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I'm afraid nobody can convince anybody. I looked at the petition, and read the web page around it - and to me, I thought... this could be useful, and in-fact, critical to some people.
I'm not convinced that this will be "the best thing" for Open Source Software or for Linux, but I do think that this is "the best thing" for OS/2, and the small number of users whom - for one reason or another - are still using it.
The far side of that, I think it would get a sub-set of the latest generation of extremely smart programmers to take a first look at this extremely useful (though, now old) OS, and learn from it.
This is the first petition I've signed since the petition to put Nader's name on my state ballot (I didn't vote for him, but I think it's important that he be represented).
If the petition doesn't make sense to you, by all means, just leave it be. If it does, then sign up!
Most folks forget to set their timezone settings, or even take into account that timezones may be different by different readers. Ben, you are correct - it was only 13 minutes.
Good point... I got in about four minutes before the story was open for comments (gotta love that subscription). I'm also curious to see if the counter actually works.
The total number of registrants for this OS2 petition: 293
Thank you real name, your registration was successful.
I've got to say - even if 40% of OS2 is opened up, the benefits to many, many projects could be wide-spread.
Further, history shows that IBM is likely to use a GNU
compatible license if they open the source at all.
They obviously need more names. Posting it here though will make
a nightmare for those who need to clean up the petition.
There are very few places that look for Linux certs during the hire process. And the few that do, are doing so because they have nobody who knows Linux already, and they need it to support some big product their IT department was just told to install. In this type of shop.. you'd also be expected to have experience doing Linux (or at least UNIX) administration in a corporate environment.
Otherwise, the Aplus cert has some Linux troubleshooting now, and can (at least) be applied to more aspects of what you're doing (one of the few certs that I don't feel is a waste of time).
I am an IT director and a Linux user (currently Fedora Core 3 and RedHat Enterprise Linux 4).
Patent it into oblivion, and prevent others from using the same design without paying mad fees to HP. Though, the original research is owned by Nasa, so only the double-wire, sequence switching is directly patentable by HP.
On the other hand, imagine inlaid crossbar latches on a printing matrix. Higher accuracy... Imagine 4 billion DPI - full color?
Funny that HP would be flaunting this. I read about Quantum based, nano gates in Nasa Tech Briefs nearly two years ago. Can't submit such things to here from there, as they don't keep their articles on-line.
And me as a cost conciencious IT manager... Sorry, I'm not willing to buy it. Literally, not willing to buy it. I'd buy an entry-level SPARC server before an x86 (or even an O64) for running Solaris - why? The APP support is already there. Not just IBM, but plenty of other vendors (including the one I work for) will support SPARC-SUN-SOLARIS but not x86-SOLARIS.
No... He stopped reading, because he went right out to buy a Sun machine with the most secure OS the world has ever seen (although, I'm quite certain there are more than a few AS/400 enthusiasts who would be quick to disagree, their opinions don't count anyway).
Until Solaris 9 (and now, 10), Sun themselves didn't take Solaris on x86 seriously. Now that Sun want's to try to take Solaris on x86 seriously, they expect IBM to suddenly jump in on it?
If I want Solaris professionally, I'll buy a SPARC to run it on. If I want to play around with Solaris, I'll download it for x86.
Allen Zadr is the Director of IT for a small software company
XP Service Pack 2 fixed the "Active X: You click the link" - and there have been more than one issues since in both Firefox AND I.E. that allow the "You click the link" scenario to be possible (although no longer common).
Yes, flash is a really good example of something that uses embedding technology. Flash is not unique in that it support BOTH ActiveX and Firefox's own similar embedding technology.
So, really, the argument is that Firefox doesn't support Internet Explorer's proprietary API for embedding web content.
I would say that is not a deficiency or a feature, it is merely an issue with vendor support.
Open web browser (usually defaults to google or MSN). 418 Connection Refused; Your <link...>router is having an encryption problem. Click <link...>router for more information.
User clicks on link, which installs Certificate Authority (with the requisite warnings). Seems simple to most users. There's an error about Wireless Encryption - and it wants to install a certificate. Since the user wasn't trying to hit a secure site at the time, it doesn't seem as immediately suspicious.
No, the "one percent"ers around here know the diff between a Cert and a C.A. But the other 99% don't. Hopefully, by the time they hit their online banking - they will have forgotten about the previous "router issue".
As usual, a small shaking of social engineering in a technical issue can turn a seemingly trivial security issue a very real security issue.
Right, so you would have to take the additional step of getting the user to install the router's own certificate authority key. If the user does this, then the router can sign it's own keys in the name of anybody.
How would I go about that? Connection refused - there is a router encryption problem - click here
This will install the certificate authority, "Wireless Router". No, it's not a sure bet, but there's a good chance it would work.
Social engineering so often plays an important role in computer attacks.
Dude, it was a knee jerk comment. I didn't even think it particularly clever, and it wouldn't have made the mega Funny mods if it were not also first post.
However, complaining about it is not productive... At least it was on topic (unlike so many First Posts around this place). I'm not even Karma Trolling, as I'm well aware that "funny" does nothing for Karma.
Further, what good is a story like this without some fun conjecture. Yeah... most likely it's some discard from either the parachute or "bounce" deployment mechanisms, but that doesn't even qualify as "interesting".
I appreciate the clarification. I've spent a lot of time looking into both sides of this issue - and it gets "under my skin" when misleading statements are bandied about.
I would also point out that the "positive reinforcement" theory is also still actively disputed in scientific circles, in that the correlation exists, but the cyclic cause and effect hasn't been proven (though pointing to a planet that's much closer to the sun is good enough for some folk, I prefer more substance).
Overall, between 1979 and 1997, the mean temperature of the earth dropped slightly. Since 1997, the mean temperature of the earth has gained that back, and then some - all of this still looks like it could be a fairly natural process...
Certainly, the northern parts of Antarctica are, as you point out, a vital regional area to the overall health of the worlds low-coast regions - but a regional warming of parts of that continent (while other regions of the same continent are getting colder) over a relatively short period of time, does not necessarily indicate global warming influences.
The general belief of most environmental types is that, "if this _could_ be having a bad effect, then we should stop". I believe, "since this _could_ be having a bad effect, we should continue to actively study what is happening, until we know more."
(I don't believe you brought this one up, but it's related)... The Kyoto accord, that the US rejected, was unbalanced. It assumed every single country, as of 1996, had zero environmental controls. Then it said, you must improve your current emmissions by 'x' percent over the next 20 years. Well, if India puts cheap scrubbers on half of it's industries (something we already did to _all_ of our industries back in the 80s) they have fully complied with Kyoto, while we are forced to figure out how to produce even less emissions from our already scrubbed output. So - that said - I think it was smart of us to reject it. I'm happy that the rest of the world wants to clean up though.
That said, I am unhappy about the idea that several states, as varied as Florida and Minnesota, have chosen to stop their vehicle emmissions inspections. Great, our city air is a little cleaner than it was 20 years ago. Meanwhile, I know several people who have taken their older cars - that they "were going to get around to fixing" - back out of the garage, knowing that their cars are spewing horrible emmissions.
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I'm afraid nobody can convince anybody. I looked at the petition, and read the web page around it - and to me, I thought... this could be useful, and in-fact, critical to some people.
I'm not convinced that this will be "the best thing" for Open Source Software or for Linux, but I do think that this is "the best thing" for OS/2, and the small number of users whom - for one reason or another - are still using it.
The far side of that, I think it would get a sub-set of the latest generation of extremely smart programmers to take a first look at this extremely useful (though, now old) OS, and learn from it.
This is the first petition I've signed since the petition to put Nader's name on my state ballot (I didn't vote for him, but I think it's important that he be represented).
If the petition doesn't make sense to you, by all means, just leave it be. If it does, then sign up!
See, that's why I'm not a politician.
Most folks forget to set their timezone settings, or even take into account that timezones may be different by different readers. Ben, you are correct - it was only 13 minutes.
The really, really sad part is that this means that out of all these comments... only three (you, me, and one other) actually signed the petition.
Good point ... I got in about four minutes before the story was open for comments (gotta love that subscription). I'm also curious to see if the counter actually works.
I've got to say - even if 40% of OS2 is opened up, the benefits to many, many projects could be wide-spread. Further, history shows that IBM is likely to use a GNU compatible license if they open the source at all.
They obviously need more names. Posting it here though will make a nightmare for those who need to clean up the petition.
Otherwise, the Aplus cert has some Linux troubleshooting now, and can (at least) be applied to more aspects of what you're doing (one of the few certs that I don't feel is a waste of time).
I am an IT director and a Linux user (currently Fedora Core 3 and RedHat Enterprise Linux 4).
The troll tone of the previous aside... this comment is actually pretty-much dead-on.
On the other hand, imagine inlaid crossbar latches on a printing matrix. Higher accuracy... Imagine 4 billion DPI - full color?
Funny that HP would be flaunting this. I read about Quantum based, nano gates in Nasa Tech Briefs nearly two years ago. Can't submit such things to here from there, as they don't keep their articles on-line.
And me as a cost conciencious IT manager... Sorry, I'm not willing to buy it. Literally, not willing to buy it. I'd buy an entry-level SPARC server before an x86 (or even an O64) for running Solaris - why? The APP support is already there. Not just IBM, but plenty of other vendors (including the one I work for) will support SPARC-SUN-SOLARIS but not x86-SOLARIS.
I'm still partial to Dell's PowerEdge line 800MHz FSB - commodity everything, and Linux driver support. Same things Sun claims, at less cost.
You are I are both busy people though, so if you know how a Sun v40z is better, prey tell!
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Read all about it, and dispell your doubts.
No... He stopped reading, because he went right out to buy a Sun machine with the most secure OS the world has ever seen (although, I'm quite certain there are more than a few AS/400 enthusiasts who would be quick to disagree, their opinions don't count anyway).
duh.
If I want Solaris professionally, I'll buy a SPARC to run it on. If I want to play around with Solaris, I'll download it for x86.
Allen Zadr is the Director of IT for a small software company
XP Service Pack 2 fixed the "Active X: You click the link" - and there have been more than one issues since in both Firefox AND I.E. that allow the "You click the link" scenario to be possible (although no longer common).
So, really, the argument is that Firefox doesn't support Internet Explorer's proprietary API for embedding web content.
I would say that is not a deficiency or a feature, it is merely an issue with vendor support.
Open web browser (usually defaults to google or MSN).
418 Connection Refused; Your <link...>router is having an encryption problem. Click <link...>router for more information.
User clicks on link, which installs Certificate Authority (with the requisite warnings). Seems simple to most users. There's an error about Wireless Encryption - and it wants to install a certificate. Since the user wasn't trying to hit a secure site at the time, it doesn't seem as immediately suspicious.
No, the "one percent"ers around here know the diff between a Cert and a C.A. But the other 99% don't. Hopefully, by the time they hit their online banking - they will have forgotten about the previous "router issue".
As usual, a small shaking of social engineering in a technical issue can turn a seemingly trivial security issue a very real security issue.
How would I go about that? Connection refused - there is a router encryption problem - click here
This will install the certificate authority, "Wireless Router". No, it's not a sure bet, but there's a good chance it would work.
Social engineering so often plays an important role in computer attacks.
I don't know... on the other hand, does anybody else think it's eerie that 'de Gray' is planning to be like Dorian Gray?
a paradigm shift.
However, complaining about it is not productive... At least it was on topic (unlike so many First Posts around this place). I'm not even Karma Trolling, as I'm well aware that "funny" does nothing for Karma.
Further, what good is a story like this without some fun conjecture. Yeah... most likely it's some discard from either the parachute or "bounce" deployment mechanisms, but that doesn't even qualify as "interesting".
So that is what happened to the Beagle lander! They finally found it.
First published in 1954: How to Lie With Statistics
Good book, recommended reading, if you like the above article.
I would also point out that the "positive reinforcement" theory is also still actively disputed in scientific circles, in that the correlation exists, but the cyclic cause and effect hasn't been proven (though pointing to a planet that's much closer to the sun is good enough for some folk, I prefer more substance).
Overall, between 1979 and 1997, the mean temperature of the earth dropped slightly. Since 1997, the mean temperature of the earth has gained that back, and then some - all of this still looks like it could be a fairly natural process...
Certainly, the northern parts of Antarctica are, as you point out, a vital regional area to the overall health of the worlds low-coast regions - but a regional warming of parts of that continent (while other regions of the same continent are getting colder) over a relatively short period of time, does not necessarily indicate global warming influences.
The general belief of most environmental types is that, "if this _could_ be having a bad effect, then we should stop". I believe, "since this _could_ be having a bad effect, we should continue to actively study what is happening, until we know more."
(I don't believe you brought this one up, but it's related)... The Kyoto accord, that the US rejected, was unbalanced. It assumed every single country, as of 1996, had zero environmental controls. Then it said, you must improve your current emmissions by 'x' percent over the next 20 years. Well, if India puts cheap scrubbers on half of it's industries (something we already did to _all_ of our industries back in the 80s) they have fully complied with Kyoto, while we are forced to figure out how to produce even less emissions from our already scrubbed output. So - that said - I think it was smart of us to reject it. I'm happy that the rest of the world wants to clean up though.
That said, I am unhappy about the idea that several states, as varied as Florida and Minnesota, have chosen to stop their vehicle emmissions inspections. Great, our city air is a little cleaner than it was 20 years ago. Meanwhile, I know several people who have taken their older cars - that they "were going to get around to fixing" - back out of the garage, knowing that their cars are spewing horrible emmissions.