ATI has some great cards, and I think it is possible for us to see that kind of market share.... but can we get some real linux support??? The kinds of geeks who will plop down $400 for the best out there would love to see that. (Even if many games don't run under Linux, we still dual-boot!)
Hmm... perhaps instead of copying they should attempt to innovate:-). I think it is a horrible mistake for OS to simply mimic Windows OR Mac... without getting into the depths of that argument other to imply that to mimic is to 'follow' only, I simply think that it would be interesting to see linux outshine not only windows but also the MAC OS in terms of UI.
Has it been released _what_ portion (or all?) of code will Microsoft be forced to disclose?
What will this mean for software in the US (Will Linux finally be able to interface safely with NTFS, will Microsoft attempt region-basesd distributions...., etc, etc)?
-However, the serious threat lies in the sheer -ability of computer games to make people addicted -to them. I once saw a television program about -full-time gamers, who spend almost 16 hours a day -gaming. They sleep on bunkbeds in the same -building as where they play games. Even now, some -3D games are so realistic, that it is only the -control devices that give the game away (no pun -intended).
Umm... you mean...like... university dorm halls?;-)
How hard is it really to understand?
_Marketing_
Noone wants to re-educate the masses on the good points of a new compression utility when _everybody_ still associates MP3s with pretty good quality sound.
The consumer market is comfortable with it, the uneducated identify it with "new technology", and so-on and so forth.
....where....to.....start....
Instead of responding to this obvious (and idiotic) flamebait... I just have one thing to say....
Nick = Adolph_Hitler
Attitude = Arrogant
Political Party = Democrat
Does this seem strange/funny/disturbing to any of the rest of you?
Let see... we went from vaccume tubes to transistors...
300 baud modems to 56.k and then to broadband...
20 Megabyte (yes megabyte) HardDrives to 500GB and beyond
Low-Grade analog tapes to CD's...
70's disco clothing/clothes ala Miami Vice to modern styles (arguably the biggest accomplishment of the 90s;-) )
Perhaps you're not over the age of... 15, or what have you (and I'm not even sure what body of work from that time period you're referring to) but saying that the last 30 years of tech research are less than compelling is amusing to me....
Compare it to most other time periods in the history of the world and I think you'll find the increased scientific progress compelling. Our understanding of the universe and our ability to adapt it has _never_ grown at the pace it has been in the last 200 years. (IMHO, of course)
Unfortunatly, yes they do. I am no doctor, but from knowledge I picked up due to personal experience with a kindey transplant patient, and a few references I found through a quick google (http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2003/B/20036915.html, http://surgery.uchicago.edu/patients/ped/p_ltc3.ht m, and so on) implies that.
Basically, because any transplanted organ is a 'foriegn' object (it _is_ from someone else's body), the body's immune system recognizes that it is not part of it's body and attacks it in much the same way it would attack an infection. Because of this, all transplant recipients (including small children) must take drugs to lower their immune system's response to such things so that the body dosen't kill the new organ.
(FYI - I already _have_ a job as a sysadmin...)
Firstly - go see how many motherboard options you have when building your OWN G4 from parts.... hmm... darn. I will concede that the term "propriatry" wasn't appropriate, but rather I was referring to the lack of options in purchasing core system parts (processor, memory, etc). And although you can argue that this is part of why the Windows OS is a touch unstable, it also keeps the price of components for the PC down.
Secondly - I see no answers to the question - what makes this different?
Sometimes I don't belive the mods on here....
"YAY APPLE" - (this should get this post +5 Informative)
This total knee-jerk reaction is silly... sorry if you don't know how to config your box to not crash in any other OS...
And furthermore, I reboot my laptop (running linux) more than your Mac Laptop, not due to instability, but b/c I like to play with it. Rebooting isn't a de facto inconvienence, especially when everything auto-loads anyway;-).
Is this really E-Voting? Seriously - it's about a vote-card reader not reading ink from gel pens, not about some form of computer voting system....
(All of my most hated terms in geek-slang are E-******)
Yes Apple is the 'caddy' of the IT world in many respects right now.... Consider the cost of an apple G5 (MSRP approx (starts at $1799) - now consider the cost of you building your OWN 64 bit PC with similar specs and such (running linux).
I would hope you see a difference in price there... I certainly did when I built my system.
Admittedly you're getting benefits such as "customer service", QA, a 'sexy' machine, blah blah blah blah.
You're also getting _propriatary_ hardware (and for the most part more expensive). As a geek on a budget who dosn't mind getting his hands dirty (and a _huge_ OS X fan) I can tell you it'll be a cold day in hell before I buy apple computer hardware. Their OS, however.....:-)
The other quesion that this all raises is - what makes you think that this is ANY different than all the sysadmins who love linux/unix and have done so for years? There have been several reliable, stable window managers available that they could eaisly configure and use in the 'pointy-haired-boss"'s office.
The knee-jerk reacition to "Apple is dead" has (for just as long) been "Apple is expanding!"...I think the truth is somewhere close to "Apple is running a good business in a well-defined market niche and growing slowly" than to any of the wild predictions seen here.
The problem is _most_ consumers don't CARE if MS is an anti-competitive monopolist... they CARE if they get what they want - an OS that is pre-installed and easy for them to attempt to figure out. No matter what linux fanatics say (mods can mod this troll if they -want- to, but it's true), the truth is that linux may be user-friendly, but it's VERY picky about it's friends. This is to say that it requires more intellectual investment than most are willing to put toward it to run it properly... even systems with it pre-installed can cause some difficulty with upgrades and using their 'favorite' programs.
Bottom line is, it's no suprise, and people will keep buying from MS as long as they give them what they want, unless something else comes along. Linux cannot provide that (yet), and the masses will _alway_ stick with the status-quo until beat over the head.
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ATI has some great cards, and I think it is possible for us to see that kind of market share.... but can we get some real linux support??? The kinds of geeks who will plop down $400 for the best out there would love to see that. (Even if many games don't run under Linux, we still dual-boot!)
This is downright CREEPY. Since when does it make you suspect to file a request under the FOIA?
This isn't tinfoil hat stuff folks, this is for real.
Hmm... now there is a good idea.... convince the government that spammers are possible terrorists..... it would kill two birds with one stone!
Hmm... perhaps instead of copying they should attempt to innovate :-). I think it is a horrible mistake for OS to simply mimic Windows OR Mac... without getting into the depths of that argument other to imply that to mimic is to 'follow' only, I simply think that it would be interesting to see linux outshine not only windows but also the MAC OS in terms of UI.
Hmm.... those sharks have friggin 'januses' strapped to their foreheads....
(puts finger to corner of mouth)
A couple of thoughts/questions this brings up -
Has it been released _what_ portion (or all?) of code will Microsoft be forced to disclose?
What will this mean for software in the US (Will Linux finally be able to interface safely with NTFS, will Microsoft attempt region-basesd distributions...., etc, etc)?
I found them!
With my >>mind
-However, the serious threat lies in the sheer -ability of computer games to make people addicted -to them. I once saw a television program about -full-time gamers, who spend almost 16 hours a day -gaming. They sleep on bunkbeds in the same -building as where they play games. Even now, some -3D games are so realistic, that it is only the -control devices that give the game away (no pun -intended). Umm... you mean...like... university dorm halls? ;-)
How hard is it really to understand? _Marketing_ Noone wants to re-educate the masses on the good points of a new compression utility when _everybody_ still associates MP3s with pretty good quality sound. The consumer market is comfortable with it, the uneducated identify it with "new technology", and so-on and so forth.
....where....to.....start.... Instead of responding to this obvious (and idiotic) flamebait... I just have one thing to say.... Nick = Adolph_Hitler Attitude = Arrogant Political Party = Democrat Does this seem strange/funny/disturbing to any of the rest of you?
Oh realy?
;-) )
Let see... we went from vaccume tubes to transistors...
300 baud modems to 56.k and then to broadband...
20 Megabyte (yes megabyte) HardDrives to 500GB and beyond
Low-Grade analog tapes to CD's...
70's disco clothing/clothes ala Miami Vice to modern styles (arguably the biggest accomplishment of the 90s
Perhaps you're not over the age of... 15, or what have you (and I'm not even sure what body of work from that time period you're referring to) but saying that the last 30 years of tech research are less than compelling is amusing to me....
Compare it to most other time periods in the history of the world and I think you'll find the increased scientific progress compelling. Our understanding of the universe and our ability to adapt it has _never_ grown at the pace it has been in the last 200 years. (IMHO, of course)
Unfortunatly, yes they do. I am no doctor, but from knowledge I picked up due to personal experience with a kindey transplant patient, and a few references I found through a quick google (http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2003/B /20036915.html, http://surgery.uchicago.edu/patients/ped/p_ltc3.ht m, and so on) implies that.
Basically, because any transplanted organ is a 'foriegn' object (it _is_ from someone else's body), the body's immune system recognizes that it is not part of it's body and attacks it in much the same way it would attack an infection. Because of this, all transplant recipients (including small children) must take drugs to lower their immune system's response to such things so that the body dosen't kill the new organ.
(FYI - I already _have_ a job as a sysadmin...) Firstly - go see how many motherboard options you have when building your OWN G4 from parts.... hmm... darn. I will concede that the term "propriatry" wasn't appropriate, but rather I was referring to the lack of options in purchasing core system parts (processor, memory, etc). And although you can argue that this is part of why the Windows OS is a touch unstable, it also keeps the price of components for the PC down. Secondly - I see no answers to the question - what makes this different?
Sometimes I don't belive the mods on here.... "YAY APPLE" - (this should get this post +5 Informative) This total knee-jerk reaction is silly... sorry if you don't know how to config your box to not crash in any other OS... And furthermore, I reboot my laptop (running linux) more than your Mac Laptop, not due to instability, but b/c I like to play with it. Rebooting isn't a de facto inconvienence, especially when everything auto-loads anyway ;-).
Is this really E-Voting? Seriously - it's about a vote-card reader not reading ink from gel pens, not about some form of computer voting system.... (All of my most hated terms in geek-slang are E-******)
For your consideration:
:-)
Yes Apple is the 'caddy' of the IT world in many respects right now.... Consider the cost of an apple G5 (MSRP approx (starts at $1799) - now consider the cost of you building your OWN 64 bit PC with similar specs and such (running linux).
I would hope you see a difference in price there... I certainly did when I built my system.
Admittedly you're getting benefits such as "customer service", QA, a 'sexy' machine, blah blah blah blah.
You're also getting _propriatary_ hardware (and for the most part more expensive). As a geek on a budget who dosn't mind getting his hands dirty (and a _huge_ OS X fan) I can tell you it'll be a cold day in hell before I buy apple computer hardware. Their OS, however.....
The other quesion that this all raises is - what makes you think that this is ANY different than all the sysadmins who love linux/unix and have done so for years? There have been several reliable, stable window managers available that they could eaisly configure and use in the 'pointy-haired-boss"'s office.
The knee-jerk reacition to "Apple is dead" has (for just as long) been "Apple is expanding!"...I think the truth is somewhere close to "Apple is running a good business in a well-defined market niche and growing slowly" than to any of the wild predictions seen here.
For f#%&'s sake - You didn't even read his post!
The problem is _most_ consumers don't CARE if MS is an anti-competitive monopolist... they CARE if they get what they want - an OS that is pre-installed and easy for them to attempt to figure out. No matter what linux fanatics say (mods can mod this troll if they -want- to, but it's true), the truth is that linux may be user-friendly, but it's VERY picky about it's friends. This is to say that it requires more intellectual investment than most are willing to put toward it to run it properly... even systems with it pre-installed can cause some difficulty with upgrades and using their 'favorite' programs.
Bottom line is, it's no suprise, and people will keep buying from MS as long as they give them what they want, unless something else comes along. Linux cannot provide that (yet), and the masses will _alway_ stick with the status-quo until beat over the head.