No, no, this is NOT off-topic. You are NOT using your imagination and mental faculties.
You fail to see the clearly illustrative IRONIC point here: The government and law enforcement are reigning over people and reigning in individual control over privacy data and demanding more access.
The government agencies are trying to clean up the public and yet don't even have their OWN HOUSE in order. Have you missed the subtle irony?
Yet, they are NOT doing much to protect THEMSELVES from the obvious: an air marhall presenting credentials in a lobby or an air terminal in the presence of WHO KNOWS.
Be a little bit more judicious with your slasher god powers and pay attention to the links, however tenuous they may be....
Realize that the demand for "Net data" is not the ONLY avenue by which public and private people are at risk.
"Anonymity of the air marshals in our No. 1 concern," Adams said. "But the boarding of air marshals is set by federal regulations, which Congress sets."
Talk about CONgress being the opposite of PROgress...
"WASHINGTON - More needs to be done to ensure the anonymity of federal air marshals, says a critical new report Congress will look into next week.
The report also faults the service for requiring marshals to stay at designated hotels and show their credentials upon checking in. It said that in one instance, the Sheraton Fort Lauderdale Airport Hotel in Florida designated the service "company of the month" because of the number of rooms it had reserved at the hotel."
How LAME can the security services policies BE?
Requiring the officers and marshals to present credentials upon arriving at check in. Just a few years ago, this was brought up about agents and air marshals showing their credentials upon check-in at airports, too. I suppose this was to get them past security or in preferential seats or to help them scan the planes when they boarded fresh-boardings or layover/connecting flights, or maybe to spell the long-flight marshals.
Man, when will the station administrators and chiefs or whatever they are called learn?
worship a god or support or praise any damned mortal being who invokes the name of said god that ostensibly calls for or turns a blind to the invasion of a land, the murder of any number of people, whether it's a US, UK, Terrorist, terrorits, pirate, oligarch, or other kind of regime or power.
Any "God" or "god" that guturns a blind eye to this kind of activity is UNWORTHY of praise and it AND its followers or adherents ought to take a flying leap.
god of money, god of power, god of skin color, god of heritage, god of righteousness, god of any damned thing a frail, ought-to-be-time-machine-unborn idiot humans want...
I don't expect life to be a bed of roses, but I'm SICK of assholes invoking "God" and "god" as their pilots, co-pilots and assignment writers. No decent got can allow this infinite bullshit to continue. I just wish the REAL god/God will come sweep out the murders of any ilk and perform a "history reset" for those who are tired of being dragged into morality, legal, ethical and other issues.
NO (Hu)MAN on this PLANET speaks FOR me. He/she may command, render, torture, de-limb, and do other things to make the remainder of my life miserable, but I do NOT condone bloodshed, hijacker, propagand, and all the other crap in the name "preservin' our way of life". I don't believe in or condone the use of "god" or "GOD" for acts of terrorism or Terrorism, either. But, I firmly believe in individuals doing ON THEIR OWN TURF what EVER it takes to kick out invaders. The Native Americans were apparently to docile and not being looked out for by "God"...
PLAY NICE: Be DEfensive, strong, and fair... not OFfensive, crude, murderous, and vile and contemptible
Undoing mods for posting a comment to a thread different to that already modded is kinda lame....
I gave -- but had to give up -- a mod point to:
But they're still getting spam emails somehow..
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by Channard (693317) Alter Relationship on Friday May 19, @03:41PM (#15369458) Wait, that's how terrorism is being funded. By Nigerian bankers. Damn you, Mr Obawutube - next time you send a missive asking for help getting six million dollars out of the country and offering half of it in return for someone's help, try adding a 'Are you a member of a Al Queda' Yes [ ] No [ ]' at the bottom.
=====================NOW MY COMMENTS HERE:
"If insurgents are using untraceable cell phones to plan attacks, it would seem the simple answer is to have the cellular network stop accepting calls from disposable phones. Either the number is registered to someone, or you can't make a call with it. Then we can give that NSA terrorist phone call pattern matching program a real test!"
Check this out: this could start here in the USA...
When you go to pay your cell phone bill or to purchase a phone there will be embedded in the counter a sensitive microphone to take a sample of your voice. If you pay by credit or automated means, there will be an "interruption" in your ability to pay, requiring you to "call" the office to resolve the problem, since the local payment stores could be told "have the customer call the office".
When you discuss resolution of the problem, your voice will be sampled that way, too. If your name and voice later on show up as "another person" or of a different ID, then no matter what IDs you used before, you will SUDDENLY become a person of interest.
See, if you pay legitimately as Johnny B. Citizen, and want to pay for a friend, and use a friend's ID and account info (say Johnny is in jail, or the hospital, or whatever, but Johnny and you are close and trust each other with one another's life, so you know his/her passwords and such..) so you don't have to waste time with "I'm Steve, but I'm going to pay Johnny's bill with his information" and so on.
BUT, if you are Mr/Mrs/Ms "anoymo" with a disposable phone, and you are BUYING a prepaid anonymous phone, THOSE stores could be prime wired-mike places: you talk, you set up the phone (think of those service places where you get "For (option 1) Saaay or prehhss "HWUNN"; for (option 2) saay or prehhs "TWO"...) and your voice, unbeknownst to you, is recorded.
Maybe this is good good for zeroing in on urban hoodlums and such (crack, meth, heroin and other dealers) or your white collar guys (stocks and securities dealers...).
Slight Segue:
BUT this would be VERY useful to use against the in-uniform abusers of tax payer trust: those who "misappropriate" night vision gear, Claymore mines, M-16s, 9mm Berettas, parachutes, detection equipment, military radios, and more. At SOME point, these thieves have to get on a phone or a computer. Some are dumb enough to use their own phones or calling cards from pay phones. THOSE can be caught eventually, and bring down their nodes of the black market of stolen military gear.
As for Terrorists and terrorists, the smart ones will relay their messages through no-record, no-trouble, no-clue intermediaries or those they can grab, indoc, compel to relay messages, but whom they NEVER, EVER introduce to the actual apparatus. They don't eve NEED to know what is being communicated. If it's in local-lingual code, or rotating code, the NSA and CIA will have one HELLUVA time trying to crack it. IF it's never reused, or is used inconsistently so as to not compromise past activities, the NSA and any other will be banging their heads against the wall in rage and frustration.
Big/Loopy Segue:
In the end, all this will go back to TWO things, minimially:
1: QUIT FUCKING trying to be Masters of the Universe 2: QUIT USURPING or OVERWHELMING cultures that express selective interest or outright ambivalence toward the U
"The UK government is (if this report is credible, accurate and not sensationalist...) obviously foolishly overstepping its bounds in that it has no capabilities to protect the populace from spammers, attackers and crackers-- short of destroying or shutting down the Internet and tributary devices..."
"I only hope the government will listen to that reasoning."
Not only that, but what about the fact that government can't even protect the public that well. If WE cannot protect our own machines, then our devices and networks will only serve to complicate the Trojan, worm, and virus problems.
The UK government is obviously foolishly overstepping its bounds in that it has no capabilities to protect the populace from spammers, attackers and crackers-- short of destroying or shutting down the Internet and tributary devices...
It's more than that: This is about the US trying to discredit a major or important Chinese PC manufacturer. It's an attempt to erode or undermine China's forays into selling to more governments. It's to deflect attention away from the US's own activities in this espionage area.
Now, it would be very interesting if IBM took a 50% stake in Lenovo and caused a hankering in Progr.. ummm, Congress and got the computers flowing again (assuming the ban is in effect at this time...)
The disinformation and misinformation aspect is probably the best way to go, short of all out trade wars. Pissing off China will be very painful. They are growing, and if they can cause some or many of the stronger Asian countries to coalesce around THEM instead of suckling on the US tit, then it will be PAYBACK, US! Stop trying to RULE the WORLD. WORK WITH IT, goddammit!
Now, I think China has perfect justification to renege on gates and mshaft.
TOUCHE!
These power-mongering cretins on office think they are sooooo smart.
Really, cutting off Lenovo like that means that if China wants to continue seeing that company exist and try to profit, they'll have to just channel those potential sales to their own military infrastructure. Maybe they can "synergize" their own country JUST by feeding off Lenovo, selling at low prices, and then hoping for the best.
Everyone, scan this article for the comments on Russia and Iraq about the copiers and line printers.
Really, why should China honor an agreement with Mr. Backdoor when the US is accusing China or a Chinese company of being a threat. I can see trade wars... degradation to conflict...
Maybe China can up the ante by talking with South Corea to infuse more food and oil aid to North Corea and the three speed up reunification of the two Coreas so that more regional trade flows through Corea like it did hundreds of years ago. Then, China could begin to dispense with dependence upon the USA. Of course, Japan will have to be appeased, but that shouldn't be TOOO difficult if they want to be part of the regional computer and electronics trade...
Not that they are lacking in intelligence and reconnaissance capabilities (since I would expect any aliens approaching earth to be much smarter than wasting their time with us at this level of so-called advancement...), but ifff they landed here and said "Take us to your leader", I would probably take them to the nearest sanitarium or to the waste treatment plant.
Then I would say, "the flotsam in most national capitols passing for human excuses for leaders are only a cut above this shit beneath your feet. So; nothing to see here; please move along, otherwise those wily, conniving, crafty, exploitative human lookalikes will try to screw you over for you technology".
But, fi you're looking for for them because you need organic sanitary pads, food, fertilizer, rendition torture candidates...
(Oops I think I hear the government agents coming for me...)
WHEW!!! I thought they were going to say it was so recent at to conjure thoughts of "Yessturrday... there was a breeding that was meannnt ttoooo beee... SUDDenly, I'm not half the man I yooossuu toobee..."
Phew... Don't have any more hair today than I did yesterday...
WHILE you are at it, why not include diplomats and their luggage and crypto, too???!!! Oh, but NOOOO, they are privileged and part of they spy and brinkmanship script and to some extent are more, umm, trustworthy...
Yeh, right...
Frickin masters of the universe... US and UK governments and a few others just seem unable to let go of slipping empire...
UK, detach yourselves before the purportedly-coming whirlpool sucks you in, too. You do NOT have to fight or pick a fight you can walk away from.
Do NOT be so obsessed with empire, kingdom, and imperialism... Those days should be OVER with.
Why should a person hand over the keys to their encryption if they are NOT officially a suspect nor TOLD they are one? You CANNOT and NEED NOT KNOW EVERYthing, goddammit. IT is NOT your domain or purview. GET OFF IT, OK? DAMN, out-of-control-tax-funded functionaries...
Fix FOREIGN POLICY and MUCH of the VIOLENCE will go AWAY! Stop propping up defense cartels and rogue "democratic" "leaders".
Was so heavy into my rant that I forgot to include my other two suspicions:
-- the ISPs are getting marketing dollars by deploying the disks, and when each one is installed, it calls back to mshaft to verify that the ISP is entitled to marketing dollars, which then enables mshaft to bolster their OS useage counts (which can be negated or deflated when users successfully log in without the disk ever being installed, which means an employee NOT pushing the disk installation might lose commissions or deprive the ISP of marketing dollars....)
or,
-- the ISPs use the disk to gain access to unwary users' machines, and then use the validated information or sell pieces or all of the information (maybe de-identified?) to "third party partners" and such
As for those damned disks, I say if you SHIP the modem to the subscriber, and it is logically assumed there is no cloning of the MAC address, and the machine is directly connected to the C/M or DSL modem, then WHY WHY WHY on Earth is it a **MUST** that the end user install that disk? WHY?
I guess gates and henchmen are going to put a full-on press against the ISP, now, or again... Sounds like ripe anti-trust/anti-competitive territory.
US Government: This is MORE fodder for you in your quest to put a clamp in ms ass. Use this for ALL it's worth!
Until Linux/Open Source is a genuine WMD or bigger threat to the world than windoze is, I will NOT give up my OS of choice, and nor should any other individual, company, or government....
(There are SOME people who think I'm anti-government, that I'm an evil threat; far from it. I say what I think is right, and I reFUSE to suffer political bullshit just because some politico is afraid of losing eminence or turf or whatever. I call it like I see it. I am anti-effing-stupid-government, not anti-government. But, I suppose someone will try to explain that the two distinctions are by definition functionally equal and therefore I am still "totally" anti-government. WHEW!!!!)
Now, where o-h hwhere are those rit, lith, umm, chlo, umm.... PILLS???!!!!
adjusts EM-shielded strontium-coated tin foil hat...
I am suspecting that the ISPs who INSISTS the newbie/uninformed windoze users and Mac users install that ISPs crackware CD masquerading as an 'experience enhancing/improving' software tool is really just a Trojan to facilitate later offline decryption.
Just call them up. Make up your own scenarios. But, if LINUX users DON'T need the damned CD, why do windoze and Mac users need it. If you posit that you rebuild your machine every 6 weeks and you always lose your ISPs disk, or broke it by mistake, do you still need it? some of them will say, well, no, not ALWAYS, or no you don't NEED it...
Why is there no lobby against this bald-face lying on the part of ISPs?
Put Stallone and Bronson in a movie/vid together and task them with hunting down the spammers.. Arm S & B with 25,000 lb crossbows with hollow-point, razor tip eros, ummm, arrows for Sylvester and tasers, sulfuric acid and a reduced-recoil magnum for Charles.
Or, (ummm quasi-obligatory Chuck Norris.....) sick Chuck N on them... have him server the spammers their ass on a Timex platter... He'll reset their asses so fast with his swift c-breaking kick that the next time we see these cons they'll be hailing "Hello Humans, where we find "the Chuck"?"
So, if a Caucasian impregnated her, would the act have been white on rice?
If she took the fetus to term/delivery, would it be brown rice or "dirty rice" (think ethnic foods...)
And, I happened to have a high school schoolmate named "Gene Rice"... The things technology can do with/to names...
And, for a REALLY tacky one, I'd hate to be the admin official to advocate dropping EMP or grid-killing devices over Zulus... That would be REAL shocka-zulu
(Ducks for flying chairs, ordnance, taser darts...)
Oh, I just realized that an "8-mile" trail of debris is nothing. Suppose they flew that plan at 180 mph, enough to stay up-for a brief while.
Well, 60mph is 1 mile per minute. So, 180 mph is 3 miles per minute. If the interceptors WERE armed with live ammo and strafed the plan solidly for 1 minute (around
Well, the F-15 carries/carried the 20-mm M61A1 Vulcan six-barrelled cannon, which seems to be supplied with about 512 rounds of ammo (appears the F-18 has 570 rds, the F-16A had the same gun with about 511 rds)
Anyway, that gun is *capable* of firing 6,600 rounds per minute, meaning about 110 rounds per SECOND are/could be being expended. That's only about 4.65 seconds per per-second burst until the ammo drum is expended/depleted. Even if TWO F-16 are strafing to scare but not to down, I find it hard to believe they would NOT bring the 757/747 down. So,...
3 miles per minute flying speed, shot up over 3 minutes, and then witnessed to hit the ground 2 or more minutes later makes me think that some of that debris floated down to the ground. Some of it may have be ripped off by airspeeds after structural compromise over a 10-15 mile distance (I don't have blackbox or other transcripts, so...).
But, I've pretty much been of the thought that the PA flight was gunned down, now I think the pilots half-heartedly and painfully strafed it to not outright KILL the planeload of people. They probably hoped to scare the cockpit controllers (crew, terrorists, or flight-experienced passengers) into bringing the thing down. OTOH, they might have just emptied cannons into it. I don't recall talk about anyone on the ground witnessing missiles being fired... been a while so I can't say. But, I suspect any F-15/F-16-fired missile would bring the plane down in a big ball of fire, if it's an impact seeker vs prox fuse. But, with a plane load of fuel, many many times that of a typical fighter plane, no armor, no evasive capabilities, and no flares (Israel's El Al planes have chaff/flare/decoys: remember the one that was shot at, but it puffed out decoys and the falling flares distracted/seduced/decoyed the missile/s into the building below? Or so went the theory about whey the A/A missile fired at a "commercial" plane dove away from the plane and struck buildings instead....
1. The security tapes could have such extremely high resolution that they cannot divulge it; obfuscating it to downgrade the classification might lend to or lead to more comments of "doctored footage", an argument which the Pintuhgun would lose anyway...
2. This is an interesting point. Even if A/F ONE or A/F Two were flying in the area, there would be escorts and airspace clearance, so a PAX plane diversion might have been in order, but since PAX/COMAIR were (or, seemed to be) in normal flight regimes of takeoff and landing, it is interesting. OTOH, with so much commercial aviation and private a/c, is it inconceivable that stray aircraft could get to to p/g/. DISCLAIMER: I don't remember the timeline between WTC 1&2 strikes vs Pentagon. If it was more than 30 minutes, then HELL YESS, the Pentagon should have been RINGED with interceptors and ground-to-air a/a missiles.
3. Even in the movie Towering Inferno and the others, I don't think ANYONE posited the idea of roof-top generator fuel tanks dropping fuel down the elevator shafts and seeping into ventilation plenums. So, from a storyline or movie script, it might have faced the editing block if written, say in May 2001 and put on the Internet, I suppose. But, the planes both were fairly tanked up for the day of flight and it appears the wings remained in each building and I believe one plane banked enough to ensure its fuel load got into several floors. JP-5 or whatever these planes use is quite flammable. So, with the electrics in the building, the emergency stair shafts, the busted fire zone doors... compromised structure, and ensuring fire and explosion must have made for one HELLUVA air shaft to disperse fuel and burn the core out like it did.
4. Yeh, if insurance rates didn't get adjusted, then they WILL be if another WTC happens. But, if they DID adjust them, it would be tantamount to expressing complete and UTTER lack of faith the government and the defense apparatus. That would be a VERY bad signal to send across the country and around the world. Surely Shanghai or Taipei or Beijing or some other place where the Terrorists DON'T mess around would have shunted Wall Street aside.
5. 8-mile trail of debris? WOW I'd forgotten about that... I suppose that by THIS point in the time line of events, that the F-16 (F-16's right?, not F-15s?... I can't remember, but i know F-18 and F-14 are Navy, and though those operate from Patuxent, MD and other bases and stations in the area, I think the USAF or ANG would control that airspace at that moment....let me know if I'm mistaken or off mark...) may have been strafing the plane to "suggest" those in control land the plane, but not intentionally trying to down it. If there is an EIGHT-MILE trail of debris, tho, that would be a LOT of plane. Even if you shot up a 747 or 757 enough to leave a recognizable 8-mile trail of debris, I'd suspect some weird physics, since I don't think (I'm no engineer, BTW) they could remain aloft in a smooth, semi-stable flight regime if the ailerons of flaps or fuselage were shot up. Those 20mm rounds would sure destroy some control lines, puncture the wings, or spontaneously disable the craft. Also, unless the F-16s can disrupt cellular comms, then those pax aboard would have been detailing that bit to the 9/11 infrastructure operators, right?
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No, no, this is NOT off-topic. You are NOT using your imagination and mental faculties.
You fail to see the clearly illustrative IRONIC point here: The government and law enforcement are reigning over people and reigning in individual control over privacy data and demanding more access.
The government agencies are trying to clean up the public and yet don't even have their OWN HOUSE in order. Have you missed the subtle irony?
Yet, they are NOT doing much to protect THEMSELVES from the obvious: an air marhall presenting credentials in a lobby or an air terminal in the presence of WHO KNOWS.
Be a little bit more judicious with your slasher god powers and pay attention to the links, however tenuous they may be....
Realize that the demand for "Net data" is not the ONLY avenue by which public and private people are at risk.
Oh, forgot this:
"Anonymity of the air marshals in our No. 1 concern," Adams said. "But the boarding of air marshals is set by federal regulations, which Congress sets."
Talk about CONgress being the opposite of PROgress...
sighs....
Check THIS OUT:
i r_marshals
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060520/ap_on_go_co/a
"WASHINGTON - More needs to be done to ensure the anonymity of federal air marshals, says a critical new report Congress will look into next week.
The report also faults the service for requiring marshals to stay at designated hotels and show their credentials upon checking in. It said that in one instance, the Sheraton Fort Lauderdale Airport Hotel in Florida designated the service "company of the month" because of the number of rooms it had reserved at the hotel."
How LAME can the security services policies BE?
Requiring the officers and marshals to present credentials upon arriving at check in. Just a few years ago, this was brought up about agents and air marshals showing their credentials upon check-in at airports, too. I suppose this was to get them past security or in preferential seats or to help them scan the planes when they boarded fresh-boardings or layover/connecting flights, or maybe to spell the long-flight marshals.
Man, when will the station administrators and chiefs or whatever they are called learn?
"...Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own..."
Resistance... is FUTILE.
You... will be... assimi..lated
Between the Borg hello message and the report of this "crawing sensation", I feel shivers down my spine...
I will ******N E V E R *****
worship a god or support or praise any damned mortal being who invokes the name of said god that ostensibly calls for or turns a blind to the invasion of a land, the murder of any number of people, whether it's a US, UK, Terrorist, terrorits, pirate, oligarch, or other kind of regime or power.
Any "God" or "god" that guturns a blind eye to this kind of activity is UNWORTHY of praise and it AND its followers or adherents ought to take a flying leap.
god of money,
god of power,
god of skin color,
god of heritage,
god of righteousness,
god of any damned thing a frail, ought-to-be-time-machine-unborn idiot humans want...
I don't expect life to be a bed of roses, but I'm SICK of assholes invoking "God" and "god" as their pilots, co-pilots and assignment writers. No decent got can allow this infinite bullshit to continue. I just wish the REAL god/God will come sweep out the murders of any ilk and perform a "history reset" for those who are tired of being dragged into morality, legal, ethical and other issues.
NO (Hu)MAN on this PLANET speaks FOR me. He/she may command, render, torture, de-limb, and do other things to make the remainder of my life miserable, but I do NOT condone bloodshed, hijacker, propagand, and all the other crap in the name "preservin' our way of life". I don't believe in or condone the use of "god" or "GOD" for acts of terrorism or Terrorism, either. But, I firmly believe in individuals doing ON THEIR OWN TURF what EVER it takes to kick out invaders. The Native Americans were apparently to docile and not being looked out for by "God"...
PLAY NICE: Be DEfensive, strong, and fair... not OFfensive, crude, murderous, and vile and contemptible
Undoing mods for posting a comment to a thread different to that already modded is kinda lame....
I gave -- but had to give up -- a mod point to:
But they're still getting spam emails somehow..
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by Channard (693317) Alter Relationship on Friday May 19, @03:41PM (#15369458)
Wait, that's how terrorism is being funded. By Nigerian bankers. Damn you, Mr Obawutube - next time you send a missive asking for help getting six million dollars out of the country and offering half of it in return for someone's help, try adding a 'Are you a member of a Al Queda' Yes [ ] No [ ]' at the bottom.
=====================NOW MY COMMENTS HERE:
"If insurgents are using untraceable cell phones to plan attacks, it would seem the simple answer is to have the cellular network stop accepting calls from disposable phones. Either the number is registered to someone, or you can't make a call with it. Then we can give that NSA terrorist phone call pattern matching program a real test!"
Check this out: this could start here in the USA...
When you go to pay your cell phone bill or to purchase a phone there will be embedded in the counter a sensitive microphone to take a sample of your voice. If you pay by credit or automated means, there will be an "interruption" in your ability to pay, requiring you to "call" the office to resolve the problem, since the local payment stores could be told "have the customer call the office".
When you discuss resolution of the problem, your voice will be sampled that way, too. If your name and voice later on show up as "another person" or of a different ID, then no matter what IDs you used before, you will SUDDENLY become a person of interest.
See, if you pay legitimately as Johnny B. Citizen, and want to pay for a friend, and use a friend's ID and account info (say Johnny is in jail, or the hospital, or whatever, but Johnny and you are close and trust each other with one another's life, so you know his/her passwords and such..) so you don't have to waste time with "I'm Steve, but I'm going to pay Johnny's bill with his information" and so on.
BUT, if you are Mr/Mrs/Ms "anoymo" with a disposable phone, and you are BUYING a prepaid anonymous phone, THOSE stores could be prime wired-mike places: you talk, you set up the phone (think of those service places where you get "For (option 1) Saaay or prehhss "HWUNN"; for (option 2) saay or prehhs "TWO"...) and your voice, unbeknownst to you, is recorded.
Maybe this is good good for zeroing in on urban hoodlums and such (crack, meth, heroin and other dealers) or your white collar guys (stocks and securities dealers...).
Slight Segue:
BUT this would be VERY useful to use against the in-uniform abusers of tax payer trust: those who "misappropriate" night vision gear, Claymore mines, M-16s, 9mm Berettas, parachutes, detection equipment, military radios, and more. At SOME point, these thieves have to get on a phone or a computer. Some are dumb enough to use their own phones or calling cards from pay phones. THOSE can be caught eventually, and bring down their nodes of the black market of stolen military gear.
As for Terrorists and terrorists, the smart ones will relay their messages through no-record, no-trouble, no-clue intermediaries or those they can grab, indoc, compel to relay messages, but whom they NEVER, EVER introduce to the actual apparatus. They don't eve NEED to know what is being communicated. If it's in local-lingual code, or rotating code, the NSA and CIA will have one HELLUVA time trying to crack it. IF it's never reused, or is used inconsistently so as to not compromise past activities, the NSA and any other will be banging their heads against the wall in rage and frustration.
Big/Loopy Segue:
In the end, all this will go back to TWO things, minimially:
1: QUIT FUCKING trying to be Masters of the Universe
2: QUIT USURPING or OVERWHELMING cultures that express selective interest or outright ambivalence toward the U
Well, Apple better get TRULY creative...
Or,
Well, Apple better TRULY get Creative...
DAMN!
I meant to say:
"The UK government is (if this report is credible, accurate and not sensationalist...) obviously foolishly overstepping its bounds in that it has no capabilities to protect the populace from spammers, attackers and crackers-- short of destroying or shutting down the Internet and tributary devices..."
"I only hope the government will listen to that reasoning."
Not only that, but what about the fact that government can't even protect the public that well. If WE cannot protect our own machines, then our devices and networks will only serve to complicate the Trojan, worm, and virus problems.
The UK government is obviously foolishly overstepping its bounds in that it has no capabilities to protect the populace from spammers, attackers and crackers-- short of destroying or shutting down the Internet and tributary devices...
It's more than that: This is about the US trying to discredit a major or important Chinese PC manufacturer. It's an attempt to erode or undermine China's forays into selling to more governments. It's to deflect attention away from the US's own activities in this espionage area.
At least, that's what **IIII*** think...
BINGO!!!!
Now, it would be very interesting if IBM took a 50% stake in Lenovo and caused a hankering in Progr.. ummm, Congress and got the computers flowing again (assuming the ban is in effect at this time...)
The disinformation and misinformation aspect is probably the best way to go, short of all out trade wars. Pissing off China will be very painful. They are growing, and if they can cause some or many of the stronger Asian countries to coalesce around THEM instead of suckling on the US tit, then it will be PAYBACK, US! Stop trying to RULE the WORLD. WORK WITH IT, goddammit!
e...
Now, I think China has perfect justification to renege on gates and mshaft.
TOUCHE!
These power-mongering cretins on office think they are sooooo smart.
Really, cutting off Lenovo like that means that if China wants to continue seeing that company exist and try to profit, they'll have to just channel those potential sales to their own military infrastructure. Maybe they can "synergize" their own country JUST by feeding off Lenovo, selling at low prices, and then hoping for the best.
Everyone, scan this article for the comments on Russia and Iraq about the copiers and line printers.
Really, why should China honor an agreement with Mr. Backdoor when the US is accusing China or a Chinese company of being a threat. I can see trade wars... degradation to conflict...
Maybe China can up the ante by talking with South Corea to infuse more food and oil aid to North Corea and the three speed up reunification of the two Coreas so that more regional trade flows through Corea like it did hundreds of years ago. Then, China could begin to dispense with dependence upon the USA. Of course, Japan will have to be appeased, but that shouldn't be TOOO difficult if they want to be part of the regional computer and electronics trade...
Not that they are lacking in intelligence and reconnaissance capabilities (since I would expect any aliens approaching earth to be much smarter than wasting their time with us at this level of so-called advancement...), but ifff they landed here and said "Take us to your leader", I would probably take them to the nearest sanitarium or to the waste treatment plant.
Then I would say, "the flotsam in most national capitols passing for human excuses for leaders are only a cut above this shit beneath your feet. So; nothing to see here; please move along, otherwise those wily, conniving, crafty, exploitative human lookalikes will try to screw you over for you technology".
But, fi you're looking for for them because you need organic sanitary pads, food, fertilizer, rendition torture candidates...
(Oops I think I hear the government agents coming for me...)
(Twiddling fingers like Dr. EVIL)... FIFTY-FIVE ***BEELYUN*** DOLLARS!
(Picking themselves up from floor, ms lies again and chortles) THAT KIND OF MONEY DOESN'T EVEN EXIST!
Maybe Vista won't see the light of day...
WHEW!!! I thought they were going to say it was so recent at to conjure thoughts of "Yessturrday... there was a breeding that was meannnt ttoooo beee... SUDDenly, I'm not half the man I yooossuu toobee..."
Phew... Don't have any more hair today than I did yesterday...
WHILE you are at it, why not include diplomats and their luggage and crypto, too???!!! Oh, but NOOOO, they are privileged and part of they spy and brinkmanship script and to some extent are more, umm, trustworthy...
Yeh, right...
Frickin masters of the universe... US and UK governments and a few others just seem unable to let go of slipping empire...
UK, detach yourselves before the purportedly-coming whirlpool sucks you in, too. You do NOT have to fight or pick a fight you can walk away from.
Do NOT be so obsessed with empire, kingdom, and imperialism... Those days should be OVER with.
Why should a person hand over the keys to their encryption if they are NOT officially a suspect nor TOLD they are one? You CANNOT and NEED NOT KNOW EVERYthing, goddammit. IT is NOT your domain or purview. GET OFF IT, OK? DAMN, out-of-control-tax-funded functionaries...
Fix FOREIGN POLICY and MUCH of the VIOLENCE will go AWAY! Stop propping up defense cartels and rogue "democratic" "leaders".
Was so heavy into my rant that I forgot to include my other two suspicions:
-- the ISPs are getting marketing dollars by deploying the disks, and when each one is installed, it calls back to mshaft to verify that the ISP is entitled to marketing dollars, which then enables mshaft to bolster their OS useage counts (which can be negated or deflated when users successfully log in without the disk ever being installed, which means an employee NOT pushing the disk installation might lose commissions or deprive the ISP of marketing dollars....)
or,
-- the ISPs use the disk to gain access to unwary users' machines, and then use the validated information or sell pieces or all of the information (maybe de-identified?) to "third party partners" and such
As for those damned disks, I say if you SHIP the modem to the subscriber, and it is logically assumed there is no cloning of the MAC address, and the machine is directly connected to the C/M or DSL modem, then WHY WHY WHY on Earth is it a **MUST** that the end user install that disk? WHY?
I guess gates and henchmen are going to put a full-on press against the ISP, now, or again... Sounds like ripe anti-trust/anti-competitive territory.
US Government: This is MORE fodder for you in your quest to put a clamp in ms ass. Use this for ALL it's worth!
Until Linux/Open Source is a genuine WMD or bigger threat to the world than windoze is, I will NOT give up my OS of choice, and nor should any other individual, company, or government....
(There are SOME people who think I'm anti-government, that I'm an evil threat; far from it. I say what I think is right, and I reFUSE to suffer political bullshit just because some politico is afraid of losing eminence or turf or whatever. I call it like I see it. I am anti-effing-stupid-government, not anti-government. But, I suppose someone will try to explain that the two distinctions are by definition functionally equal and therefore I am still "totally" anti-government. WHEW!!!!)
Now, where o-h hwhere are those rit, lith, umm, chlo, umm.... PILLS???!!!!
adjusts EM-shielded strontium-coated tin foil hat...
I am suspecting that the ISPs who INSISTS the newbie/uninformed windoze users and Mac users install that ISPs crackware CD masquerading as an 'experience enhancing/improving' software tool is really just a Trojan to facilitate later offline decryption.
Just call them up. Make up your own scenarios. But, if LINUX users DON'T need the damned CD, why do windoze and Mac users need it. If you posit that you rebuild your machine every 6 weeks and you always lose your ISPs disk, or broke it by mistake, do you still need it? some of them will say, well, no, not ALWAYS, or no you don't NEED it...
Why is there no lobby against this bald-face lying on the part of ISPs?
It's needed so that the GE proponents' backers can undermine thousands of years of cultural attachment to rice.
Just think, if someday they get to non-generational rice... like non-generational fruits and vegetables.
BTW, how often to you find oranges with seeds? (Not by seeking them out or asking for them, but just by buying what is on display.)
Put Stallone and Bronson in a movie/vid together and task them with hunting down the spammers.. Arm S & B with 25,000 lb crossbows with hollow-point, razor tip eros, ummm, arrows for Sylvester and tasers, sulfuric acid and a reduced-recoil magnum for Charles.
Or, (ummm quasi-obligatory Chuck Norris.....) sick Chuck N on them... have him server the spammers their ass on a Timex platter... He'll reset their asses so fast with his swift c-breaking kick that the next time we see these cons they'll be hailing "Hello Humans, where we find "the Chuck"?"
So, if a Caucasian impregnated her, would the act have been white on rice?
If she took the fetus to term/delivery, would it be brown rice or "dirty rice" (think ethnic foods...)
And, I happened to have a high school schoolmate named "Gene Rice"... The things technology can do with/to names...
And, for a REALLY tacky one, I'd hate to be the admin official to advocate dropping EMP or grid-killing devices over Zulus... That would be REAL shocka-zulu
(Ducks for flying chairs, ordnance, taser darts...)
LOL slash image word: accords
stating the obvious?
It's pretty obvious that, as you say/repeat, phones and computers are not good matches for replacing computers.
Seems there article writer stood to benefit from gates' co-authoring, and gates gets to put his name against something in wide print...
Oh, I just realized that an "8-mile" trail of debris is nothing. Suppose they flew that plan at 180 mph, enough to stay up-for a brief while.
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Well, 60mph is 1 mile per minute. So, 180 mph is 3 miles per minute. If the interceptors WERE armed with live ammo and strafed the plan solidly for 1 minute (around
Well, the F-15 carries/carried the 20-mm M61A1 Vulcan six-barrelled cannon, which seems to be supplied with about 512 rounds of ammo (appears the F-18 has 570 rds, the F-16A had the same gun with about 511 rds)
See:
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/arm/arm8.htm
Anyway, that gun is *capable* of firing 6,600 rounds per minute, meaning about 110 rounds per SECOND are/could be being expended. That's only about 4.65 seconds per per-second burst until the ammo drum is expended/depleted. Even if TWO F-16 are strafing to scare but not to down, I find it hard to believe they would NOT bring the 757/747 down. So,
3 miles per minute flying speed, shot up over 3 minutes, and then witnessed to hit the ground 2 or more minutes later makes me think that some of that debris floated down to the ground. Some of it may have be ripped off by airspeeds after structural compromise over a 10-15 mile distance (I don't have blackbox or other transcripts, so...).
But, I've pretty much been of the thought that the PA flight was gunned down, now I think the pilots half-heartedly and painfully strafed it to not outright KILL the planeload of people. They probably hoped to scare the cockpit controllers (crew, terrorists, or flight-experienced passengers) into bringing the thing down. OTOH, they might have just emptied cannons into it. I don't recall talk about anyone on the ground witnessing missiles being fired... been a while so I can't say. But, I suspect any F-15/F-16-fired missile would bring the plane down in a big ball of fire, if it's an impact seeker vs prox fuse. But, with a plane load of fuel, many many times that of a typical fighter plane, no armor, no evasive capabilities, and no flares (Israel's El Al planes have chaff/flare/decoys: remember the one that was shot at, but it puffed out decoys and the falling flares distracted/seduced/decoyed the missile/s into the building below? Or so went the theory about whey the A/A missile fired at a "commercial" plane dove away from the plane and struck buildings instead....
whew... enough of this thread for me, I think...
1. The security tapes could have such extremely high resolution that they cannot divulge it; obfuscating it to downgrade the classification might lend to or lead to more comments of "doctored footage", an argument which the Pintuhgun would lose anyway...
2. This is an interesting point. Even if A/F ONE or A/F Two were flying in the area, there would be escorts and airspace clearance, so a PAX plane diversion might have been in order, but since PAX/COMAIR were (or, seemed to be) in normal flight regimes of takeoff and landing, it is interesting. OTOH, with so much commercial aviation and private a/c, is it inconceivable that stray aircraft could get to to p/g/. DISCLAIMER: I don't remember the timeline between WTC 1&2 strikes vs Pentagon. If it was more than 30 minutes, then HELL YESS, the Pentagon should have been RINGED with interceptors and ground-to-air a/a missiles.
3. Even in the movie Towering Inferno and the others, I don't think ANYONE posited the idea of roof-top generator fuel tanks dropping fuel down the elevator shafts and seeping into ventilation plenums. So, from a storyline or movie script, it might have faced the editing block if written, say in May 2001 and put on the Internet, I suppose. But, the planes both were fairly tanked up for the day of flight and it appears the wings remained in each building and I believe one plane banked enough to ensure its fuel load got into several floors. JP-5 or whatever these planes use is quite flammable. So, with the electrics in the building, the emergency stair shafts, the busted fire zone doors... compromised structure, and ensuring fire and explosion must have made for one HELLUVA air shaft to disperse fuel and burn the core out like it did.
4. Yeh, if insurance rates didn't get adjusted, then they WILL be if another WTC happens. But, if they DID adjust them, it would be tantamount to expressing complete and UTTER lack of faith the government and the defense apparatus. That would be a VERY bad signal to send across the country and around the world. Surely Shanghai or Taipei or Beijing or some other place where the Terrorists DON'T mess around would have shunted Wall Street aside.
5. 8-mile trail of debris? WOW I'd forgotten about that... I suppose that by THIS point in the time line of events, that the F-16 (F-16's right?, not F-15s?... I can't remember, but i know F-18 and F-14 are Navy, and though those operate from Patuxent, MD and other bases and stations in the area, I think the USAF or ANG would control that airspace at that moment....let me know if I'm mistaken or off mark...) may have been strafing the plane to "suggest" those in control land the plane, but not intentionally trying to down it. If there is an EIGHT-MILE trail of debris, tho, that would be a LOT of plane. Even if you shot up a 747 or 757 enough to leave a recognizable 8-mile trail of debris, I'd suspect some weird physics, since I don't think (I'm no engineer, BTW) they could remain aloft in a smooth, semi-stable flight regime if the ailerons of flaps or fuselage were shot up. Those 20mm rounds would sure destroy some control lines, puncture the wings, or spontaneously disable the craft. Also, unless the F-16s can disrupt cellular comms, then those pax aboard would have been detailing that bit to the 9/11 infrastructure operators, right?
Just my own ideas...