The cell processor is not ONLY for PS3. It's actually a very flexible system where the cores can assume different functionality depending on what is needed at that milisecond. For the PS3 most of the cells would be working on graphics most of the time. IBM is also planning on using the chips for workstations where presumably most of the cells would be working on MPU functionality most of the time.
I would not be surprised to see Apple use the chips if they get the OS ported to it.
So yes PS3 probably won't be all that powerful but variations of the chip will end up in IBM workstations and they will be very powerful.
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"We should not be aiming for the very low target of "at least better than SCO"."
Why not? How many times have you heard this line of reasoning discussed by top level US personell. "At least we are not as bad as Saddam". Sure we killed six thousand people and destroyed 1/3rd of Fallujah but at least we didn't gas them!.
In a nutshell yes. I don't know about Europe but the theory of American govt is that we are given certain inailable rights by our creator not by our govt or by the masses. those rights are guaranteed in the constitution and may only be taken away by amending the constitution.
I'll put it the way my professor did all those years ago.
Democracy is five wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. In a republic the sheep lives, in a democracy the sheep is dinner.
1) In order for there to be in independent kurdistan iraq has to be divided up. The US is committed to one iraq with all the population living under one govt. The US won't let it happen.
2) Nobody likes the kurds, not the turks, not the shia, not the sunni, not the iraqis, not the iranians. I think kurds may have some sympathy in the US and maybe even in europe but it's certainly not enough to overcome the political chaos that an independent kurdish state would cause.
3) Nobody is going to let the kurds have the oil. The iraqis want it and have a legitamate claim on it, the US wants it and is already counting on oil profits from those wells to pay for the war, the turks have sworn that if the kurds have the oil wells they will invade.
4) If kurdistan was established it would be surrounded by people who hate them. Not just hatred like you or I might hate brittney spears but intense generational hatred that spans centuries of killings. It's a formula for chaos and disaster.
Tell me where you think this kurdistan would be? Would it be in what is now northern Iraq? You think Bush will go for that? You think anybody will go for splitting iraq into two or three countries?
Also who will take over all the oil wells in northern iraq? Will it be kurds? Since the kurds in northern iraq support terrorism against the turks and iraqis don't you think an oiol rich terrorist state like kurdistan would be dealt with in the same way iraq is?
If the kurds want an idependent state they will have wage war with iran, iraq or turkey so that they can take some of their land. Trust me nobody is going to let them have those oil wells for free. You think they can win a war against any of those countries?
Why don't you try and form a nazi web site in germany and tell me that you are democratic. Go ahead and make sure you deny the holocaust never happened too. Let's see how long that web site stays up and how long it takes to haul your ass to jail.
europeans sure are sanctimonius bastards, I guess your shit don't stink huh?
Pressure for what? People have been arrested in europe for "supporting terrorists" for doing very similar things. See this
Why is it OK to arrest a webmaster in england as opposed to Turkey?
Are you seriously suggesting nobody has ever been arrested in Europe for disseminating unauthirized information? Don't you guys censor nazi links on google?
Apparently he was charged with publishing terrorist propaganda and found guilty. Similar things have happened in the US and elsewhere. People have been charged with supporting terrorists and inciting violence. For example right to life people have been charged with putting together web sites to incite people to kill doctors. In US controlled iraq sunni clerics have been arrested for publicly denoucing the occupation, urging resistance and recently for opposing the election process.
The only thing that seems different is that the guy may not have actually posted the articles but instead compiled them in one place. I could certainly see how somebody could be charged with similar crimes in the US for the same act.
We have had many people arrested, charged and found guilty of posting information on the internet both here and in the rest of the "first world". Here are some links
Arresting reporters, webmasters and other disseminators of information is very common in the US, europe, china and elsewhere. I guess I don't see why this is that special.
Al quada killed 3000 people on 9/11. In response how many people have we killed? Of course we don't know for sure because neither the press nor the military are interested in telling us the truth but according to the UN we have killed at least 6000 in falujia this week. At least 20,000 dead civillians in iraq so far. Most likely 100,000 human beings in raq so far and I would guess at least that many in afghanistan.
In the US people have been found guilty of helping terrorist organizations for some really lame stuff. For example the guy who for a while was a driver for osama bin laden in in guantanamo being denied human rights. Also lawyers for terrorists have been charged with aiding terrorism..
If the US can charge people with aiding terrorism on the flimsiest of basis why can't Turkey?
This war on terrorism has given a carte blanche to all governments of the world to surpress minorities. Whether it's the chechnians in russia, chinese muslims in china, or the kurds in turkey. Just call them terrorists and go.
"Considering the time crunch they're under in an emergancy, and the turnover problem they have, yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing they'd give a flying fuck about."
In that case I have a bridge I'd like to sell. Interested?
I hate to break it to you but it won't help. Your congressperson doesn't give a shit about you. Read this article. Here is a quote. While all 435 seats in the House of Representatives are up for election in November, the truth is that only about 25 to 40 seats are truly contested
So unless you live in one of those 24 t0 40 districts your congressmen gets re-elected automatically. As they say their only risk is to be caught with a dead girl or a live boy.
MS is bribing them, they know they will get re-elected no matter what.
When push comes to shove they will simply say that if you vote for their opponent gays will marry and terrorists will kill you and voila! They will get re-elected. Your neighbors are dumb and are much more concerned with preventing gays from being married then patents.
The military will consider linux when linus gives as much money to congressmen as linus, and when linus takes high level decision makers on junkets and buys them rolex watches.
Until then they will only use windows. They know who butters their bread and it ain't linus.
If everything you say is true why aren't you suing the doctor for malpractice?
May people bemoan malpractice suits but clealy the doctor had no intention of helping you mother just wanted to run some tests, get paid, and get rid of your mother till the next time. This is exactly why malpractice suits exist.
I too have horror stories and I think most people who have dealt with the health care industry do too. Nothing ever gets done because the minute anybody suggests anything new (hillary for example) the doctors, insurance companies, and right wing radio/tv personalities spring into action and start screaming socialism at the top of their lungs.
Here is how I would solve the problem.
1) If a doctor is found guilty of malpractice the hospital has to pay for all the medical care and lost wages past and present and the doctor can't practice medicine for a month.
2) Second time the doctor gets licence pulled for a year.
3) Three strikes and you are out. No more practising medicine for you. You are fired.
That's it. No huge monetary damages you just get canned. Let's get rid of the crappy doctors.
I was once upgrading a debian system when I got a message saying that the upgrade I was attempting was probably going to break my system. It then said "Are you sure you want to do this?". I of course answered yes. The next screen said somthing like.. This is a really bad idea and I am not going to do it unless you type in the phrase "I know this is a really bad idea but I am going to do it anyway". So being the stubborn sort that I am I typed in that phrase and of course it broke the system.
The point is that the author of the update knew my system was going to break and made me type in that phrase before I installed. Why couldn't the author of the XP patch check to see if it was trying to be installed on a XP machine in the first place?
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The cell processor is not ONLY for PS3. It's actually a very flexible system where the cores can assume different functionality depending on what is needed at that milisecond. For the PS3 most of the cells would be working on graphics most of the time. IBM is also planning on using the chips for workstations where presumably most of the cells would be working on MPU functionality most of the time.
I would not be surprised to see Apple use the chips if they get the OS ported to it.
So yes PS3 probably won't be all that powerful but variations of the chip will end up in IBM workstations and they will be very powerful.
"We should not be aiming for the very low target of "at least better than SCO"."
Why not? How many times have you heard this line of reasoning discussed by top level US personell. "At least we are not as bad as Saddam". Sure we killed six thousand people and destroyed 1/3rd of Fallujah but at least we didn't gas them!.
In a nutshell yes. I don't know about Europe but the theory of American govt is that we are given certain inailable rights by our creator not by our govt or by the masses. those rights are guaranteed in the constitution and may only be taken away by amending the constitution.
I'll put it the way my professor did all those years ago.
Democracy is five wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. In a republic the sheep lives, in a democracy the sheep is dinner.
You are dreaming. It will never happen.
1) In order for there to be in independent kurdistan iraq has to be divided up. The US is committed to one iraq with all the population living under one govt. The US won't let it happen.
2) Nobody likes the kurds, not the turks, not the shia, not the sunni, not the iraqis, not the iranians. I think kurds may have some sympathy in the US and maybe even in europe but it's certainly not enough to overcome the political chaos that an independent kurdish state would cause.
3) Nobody is going to let the kurds have the oil. The iraqis want it and have a legitamate claim on it, the US wants it and is already counting on oil profits from those wells to pay for the war, the turks have sworn that if the kurds have the oil wells they will invade.
4) If kurdistan was established it would be surrounded by people who hate them. Not just hatred like you or I might hate brittney spears but intense generational hatred that spans centuries of killings. It's a formula for chaos and disaster.
Tell me where you think this kurdistan would be? Would it be in what is now northern Iraq? You think Bush will go for that? You think anybody will go for splitting iraq into two or three countries?
Also who will take over all the oil wells in northern iraq? Will it be kurds? Since the kurds in northern iraq support terrorism against the turks and iraqis don't you think an oiol rich terrorist state like kurdistan would be dealt with in the same way iraq is?
If the kurds want an idependent state they will have wage war with iran, iraq or turkey so that they can take some of their land. Trust me nobody is going to let them have those oil wells for free. You think they can win a war against any of those countries?
Wake me up when it actually happens.
rights like free speech should not be subject to the whims of mobs (democracy). They are supposed to be innate.
You'd think by now they would have adjusted the currency to make it more sane. Maybe they are waiting to switch to the euro who knows.
Why don't you try and form a nazi web site in germany and tell me that you are democratic. Go ahead and make sure you deny the holocaust never happened too. Let's see how long that web site stays up and how long it takes to haul your ass to jail.
europeans sure are sanctimonius bastards, I guess your shit don't stink huh?
Ooops wrong link that was a guy arrested in the US for posting information. try this for a guy arrested in london.
Pressure for what? People have been arrested in europe for "supporting terrorists" for doing very similar things. See this
Why is it OK to arrest a webmaster in england as opposed to Turkey?
Are you seriously suggesting nobody has ever been arrested in Europe for disseminating unauthirized information? Don't you guys censor nazi links on google?
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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Hey fagboy how ya been?
Nobody has ever arrested a reporter or a webmaster anywhere in europe? Not even for "aiding terrorism"?
Apparently he was charged with publishing terrorist propaganda and found guilty. Similar things have happened in the US and elsewhere. People have been charged with supporting terrorists and inciting violence. For example right to life people have been charged with putting together web sites to incite people to kill doctors. In US controlled iraq sunni clerics have been arrested for publicly denoucing the occupation, urging resistance and recently for opposing the election process.
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The only thing that seems different is that the guy may not have actually posted the articles but instead compiled them in one place. I could certainly see how somebody could be charged with similar crimes in the US for the same act.
We have had many people arrested, charged and found guilty of posting information on the internet both here and in the rest of the "first world". Here are some links
http://www.raisethefist.com/news.cgi?artical=wi
http://www.z
http://www.nukefre
http://cnnstudentn
http://www.freemanz.com/polit
Arresting reporters, webmasters and other disseminators of information is very common in the US, europe, china and elsewhere. I guess I don't see why this is that special.
Bah. Everybody knows that a muslim country will never be a part of the EU.
Al quada killed 3000 people on 9/11. In response how many people have we killed? Of course we don't know for sure because neither the press nor the military are interested in telling us the truth but according to the UN we have killed at least 6000 in falujia this week. At least 20,000 dead civillians in iraq so far. Most likely 100,000 human beings in raq so far and I would guess at least that many in afghanistan.
So go ahead do a head to head count.
In the US people have been found guilty of helping terrorist organizations for some really lame stuff. For example the guy who for a while was a driver for osama bin laden in in guantanamo being denied human rights. Also lawyers for terrorists have been charged with aiding terrorism. .
If the US can charge people with aiding terrorism on the flimsiest of basis why can't Turkey?
This war on terrorism has given a carte blanche to all governments of the world to surpress minorities. Whether it's the chechnians in russia, chinese muslims in china, or the kurds in turkey. Just call them terrorists and go.
Perhaps but I bet your congressmen wins overwhelmingly every time.
There is no such thing as democracy anymore. All the districts have been organized to make sure of that.
"Considering the time crunch they're under in an emergancy, and the turnover problem they have, yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing they'd give a flying fuck about."
In that case I have a bridge I'd like to sell. Interested?
" How about when linux does the job as easily and quickly."
You really think anybody in the military or the US govt gives a flying fuck about that? If so I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
"Write your congressman and plead for reform."
I hate to break it to you but it won't help. Your congressperson doesn't give a shit about you. Read this article. Here is a quote.
While all 435 seats in the House of Representatives are up for election in November, the truth is that only about 25 to 40 seats are truly contested
So unless you live in one of those 24 t0 40 districts your congressmen gets re-elected automatically. As they say their only risk is to be caught with a dead girl or a live boy.
MS is bribing them, they know they will get re-elected no matter what.
When push comes to shove they will simply say that if you vote for their opponent gays will marry and terrorists will kill you and voila! They will get re-elected. Your neighbors are dumb and are much more concerned with preventing gays from being married then patents.
The military will consider linux when linus gives as much money to congressmen as linus, and when linus takes high level decision makers on junkets and buys them rolex watches.
Until then they will only use windows. They know who butters their bread and it ain't linus.
If everything you say is true why aren't you suing the doctor for malpractice?
May people bemoan malpractice suits but clealy the doctor had no intention of helping you mother just wanted to run some tests, get paid, and get rid of your mother till the next time. This is exactly why malpractice suits exist.
I too have horror stories and I think most people who have dealt with the health care industry do too. Nothing ever gets done because the minute anybody suggests anything new (hillary for example) the doctors, insurance companies, and right wing radio/tv personalities spring into action and start screaming socialism at the top of their lungs.
Here is how I would solve the problem.
1) If a doctor is found guilty of malpractice the hospital has to pay for all the medical care and lost wages past and present and the doctor can't practice medicine for a month.
2) Second time the doctor gets licence pulled for a year.
3) Three strikes and you are out. No more practising medicine for you. You are fired.
That's it. No huge monetary damages you just get canned. Let's get rid of the crappy doctors.
I was once upgrading a debian system when I got a message saying that the upgrade I was attempting was probably going to break my system. It then said "Are you sure you want to do this?". I of course answered yes. The next screen said somthing like.. This is a really bad idea and I am not going to do it unless you type in the phrase "I know this is a really bad idea but I am going to do it anyway". So being the stubborn sort that I am I typed in that phrase and of course it broke the system.
The point is that the author of the update knew my system was going to break and made me type in that phrase before I installed. Why couldn't the author of the XP patch check to see if it was trying to be installed on a XP machine in the first place?
Right. Whenever they calculate TCO MS always claims you don't need "expensive sysadmins".