindless psycho they voted for were in office, as opposed to the mindless psycho who's there right now.
Simple as pie. Add that to the old "everyone who disobeys me has a tinfoil hat" scarecrow and people will literally die for you.
That certainly wasn't a troll, but I said 'for the most part' for a pretty good reason, even though the word 'most' has no basis there. And yeah, a soldier could just open fire on anyone he wants and pass it off as a misjudgment, if his superiors seem like they wouldn't mind. There are a whole lot of places where the military's methods are basically genocide; the Bush administration is making it really hard for the Pentagon to destroy all the evidence of what's really going on in the war (showing that Nazi-adopted information control over mass manslaughter can only do so much).
But there are still a whole lot of soldiers who have the citizens' best interests in mind. Most of Iraq was already a major Hell-hole before we intruded anyway.
Gyahahaha. "Hey, let's vote a mindless nutcase into office because he's a movie star!"
Serves them right.
And if you want to find a chain of logic to this (or even less, to debunk it), don't bother. He's just another puppet serving as a bitch to large-business. You could spend a lifetime or two commenting on all the Nazi-ish bills politicians love to sign; in fact, go for it; watch what happens. The most they'll do is shrug and laugh.
"Aahh-nold finds these puuuny civil-ian opinions funny! Ha ha! Give me yor e-mail ahddress, filthy aahnt!....Ooooh crahp, da RIAA is coming over. Aahh-nold needs to put on anal luuube..."
That certainly is true, but the given scenario isn't all that farfetched. The military isn't the police; for the most part, they try to avoid killing innocent civilians, but with certain people in command, all it takes is a few words over the radio and the guy in the plane can blast an entire block based on suspicion, even if it's populated.
We see really big costs and tons of money going down the drain, but the only thing the guy in the cockpit needs to do is get an 'okay' and hit the button.
You know we're all doomed when the world's safety depends on diplomacy between psychotic rampaging Islamic fanatics and psychotic rampaging Christianity fanatics.
Of course it's not nuclear! Didn't you know that Hiroshima was actually a bonfire gone crazy?
I'd actually wait for reports on the web. The only difference between local big media and foreign big media is that the foreign ones are biased against the other countries.
Either way the US government has already denied that it was a nuclear bomb
Heh, that was quick. I can imagine the statement. "It was not a nuclear bomb! We care about human life! We do not invoke Nazi-style information control!....Uh, is it funny that I brought that up unprovoked?"
We'll probably get more insight later on with the web. Hopefully the websites reporting it won't mysteriously vanish.
Where does everyone get this silly idea that Paypal is the LEAST bit interested in morals? Oh yeah, when I have an opportunity to make millions of dollars in fines, the first thing on my mind is "I must cleanse society and save the world!"
Look, they're pulling what the FCC, the government and countless other companies have done time after time: Find something that a few psychos look down on and become a hero by cashing in on the 'punishment'. There's no way you can believe this is some sort of holy war.
People are looking for a simplicity in their fictional worlds where good and evil are clearly delineated
Which people?? I think Robert's thoughts themselves are way too linear to have any real meaning. No self-respecting author bases his stories on what he thinks 'everyone' wants. It doesn't work, and all it'll do is land him with a half-assed book and no solid premise. I'm afraid that going by the latest 'fad' is just something a few writers do for money; it's very obvious, turns people away, and even the people who read it will just forget about it in no-time.
What I like to read is a story that catches me off-guard; where it feels like the author is standing back and narrating at most. There's no fun in a good/evil story; I don't want the author telling me which characters to like and which ones not to like.
I wouldn't quite have rated this Flamebait, but it seems like when our population is vastly greater than that of Cuba, those numbers don't mean a whole lot.
And if they do, it'd have to be on account of the government's "obey your authority or suffer" method of info control which, of course, fails, meaning they have to increase school sentences and rigorously shove more kids into the system with more "Go to school or you'll kill people" commercials. Yep, go figure.
Or in this case it's something that's shoved up your ass, nose, and down your throat. I'd much rather find intelligence than look to the system for a fake shortcut.
Hmm, maybe I did read something wrong. But it seems like, if you're the one who's been a pawn to a conspiracy for thirty years, it hardly qualifies as any sort of theory.
Otherwise it means that lawyers are all conspiracy theorists because they watch themselves lie in court, advertisers are conspiracy theorists because they're knowingly told to bullshit, and that kid at the counter of Burger King is a conspiracy theorist because he knows what they put in their burgers but won't tell you.
I'd have to check out one of his books. It seems like the quote is just pointing out that the whole thing isn't as black-and-white as just 'a few people' controlling the system.
Also for the parents out there: I'm a pretty good testament to this.
My mom and dad shoved me into the school system where I, like most Americans, had my entire childhood stripped away to be replaced which a cold, sterile, airless room where 7.5 hours a day, I'm told what to think, when I can think it, when to move, how to move, when I can piss, drink and eat, and informed that I'm stupid if I don't set and obediently read papers till my eyes bleed, of course, to later regurgitate their hyponpaedia on another piece of paper. And when I wasn't doing that, I got to joyfully spend the time counting how many minutes were left in the period, periods in the day, days in the school year, and years left till my 12-year sentence, to look forward to the corporate job I was told over and over to look forward to. I could also, once or twice a day, prance out to recess where I can be threatened by all the bigger students and put on display as a nice little target. Did you ever see what happens when you put a bunch of bugs in a bottle, keep them there and occasionally shake it? They begin to kill each other. Do the same with kids and you get the same fascinating results. What could one do? Leave school? You can't leave school. School is good, school is your friend, school makes you smart because mindless obedience is intelligence, school heals the sick and makes wine out of water, if school tells you to bend over, you ask how far. If you don't obey the school system then you have a brain disorder and need to take drugs.
Most people accept it. They think "that's just the way it is, it's good, and mandatory, now obey" and I have to wonder if slaves think the same way.
So, on that note, I hope my dad enjoys the smell of piss.
"OMG who doesn't obey the system is a conspiracy theorist alien out to destroy us all!"
Seems like we've heard this argument before, like, on every post on Slashdot that doesn't have an ounce of credibility to stand on.
He was pointing out that it's not a conspiracy claim.
If you'd like to make the school system sound like something that doesn't make you dumber and more obedient, you can start by finding real inconsistencies and not digging as hard as possible for something that might possibly sound like an inconsistency if you think of it the right way. Also by spending 30 years as a teacher. Then you can talk.
Just doesn't seem too logical, y'know. The title could have said Globbal Fud Cartel Fast Bcoming hte World's Supermarkeet and that wouldn't have discounted the article and its references, even though I certainly wouldn't have read it.
Gyahaha. It's just like when the hippies all knew how often the government lied, and the other morons were like "No! Government never lies! Government feeds the needy and heals the injured! Government turned our water into wine!" Then the Watergate Scandal went up and they were like "OMG OMG nobody in the world saw it coming!!" and all the non-conformists just gave a big collective sigh. It'd be nice if that was it and these people had finally gotten it through their heads, but then the conformists were all like "It was isolated! Government will never do anything like that again!" But by that time they were too busy attending funerals of kids who were drafted and killed in Vietnam.
But now this is much different. Billions of dollars are being sent to Selective Services, their policies are becoming less discriminate (girls will probably be drafted given the opportunity; gotta give women equal rights, after all), the government has already proven that it can do whatever it wants and wouldn't hesitate much to drop you in the middle of a battlefield. The very fact that you're threatened with six months in jail to sign a paper wherein you volunteer to die for the government should have been the most obvious clue in the world. But I'm afraid there are some people who could be shot with an AK-47 by the President himself and still think the government is there to make you happy.
Why do these people still exist? It seems like natural selection should have taken care of them after they looked down the barrel of their shotguns to find the M&M that fell in.
Heh, well, people try with all their strength to believe everything that comes from the mouths of lying politicians. Moore essentially shoved it up these peoples' collective ass and now they're scrambling to make everything they see into a Big Grand Conspiracy of people who use all these damn facts and logic to make oppressive murderous tyrants look bad. The nerve of these people!
Well at least KKK members and a few Neo-Nazis know that just because nearly everything the government says is a lie, that doesn't mean they're lying.
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What sucks about this is that any idiot with a login can get mod points. Maybe this should change? Evidently it's used mostly by people who want to whine and cry and not take responsibility for their lack of anything useful to say.
We need more people to meta-moderate.
Jeeze, I thought it was enough to lock kids in cold school rooms and drill them with terminology for 12 years straight. Who'da thought brainwashing would take to the heavens? I'm not surprised.
Any idea what this one will be telling people to think? What's the Indian take on what a person should believe?
Funny how that works, isn't it? Big company finds new way of making money by screwing kids. Since this is labeled 'safety', schools are bound to buy it.
Looks like the old "I regard my kids as filthy animals who don't see what I don't want them to see" bit has become a great cash cow for these businesses. They'd gladly do the mind-slavery stuff on people based on race and gender if they could, but since age remains a number by which you can legally determine a person to be human or mildew, they're still perfectly allowed to put kids in a closet where they can't see the outside world.
Were this the 15th century, they'd be providing chains and whips for this purpose. Meh, nothing changes.
Just a note that this was taken off an old letter which was sent to the Dr. Laura radio show:
http://www.zareste.com/laura.html
Also that these apply to Jews and not so much Christians, so you don't have to continue screaming like scared little school girls.
Actually it's nothing more than the old 'enemy of the enemy' game. People hate Bush so they vote for Kerry, people hate Kerry so they vote for Bush. People bitch when the system once again screws them over, then they bitch about people who didn't bend over and vote like good little cash cows, and of course they whine about how much better things would be if the mindless psycho they voted for were in office, as opposed to the mindless psycho who's there right now.
Simple as pie. Add that to the old "everyone who disobeys me has a tinfoil hat" scarecrow and people will literally die for you.
That certainly wasn't a troll, but I said 'for the most part' for a pretty good reason, even though the word 'most' has no basis there. And yeah, a soldier could just open fire on anyone he wants and pass it off as a misjudgment, if his superiors seem like they wouldn't mind. There are a whole lot of places where the military's methods are basically genocide; the Bush administration is making it really hard for the Pentagon to destroy all the evidence of what's really going on in the war (showing that Nazi-adopted information control over mass manslaughter can only do so much).
But there are still a whole lot of soldiers who have the citizens' best interests in mind. Most of Iraq was already a major Hell-hole before we intruded anyway.
Even 'Panasonic' would have been a better guess than that.
Gyahahaha. "Hey, let's vote a mindless nutcase into office because he's a movie star!"
....Ooooh crahp, da RIAA is coming over. Aahh-nold needs to put on anal luuube..."
Serves them right.
And if you want to find a chain of logic to this (or even less, to debunk it), don't bother. He's just another puppet serving as a bitch to large-business. You could spend a lifetime or two commenting on all the Nazi-ish bills politicians love to sign; in fact, go for it; watch what happens. The most they'll do is shrug and laugh.
"Aahh-nold finds these puuuny civil-ian opinions funny! Ha ha! Give me yor e-mail ahddress, filthy aahnt!
"Google is not better than us,"
Oh ho yeah, Ask Jeeves is better, except for, y'know, the whole 'you can't find jack shit using it' thing.
*Throws his retarded PS2 with the broken CD reader into the lowest depths of the trash where it belongs, then goes and waits in front of Toys R Us*
Back to using a game system made by people who know how to make game systems.
That certainly is true, but the given scenario isn't all that farfetched. The military isn't the police; for the most part, they try to avoid killing innocent civilians, but with certain people in command, all it takes is a few words over the radio and the guy in the plane can blast an entire block based on suspicion, even if it's populated.
We see really big costs and tons of money going down the drain, but the only thing the guy in the cockpit needs to do is get an 'okay' and hit the button.
You know we're all doomed when the world's safety depends on diplomacy between psychotic rampaging Islamic fanatics and psychotic rampaging Christianity fanatics.
(not a slur on religion, get over it)
Of course it's not nuclear! Didn't you know that Hiroshima was actually a bonfire gone crazy?
I'd actually wait for reports on the web. The only difference between local big media and foreign big media is that the foreign ones are biased against the other countries.
Either way the US government has already denied that it was a nuclear bomb
....Uh, is it funny that I brought that up unprovoked?"
Heh, that was quick. I can imagine the statement. "It was not a nuclear bomb! We care about human life! We do not invoke Nazi-style information control!
We'll probably get more insight later on with the web. Hopefully the websites reporting it won't mysteriously vanish.
Where does everyone get this silly idea that Paypal is the LEAST bit interested in morals? Oh yeah, when I have an opportunity to make millions of dollars in fines, the first thing on my mind is "I must cleanse society and save the world!"
Look, they're pulling what the FCC, the government and countless other companies have done time after time: Find something that a few psychos look down on and become a hero by cashing in on the 'punishment'. There's no way you can believe this is some sort of holy war.
It's true. Cause I mean -
People are looking for a simplicity in their fictional worlds where good and evil are clearly delineated
Which people?? I think Robert's thoughts themselves are way too linear to have any real meaning. No self-respecting author bases his stories on what he thinks 'everyone' wants. It doesn't work, and all it'll do is land him with a half-assed book and no solid premise. I'm afraid that going by the latest 'fad' is just something a few writers do for money; it's very obvious, turns people away, and even the people who read it will just forget about it in no-time.
What I like to read is a story that catches me off-guard; where it feels like the author is standing back and narrating at most. There's no fun in a good/evil story; I don't want the author telling me which characters to like and which ones not to like.
I wouldn't quite have rated this Flamebait, but it seems like when our population is vastly greater than that of Cuba, those numbers don't mean a whole lot.
And if they do, it'd have to be on account of the government's "obey your authority or suffer" method of info control which, of course, fails, meaning they have to increase school sentences and rigorously shove more kids into the system with more "Go to school or you'll kill people" commercials. Yep, go figure.
Or in this case it's something that's shoved up your ass, nose, and down your throat. I'd much rather find intelligence than look to the system for a fake shortcut.
Hmm, maybe I did read something wrong. But it seems like, if you're the one who's been a pawn to a conspiracy for thirty years, it hardly qualifies as any sort of theory.
Otherwise it means that lawyers are all conspiracy theorists because they watch themselves lie in court, advertisers are conspiracy theorists because they're knowingly told to bullshit, and that kid at the counter of Burger King is a conspiracy theorist because he knows what they put in their burgers but won't tell you.
I'd have to check out one of his books. It seems like the quote is just pointing out that the whole thing isn't as black-and-white as just 'a few people' controlling the system.
Also for the parents out there: I'm a pretty good testament to this.
My mom and dad shoved me into the school system where I, like most Americans, had my entire childhood stripped away to be replaced which a cold, sterile, airless room where 7.5 hours a day, I'm told what to think, when I can think it, when to move, how to move, when I can piss, drink and eat, and informed that I'm stupid if I don't set and obediently read papers till my eyes bleed, of course, to later regurgitate their hyponpaedia on another piece of paper. And when I wasn't doing that, I got to joyfully spend the time counting how many minutes were left in the period, periods in the day, days in the school year, and years left till my 12-year sentence, to look forward to the corporate job I was told over and over to look forward to. I could also, once or twice a day, prance out to recess where I can be threatened by all the bigger students and put on display as a nice little target. Did you ever see what happens when you put a bunch of bugs in a bottle, keep them there and occasionally shake it? They begin to kill each other. Do the same with kids and you get the same fascinating results. What could one do? Leave school? You can't leave school. School is good, school is your friend, school makes you smart because mindless obedience is intelligence, school heals the sick and makes wine out of water, if school tells you to bend over, you ask how far. If you don't obey the school system then you have a brain disorder and need to take drugs.
Most people accept it. They think "that's just the way it is, it's good, and mandatory, now obey" and I have to wonder if slaves think the same way.
So, on that note, I hope my dad enjoys the smell of piss.
"OMG who doesn't obey the system is a conspiracy theorist alien out to destroy us all!"
Seems like we've heard this argument before, like, on every post on Slashdot that doesn't have an ounce of credibility to stand on.
He was pointing out that it's not a conspiracy claim.
If you'd like to make the school system sound like something that doesn't make you dumber and more obedient, you can start by finding real inconsistencies and not digging as hard as possible for something that might possibly sound like an inconsistency if you think of it the right way. Also by spending 30 years as a teacher. Then you can talk.
Just doesn't seem too logical, y'know. The title could have said Globbal Fud Cartel Fast Bcoming hte World's Supermarkeet and that wouldn't have discounted the article and its references, even though I certainly wouldn't have read it.
Gyahaha. It's just like when the hippies all knew how often the government lied, and the other morons were like "No! Government never lies! Government feeds the needy and heals the injured! Government turned our water into wine!" Then the Watergate Scandal went up and they were like "OMG OMG nobody in the world saw it coming!!" and all the non-conformists just gave a big collective sigh. It'd be nice if that was it and these people had finally gotten it through their heads, but then the conformists were all like "It was isolated! Government will never do anything like that again!" But by that time they were too busy attending funerals of kids who were drafted and killed in Vietnam.
But now this is much different. Billions of dollars are being sent to Selective Services, their policies are becoming less discriminate (girls will probably be drafted given the opportunity; gotta give women equal rights, after all), the government has already proven that it can do whatever it wants and wouldn't hesitate much to drop you in the middle of a battlefield. The very fact that you're threatened with six months in jail to sign a paper wherein you volunteer to die for the government should have been the most obvious clue in the world. But I'm afraid there are some people who could be shot with an AK-47 by the President himself and still think the government is there to make you happy.
Why do these people still exist? It seems like natural selection should have taken care of them after they looked down the barrel of their shotguns to find the M&M that fell in.
Heh, well, people try with all their strength to believe everything that comes from the mouths of lying politicians. Moore essentially shoved it up these peoples' collective ass and now they're scrambling to make everything they see into a Big Grand Conspiracy of people who use all these damn facts and logic to make oppressive murderous tyrants look bad. The nerve of these people!
Well at least KKK members and a few Neo-Nazis know that just because nearly everything the government says is a lie, that doesn't mean they're lying.