Sorry. I use a mouse and keyboard just fine when I play PC FPS's. It's cool to use a keyboard and mouse at my desk. It's STUPID to want to use them in the living room.
I can just see you crouched over your coffee table 'pwning n00bs' with your leet skills. I'd rather be comfortable when I game. But I guess I'm crazy.
I hope console manufacturers never listen to this. The last thing I want is to have to figure out how to use a KB/mouse while I'm sitting on my couch in the living room.
Seriously, are they going to come out with Xbox360 lap trays that are color coordinated with the consoles faceplate? No thanks.
Heck, I'd do it in a heartbeat. 10k will finish paying off my car, buy me a decent HDTV, pay for some computer upgrades, and get me another Xbox360. (With cash left over)
Seriously, anyone who WOULDN'T sell their 360 for 10k needs to have their head examined.
Eve is very unique in this sense. The rules of the game are set up where this kind of espionage is possible, and the players know it. That is what makes the game interesting. A rival corporation trying to squeeze into your marketspace? You can try and beat them in the market by undercutting them until they can no longer keep up, you can declare war on them and hope to disrupt their production via physical might, you can attack them politically with a smear campaign, or you can hire someone shady to destroy them from within.
This is what really sets the game apart. You have so many choices in how you want to accomplish your goal, and so many of the possible avenues require player skill instead of character skill. The game is brutal, it is ruthless, it is unforgiving. But when you truly succeed at something in this game, you are deserving of respect.
As much as I would hate to be on the recieving end of what they did, I have to respect GHSC for pulling off what they did. How many times do you hear of MMO players dedicating over a year of prep work to one goal? That is a LOT more patience than your verage gamer demonstrates.
You talk as if there is no limitation on how many consoles they can churn out in a given time frame. It is entirely possible that they have slapped together as many of the damn things as they possibly could since they finalized hardware, and that they could not physically make enough by launch to satisfy 3 continents.
It's not like they can push a button and make 50 million units appear in a warehouse...
Okay, I can't read the article because of a work firewall. However, as a long time Eve player, I know a lot of the major stories that have come out of the game. It sounds like there are two different stories mixed in here. The first, is the long and complicated infiltration/theft/assassination job done by the Guiding Hand Social club. IIRC this is fairly recent. The other story is from way back when the game was new, and a guy conned people into giving him isk to joint buy a battleship blueprint. Once he had finished his scam, the guy transferred all the isk to a noob, and quit the game.
IIRC, The Guiding Hand Social Club did no such thing after they completed that contract. I could be wrong though.
Check out a Madison local band called Phat Phunktion. They've got two albums up on iTunes as well. It's some good stuff if you like their style. (Jazz/funk/R+B)
Every 360 includes a live "Silver" subscription, which is free. It lets you use the voicechat, friends list, and download content. It does not let you play multiplayer online.
This is frighteningly accurate. I was watching something on CNN (Don't remember who or what, as I usually avoid this stuff) last night, and there was a debate about inappropriate content in the media. This guy was talking about how he considered CSI to be inappropriate for public broadcast because (for example) one episode had a woman TALKING about giving oral sex. He made no mention of the rather graphic and violence that is common on the show. So brutal murders are just fine, but mentioning oral sex is inappropriate.
I've run one character to 60, and have a second in the 40's now. I can think of one, possibly two times in my entire WoW career that I've had problems finding the things I need to kill because of player competition. Perhaps you are on one of the more crowded servers?
As for why WoW is so popular despite it's simplicity, I think it's simplicity may be a reason. I came to WoW after playing Eve for almost 2 years. I helped run a corporation of over 100 people, and was deeply involved in 0.0 alliance politics. It is a VERY complex game, and honestly I burned out. WoW may not do anything significantly new to the genre, but what it does is done very well. The game is easy to get into, and it's entertaining. Does that appeal to everyone? No, but it was a nice change of pace for me, and I'm having a blast.
Will it work with CD/DVD images stored to the HD? I imagine I'll have to mount them to a virtual drive on the server computer first, but I don't see anything on the Windows Media Connect FAQ stating it'll support removable media...
Exactly. We're judging art in games on the terms of other artforms instead of on it's own terms. (And this is totally natural for any new artform. Film used to be judged against stage performance for a long time before it finally broke free)
I just came back from a trip to my local Wal-Mart where I watched, for the first time, some guy play the new Xbox 360 on a demo machine. Despite the fact that (oddly enough) there was no one else but me and the player to admire this machine, I was totally impressed by the vivid graphics of the "Call of Duty" demo I saw, and can therefore conclude that it is possible for video game design to reach the level of "art".
I'm curious why it has to be visually realistic to be considered art? Are impressionist paintings not art because they aren't photorealistic? Personally, I'm kind of tired of games trying to emulate other art forms. We're so focused on cinematic quality visuals and deep literary plots, that we're forgetting that these are supposed to be GAMES. Gameplay is what makes games unique from other artforms. Gameplay is where we should look to find the art in games.
Now, I'm not saying that I don't like good graphics or a deep story in a game. I love them. But if the gameplay sucks, no amount of art assets will make up for it. No matter how much you polish a turd, it's still a turd.
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Sorry. I use a mouse and keyboard just fine when I play PC FPS's. It's cool to use a keyboard and mouse at my desk. It's STUPID to want to use them in the living room.
I can just see you crouched over your coffee table 'pwning n00bs' with your leet skills. I'd rather be comfortable when I game. But I guess I'm crazy.
I hope console manufacturers never listen to this. The last thing I want is to have to figure out how to use a KB/mouse while I'm sitting on my couch in the living room.
Seriously, are they going to come out with Xbox360 lap trays that are color coordinated with the consoles faceplate? No thanks.
Heck, I'd do it in a heartbeat. 10k will finish paying off my car, buy me a decent HDTV, pay for some computer upgrades, and get me another Xbox360. (With cash left over)
Seriously, anyone who WOULDN'T sell their 360 for 10k needs to have their head examined.
My roommate works down the street from our local Best Buy. People were already lining up at about 4pm today.
I was thinking of trying to pick one of these up, but that is just rediculous. I'll wait.
Eve is very unique in this sense. The rules of the game are set up where this kind of espionage is possible, and the players know it. That is what makes the game interesting. A rival corporation trying to squeeze into your marketspace? You can try and beat them in the market by undercutting them until they can no longer keep up, you can declare war on them and hope to disrupt their production via physical might, you can attack them politically with a smear campaign, or you can hire someone shady to destroy them from within.
This is what really sets the game apart. You have so many choices in how you want to accomplish your goal, and so many of the possible avenues require player skill instead of character skill. The game is brutal, it is ruthless, it is unforgiving. But when you truly succeed at something in this game, you are deserving of respect.
As much as I would hate to be on the recieving end of what they did, I have to respect GHSC for pulling off what they did. How many times do you hear of MMO players dedicating over a year of prep work to one goal? That is a LOT more patience than your verage gamer demonstrates.
You talk as if there is no limitation on how many consoles they can churn out in a given time frame. It is entirely possible that they have slapped together as many of the damn things as they possibly could since they finalized hardware, and that they could not physically make enough by launch to satisfy 3 continents.
It's not like they can push a button and make 50 million units appear in a warehouse...
Okay, I can't read the article because of a work firewall. However, as a long time Eve player, I know a lot of the major stories that have come out of the game. It sounds like there are two different stories mixed in here. The first, is the long and complicated infiltration/theft/assassination job done by the Guiding Hand Social club. IIRC this is fairly recent. The other story is from way back when the game was new, and a guy conned people into giving him isk to joint buy a battleship blueprint. Once he had finished his scam, the guy transferred all the isk to a noob, and quit the game.
IIRC, The Guiding Hand Social Club did no such thing after they completed that contract. I could be wrong though.
Apple records might have something to say about that...
Somewhat OT but you still might be interested.
Check out a Madison local band called Phat Phunktion. They've got two albums up on iTunes as well. It's some good stuff if you like their style. (Jazz/funk/R+B)
Every 360 includes a live "Silver" subscription, which is free. It lets you use the voicechat, friends list, and download content. It does not let you play multiplayer online.
Show me any FPS that has a lobby system as painless to the end user as Halo 2, then we'll talk.
Because, obviously, running faster = better game.
Half-Life the first FPS with a cool story? I think Marathon, released in 1994, pre-dates it by quite a bit.
(Can't find a release date for Half-Life at work though, so I could be wrong. My memory is terrible.)
I'm so sick of hunters rolling on what is OBVIOUSLY a caster item...
Conker's Bad Fur Day. Violence, Language, Substance Abuse, and Sexual Innuendo. Great game too.
This is frighteningly accurate. I was watching something on CNN (Don't remember who or what, as I usually avoid this stuff) last night, and there was a debate about inappropriate content in the media. This guy was talking about how he considered CSI to be inappropriate for public broadcast because (for example) one episode had a woman TALKING about giving oral sex. He made no mention of the rather graphic and violence that is common on the show. So brutal murders are just fine, but mentioning oral sex is inappropriate.
I just don't understand that mentality.
I've run one character to 60, and have a second in the 40's now. I can think of one, possibly two times in my entire WoW career that I've had problems finding the things I need to kill because of player competition. Perhaps you are on one of the more crowded servers?
As for why WoW is so popular despite it's simplicity, I think it's simplicity may be a reason. I came to WoW after playing Eve for almost 2 years. I helped run a corporation of over 100 people, and was deeply involved in 0.0 alliance politics. It is a VERY complex game, and honestly I burned out. WoW may not do anything significantly new to the genre, but what it does is done very well. The game is easy to get into, and it's entertaining. Does that appeal to everyone? No, but it was a nice change of pace for me, and I'm having a blast.
Yeah, but I'm talking about ISO's mounted to a virtual drive. Will it stream removable media (CD/DVD) content just like it will media files?
The final boss in Conker is no harder than Bowser in Mario64. (Heck, it's the same analog stick gimmick)
It's War was particularly nasty, agreed.
Will it work with CD/DVD images stored to the HD? I imagine I'll have to mount them to a virtual drive on the server computer first, but I don't see anything on the Windows Media Connect FAQ stating it'll support removable media...
If the EARLY development video is to be believed, Halo started out more like an RTS. (similar to Myth)
Exactly. We're judging art in games on the terms of other artforms instead of on it's own terms. (And this is totally natural for any new artform. Film used to be judged against stage performance for a long time before it finally broke free)
Now, I'm not saying that I don't like good graphics or a deep story in a game. I love them. But if the gameplay sucks, no amount of art assets will make up for it. No matter how much you polish a turd, it's still a turd.
No kidding