are you telling me that just because AOL/TW is a big (big big big) company, their resources should be public property? when you invest billions of dollars buying a company that has spent billions of dollars developing an infrastructure, that infrastructure BELONGS TO YOU and if you want to charge people to use it, you're fully entitled to do so.
it would be mean and unfriendly from some points-of-view for AOL/TW to not allow companies to even pay for the infrastructure, but I think that the best you can hope for is that other ISP's are allowed to buy bandwidth on the infrastructure, unless of course youre some kind of "FREE EVERYTHING" hippy.
you know, I would really like to have a little device such as this beast, but more important than low price or color screens or hard drive space is that my portable computer must be internet-enabled. I need to bea ble to reach the portable machine from the internet and I need to be able to reach the internet from the portable machine. is anyone out there doing this? does anyone have a plam with a minstrel, or a libretto with CDCP pcmcia hardware? how do you like it? are you able to run services on the mobile machine and connect to them from the rest of the internet?
this might be a bit off topic, but if anyone is doing this sort of thing, gimme a heads up.
(and yes, I've read homepages of several libretto+cdcp people; I know itspossible and it's being done, I just want to know if peopel are happy with it and hear some more experiences.)
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JUST a NeXT with real pretty graphics? dont you mean "WOW!?!?!!! this is a Next WITH REAL PRETTY GRAPHICS!?!$!!!!$ and an insanely fast chip! and prospects for future refinements and developments!"
nexts rule. if I could get a 500 MhZ next, I would, and that's why I'm considering a g4 now.
I wonder how long before we run out of oili to a degree severe enough that the oil industries are forced to invest in more research like this just to stay afloat.
if I put myself into a situation where it is likely that I will get shot and I'm not wearing a bulletproof vest, I would be at least partially responsible for any injuries I sustained.
if you go driving around with no seatbelt and I slam into your car and you die, don't you think you're somewhat at fault?
artificial dichotomy? what's more artificial - schools strongly pushing computer curricula on girls who, for whatever reason, aren't interested, or having a technology world staffed mostly by males?
and why can't we allow it to continue? last time I checked, the vast majority of nurses and secretaries were females, and noone seems to be making a push to "rectify" this "travesty".
people of different sexes are not the same, and they might just statistically perfer different types of things. no need to huff and puff about artificial dichotomies and sexism - if you have a problem with the way women are treated in the industry, just make a personal effort to treat them better.
it's only sad to the people who don't take advantage of situations where it's easy to get away with something. why should your "morality" dictate the choices I make? if you leave yourself wide open to being taken advantage of, you deserve what you get.
well, that's a pretty retarded way of looking at the demise of "wonderful" shareware. did you ever think that if a concept can't stand up to the fact that there are HUGE numbers of people in the world that have absolutely no problem with acting "dishonestly" if it's goign to benefit them (and, at the same time, not goign to involve taking a large risk), then the concept is weak and doomed to die?
what makes shareware so wonderful? that it _assumes_ everyone is honest? that's a tragic flaw in the concept, not a strength. same goes for free-PC's-if-you-watch-our-advertizing. terrible, terrible idea to base your business on the assumption that everyone in the world is making decisions based on the moral values that you employ.
why in the world would you limit yourself to only acts that would be considered "moral"? you're cutting yourself off from a vast percentage of possible options.
nothing wrong with porkaritos for those times when you just gotta have a little pork fat, tho. and since youre full of flavorice, you wont gorge yourself often.
I really don't give a fuck what the average/. reader thinks about an article. And since I can READ, I don't have to randomly click on articles; I can just click on the ones that interest me. Theres no reason for articles to be moderated, since you can scan all the articles extremely quickly (assuming you can read; perhaps you can't) and decide which you want to look at.
if you're really looking at this from the hacker perspective, you view eating from a utilitarian and pleasure-oriented point of view. first, you need to eat, and second, you can have very happy sensations when you eat certain foods. the utilitarian bit is what makes you want to eat one thing that contains all your vitamins and minerals and whatnot so that you can stay alive as efficiently as possible. the pleasure-oriented part is what make you eat doritoes and coke and unhealthy stuff that tastes yummy.
what I propose is the following - get as many vitamins and minerals as possible through the use of dietary supplements. quite simple - you can eat a handful of pills and never work about scurvy or any other wierd deficiency no matter what other shit you eat.
then you eat a lot of something that fills you up but isnt loaded with fat. I prefer Fla*Vor*Ice, sometimes I switch to bleached white Wonder bread (mmmmmmmm); you might like cheez-its or doritoes or any number of things. IMPORTANT - do not pick something like "pork rinds" or "lard" for this unless you want to turn into a disgusting blob. eat this food all day, every day.
then, every time you feel like eating something else specifically, go get some. i.e., if suddently you want a pastrami sandwich, or some steak, or some carrots, or some tofu, get it. your general sense of fullness will prevent you from pigging out on these sporadic demand-items, but you won't die of protein deficiency or anything of the sort, because when your body needs something, it will tell you.
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Yeah, I agree. As long as the FSF continues to spout rhetoric about how ALL SOFTWARE SHOULD BE FREE and ANYONE WHO WANTS YOU TO PAY FOR SOFTWARE IS TRYIGN TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS, I'm going to conspicuously never donate anythign their way.
If you want to write some free software, that's cool. If you want to have a license that requires all your work to stay free, that's clever. But if you bitch and piss and moan for decade after decade about how evil people that write and sell and make a profit off commercial, pay software, don't be surprised when those people don't turn their hard earned money over to you.
You'd think that RMS would realize by this point that the people that he's tryign to get to support his cause are the people who are basin gtheir lives on doing what he's crusading about. That contradiction alone is enough to make me doubt his sanity.
Someone care to explain exactly why we're posting completely devoid-of-technological-content movie reviews on slashdot now? Aren't we supposed to be up in arms about what the MPAA is tryign to do with this money they get every time we go to a movie? I mean aside from the fact that noone gives two shits about what movie dicaprio is in now, the whole concept of evaluating stuff made by peopel you're boycotting is a little ridiculous.
good job, Katz - nice to see you stand up for the principles of the community. or did you even buy a ticket - this review sounds like you saw the commercial trailer, but I'm not sure you saw the actual movie.
Katz is bad enough when he has a reason to open his mouth and spew forth the crap he calls articles. gratuitous movie reviews of completely 0-technology-related cinema (and I use the term VERY loosely) are 100% unneccessary in this forum.
got tony hawk? create a new game and save it. kill power and load saved game. when selecting skater equipment, look at your wheels. do you see wheels? if you do, hit up once. you should now see no wheels. select this equipment, b00m crash.
I own 2 psx games and I dont make a habit of looking for bugs, but I would imagine there are a lot more than this one.
a. using really old code is a way to get owned quicker. slack 3.0 probably has some ancient version of sendmail which is guaranteed rootable remotely, among other holes. your best bet is to get new everything, and keep updated regarding patches. but thats just the problem - bugs exist BEFORE patches, and eventually, someone will find a bug in somethign that youre runnign with privs, and then U R 0wn3d as they say. how long has sendmail been around? longer than slackware, and you can bet there are probably a few holes in it still that noone has been clever enough to find (or nice enough to distribute).
b. your access restriction would be a great idea, as long as you can guarantee with absolute certainty that the programs you use to authenticate "legitimate users" are 100% bug free. if they aren't, theres a possibility of getting rooted, and once that happens, all these clever logs and tripwires of yours do you exactly 0 good. how do you think people running sshd with RSAREF felt when this "secure" shell daemon turned out to be remotely exploitable?
dont trust the internet to connect to a computer that you dont want rooted. it's a losing bet in the long run.
We're entirely unworried about someone breakign into your machines and trojannign the code you're distributing. thats what md5 checksums are for, and that's why everyone uses them.
What we're concerned with is the fact that you want us to run precompiled code. We don't know what this code does, because you won't release the source to it. We don't trust your assurances that it does what you advertise, and we're not about to potentially compromise our machines by installing government software on them.
What are you hiding? Surely you know that if someone really wants to get around your scanner, they'll take the time to disassemble it and figure out how they're being scanned. The average person responsible for doing actual work, however, doesnt have that type of time at his disposal; Joe Sysadmin is going to laugh at your attempts to get him to run untrusted software.
The more services that you make available to everyone on the internet, the more likely you are to be compromised due to some bug in some software that you're running that noone knows about today, but that someone's goign to find out about and exploit tomorrow.
You can't say that anyone with any administrative ability can put up all sorts of stuff and not get rooted. that's simply not true. you would have to be very very lucky to run a machine with that kind of availability and that much code accessible to the general public and not eventually get broken into.
you can? you think if I broke into your machine and initiated a DoS attack, I wouldn't take the time to remove myself from your logs?
in 1992 my machine at NYU was broken into and used as a stepping stone to break into some machines in Germany. *I* was the one who had to deal with the university coming down and unplugging my stuff and trying to kick me out of housing, and I'm the one with my name in some FBI file somewhere; in my situation, it was quite clear from the logs on my machine that it was being used by someone else to attack systems.
I assure you that you don't want to deal with a situation like this, and if you're young and stupid (or perhaps just stupid) and you don't secure your machines at least enough so that Joe Skriptkiddie can't immediately root you up, you run a very considerable risk of gettign owned and used like I was.
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sorry for callign you a hippy then. :D
so what in the hell is wrong with that?
are you telling me that just because AOL/TW is a big (big big big) company, their resources should be public property? when you invest billions of dollars buying a company that has spent billions of dollars developing an infrastructure, that infrastructure BELONGS TO YOU and if you want to charge people to use it, you're fully entitled to do so.
it would be mean and unfriendly from some points-of-view for AOL/TW to not allow companies to even pay for the infrastructure, but I think that the best you can hope for is that other ISP's are allowed to buy bandwidth on the infrastructure, unless of course youre some kind of "FREE EVERYTHING" hippy.
so newspapers are dead, but there's something about reading a catalog that can never be replaced?
do you pick your ideas out of a hat, or are you using a ouija board?
you know, I would really like to have a little device such as this beast, but more important than low price or color screens or hard drive space is that my portable computer must be internet-enabled. I need to bea ble to reach the portable machine from the internet and I need to be able to reach the internet from the portable machine. is anyone out there doing this? does anyone have a plam with a minstrel, or a libretto with CDCP pcmcia hardware? how do you like it? are you able to run services on the mobile machine and connect to them from the rest of the internet?
this might be a bit off topic, but if anyone is doing this sort of thing, gimme a heads up.
(and yes, I've read homepages of several libretto+cdcp people; I know itspossible and it's being done, I just want to know if peopel are happy with it and hear some more experiences.)
JUST a NeXT with real pretty graphics? dont you mean "WOW!?!?!!! this is a Next WITH REAL PRETTY GRAPHICS!?!$!!!!$ and an insanely fast chip! and prospects for future refinements and developments!"
nexts rule. if I could get a 500 MhZ next, I would, and that's why I'm considering a g4 now.
I wonder how long before we run out of oili to a degree severe enough that the oil industries are forced to invest in more research like this just to stay afloat.
if I put myself into a situation where it is likely that I will get shot and I'm not wearing a bulletproof vest, I would be at least partially responsible for any injuries I sustained.
if you go driving around with no seatbelt and I slam into your car and you die, don't you think you're somewhat at fault?
actually, now that you mention bacon, I think my ideal diet would be lean(ish) bacon and a handful of vitamins. and plenty of excersize.
artificial dichotomy? what's more artificial - schools strongly pushing computer curricula on girls who, for whatever reason, aren't interested, or having a technology world staffed mostly by males?
and why can't we allow it to continue? last time I checked, the vast majority of nurses and secretaries were females, and noone seems to be making a push to "rectify" this "travesty".
people of different sexes are not the same, and they might just statistically perfer different types of things. no need to huff and puff about artificial dichotomies and sexism - if you have a problem with the way women are treated in the industry, just make a personal effort to treat them better.
it's only sad to the people who don't take advantage of situations where it's easy to get away with something. why should your "morality" dictate the choices I make? if you leave yourself wide open to being taken advantage of, you deserve what you get.
well, that's a pretty retarded way of looking at the demise of "wonderful" shareware. did you ever think that if a concept can't stand up to the fact that there are HUGE numbers of people in the world that have absolutely no problem with acting "dishonestly" if it's goign to benefit them (and, at the same time, not goign to involve taking a large risk), then the concept is weak and doomed to die?
what makes shareware so wonderful? that it _assumes_ everyone is honest? that's a tragic flaw in the concept, not a strength. same goes for free-PC's-if-you-watch-our-advertizing. terrible, terrible idea to base your business on the assumption that everyone in the world is making decisions based on the moral values that you employ.
why in the world would you limit yourself to only acts that would be considered "moral"? you're cutting yourself off from a vast percentage of possible options.
nothing wrong with porkaritos for those times when you just gotta have a little pork fat, tho. and since youre full of flavorice, you wont gorge yourself often.
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I really don't give a fuck what the average /. reader thinks about an article. And since I can READ, I don't have to randomly click on articles; I can just click on the ones that interest me. Theres no reason for articles to be moderated, since you can scan all the articles extremely quickly (assuming you can read; perhaps you can't) and decide which you want to look at.
Are you really this stupid?
if you're really looking at this from the hacker perspective, you view eating from a utilitarian and pleasure-oriented point of view. first, you need to eat, and second, you can have very happy sensations when you eat certain foods. the utilitarian bit is what makes you want to eat one thing that contains all your vitamins and minerals and whatnot so that you can stay alive as efficiently as possible. the pleasure-oriented part is what make you eat doritoes and coke and unhealthy stuff that tastes yummy.
what I propose is the following - get as many vitamins and minerals as possible through the use of dietary supplements. quite simple - you can eat a handful of pills and never work about scurvy or any other wierd deficiency no matter what other shit you eat.
then you eat a lot of something that fills you up but isnt loaded with fat. I prefer Fla*Vor*Ice, sometimes I switch to bleached white Wonder bread (mmmmmmmm); you might like cheez-its or doritoes or any number of things. IMPORTANT - do not pick something like "pork rinds" or "lard" for this unless you want to turn into a disgusting blob. eat this food all day, every day.
then, every time you feel like eating something else specifically, go get some. i.e., if suddently you want a pastrami sandwich, or some steak, or some carrots, or some tofu, get it. your general sense of fullness will prevent you from pigging out on these sporadic demand-items, but you won't die of protein deficiency or anything of the sort, because when your body needs something, it will tell you.
Yeah, I agree. As long as the FSF continues to spout rhetoric about how ALL SOFTWARE SHOULD BE FREE and ANYONE WHO WANTS YOU TO PAY FOR SOFTWARE IS TRYIGN TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS, I'm going to conspicuously never donate anythign their way.
If you want to write some free software, that's cool. If you want to have a license that requires all your work to stay free, that's clever. But if you bitch and piss and moan for decade after decade about how evil people that write and sell and make a profit off commercial, pay software, don't be surprised when those people don't turn their hard earned money over to you.
You'd think that RMS would realize by this point that the people that he's tryign to get to support his cause are the people who are basin gtheir lives on doing what he's crusading about. That contradiction alone is enough to make me doubt his sanity.
Someone care to explain exactly why we're posting completely devoid-of-technological-content movie reviews on slashdot now? Aren't we supposed to be up in arms about what the MPAA is tryign to do with this money they get every time we go to a movie? I mean aside from the fact that noone gives two shits about what movie dicaprio is in now, the whole concept of evaluating stuff made by peopel you're boycotting is a little ridiculous.
good job, Katz - nice to see you stand up for the principles of the community. or did you even buy a ticket - this review sounds like you saw the commercial trailer, but I'm not sure you saw the actual movie.
Katz is bad enough when he has a reason to open his mouth and spew forth the crap he calls articles. gratuitous movie reviews of completely 0-technology-related cinema (and I use the term VERY loosely) are 100% unneccessary in this forum.
yes, we do.
Tcl/Tk is so wonderful, I don't see why anyone would bother using another scripting-type interpreted language.
bug free games?
got tony hawk? create a new game and save it. kill power and load saved game. when selecting skater equipment, look at your wheels. do you see wheels? if you do, hit up once. you should now see no wheels. select this equipment, b00m crash.
I own 2 psx games and I dont make a habit of looking for bugs, but I would imagine there are a lot more than this one.
a. using really old code is a way to get owned quicker. slack 3.0 probably has some ancient version of sendmail which is guaranteed rootable remotely, among other holes. your best bet is to get new everything, and keep updated regarding patches. but thats just the problem - bugs exist BEFORE patches, and eventually, someone will find a bug in somethign that youre runnign with privs, and then U R 0wn3d as they say. how long has sendmail been around? longer than slackware, and you can bet there are probably a few holes in it still that noone has been clever enough to find (or nice enough to distribute).
b. your access restriction would be a great idea, as long as you can guarantee with absolute certainty that the programs you use to authenticate "legitimate users" are 100% bug free. if they aren't, theres a possibility of getting rooted, and once that happens, all these clever logs and tripwires of yours do you exactly 0 good. how do you think people running sshd with RSAREF felt when this "secure" shell daemon turned out to be remotely exploitable?
dont trust the internet to connect to a computer that you dont want rooted. it's a losing bet in the long run.
wow, you're exceedingly clever, what with this pat response and all. should I post my concerns again here verbatim, just for fun?
We're entirely unworried about someone breakign into your machines and trojannign the code you're distributing. thats what md5 checksums are for, and that's why everyone uses them.
What we're concerned with is the fact that you want us to run precompiled code. We don't know what this code does, because you won't release the source to it. We don't trust your assurances that it does what you advertise, and we're not about to potentially compromise our machines by installing government software on them.
What are you hiding? Surely you know that if someone really wants to get around your scanner, they'll take the time to disassemble it and figure out how they're being scanned. The average person responsible for doing actual work, however, doesnt have that type of time at his disposal; Joe Sysadmin is going to laugh at your attempts to get him to run untrusted software.
You're really deluded.
The more services that you make available to everyone on the internet, the more likely you are to be compromised due to some bug in some software that you're running that noone knows about today, but that someone's goign to find out about and exploit tomorrow.
You can't say that anyone with any administrative ability can put up all sorts of stuff and not get rooted. that's simply not true. you would have to be very very lucky to run a machine with that kind of availability and that much code accessible to the general public and not eventually get broken into.
you can? you think if I broke into your machine and initiated a DoS attack, I wouldn't take the time to remove myself from your logs?
in 1992 my machine at NYU was broken into and used as a stepping stone to break into some machines in Germany. *I* was the one who had to deal with the university coming down and unplugging my stuff and trying to kick me out of housing, and I'm the one with my name in some FBI file somewhere; in my situation, it was quite clear from the logs on my machine that it was being used by someone else to attack systems.
I assure you that you don't want to deal with a situation like this, and if you're young and stupid (or perhaps just stupid) and you don't secure your machines at least enough so that Joe Skriptkiddie can't immediately root you up, you run a very considerable risk of gettign owned and used like I was.