If you have evidence to disprove your current theory, and in the face of it, can't back yourself up then you should change your view. In other words, Hawking found he was wrong, admitted it and carried on working in the name of science, NOT in the name of Hawking. However, as we've seen this also worked in his name, as everyone thinks he's a really cool dude due to his honesty.
Einstein, I believe, believed his theory was still correct and therefore defended it. I'm sure that Hawking would've done the same. Refusing to give up in the face of evidence is not necessarily bad - perhaps you have better evidence. I, however, would say that Einstein fought for a lost cause.
Most of the time, a gun fired in defence doesn't hit its intended target, instead hitting innocents, including the wielder. Often guns are taken from a victim and turned against them, so I don't think self defense is such a good argument for legalised gun ownership.
I know we all love Mr. Moore, but surely obtaining a gun straight from a bank with just a few questions is a little too lax?
What you're doing is getting more force out of the same amount of fuel. You pay exactly the same amount for exactly the same amount (except for fluctuating fuel prices) just get more value for it.
Computers need updates. Obvious. There needs to be a way to display these updates. Obvious. This can be done in a moronic way: play an animation of all the products scrolling along on a conveyer belt, or sensibly: in a list. Also. Obvious.
The computer doesn't need software it already has. Don't display it. Obvious.
The list has to get from the remote machine to the local one. Obvious.
The updates also have to be sent. Obvious.
Claim 4 means an "Are you sure?" Dialog.
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BULLSHIT!
This is obviously a pretty stupid point. Any frequent computer user begins to remember where buttons, icons and menu items are, and hence develops a learned instinct to move the mouse towards them. When this is disrupted, you move the mouse to the wrong place and it takes more time. The thing is, when it's something as simple as button order, not really having a great deal of impact, why bother changing it, causing disruption, when there's barely any gain?
Here the market benefits from familiarity, not diversity.
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"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
Cult Cult (k?lt) n.F. culte, L. cultus care, culture, fr.
colere to cultivate. Cf. Cultus.
2. A system of religious belief and worship.
Now, some would add extra bits to that, such as "for the purpose of money." However, cult at its root holds no derogatory implications.
So you say you're a fundamentalist, but reject about two thirds of the bible? I thought that you took the Bible as the word of God (i.e. literally) yet you say that some of it doesn't matter? The words here are "'Ey, Up!"
Regardless, I have a question - what version of the Bible do you use? Surely, if there are so many different editions you can't be sure you have the right one. Or perhaps, they're all right, because the Bible is the words and what matters is how you interpret those words.
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It could be 144,000, But I can't remember. I'm not a Jehova's Witness. I think it's from Revelation, however.
So, let me get this straight: You believe in polygamy, in stoning your stubborn son and, that transvestites are a sin against God and that a non-virgin who marries must also be stoned. (Deuteronomy, 21:15,21 & 22:5, 21)
Seems a bit harsh, to me. Did these words come from your kind God, because if so, I want a different one.
Woah, correlation...
And for the guy up there who doesn't like Radiohead, well, I'd disagree with that. A lot of teenagers I know are now into Hip-hop, rap, etc. Unfortunately there seems to be a "sheep" rage at the moment, with everyone listening/doing the same thing. If you're not doing it you're "a freak."
Personally, I always liked being a freak, in that case.
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Good points, but interpretation is different to translation.
One translation can be interpreted in many different ways, some parts can be "ignored." There are so many stupid and irrelevant laws in Deuteronomy that it would be pointless to follow the Bible to the letter. We can't take anything at face value, as situations were very different at those points in time. I imagine many Muslims write off those passages as irrelevant, unnecessary or stupid. (Not all, of course.)
Yeah?? Well we didn't even have a mouse - we had to get a battery and manually apply current to the correct pins of the cable!
You try doing THAT when everything went PS2 - we didn't even pins.
I think a couple of coders should get together and write something exploiting holes in Windows to 'do good.'
There's no reason why trojans can't be used to patch machines, or install firefox/OSS. Or even use the host computers to do AV analysis or something.
With the number of holes out there, we may as well exploit them for the good of the world, or at least, the good of the Open Source Community.
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Precisely - I respect someone's decision as long as they've thought about it and come to a reasonable conclusion based on what they have.
If that decision is atheism, fine, but at least respect the rest of us.
Personally, I'm a New Agist-Liberalist-Christian-Agnostic. And that really doesn't work...
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Can't see how this is Flamebait, when it was straight out of the Koran. However, I'd deem that as fanaticism, as not all Muslims are out to kill all non-Muslims.
I don't know, but I assume that there are different interpretations of the Koran, as there are of the Bible.
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If we're going on exactly what the Bible says, then almost no Christian is actually a Christian. Religion has been accused of being impossible to change, and there was a book published by a Bishop entitled "Why Christianity must Change or Die." What Christianity is isn't the same as what it was, and won't remain the same forever.
Some denominations of Christianity believe that Christ is *not* the only way, but that he is actually one, a good one, and perhaps the best - bot not the only.
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If I said "all religions" I apologise - that was not intentional.
Some religions are probably wrong, to greater or lesser degrees, but that doesn't mean that only one has the correct way of life. Or that there is only one correct way of life - going back to the mountain, there are different ways up it, you know.
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Wooooaaaah, that's a bit harsh.
The Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian, but they take some parts of the bible as absolute fact. For one, that there are only 40,000 places in heaven and the only way to earn one is to convert as many people as possible
Saying that the Bible is the only truth out there is bigoted, and anyone who does say so needs to realise that they do not and cannot know everything.
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The car doesn't have to be a Methodism or a Liberal or whatever, nor even a Christianity or a Hinduism - it could be an Atheism, as long as its got that engine, petrol, steering wheel, etc.
Perhaps some have made it to the top without a car, but it's kind of risky, and a four-by-four is a lot more attractive when going up a 1-in-3 slope. If you get tired out, or fall down, you've just lost a lot of time - you'd better hope that someone will give you a lift - hopefully you'll happen upon a religion that doesn't burn hitchhikers.
Well, you seem to have ignored the point I made, but perhaps there was a valid reason! As I said, the belief doesn't have to be valid, although it might help, most claims that I've heard of Christianity can be backed up. There are books devoted to backing yourself up when faced with "God doesn't exist" and all that - so it can't be that false.
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"If you found somewhere in the Bible that slavery is okay (and because it acknowledges slavery but doesn't mention that its wrong, its implicitly approving of the practice), would that change your moral stance at all? Or would you come up with a reason on why to ignore that part of the Bible? Honestly."
There are but a few groups who take the Bible word-for-word (The Evangelists, sort of, and another whose name escapes me) Nowadays most Christians interpret the Bible and not so much ignore it, as explain away or take it into a modern setting.
Yes, a lot of people nowadays choose to pass over religion, completely or otherwise. However, this doesn't mean that it is a) right or b) wrong.
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First last: of course, what's good in one culture/to one person may be bad to another, but that doesn't necessarily mean that that way is bad. There does not need to be one way of doing things that is correct - there could be many, and providing those don't try and mix with each other we'll be alright. Otherwise lots of people in both cultures will get annoyed and we have a mess.
On Exclusivity - this is one of the things that the Bible contradicts itself on, IIRC, and even if it isn't when taken literally, modern Christianity is all about interpretation of the Bible - making it useful to us, here, now.
One of the things said is that children have an angel, and if they die before coming into contact with Christianity, this angel will stick up for them. Literally - there you have it. However, we can extend this to the fact that, if someone who's never heard "The Word" can still enter "heaven," what other virtues are they judged upon that allows them in, and why can't those virtues then be applied to us?
Interpret it how you will - this is why there are so many different Christian denominations, but there have been discussions (with me present) about whether belief in the christian God is necessary to enter heaven or whatever you want heaven to represent. This shows that it can work with Christianity - although with some, perhaps many denominations, it doesn't.
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Well the correct term here is "My Bad," thanks for pointing that out.
Although I did contradict myself and almost say that after "however."
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Perhaps it is, but for me, that is irrelevant.
I see religion a bit like a car. You're trying to drive somewhere (for example, eternal life, happiness, whatever you view the goal of religion as) - to the top of a hill. It's too steep and tall for you to walk up it, so you need a different type of transport.
The car of your choice could be a jaguar, lexus, ford, bmw, whatever. It will still get you to the top of the hill. What "getting to the top of the hill" is like is how you live your life - as long as you live your life well, you'll be alright.
Religion provides a way of doing that - "Christian Values" for example. Thou shalt not kill is one of these ways of life. Love thy neighbour is another. Do these kinds of things and it matters not whether you're Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jedi...
So as long as the religion gets you your way of life, it doesn't matter. This also means it should be possible to live without the religiousy bits - and of course it is. But don't just reject religion because "it's not true" - apart from the fact it might not be and you can never know that it isn't (so don't be so sure of yourself), as far as I see it, it doesn't matter.
Just be careful that your "religion" isn't like a helicopter - you'll miss the view.
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If you have evidence to disprove your current theory, and in the face of it, can't back yourself up then you should change your view. In other words, Hawking found he was wrong, admitted it and carried on working in the name of science, NOT in the name of Hawking. However, as we've seen this also worked in his name, as everyone thinks he's a really cool dude due to his honesty.
Einstein, I believe, believed his theory was still correct and therefore defended it. I'm sure that Hawking would've done the same. Refusing to give up in the face of evidence is not necessarily bad - perhaps you have better evidence. I, however, would say that Einstein fought for a lost cause.
Yeah, you need to ./configure, before compile. And you shouldn't have . in your $PATH.
And if it weren't for the lack of chemical reactions inside the body, they'd never die.
Most of the time, a gun fired in defence doesn't hit its intended target, instead hitting innocents, including the wielder. Often guns are taken from a victim and turned against them, so I don't think self defense is such a good argument for legalised gun ownership.
I know we all love Mr. Moore, but surely obtaining a gun straight from a bank with just a few questions is a little too lax?
What you're doing is getting more force out of the same amount of fuel. You pay exactly the same amount for exactly the same amount (except for fluctuating fuel prices) just get more value for it.
Computers need updates. Obvious. There needs to be a way to display these updates. Obvious. This can be done in a moronic way: play an animation of all the products scrolling along on a conveyer belt, or sensibly: in a list. Also. Obvious.
The computer doesn't need software it already has. Don't display it. Obvious.
The list has to get from the remote machine to the local one. Obvious.
The updates also have to be sent. Obvious.
Claim 4 means an "Are you sure?" Dialog.
I think I've justified what I'm going to cry in a few moments.
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BULLSHIT!
Never mind insightful, hows about obvious?
Yet another simple statement showing how stupid software patents are.
What choice!
This is obviously a pretty stupid point. Any frequent computer user begins to remember where buttons, icons and menu items are, and hence develops a learned instinct to move the mouse towards them. When this is disrupted, you move the mouse to the wrong place and it takes more time. The thing is, when it's something as simple as button order, not really having a great deal of impact, why bother changing it, causing disruption, when there's barely any gain?
Here the market benefits from familiarity, not diversity.
Now, some would add extra bits to that, such as "for the purpose of money." However, cult at its root holds no derogatory implications.
So you say you're a fundamentalist, but reject about two thirds of the bible? I thought that you took the Bible as the word of God (i.e. literally) yet you say that some of it doesn't matter? The words here are "'Ey, Up!"
Regardless, I have a question - what version of the Bible do you use? Surely, if there are so many different editions you can't be sure you have the right one. Or perhaps, they're all right, because the Bible is the words and what matters is how you interpret those words.
So, let me get this straight: You believe in polygamy, in stoning your stubborn son and, that transvestites are a sin against God and that a non-virgin who marries must also be stoned. (Deuteronomy, 21:15,21 & 22:5, 21)
Seems a bit harsh, to me. Did these words come from your kind God, because if so, I want a different one.
Woah, correlation...
And for the guy up there who doesn't like Radiohead, well, I'd disagree with that. A lot of teenagers I know are now into Hip-hop, rap, etc. Unfortunately there seems to be a "sheep" rage at the moment, with everyone listening/doing the same thing. If you're not doing it you're "a freak."
Personally, I always liked being a freak, in that case.
Good points, but interpretation is different to translation.
One translation can be interpreted in many different ways, some parts can be "ignored." There are so many stupid and irrelevant laws in Deuteronomy that it would be pointless to follow the Bible to the letter. We can't take anything at face value, as situations were very different at those points in time. I imagine many Muslims write off those passages as irrelevant, unnecessary or stupid. (Not all, of course.)
Yeah?? Well we didn't even have a mouse - we had to get a battery and manually apply current to the correct pins of the cable!
You try doing THAT when everything went PS2 - we didn't even pins.
I think a couple of coders should get together and write something exploiting holes in Windows to 'do good.'
There's no reason why trojans can't be used to patch machines, or install firefox/OSS. Or even use the host computers to do AV analysis or something.
With the number of holes out there, we may as well exploit them for the good of the world, or at least, the good of the Open Source Community.
If that decision is atheism, fine, but at least respect the rest of us.
Personally, I'm a New Agist-Liberalist-Christian-Agnostic. And that really doesn't work...
Can't see how this is Flamebait, when it was straight out of the Koran. However, I'd deem that as fanaticism, as not all Muslims are out to kill all non-Muslims.
I don't know, but I assume that there are different interpretations of the Koran, as there are of the Bible.
If we're going on exactly what the Bible says, then almost no Christian is actually a Christian. Religion has been accused of being impossible to change, and there was a book published by a Bishop entitled "Why Christianity must Change or Die." What Christianity is isn't the same as what it was, and won't remain the same forever.
Some denominations of Christianity believe that Christ is *not* the only way, but that he is actually one, a good one, and perhaps the best - bot not the only.
If I said "all religions" I apologise - that was not intentional.
Some religions are probably wrong, to greater or lesser degrees, but that doesn't mean that only one has the correct way of life. Or that there is only one correct way of life - going back to the mountain, there are different ways up it, you know.
The Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian, but they take some parts of the bible as absolute fact. For one, that there are only 40,000 places in heaven and the only way to earn one is to convert as many people as possible
Saying that the Bible is the only truth out there is bigoted, and anyone who does say so needs to realise that they do not and cannot know everything.
The car doesn't have to be a Methodism or a Liberal or whatever, nor even a Christianity or a Hinduism - it could be an Atheism, as long as its got that engine, petrol, steering wheel, etc.
Perhaps some have made it to the top without a car, but it's kind of risky, and a four-by-four is a lot more attractive when going up a 1-in-3 slope. If you get tired out, or fall down, you've just lost a lot of time - you'd better hope that someone will give you a lift - hopefully you'll happen upon a religion that doesn't burn hitchhikers.
Well, you seem to have ignored the point I made, but perhaps there was a valid reason! As I said, the belief doesn't have to be valid, although it might help, most claims that I've heard of Christianity can be backed up. There are books devoted to backing yourself up when faced with "God doesn't exist" and all that - so it can't be that false.
There are but a few groups who take the Bible word-for-word (The Evangelists, sort of, and another whose name escapes me) Nowadays most Christians interpret the Bible and not so much ignore it, as explain away or take it into a modern setting.
Yes, a lot of people nowadays choose to pass over religion, completely or otherwise. However, this doesn't mean that it is a) right or b) wrong.
First last: of course, what's good in one culture/to one person may be bad to another, but that doesn't necessarily mean that that way is bad. There does not need to be one way of doing things that is correct - there could be many, and providing those don't try and mix with each other we'll be alright. Otherwise lots of people in both cultures will get annoyed and we have a mess.
On Exclusivity - this is one of the things that the Bible contradicts itself on, IIRC, and even if it isn't when taken literally, modern Christianity is all about interpretation of the Bible - making it useful to us, here, now.
One of the things said is that children have an angel, and if they die before coming into contact with Christianity, this angel will stick up for them. Literally - there you have it. However, we can extend this to the fact that, if someone who's never heard "The Word" can still enter "heaven," what other virtues are they judged upon that allows them in, and why can't those virtues then be applied to us?
Interpret it how you will - this is why there are so many different Christian denominations, but there have been discussions (with me present) about whether belief in the christian God is necessary to enter heaven or whatever you want heaven to represent. This shows that it can work with Christianity - although with some, perhaps many denominations, it doesn't.
Well the correct term here is "My Bad," thanks for pointing that out.
Although I did contradict myself and almost say that after "however."
I see religion a bit like a car. You're trying to drive somewhere (for example, eternal life, happiness, whatever you view the goal of religion as) - to the top of a hill. It's too steep and tall for you to walk up it, so you need a different type of transport.
The car of your choice could be a jaguar, lexus, ford, bmw, whatever. It will still get you to the top of the hill. What "getting to the top of the hill" is like is how you live your life - as long as you live your life well, you'll be alright.
Religion provides a way of doing that - "Christian Values" for example. Thou shalt not kill is one of these ways of life. Love thy neighbour is another. Do these kinds of things and it matters not whether you're Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jedi...
So as long as the religion gets you your way of life, it doesn't matter. This also means it should be possible to live without the religiousy bits - and of course it is. But don't just reject religion because "it's not true" - apart from the fact it might not be and you can never know that it isn't (so don't be so sure of yourself), as far as I see it, it doesn't matter.
Just be careful that your "religion" isn't like a helicopter - you'll miss the view.