So why should the poker business not exist? The players that got scammed in this instance were not only the net-losers, but the net-winners, people who do not "throw their money away", as you so summarily dismissed the situation.
> MS publishes every flaw they find. Literally hundreds of thousands, same as Open Source projects.
That's a misdirection of the argument, because the holes that Microsoft finds are not the ones they're talking about. And even if they find a bug or are informed of a bug, a public release of the information is usually required to get them off their asses to fix it.
Personal example: I found a scripting bug in Hotmail and other sites. I contacted Microsoft then released it to Bugtraq. MS didn't act on it until it hit bugtraq's list, then they shut the hole that I had shown the bug from. A week later, I checked Hotmail again, and 8 other pages were vulnerable to the very same attack I had shown on one particular page.
Lesson: Security is (at most) priority three to MS, after (1) profit and (2) market share.
patently false.. the single biggest thing MS has going for them (as far as IE, Media Player, and *gasp* IIS) is product ignorance. Yeah, people may find out about Winamp, but the people who start from scratch and use non-MS-included programs are in the vast minority.
Why? One, because MS programs work sufficiently well for the average user to work with. The other reason is because users, especially new ones, don't know of any other alternatives out there. They aren't familiar with google, never heard of download.com, etc.
Don't kid yourself by saying that early versions of IE were the catalyst for winning the browser war. MS won the browser war primarily because they gained market share over Netscape from the attitude that said "well, this is already installed, so who cares." (IE's DOM superiority came much later) (Netscape's cost was an issue for businesses, but regular users could always find a free copy).
"If people aren't happy with what they're given, they'll go after something better." Ahh, but when you're entire exposure is with MS products, the MS GUI, the MS mentality, you may be happy with the product because you don't know the alternatives that don't have the luxury of being preloaded.
My DSL line went down.. I called my provider, who called Covad. Covad called Verizon. 15 days 8 technician visits later, Verizon finally fixed my line.
The problem: They had installed a bridge tap, which gave someone else phone service on my dsl line. Bridge taps are illegal, btw.
I tried to remain sane about the entire thing, but when a tech comes out every other day for two weeks to fix a one-touch problem, that's beyond any ineptitude I thought could exist.
exactly.. Microsoft is claiming sanctuary by providing everyone with a way out of "smart tags", but they set themselves up as the default setting, a huge gain. When people are forced to go to some trouble to disable a feature, inertia will keep at least some of those people from doing it.
After a while, web site visitors might complain if a site has smart tags disabled. You can see the rock/hard place argument that could turn a feature into a forced neccessity.
That's an acceptable argument, but I don't think that mSQL has an analogy like that in the DB market. In fact, I don't think that they'll be competing really at all.
mSQL is for people who want really simple, really fast DB access. Not even mySQL can compete on that level (they've sacrificied some speed for features). So, if a person is informed on the advantages of the DB's, there shouldn't be too much hankering over whether their project is in need of mSQL or not.
(This comment is late, so you may not even read it, but...)
You can't be serious. Your blanket statements concerning your stance on WebQL either means you worked on the project or you're really really protected from Regular Expressions.
WebQL is nothing more than a regexp wrapper. How do I know this? I've been working to implement the WebQL language in PHP this week. Here. It took me three days to replicate about half of the language. I would have assumed that this "amazing" product was a bit tougher to implement.
Saying that WebQL is the "end all data mining tool" is a serious short-sight on your part. The WebQL language is limited, hacked together, and totally reliant on the data being in HTML format. If you are serious about not "falling behind", you'd embrace a more abstract tool, one that dealt with meta data. But of course, I forgot; you're a troll.
but even if they know what files are encrypted, with 1024/2048 bit, it doesn't matter either way; they're not getting at that data. Sure, there are caching and disk access issues with encrypting single files, but those notwithstanding, locking one file behind your wall should be as secure as locking the entire drive behind it _________
Wow, I'm sure that's exactly what future Corel employees are looking forward to.
"Congratulations on being hired at Corel. Your first project will be to work for Microsoft, the exact technology you were trying to get away from!" _________
Exactly... I don't answer landline phone during the day just because 50% of the time it's some company wanting to sign me up for some new and exciting product.
The sad part about the email address thing is that if you use web mail services, spam can track you without you even submitting your email address. They can try random email addresses at hotmail, for example, and using web bugs, see who opened the email.
As far as Motorola goes, they could do worse. Simply collecting data that their end-stores already had seems almost an implicit business practice, if it wasn't in their terms already..
I'm assuming that they could easily (1) filter out the crap data from certain dealers and (2) excommunicate those rebellious dealers pretty quickly.
There dealers' hands are tied. All you as a customer can do is provide the dealer with fake data. (You did list the local time and temperature as your telephone number, right?)
____________
When the atomic bomb was created and tested for the first time, they weren't sure if it would set off an uncontrollable atmospheric chain-reaction. Is that scientific innovation really necessary, if it risks humanity?
You have to draw the line somewhere, between the ideas that have some value for the human race and those that have the potential to overrun the human race. Between ideas that destroy for a scientific purpose and those ideas that destroy for the purpose of destruction. I think, in this example, that killing hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians crosses that border.
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You seem to draw the line of security very low. The point is not that I've gained anything, but rather that I've caused both you and your CC company a great deal of headache. I may not steal your CC#, but if I max out your credit card, is it insecure?
Besides, half of my exploit is about the fact that it isn't limited to Amazon. It's just a matter of time before someone uses this type of attack in a more high profile manner.
Well, I don't know what haiku you're writing, but where I'm from (admittedly, it's in the deep-seeded traditionalistic Haiku Belt in the deep South) a haiku is 5-7-5...
So many pr0n sites,
He's forgotten how to write.
must be IE's fault.
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Give them to schools? Man, that's just mean. Imagine the little kids trying to load windows on your machine.. It would take the entire 50 minute period... Of course, it would have the side effect of teaching the kids to be humble about their processor speed, and to not complain when their PII 450 mhz is too slow...
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At no time since the last server switchover has a page taken 92 seconds, or even a minute, to load for me. In fact, most of the time the response is instantaneous. Even those 400 comment pages that are 1/2 a meg load pretty quickly. Sure, I have a T1 at work here, but the problem is probably en route to Slashdot, not slashdot itself..
As a side note, my company is on the Exodus network, so I probably have fewer hops to slashdot than most...
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One could interpret the growing popularity of DefCon and other cons as not beneficial but a dilution of the serious hacking community. More people come to the cons now, and so they are catering to the lowest common denominator..
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WAP, IMHO and others, sucks as a protocol. It's been really slow getting introduced and accepted into the market, and the protocol is rather unintuitive. I've made some interfaces for WAP and there are differences between cell phones, the emulator from phone.com.. not a real stable choice yet.
Besides, who's getting WAP right now? These 4 line cell phones.. The readability and interactivity on those phones is crap. Maybe when some serious functionality gets out there, WAP (or whatever succeedes it) will be useful to write for on a large-scale basis.
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Yes they will, and they already do. I've seen to many instances, including in the company I work for, where because atleast 80% of the developers use IE, they never test nor code for Netscape compatibility.
The problem with this situation is that everyone has IE on their computer, so MS knows that there won't be any massive uprising from end-users as long as IE is integrated into Windows..
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Yeah, I'd say that I'm pretty happy with the VC++ programming environment. Everything else they make pales to that.
One thing confused me.. They said that C# was not only platform independent but "language" dependent. That seems awful hard since you'll be writing c# applications in none other than c#
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As uninformed as I am about BeOS, I thought the whole idea was that it was designed to be fast with audio and video media. If so, then these benchmarks should be of no surprise.
I'd be more impressed if it was at least comparablly fast in other OS benchmark tests (file access, mem. management)
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Slashdot Mirror
So why should the poker business not exist? The players that got scammed in this instance were not only the net-losers, but the net-winners, people who do not "throw their money away", as you so summarily dismissed the situation.
I don't know how it is in other states, but here in Massachusetts, everything is political granstanding -- all the time.
I must agree with the other reply to this post:
> MS publishes every flaw they find. Literally hundreds of thousands, same as Open Source projects.
That's a misdirection of the argument, because the holes that Microsoft finds are not the ones they're talking about. And even if they find a bug or are informed of a bug, a public release of the information is usually required to get them off their asses to fix it.
Personal example: I found a scripting bug in Hotmail and other sites. I contacted Microsoft then released it to Bugtraq. MS didn't act on it until it hit bugtraq's list, then they shut the hole that I had shown the bug from. A week later, I checked Hotmail again, and 8 other pages were vulnerable to the very same attack I had shown on one particular page.
Lesson: Security is (at most) priority three to MS, after (1) profit and (2) market share.
patently false.. the single biggest thing MS has going for them (as far as IE, Media Player, and *gasp* IIS) is product ignorance. Yeah, people may find out about Winamp, but the people who start from scratch and use non-MS-included programs are in the vast minority.
Why? One, because MS programs work sufficiently well for the average user to work with. The other reason is because users, especially new ones, don't know of any other alternatives out there. They aren't familiar with google, never heard of download.com, etc.
Don't kid yourself by saying that early versions of IE were the catalyst for winning the browser war. MS won the browser war primarily because they gained market share over Netscape from the attitude that said "well, this is already installed, so who cares." (IE's DOM superiority came much later) (Netscape's cost was an issue for businesses, but regular users could always find a free copy).
"If people aren't happy with what they're given, they'll go after something better." Ahh, but when you're entire exposure is with MS products, the MS GUI, the MS mentality, you may be happy with the product because you don't know the alternatives that don't have the luxury of being preloaded.
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My DSL line went down.. I called my provider, who called Covad. Covad called Verizon. 15 days 8 technician visits later, Verizon finally fixed my line.
The problem: They had installed a bridge tap, which gave someone else phone service on my dsl line. Bridge taps are illegal, btw.
I tried to remain sane about the entire thing, but when a tech comes out every other day for two weeks to fix a one-touch problem, that's beyond any ineptitude I thought could exist.
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exactly.. Microsoft is claiming sanctuary by providing everyone with a way out of "smart tags", but they set themselves up as the default setting, a huge gain. When people are forced to go to some trouble to disable a feature, inertia will keep at least some of those people from doing it.
After a while, web site visitors might complain if a site has smart tags disabled. You can see the rock/hard place argument that could turn a feature into a forced neccessity.
-mparcens
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That's an acceptable argument, but I don't think that mSQL has an analogy like that in the DB market. In fact, I don't think that they'll be competing really at all.
mSQL is for people who want really simple, really fast DB access. Not even mySQL can compete on that level (they've sacrificied some speed for features). So, if a person is informed on the advantages of the DB's, there shouldn't be too much hankering over whether their project is in need of mSQL or not.
(This comment is late, so you may not even read it, but...)
You can't be serious. Your blanket statements concerning your stance on WebQL either means you worked on the project or you're really really protected from Regular Expressions.
WebQL is nothing more than a regexp wrapper. How do I know this? I've been working to implement the WebQL language in PHP this week. Here. It took me three days to replicate about half of the language. I would have assumed that this "amazing" product was a bit tougher to implement.
Saying that WebQL is the "end all data mining tool" is a serious short-sight on your part. The WebQL language is limited, hacked together, and totally reliant on the data being in HTML format. If you are serious about not "falling behind", you'd embrace a more abstract tool, one that dealt with meta data. But of course, I forgot; you're a troll.
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but even if they know what files are encrypted, with 1024/2048 bit, it doesn't matter either way; they're not getting at that data. Sure, there are caching and disk access issues with encrypting single files, but those notwithstanding, locking one file behind your wall should be as secure as locking the entire drive behind it
_________
Wow, I'm sure that's exactly what future Corel employees are looking forward to.
"Congratulations on being hired at Corel. Your first project will be to work for Microsoft, the exact technology you were trying to get away from!"
_________
Exactly... I don't answer landline phone during the day just because 50% of the time it's some company wanting to sign me up for some new and exciting product.
The sad part about the email address thing is that if you use web mail services, spam can track you without you even submitting your email address. They can try random email addresses at hotmail, for example, and using web bugs, see who opened the email.
As far as Motorola goes, they could do worse. Simply collecting data that their end-stores already had seems almost an implicit business practice, if it wasn't in their terms already..
__________
I'm assuming that they could easily (1) filter out the crap data from certain dealers and (2) excommunicate those rebellious dealers pretty quickly.
There dealers' hands are tied. All you as a customer can do is provide the dealer with fake data. (You did list the local time and temperature as your telephone number, right?)
____________
When the atomic bomb was created and tested for the first time, they weren't sure if it would set off an uncontrollable atmospheric chain-reaction. Is that scientific innovation really necessary, if it risks humanity?
You have to draw the line somewhere, between the ideas that have some value for the human race and those that have the potential to overrun the human race. Between ideas that destroy for a scientific purpose and those ideas that destroy for the purpose of destruction. I think, in this example, that killing hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians crosses that border.
_________
You seem to draw the line of security very low. The point is not that I've gained anything, but rather that I've caused both you and your CC company a great deal of headache. I may not steal your CC#, but if I max out your credit card, is it insecure?
Besides, half of my exploit is about the fact that it isn't limited to Amazon. It's just a matter of time before someone uses this type of attack in a more high profile manner.
Here is one such example
After that NSA-key scandal a couple months back, I think none of us are surprised...
Well, I don't know what haiku you're writing, but where I'm from (admittedly, it's in the deep-seeded traditionalistic Haiku Belt in the deep South) a haiku is 5-7-5...
So many pr0n sites,
He's forgotten how to write.
must be IE's fault.
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Give them to schools? Man, that's just mean.
Imagine the little kids trying to load windows on your machine.. It would take the entire 50 minute period... Of course, it would have the side effect of teaching the kids to be humble about their processor speed, and to not complain when their PII 450 mhz is too slow...
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At no time since the last server switchover has a page taken 92 seconds, or even a minute, to load for me. In fact, most of the time the response is instantaneous. Even those 400 comment pages that are 1/2 a meg load pretty quickly. Sure, I have a T1 at work here, but the problem is probably en route to Slashdot, not slashdot itself..
As a side note, my company is on the Exodus network, so I probably have fewer hops to slashdot than most...
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Absolutely...
One could interpret the growing popularity of DefCon and other cons as not beneficial but a dilution of the serious hacking community. More people come to the cons now, and so they are catering to the lowest common denominator..
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WAP, IMHO and others, sucks as a protocol. It's been really slow getting introduced and accepted into the market, and the protocol is rather unintuitive. I've made some interfaces for WAP and there are differences between cell phones, the emulator from phone.com.. not a real stable choice yet.
Besides, who's getting WAP right now? These 4 line cell phones.. The readability and interactivity on those phones is crap. Maybe when some serious functionality gets out there, WAP (or whatever succeedes it) will be useful to write for on a large-scale basis.
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Yes they will, and they already do. I've seen to many instances, including in the company I work for, where because atleast 80% of the developers use IE, they never test nor code for Netscape compatibility.
The problem with this situation is that everyone has IE on their computer, so MS knows that there won't be any massive uprising from end-users as long as IE is integrated into Windows..
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It turned out that it was just COBOL, with some code removed. The mainframers loved it, but it didn't fly too well with anyone else..
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Yeah, I'd say that I'm pretty happy with the VC++ programming environment. Everything else they make pales to that.
One thing confused me.. They said that C# was not only platform independent but "language" dependent. That seems awful hard since you'll be writing c# applications in none other than c#
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As uninformed as I am about BeOS, I thought the whole idea was that it was designed to be fast with audio and video media. If so, then these benchmarks should be of no surprise.
I'd be more impressed if it was at least comparablly fast in other OS benchmark tests (file access, mem. management)
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