I believe 4% of the population has cell phones but not a land line. That's a pretty big number when the lection is so close.
I would think that a younger geekier crowd would trend towards kerry but will they even bother to vote when the time comes. Remember when Dean was going to win because so many young people were visiting his web site? Well none of them showed up to vote and kerry got the nomination.
Actually we also know that several prisoners died from beatings in Afghanistan while in US custody. Some others were tortured and killed by other Americans but nobody seems to know their relation to the US govt for sure. They claim they were under govt orders but the govt is denying it. Makes you wonder why somebody would get off their ass one day, go to afghanistan, set up a prison, capture people, torture them and kill a couple just for fun though.
Hitler provided walls and a roof for his prisoners. Bush puts them in chain link cages (in cuba). We don't really know what happens in Aghanistan, quatar, pakistan or elsewhere to the prisoners.
You know I started thinking about what you said and something occured to me.
If reading slashdot is any indication there are an awful lot of companies in the US making decisions based of really stupid and irrational criterea. I have heard many times "we didn't go with X because there was nobody to blame" and "we didn't go with Y because SCO might sue us" type of totally idiotic reasons. Why is that? Is Harvard business school or joe blow MBA mill really producing management that is unable to assess risk and intelligently apply reason to their decision making process? Think about it.
I wonder if this is some sort of an American thing. Are people in Europe and Asia making decisions like this? If not we are about to get our assess kicked awfully hard.
" Why is there "no doubt" that we are partially responsible?"
Because an overwhelming (over 75%) of the people who study this for a living have concluded this.
"The problem I have with the whole global warming issues is that there are scientists who have an agenda to start with so they tend to see what they want to see and come to their own desired conclusion; that humans are the scum of the Earth and are ruining this planet."
Nonsense. The vast majority of scientists agree. Maybe you think the vast majority of the scientists all have the same belief structure.
"I have read a lot of bantering on both sides of the fence, but really haven't seen anything diffinitive from either side."
Look again. Clearly you are ignorant of the science out there.
"Of course, humans are responsible for pollution, but according to records, pollution is less now where I live than in was in the early 1900s when everybody burned coal for heat;"
We are talking about the world, not your neighborhood.
"What effect does human pollution have on global warming? I don't know. People smarter than me are at odds on the issue though, so until it becomes scientific fact instead of political power-mongering, I guess I simply don't care."
It is scientific. People smarter then you have reached a conscensus. You don't care.
There is no sense in trying to talk sense and facts with people like you. You are a republitard. A person whose allegience to one party is so strong facts don't enter their brain unless it re-inforces their pre-conceived ideology.
I don't use the term lightly. You are a republitard.
Typical republitard. Is completely unaware of the facts. Whoever modded this ignorant moron up please be aware that he is wrong. I don't know whether he is lying or completely ignorant of the facts but human beings contribute over a 100 times more CO2 into the atmosphere then volcanos do.
This is supposed to be a forum for geeks who are supposedly able to read and understand some of the scientific literature out there.
Why would you mod up a person who is flat out wrong?
As John Stewart said. There is a thing called the internet and it contains information. Start reading here. http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Hazards/What/VolGas/volg as.html
There is no doubt that we are partially responsible. I think you will need to accept that eventually.
"Now just be wise and prepare to face it instead of looking who is to blame."
I don't buy this false dichotomy. We need to do both. At a minimum we need to humiliate and discredit all those people who claimed that this was not happening or that it would be good for us.
If you go into a store and buy a rolex for $50.00 you have no right to expect that it's a legit rolex.
If you go into a store and buy windows for $15.00 or get it free then it's the same thing.
So when somebody gives you shit about how they can sell you windows for $35.00 if you also buy a pen that the same as saying "this rolex fell off the truck"
I know you are trying to be funny but the porn industry does not seem to mind P2P. They are probably under some delusion that people may want to pay for porn if they get some for free.
What happens to you. You spend money and time to create a software product. It becomes popular and you make some profit. MS makes a competing product and integrates it into the OS or sells it for half the price. You go bankrupt soon after.
Parralell track. People like your program but they don't want to pay you or MS. They create an open source competing product pretty quickly by assembling other projects together. It's not as good as yours but it's free. This too takes away from your sales and you go bankrupt.
After you go bankrupt you open source your product because you don't want to strand your customers and because you want to go out while giving the middle finger to MS.
"And they're going to do what, exactly? Execute Linus and RMS? Firebomb the FSF? You are making totally ridiculous assertions"
Those are not the only options on the table are they? For example they can lobby the US to force Brazil to use MS software in exchange for a trade agreement. Of course it's not like the US govt has been above sponsoring and supporting murder and mayhem in south america anyway. I have no doubt that if less coersive methods didn't work there would be roaming paramilitaries assembled in a hurry.
"Yes, if there were no companies at all, then we'd have everything we always wanted, right away"
It's possible to have companies without having corporations. It's possible to have corporations that are structured differently. It's possible to hold corporations accountable for their actions. It's possible to have a govt that is not wholly owned by corporations.
"I am not sure -- Republicans control both chambers, and what president considers "horrible" (rather then simply disagreeable), would not have passed."
You keep believing that if it makes you fell better.
" Bush is a jihadist zealot I'll give you that.
You are trying to change the subject -- again..."
Bush is the subject and he is a jihadist zealot. How is that changing the subject. You yourself seem to agree with that.
"I know the president has trouble in front of the camera, and I admit can look like an idiot at times"
There is a difference between looking bad on the camera and stating a flat our lie 10 times on TV. He didn't look bad he was either lying or confused. What's amazing to me is that he did 10 times and nobody on his staff corrected him. Maybe they didn't know either or maybe they were afraid to correct him. Either way it's not good.
YOu think this is about style? Bullshit. This is about a president that does not have a grasp of the facts. He looked great and forceful when he way talking, but he was lying or he didn't know. Scary.
"Finally, how do you know that he "didn't give a shit when those babies were being killed"?"
Because he didn't say or do anything. He had access to people in the highest levels of govt, he had access to media, he had money, he had time and yet he didn't do jack shit. I at least gave a few bucks to amnesty international and talked amongst my friends. If I had access to media I would have talked to the media, if I had access to the president I would have talked to the president.
He was the son of the president. He could have done something. If he did something we would have known about it.
"It disturbs me that we have lost all political discussion and now only have hate speech, cussing and yelling. How does that get us anywhere?"
Don't get mad at me. Write to Limbaugh, O'Reilly, coulter, horowitz, hannity, liddy, savage and the rest of the right wing hate brigade. I for one finally got pissed off at being called a traitor, bedwetter, nosepicker, and a terrorist because I had the gall to support the aclu or amnesty international. I am happy that people like me are cussing and yelling back. It's about time. I could not stand it when we were all being quiet while the republicans were raping us. It's time we kicked, scratched, yelled and bit to get these fucks off our backs and then some. I say we visit on them the same violence they visit on us if not more so. The jews have a saying "eye for a tooth", I say we rip their eyes out (metaphorically of course).
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I believe 4% of the population has cell phones but not a land line. That's a pretty big number when the lection is so close.
I would think that a younger geekier crowd would trend towards kerry but will they even bother to vote when the time comes. Remember when Dean was going to win because so many young people were visiting his web site? Well none of them showed up to vote and kerry got the nomination.
Actually we also know that several prisoners died from beatings in Afghanistan while in US custody. Some others were tortured and killed by other Americans but nobody seems to know their relation to the US govt for sure. They claim they were under govt orders but the govt is denying it. Makes you wonder why somebody would get off their ass one day, go to afghanistan, set up a prison, capture people, torture them and kill a couple just for fun though.
Hitler provided walls and a roof for his prisoners. Bush puts them in chain link cages (in cuba). We don't really know what happens in Aghanistan, quatar, pakistan or elsewhere to the prisoners.
During the lunar eclipse!.
Really now how many omens do you need?
You know I started thinking about what you said and something occured to me.
If reading slashdot is any indication there are an awful lot of companies in the US making decisions based of really stupid and irrational criterea. I have heard many times "we didn't go with X because there was nobody to blame" and "we didn't go with Y because SCO might sue us" type of totally idiotic reasons. Why is that? Is Harvard business school or joe blow MBA mill really producing management that is unable to assess risk and intelligently apply reason to their decision making process? Think about it.
I wonder if this is some sort of an American thing. Are people in Europe and Asia making decisions like this? If not we are about to get our assess kicked awfully hard.
"If you have information that the rest of us don't, please feel free to post it, links, etc."
Start by going to the NOAA web site.
Yea me too. Apparenty though the version of the bible that the president reads has all that.
" Why is there "no doubt" that we are partially responsible?"
Because an overwhelming (over 75%) of the people who study this for a living have concluded this.
"The problem I have with the whole global warming issues is that there are scientists who have an agenda to start with so they tend to see what they want to see and come to their own desired conclusion; that humans are the scum of the Earth and are ruining this planet."
Nonsense. The vast majority of scientists agree. Maybe you think the vast majority of the scientists all have the same belief structure.
"I have read a lot of bantering on both sides of the fence, but really haven't seen anything diffinitive from either side."
Look again. Clearly you are ignorant of the science out there.
"Of course, humans are responsible for pollution, but according to records, pollution is less now where I live than in was in the early 1900s when everybody burned coal for heat;"
We are talking about the world, not your neighborhood.
"What effect does human pollution have on global warming? I don't know. People smarter than me are at odds on the issue though, so until it becomes scientific fact instead of political power-mongering, I guess I simply don't care."
It is scientific. People smarter then you have reached a conscensus. You don't care.
There is no sense in trying to talk sense and facts with people like you. You are a republitard. A person whose allegience to one party is so strong facts don't enter their brain unless it re-inforces their pre-conceived ideology.
I don't use the term lightly. You are a republitard.
"Yes, and they did so at the behest of Microsoft, right?"
No not MS, Other corporations who at that time just as much power as MS has now. There is no reason to think that the Govt won't do the same for MS.
Typical republitard. Is completely unaware of the facts. Whoever modded this ignorant moron up please be aware that he is wrong. I don't know whether he is lying or completely ignorant of the facts but human beings contribute over a 100 times more CO2 into the atmosphere then volcanos do.
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This is supposed to be a forum for geeks who are supposedly able to read and understand some of the scientific literature out there.
Why would you mod up a person who is flat out wrong?
As John Stewart said. There is a thing called the internet and it contains information. Start reading here. http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Hazards/What/VolGas/vol
There is no doubt that we are partially responsible. I think you will need to accept that eventually.
"Now just be wise and prepare to face it instead of looking who is to blame."
I don't buy this false dichotomy. We need to do both. At a minimum we need to humiliate and discredit all those people who claimed that this was not happening or that it would be good for us.
Bah facts are for those liberal elite east coast intellectuals. All you really need to do is to listen to god.
"I do happen to have another OEM CD that is non-vender specific."
Does that OEM CD say "only valid with the purchase of a new PC?"
If you go into a store and buy a rolex for $50.00 you have no right to expect that it's a legit rolex.
If you go into a store and buy windows for $15.00 or get it free then it's the same thing.
So when somebody gives you shit about how they can sell you windows for $35.00 if you also buy a pen that the same as saying "this rolex fell off the truck"
Apparently you are one of those republitards. Facts don't enter your brain unless they re-inforce whatever shit your head is filled with.
Yes I will see you at the polls.
I know you are trying to be funny but the porn industry does not seem to mind P2P. They are probably under some delusion that people may want to pay for porn if they get some for free.
Your economics are all wrong.
What happens to you.
You spend money and time to create a software product. It becomes popular and you make some profit. MS makes a competing product and integrates it into the OS or sells it for half the price. You go bankrupt soon after.
Parralell track.
People like your program but they don't want to pay you or MS. They create an open source competing product pretty quickly by assembling other projects together. It's not as good as yours but it's free. This too takes away from your sales and you go bankrupt.
After you go bankrupt you open source your product because you don't want to strand your customers and because you want to go out while giving the middle finger to MS.
"And they're going to do what, exactly? Execute Linus and RMS? Firebomb the FSF? You are making totally ridiculous assertions"
Those are not the only options on the table are they? For example they can lobby the US to force Brazil to use MS software in exchange for a trade agreement. Of course it's not like the US govt has been above sponsoring and supporting murder and mayhem in south america anyway. I have no doubt that if less coersive methods didn't work there would be roaming paramilitaries assembled in a hurry.
"Yes, if there were no companies at all, then we'd have everything we always wanted, right away"
It's possible to have companies without having corporations. It's possible to have corporations that are structured differently. It's possible to hold corporations accountable for their actions. It's possible to have a govt that is not wholly owned by corporations.
"I am not sure -- Republicans control both chambers, and what president considers "horrible" (rather then simply disagreeable), would not have passed."
You keep believing that if it makes you fell better.
" Bush is a jihadist zealot I'll give you that.
You are trying to change the subject -- again..."
Bush is the subject and he is a jihadist zealot. How is that changing the subject. You yourself seem to agree with that.
"I know the president has trouble in front of the camera, and I admit can look like an idiot at times"
There is a difference between looking bad on the camera and stating a flat our lie 10 times on TV. He didn't look bad he was either lying or confused. What's amazing to me is that he did 10 times and nobody on his staff corrected him. Maybe they didn't know either or maybe they were afraid to correct him. Either way it's not good.
YOu think this is about style? Bullshit. This is about a president that does not have a grasp of the facts. He looked great and forceful when he way talking, but he was lying or he didn't know. Scary.
"Finally, how do you know that he "didn't give a shit when those babies were being killed"?"
Because he didn't say or do anything. He had access to people in the highest levels of govt, he had access to media, he had money, he had time and yet he didn't do jack shit. I at least gave a few bucks to amnesty international and talked amongst my friends. If I had access to media I would have talked to the media, if I had access to the president I would have talked to the president.
He was the son of the president. He could have done something. If he did something we would have known about it.
"It disturbs me that we have lost all political discussion and now only have hate speech, cussing and yelling. How does that get us anywhere?"
Don't get mad at me. Write to Limbaugh, O'Reilly, coulter, horowitz, hannity, liddy, savage and the rest of the right wing hate brigade. I for one finally got pissed off at being called a traitor, bedwetter, nosepicker, and a terrorist because I had the gall to support the aclu or amnesty international. I am happy that people like me are cussing and yelling back. It's about time. I could not stand it when we were all being quiet while the republicans were raping us. It's time we kicked, scratched, yelled and bit to get these fucks off our backs and then some. I say we visit on them the same violence they visit on us if not more so. The jews have a saying "eye for a tooth", I say we rip their eyes out (metaphorically of course).
Apache1 or apache2? Windows or Unix?
Apache under windows is JustBadIdea if you ask me.
Could be just snow.
" Given #1 and #2, then you would wind up with a nearly smooth surface over the entire planet - given enough time."
"Given enough time" is a tricky phrase. For example I have heard this.
Hydrogen. A colorless, odorless gas that given enough time turns into a human being.
Wow cold fusion and jrun? People still use those? Are they running as modules or a CGI?
Maybe you should go back to IIS. You should not run a web server you can't get working. Leave apache for other people.