When you can't answer basic issues insult the person asking. Then ask questions that are not really questions but rather the same excuses you used previously attempting to look intelligent.
If you stop and realize that the overwhelming majority of today's Servers _are_ Linux then you can not use the excuse that nobody will support Linux. Most companies have teams of administrators doing just that, supporting Linux.
So perhaps you are stuck in 2000 and think Windows will be the biggest thing in servers, but that has not been true for any Server market ever. You simply can't, or are a shill so won't, acknowledge basic facts. Further, you refuse to correlate Servers with Desktops. Not because it's impossible but because you are either ignorant or a shill so simply refuse.
Since your only retort has been ad hominem, I'll prefix my next responses as "Go pound some sand up your ass!" I refuse to waste my time on people who are so intellectually challenged that they must resort to personal attacks as their first and only method of debate.
This is going to be harsh, but I have no idea how else to put your statement into perspective. You mean to say that because you are lazy the rest of the world must be too? Since you are choosing to remain ignorant, everyone else must be just like you?
I have spent nearly 30 years working in IT. The last 15 of that has been where Linux was the primary business operating system. This is not at one company, but every company I know runs Linux as their primary OS. Anything Oracle Database is probably running Linux today (not all, but most). Anything running SAP is probably running Linux today, anything running LAMP, anything running a firewall (most are pure Linux), any load balancer (most I know are running Linux), most embedded devices I can think of, most hosted cloud servers run Linux, most FEA/CAE (simulation/analysis) runs on Linux.
I have run Linux as a primary desktop for the majority of that same 15 years. If I need Visio (about the only thing I can't run in *nix) I can boot a VM. "support myself" has translated into not as much work as I would have had to do with Windows. Why? No anti-virus needed, no anti-malware needed, no "patch tuesday" and every other graphics update breaking my PC. I have had to learn about OpenOffice and LibreOffice, but they are both at least as easy to install as MS office and just as easy to use. I run KDE which has been stable and performs better than Windows for graphics. Windows every year or so needs to be reloaded due to cruft, bloat, and corruption in the magical Registry. Linux, I copy a config file and can see everything my computer is doing at all times.
Wrong, read the books. Socrates was executed because he pissed off a guy with a lot of money. I really don't understand why people make up fairy tales when the facts are at your fingertips. All you have to do is read a bit, but I guess that is expecting way too much.
My actual statement to TFA is that it's impossible to measure so impossible to make any such claims. I don't know anyone that has worked in the IT industry and become successful without putting in loads of work early in their career. I spent about a decade working damn near every waking hour. Everyone I know in IT was doing the same thing at about the same time/age.
Claiming this generation works harder is a bullshit generalization, just like claiming my generation worked harder would be a bullshit generalization. I know some millennials that put in a lot of work, but I see quite a few that don't as well. I don't expect them to last long working in IT, because it takes a shit ton of work to gain enough skills to become a commodity.
The second part that becomes impossible to measure is how I rate people I no longer work with? After 30 years of work in IT I don't interface with entry level people very often. Do I have more knowledge than them? Absolutely, I have been at this for 30 years and am very good. Do I have to, or want to, work 90 hour weeks still? Hell no! I did my time in the trenches. Does that mean an entry level person does more than I do? No! Part of the reason I don't have to work 90 hour weeks is that I am more efficient than I was as an entry level person. My tasks are different today, but if I have to help someone with a bit of code I don't have to spend much time looking things up and experimenting.
To be pedantic, Socrates never wrote anything. Plato writes specifically about this fact. Socrates did not believe you could teach Philosophy by writing, he believed it required active arguments tailored for each individual.
Bad example, this was written just before the collapse of the Athenian empire, so the guy had a point. Socrates himself was tried and executed by the invading forces.
Good grief, all you have to do is read Plato's "The Apology" to see that your claim is pure bullshit. Nothing is even close to correct in your statement.
Haha.. no. Attempting to redefine things to suit your previous statements will not make you correct. Cocaine is not "healthy" even though it can make you more alert for a short time. Nobody in their right mind would ever make such a claim.. which leaves you not in a right mind.
So the Cuban missile crisis cost as many lives in either Cuba or the US as the Gulags did in Russia? Wholly fuck, I know people can attempt to stretch the imagination to maintain a belief...but that is simply insanity!
Jews did involve spying, the SS and German Military implemented a "see something say something" programs and offered rewards for information on Jews in hiding. (Should ring a bell with many commercials we hear on the radio and TV today right?).
As with the first point you are stretching things beyond imagination and into lunacy. Show me a single case of DOMESTIC spying that was not used nefariously.. No.. I won't wait because it never happened.
Not that you are guilty of all of what follows, but I have to point out the obvious.
Should a shot put be what ever size and shape someone else wants, or standard? How about a discus? Javelin? Don't want to compare to Olympic sports, how about NBA. Can a team inflate their balls to a different pressure than the other team, or wear them a certain way to gain an advantage? It is all standardized to make the competition as fair as possible.
The lengths that people will go to excuse a lack of fairness is really amazing. The lengths that people will go to in an effort of excusing cheating is just as amazing, but a bit more appalling.
Come now, do you expect us to believe that a guy who eats at a fast food restaurant and gets 30-44oz drinks is eating and drinking healthy? Fat chance! (pun intended)
No, it should not be illegal (NYC) but at least be honest with people.
No, you failed to do the same work I told the AC to do! It depends on which time frame you are talking about whether or not there was a ceiling on paying 90%. Are you talking about 1918, or 1950? There were numerous changes in the tax code during that time, and some of those changes were reverted.
I would agree that no rich guy ever paid 90% tax, but it was not even close to your claim of it being the same as today. The people with the most wealth have paid less in taxes than anyone else since Reagan. Up until that fairy tale of "trickle down economics" there were huge fights regarding the tax code and the wealthy were paying much more than today.. much more.
No, it is not a myth at all. Tax forms are public information and you can review them from the very first tax form. Up until Nixon it was not uncommon for people to pay 90% tax. Average wages may have been around 20K/yr at the time, and if you made a million a year you would still have 5 times the average salary. There were some fluctuations, and certain investments could be taken out of wages.. but not that many especially early in our income tax history.
Do yourself a favor, and actually do the work you claim other people failed to do before dishing out false information.
Over most of history spying has saved lives more than taken them.
I find it so odd that people on Slashdot sing the praises of the "Codebreakers" of WWII but are shocked and freaked out that they are still around today.
BTW the US and Britian both spied and used code breaking before the war started so... Yes they were spying in peacetime!!!!! Shocking.
No, spying has not saved more lives than it's cost. Spying is what caused countless Russians to be sent to Gulags, countless Jews to be sent to concentration camps, countless people from the DPRK to be killed because they disagreed with the "dear leader". In fact go back further in history and see how many lives spying cost throughout history.
The first problem is that you are attempting to claim foreign and domestic spying are the same. They are not the same, have never been the same. Domestic spying _always_ has nefarious purposes. We could argue similarly with foreign spying as well. How many people in DPRK has China spying caught? How many people in East Germany were caught by Russians?
JFK's famous line "the very word secrecy in a free and open society is repugnant" is spot on. It's not really hard to understand "why" if you look at the big picture.
Sorry, but you can't equate a nations survival against a different nation with an argument with your wife. Not even close to the same thing, and much more is at stake. Take his biggest example, what should Earth's surface temperature target? Any fixed rate will impact someone's growing seasons and food production. Somebody has to lose something, or perhaps it's best to term it "sacrifice" something. Does Asia lose rice production, or does Europe/North America lose grain production?
The article does not even tough the bigger issues. The particles that have been patented for use in GeoEngineering are hazardous. Perhaps there are other patents we don't know about, but the ones we do know about are primarily barium and aluminum. Neither humans or animals process large amounts of metals very well, and metals have a toxic effect over time because we can't process them out of our systems. Somebody has to take the blame when people start dropping, and war is probably going seen as the only option to fight off "those evil poisoner people".
I would agree that our so-called "News" blows some things out of proportion. At the same time I lived most of my life near Detroit and more recently in CA (SF Area). I have friends and family in most Southern states. There are absolutely pockets where the economy is bad enough that I'd agree with GP about the powder keg waiting for a spark. Even in the SF Bay area, I wonder how much it would take to see riots. Here there are the people with money, and those those without.
Measurements on just about everything prove that the Middle Class is becoming an endangered species. The lack of a middle class will lead to revolts at some point, history is pretty clear on that. The Lords with money are generally given plenty of room to be Lords as long as the subjects have a trajectory upward. When all avenues are closed and your option is to be a peasant, Lords tend to lose their heads.
You are claiming that media plays up incidents of protest, which I agree with. We also know that they downplay incidents of protest, distort protests, and in some cases just ignore the best informed protests. It happens to work both ways, depending on who benefits. Racial tensions keep the peasants bickering with each other. Political corruption does not. Guess which gets air time?
More likely that nothing changes in my opinion. Society in the US is on brittle ice in many areas. More abuse by oligarchy may push things enough to break the ice, and people in power don't want that to happen. Contrary to the popular opinion, the people in power are not stupid and did not get into power by accident. They are actually very intelligent and well informed for the most part.
No change means that the people currently afforded protection, like IBM/Microsoft/Oracle/etc..., still have their idea patents being enforced. The public bickering however makes the little people think something is working in their favor.
I have learned over a half a century never to measure by what a politician says, but measure their actions. Yup, I'm cynical and pessimistic with the US Government. Decades of watching unchecked abuses tends to do that to a person.
'Hundreds of thousands of troops in the Middle East' happened in your imagination only.
Koch brothers having more wealth than Rockefeller is another pathetic delusion. Do a damn Google search.
It is impossible to argue facts against your fantasies.
Oh, and you could also Google search books discussing political conspiracy. That is much harder than Koch wealth and Rockefeller wealth, and takes much more reading. I'm sure hell would freeze over before you attempted to read something that challenged your deluded opinion.
Ignore everything and stuff a different label on it to make it true, right? You really believe that the Koch brothers have different interests than lets say David Rockefeller? Do you really believe that they would be allowed to manipulate the system against someone with that much influence? You are sadly wrong on all accounts.
Proven wrong about the Middle East you simply ignore the content and move the argument back to childish labels... truly sad.
Why not read one of the thousands of books written on the subject? Because facts hurt your beliefs right? No sense arguing further.
No, I'm claiming that there is no difference between Democrat and/or Republican in the US. There has been no difference for as long as I have been aware of politics (lat 80s) but other people point out that this goes further back (50s/60s).
If the rhetoric claimed by one politicians is X, and the other claims Y they both end up doing Z. Not once, but with anything that matters.
This is factual, volumes of books have been written on the subject. You just don't want to see it because "your guy" could not possibly want to screw you over.
I gave the example of the Middle East and you simply denied it because we pulled out a few US Military people. Which completely ignores the fact that we have increased arming and funding rebel groups, increased bombing campaigns against countries we are not at war with, increased drone operations, and increased the amount of Mercenary companies getting paid by the US Government to be there in place of Uniformed Military.
You really should start looking at the broader picture and use your head a bit. Bush rolling back regulations took more than his pen stroke, and was in the works since the regulations were passed in the 1970s (Clinton did not initiate anti-pollution laws, Carter and Ford did [kind of]). Obama has made the Middle East complete chaos for now at least a half dozen countries instead of the 2 Bush put us in. These guys are not different, you just refuse facts. Perhaps you believe that all of the chaos is purely accidental, and these politicians are really just idiots that don't know what they are doing..
You are ignoring all of the various causes for Global warming to make your broken case. Go ahead and live in a Landfill and see how well you are in a few months. Go ahead and breath exhaust for a while, or coal dust, or hang out near some radioactive waste for a while.
In other words, this argument is worse than your last. The only way to make your claim is to ignore reality. Pollution is a huge problem, look at the great Pacific garbage dump as one example. Then remember that EVERY ocean has the same problem. Look at the pollutants in the Great Lakes, and realize that EVERY river and lake in the US has similar problems. Look at the massive deforestation in the US, Africa, South Americal, etc.... Man does not have impact in your fantasy land? Really now....
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I don't think you understand what "get by well" really means. It does not translate to "better than other options", it is exactly what it states.
When you can't answer basic issues insult the person asking. Then ask questions that are not really questions but rather the same excuses you used previously attempting to look intelligent.
If you stop and realize that the overwhelming majority of today's Servers _are_ Linux then you can not use the excuse that nobody will support Linux. Most companies have teams of administrators doing just that, supporting Linux.
So perhaps you are stuck in 2000 and think Windows will be the biggest thing in servers, but that has not been true for any Server market ever. You simply can't, or are a shill so won't, acknowledge basic facts. Further, you refuse to correlate Servers with Desktops. Not because it's impossible but because you are either ignorant or a shill so simply refuse.
Since your only retort has been ad hominem, I'll prefix my next responses as "Go pound some sand up your ass!" I refuse to waste my time on people who are so intellectually challenged that they must resort to personal attacks as their first and only method of debate.
This is going to be harsh, but I have no idea how else to put your statement into perspective. You mean to say that because you are lazy the rest of the world must be too? Since you are choosing to remain ignorant, everyone else must be just like you?
I have spent nearly 30 years working in IT. The last 15 of that has been where Linux was the primary business operating system. This is not at one company, but every company I know runs Linux as their primary OS. Anything Oracle Database is probably running Linux today (not all, but most). Anything running SAP is probably running Linux today, anything running LAMP, anything running a firewall (most are pure Linux), any load balancer (most I know are running Linux), most embedded devices I can think of, most hosted cloud servers run Linux, most FEA/CAE (simulation/analysis) runs on Linux.
I have run Linux as a primary desktop for the majority of that same 15 years. If I need Visio (about the only thing I can't run in *nix) I can boot a VM. "support myself" has translated into not as much work as I would have had to do with Windows. Why? No anti-virus needed, no anti-malware needed, no "patch tuesday" and every other graphics update breaking my PC. I have had to learn about OpenOffice and LibreOffice, but they are both at least as easy to install as MS office and just as easy to use. I run KDE which has been stable and performs better than Windows for graphics. Windows every year or so needs to be reloaded due to cruft, bloat, and corruption in the magical Registry. Linux, I copy a config file and can see everything my computer is doing at all times.
So in your imagination things were worse.. which really means nothing because we measure reality. Thanks for being clear about your delusion.
Wrong, read the books. Socrates was executed because he pissed off a guy with a lot of money. I really don't understand why people make up fairy tales when the facts are at your fingertips. All you have to do is read a bit, but I guess that is expecting way too much.
My actual statement to TFA is that it's impossible to measure so impossible to make any such claims. I don't know anyone that has worked in the IT industry and become successful without putting in loads of work early in their career. I spent about a decade working damn near every waking hour. Everyone I know in IT was doing the same thing at about the same time/age.
Claiming this generation works harder is a bullshit generalization, just like claiming my generation worked harder would be a bullshit generalization. I know some millennials that put in a lot of work, but I see quite a few that don't as well. I don't expect them to last long working in IT, because it takes a shit ton of work to gain enough skills to become a commodity.
The second part that becomes impossible to measure is how I rate people I no longer work with? After 30 years of work in IT I don't interface with entry level people very often. Do I have more knowledge than them? Absolutely, I have been at this for 30 years and am very good. Do I have to, or want to, work 90 hour weeks still? Hell no! I did my time in the trenches. Does that mean an entry level person does more than I do? No! Part of the reason I don't have to work 90 hour weeks is that I am more efficient than I was as an entry level person. My tasks are different today, but if I have to help someone with a bit of code I don't have to spend much time looking things up and experimenting.
To be pedantic, Socrates never wrote anything. Plato writes specifically about this fact. Socrates did not believe you could teach Philosophy by writing, he believed it required active arguments tailored for each individual.
Bad example, this was written just before the collapse of the Athenian empire, so the guy had a point. Socrates himself was tried and executed by the invading forces.
Good grief, all you have to do is read Plato's "The Apology" to see that your claim is pure bullshit. Nothing is even close to correct in your statement.
Haha.. no. Attempting to redefine things to suit your previous statements will not make you correct. Cocaine is not "healthy" even though it can make you more alert for a short time. Nobody in their right mind would ever make such a claim.. which leaves you not in a right mind.
So the Cuban missile crisis cost as many lives in either Cuba or the US as the Gulags did in Russia? Wholly fuck, I know people can attempt to stretch the imagination to maintain a belief...but that is simply insanity!
Jews did involve spying, the SS and German Military implemented a "see something say something" programs and offered rewards for information on Jews in hiding. (Should ring a bell with many commercials we hear on the radio and TV today right?).
As with the first point you are stretching things beyond imagination and into lunacy. Show me a single case of DOMESTIC spying that was not used nefariously.. No.. I won't wait because it never happened.
I have no confidence you understand the word standard, or standardized.
No, you can not compare Football to Baseball. Soccer or Basketball are fair because the competition is based on the one ball in play.
Not that you are guilty of all of what follows, but I have to point out the obvious.
Should a shot put be what ever size and shape someone else wants, or standard? How about a discus? Javelin? Don't want to compare to Olympic sports, how about NBA. Can a team inflate their balls to a different pressure than the other team, or wear them a certain way to gain an advantage? It is all standardized to make the competition as fair as possible.
The lengths that people will go to excuse a lack of fairness is really amazing. The lengths that people will go to in an effort of excusing cheating is just as amazing, but a bit more appalling.
And you believe that those are healthy? Really?
Who says he drank sugar soda?
Come now, do you expect us to believe that a guy who eats at a fast food restaurant and gets 30-44oz drinks is eating and drinking healthy? Fat chance! (pun intended)
No, it should not be illegal (NYC) but at least be honest with people.
No, you failed to do the same work I told the AC to do! It depends on which time frame you are talking about whether or not there was a ceiling on paying 90%. Are you talking about 1918, or 1950? There were numerous changes in the tax code during that time, and some of those changes were reverted.
I would agree that no rich guy ever paid 90% tax, but it was not even close to your claim of it being the same as today. The people with the most wealth have paid less in taxes than anyone else since Reagan. Up until that fairy tale of "trickle down economics" there were huge fights regarding the tax code and the wealthy were paying much more than today.. much more.
No, it is not a myth at all. Tax forms are public information and you can review them from the very first tax form. Up until Nixon it was not uncommon for people to pay 90% tax. Average wages may have been around 20K/yr at the time, and if you made a million a year you would still have 5 times the average salary. There were some fluctuations, and certain investments could be taken out of wages.. but not that many especially early in our income tax history.
Do yourself a favor, and actually do the work you claim other people failed to do before dishing out false information.
Over most of history spying has saved lives more than taken them.
I find it so odd that people on Slashdot sing the praises of the "Codebreakers" of WWII but are shocked and freaked out that they are still around today. BTW the US and Britian both spied and used code breaking before the war started so... Yes they were spying in peacetime!!!!! Shocking.
No, spying has not saved more lives than it's cost. Spying is what caused countless Russians to be sent to Gulags, countless Jews to be sent to concentration camps, countless people from the DPRK to be killed because they disagreed with the "dear leader". In fact go back further in history and see how many lives spying cost throughout history.
The first problem is that you are attempting to claim foreign and domestic spying are the same. They are not the same, have never been the same. Domestic spying _always_ has nefarious purposes. We could argue similarly with foreign spying as well. How many people in DPRK has China spying caught? How many people in East Germany were caught by Russians?
JFK's famous line "the very word secrecy in a free and open society is repugnant" is spot on. It's not really hard to understand "why" if you look at the big picture.
Sorry, but you can't equate a nations survival against a different nation with an argument with your wife. Not even close to the same thing, and much more is at stake. Take his biggest example, what should Earth's surface temperature target? Any fixed rate will impact someone's growing seasons and food production. Somebody has to lose something, or perhaps it's best to term it "sacrifice" something. Does Asia lose rice production, or does Europe/North America lose grain production?
The article does not even tough the bigger issues. The particles that have been patented for use in GeoEngineering are hazardous. Perhaps there are other patents we don't know about, but the ones we do know about are primarily barium and aluminum. Neither humans or animals process large amounts of metals very well, and metals have a toxic effect over time because we can't process them out of our systems. Somebody has to take the blame when people start dropping, and war is probably going seen as the only option to fight off "those evil poisoner people".
I would agree that our so-called "News" blows some things out of proportion. At the same time I lived most of my life near Detroit and more recently in CA (SF Area). I have friends and family in most Southern states. There are absolutely pockets where the economy is bad enough that I'd agree with GP about the powder keg waiting for a spark. Even in the SF Bay area, I wonder how much it would take to see riots. Here there are the people with money, and those those without.
Measurements on just about everything prove that the Middle Class is becoming an endangered species. The lack of a middle class will lead to revolts at some point, history is pretty clear on that. The Lords with money are generally given plenty of room to be Lords as long as the subjects have a trajectory upward. When all avenues are closed and your option is to be a peasant, Lords tend to lose their heads.
You are claiming that media plays up incidents of protest, which I agree with. We also know that they downplay incidents of protest, distort protests, and in some cases just ignore the best informed protests. It happens to work both ways, depending on who benefits. Racial tensions keep the peasants bickering with each other. Political corruption does not. Guess which gets air time?
More likely that nothing changes in my opinion. Society in the US is on brittle ice in many areas. More abuse by oligarchy may push things enough to break the ice, and people in power don't want that to happen. Contrary to the popular opinion, the people in power are not stupid and did not get into power by accident. They are actually very intelligent and well informed for the most part.
No change means that the people currently afforded protection, like IBM/Microsoft/Oracle/etc..., still have their idea patents being enforced. The public bickering however makes the little people think something is working in their favor.
I have learned over a half a century never to measure by what a politician says, but measure their actions. Yup, I'm cynical and pessimistic with the US Government. Decades of watching unchecked abuses tends to do that to a person.
'Hundreds of thousands of troops in the Middle East' happened in your imagination only.
Koch brothers having more wealth than Rockefeller is another pathetic delusion. Do a damn Google search.
It is impossible to argue facts against your fantasies.
Oh, and you could also Google search books discussing political conspiracy. That is much harder than Koch wealth and Rockefeller wealth, and takes much more reading. I'm sure hell would freeze over before you attempted to read something that challenged your deluded opinion.
Ignore everything and stuff a different label on it to make it true, right? You really believe that the Koch brothers have different interests than lets say David Rockefeller? Do you really believe that they would be allowed to manipulate the system against someone with that much influence? You are sadly wrong on all accounts.
Proven wrong about the Middle East you simply ignore the content and move the argument back to childish labels... truly sad.
Why not read one of the thousands of books written on the subject? Because facts hurt your beliefs right? No sense arguing further.
No, I'm claiming that there is no difference between Democrat and/or Republican in the US. There has been no difference for as long as I have been aware of politics (lat 80s) but other people point out that this goes further back (50s/60s).
If the rhetoric claimed by one politicians is X, and the other claims Y they both end up doing Z. Not once, but with anything that matters.
This is factual, volumes of books have been written on the subject. You just don't want to see it because "your guy" could not possibly want to screw you over.
I gave the example of the Middle East and you simply denied it because we pulled out a few US Military people. Which completely ignores the fact that we have increased arming and funding rebel groups, increased bombing campaigns against countries we are not at war with, increased drone operations, and increased the amount of Mercenary companies getting paid by the US Government to be there in place of Uniformed Military.
You are blind!
You really should start looking at the broader picture and use your head a bit. Bush rolling back regulations took more than his pen stroke, and was in the works since the regulations were passed in the 1970s (Clinton did not initiate anti-pollution laws, Carter and Ford did [kind of]). Obama has made the Middle East complete chaos for now at least a half dozen countries instead of the 2 Bush put us in. These guys are not different, you just refuse facts. Perhaps you believe that all of the chaos is purely accidental, and these politicians are really just idiots that don't know what they are doing..
You are ignoring all of the various causes for Global warming to make your broken case. Go ahead and live in a Landfill and see how well you are in a few months. Go ahead and breath exhaust for a while, or coal dust, or hang out near some radioactive waste for a while.
In other words, this argument is worse than your last. The only way to make your claim is to ignore reality. Pollution is a huge problem, look at the great Pacific garbage dump as one example. Then remember that EVERY ocean has the same problem. Look at the pollutants in the Great Lakes, and realize that EVERY river and lake in the US has similar problems. Look at the massive deforestation in the US, Africa, South Americal, etc.... Man does not have impact in your fantasy land? Really now....