what if firing missiles in your country was legal? would it be ok to fire them into the US? ok, extreme example...
what if they were distributing child porn to the US and that was legal in your country? does it make a difference if is it done digitally?
does it make a difference if they send it or people here go out and find it?
is this a moral issue or a legal one?
it would be very easy for them to deny US citizens by simply requiring a credit card to register. they know they are breaking US laws.
how we are "Google-eyed" and that the mumbo jumbo is in the same lettering as Google's logo. This is propaganda at it's best!
That said, calling this a "blatant lie" is retarded. This is nowhere near a black and white issue.
How can it be overcharged by 1%? Isn't it just a chemical reaction that is reversed? How do you get past the point of 100% complete reversal of the chemical reaction?
oh god I hope they don't start using these devices to charge us more for improper use of their vehicles. What next? odor sensors to see when I am peeling out? I bought their damn insurance, that gives me the right to take their chevy malibu offroading in a corn field and e-braking it into trash cans setup like bowling pins!
the consumer can't lose here like in the beta vs vhs battle. Early adopters of the beta format got screwed because they bought players and tapes that later became obsolete. It's not like your plasma tv will stop working if lcd's take over. You won't need to go out and switch to lcd. In this case, the best format will probably win, and I don't see a downside anywhere.
Why don't we leave it up to the parents to decide whether they want to use the system instead of passing judgement either way? This is just a method of enforcing parental rules, let the individual parents decide whether their kids need it or not.
that word procesor could be doing advanced grammar analysis, doing a more advanced predictive spellcheck, finding related content on your machine, compiling related help if it thinks you might be stuck on something, generating charts based on figures you are inputting, doing advanced semantic analysis of the text to create a summary (or auto-tagging, sentiment analysis, etc.), maybe even doing some sort of advanced analysis of other texts to auto-complete sentences. That's leaving out the 1000 things that other programs could be doing to make my life better in the background. I think GPU's will go super-multicore too.
I foresee all of this! Don't limit my sweet computing future with your skepticism!
There are a lot of papers on the underlying theories, but there is very little out there that will actually tell you how and when to implement them. Pagerank has really nothing to do with building a search engine, it is just one measurement that goes into determining relevancy. And it isn't applied the way most people think. I would say the best book on search engines is "mining the web" by Soumen Chakrabarti, but it doesn't really talk about implementations. But that's why information retrieval experts get paid the big bucks.
If it were that simple that corporations are always wrong then there may not be lobbyists at all. Lobbyists are there to convince politicians that laws to support the corporation can actually benefit the consumers. Lobbying usually happens in very gray areas, but obviously sometimes they aren't so gray, hence the dirty reputation lobbyists have earned.
Your simplistic definition of corporate interest can also extend to benefitting consumers too. If the corporation can make a greater profit on a product, then they can afford to reduce the price of the product, and make the product better, etc. Thus doing what is in best interest to the corporation is very often what is in the best interest of the consumer. Take a look at Gmail. Sure some people are crying about privacy issues (then don't use it) but the rest of us are weeping with joy about 2 gigs of space and superior features. It wouldn't exist unless they had a business case to create it. And the people that advertise there are very happy about having another medium to reach their audience.
Advertising makes a lot of things free or much cheaper and/or better, I happen to think that is good for both the corporation and the consumer.
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Thank the lord, someone with reason.
Hasn't anybody checked their process list? I currently have 60 processes running, and god knows how many threads. Right now, each of these is playing nice, but they could be doing so much more. Anti-virus/spyware could be ever vigilant, even running multiple threads each, scanning the hard drive, memory, registry etc all the time. I could have programs indexing my hard drive. I could have something encrypting my sensitive data. I could be grabbing RSS data through various feeds and organizing it, extracting knowledge from it, etc.
And those are just things I thought of in 30 seconds for my desktop. For scientific computing, very often you want as much brute force power as you can get, and it doesn't matter how many logical cpu's it is divided into. I have been taking advantage of dual cpu machines for 6+ years because it makes a lot of my apps twice as fast.
And dual core is better than dual cpu because it can be a lot cheaper, and you can always run dual cpu's with dual cores. It's all about packing more power into less space using less electricity for less money.
droids aren't exactly highly regarded by most, and there are tons of duplicate models, so I don't think it's a stretch that threepio isn't recognized by Owen. By Obi Wan maybe, but Owen looked like kind of a retard, and it's not like they had time to get all chummy drinking beers and whoring it up.
I can't read the stupid messed up text thingy that I need to enter to prove I'm not a bot.
Oh, I don't know if Xeons are better head-to-head in I/O, but spreading an index out onto 80 disks (40 xeon servers) is inherently better than 60 (30 opteron servers). However, the search is cpu bound on some searches and then I/O bound (specifically, hd read transfer rate) on others, so that is part of the reason for my vacillation. I hope to be able to optimize the cpu bottlenecks out, but I don't know how much time there will be for that.
$1995 for the base v20z is the cheapest I have found on Sun with a moderate amount of digging, then add the second cpu for $445. Is there another model that is cheaper?
I am building a search engine and for my first big server purchase I will be spending about $60k. Right now I am vacillating between 40x Dell sc1425's with 2x2.8ghz Xeons(64bit), 1gb, and 2x160gb ($1557)or 30x Penguin Computing Altus 1300 with 2x244 Opterons, 1gb, and 2x120gb ($2035).
I am assuming you would lean toward the Penguin side, but since I/O tends to be a major bottleneck with search engines I am leaning towards the Dell's. Also I can get a decent lease through Dell. But I do LOVE Opterons, I have a few already and several Athlon 64's that I run my site off of (dumbfind.com).
I don't have any of the 64 bit Xeon's, but I sent a simple custom benchmark app to a friend that has access to some and I was pretty impressed with the results. The 32bit Xeon's pale in comparison to my AMD chips, but comparing all of the results on all the various chips I have lead me to the conclusion that the 64bit Xeon chips running the 64bit IBM jvm (all my stuff is in Java) made up a ton of ground, and were faster than the opterons in some tests. But the benchmarks are not true representations of how my app will behave so I am still a bit skeptical.
So basically I am a scared and confused little boy about to dole out a good chunk of my initial investment. Any advice you could give would be AWESOME.
Also, do you think that an idiot can figure out how to kickstart all those servers via the network, or will I need a floppy or cd-rom drive in those machines?
You can get a dell sc1425 with 2x2.8ghz xeons and 1GB ram for $1200, but the cheapest you can get a dual opteron sun for is $2444. Do you really think the opterons are more than twice as fast?
I would much rather see the option to control your own news sources on yahoo and google. One of my alerts is for "google" so you can imagine how many articles a day I get sent. It would be nice to only get feeds from say the top 10 newspapers.
against my own. I am in the process of developing a search engine as we speak and I am frequently comparing the results of mine versus all others. Google is still the best by a quite a decent margin, but there is definitely a lot of room for improvement. I will be releasing a new version of my engine in the next few weeks that will hopefully make searching a bit more intuitive for people out there that haven't designed search engines and don't have the benefit of knowing exactly how they work.
Check it out at dumbfind.com.
It is an entirely proprietary system written in Java on Linux.
Please be gentle as it is still very beta.
it is for servers when all you want is the best bang for the buck. it's like, would you rather have 100 crackwhores or just one high-priced hooker? ok, bad example...
without the usps we wouldn't have netflix. I get my movies NEXT BUSINESS DAY every time. without fail. fedex is late according to their estimated arrival times using tracking codes every time, and I live 5 minutes from Washington DC, so it's not like I am in a remote location. And the last fedex overnight package I got arrived 3 days late and looked like it was used in an nhl game. USPS kicks butt.
is you crazy? that is a lot for a cheapo commodity server. I am starting up a search engine and I spend an average of about $300 for a server. Bang for the buck is what it's all about. Ok, even with the dual action going on, I can put together a 1u rack system with dual 2ghz xeons, 2gb RAM, and 2 160gb drives for under $1100. And I bet google can get stuff way cheaper than I can. fyi, that is using an Intel motherboard, samsung memory, and maxtor drives, so it isn't even the worst stuff you can buy.
please tell me you found the article, I have been looking for a decently priced solid state disk for years. What is so hard about having a battery backed up memory board you can put 16gb or more of cheap RAM on? Seems almost trivial. If I were google, I would buy a company just to make me hardware like that. But I am dumbfind, and thus it still doesn't make financial sense.
they are largely ignored because noone really knows exactly what goes on behind the scenes. And even in front of the scenes they are largely ignored. Overture has been suing google ever since google copied their auction-style keyword advertising idea. Google has patents that others are infringing upon, but so far they haven't taken any action (that I have noticed). Most patents issued in search (that I know about anyways) have been sought as defensive moves. I would say you are right to be wary though because there is a war coming and there is too much money involved for the big guys to not pull out all the stops.
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what if firing missiles in your country was legal? would it be ok to fire them into the US? ok, extreme example... what if they were distributing child porn to the US and that was legal in your country? does it make a difference if is it done digitally? does it make a difference if they send it or people here go out and find it? is this a moral issue or a legal one? it would be very easy for them to deny US citizens by simply requiring a credit card to register. they know they are breaking US laws.
how we are "Google-eyed" and that the mumbo jumbo is in the same lettering as Google's logo. This is propaganda at it's best! That said, calling this a "blatant lie" is retarded. This is nowhere near a black and white issue.
How can it be overcharged by 1%? Isn't it just a chemical reaction that is reversed? How do you get past the point of 100% complete reversal of the chemical reaction?
oh god I hope they don't start using these devices to charge us more for improper use of their vehicles. What next? odor sensors to see when I am peeling out? I bought their damn insurance, that gives me the right to take their chevy malibu offroading in a corn field and e-braking it into trash cans setup like bowling pins!
the consumer can't lose here like in the beta vs vhs battle. Early adopters of the beta format got screwed because they bought players and tapes that later became obsolete. It's not like your plasma tv will stop working if lcd's take over. You won't need to go out and switch to lcd. In this case, the best format will probably win, and I don't see a downside anywhere.
Why don't we leave it up to the parents to decide whether they want to use the system instead of passing judgement either way? This is just a method of enforcing parental rules, let the individual parents decide whether their kids need it or not.
that word procesor could be doing advanced grammar analysis, doing a more advanced predictive spellcheck, finding related content on your machine, compiling related help if it thinks you might be stuck on something, generating charts based on figures you are inputting, doing advanced semantic analysis of the text to create a summary (or auto-tagging, sentiment analysis, etc.), maybe even doing some sort of advanced analysis of other texts to auto-complete sentences. That's leaving out the 1000 things that other programs could be doing to make my life better in the background. I think GPU's will go super-multicore too.
I foresee all of this! Don't limit my sweet computing future with your skepticism!
it sure ain't perfect, but at least it's different! www.dumbfind.com
There are a lot of papers on the underlying theories, but there is very little out there that will actually tell you how and when to implement them. Pagerank has really nothing to do with building a search engine, it is just one measurement that goes into determining relevancy. And it isn't applied the way most people think. I would say the best book on search engines is "mining the web" by Soumen Chakrabarti, but it doesn't really talk about implementations. But that's why information retrieval experts get paid the big bucks.
that's because you don't have them wrapped in plastic with 20 rolls of duct tape. DUH.
If it were that simple that corporations are always wrong then there may not be lobbyists at all. Lobbyists are there to convince politicians that laws to support the corporation can actually benefit the consumers. Lobbying usually happens in very gray areas, but obviously sometimes they aren't so gray, hence the dirty reputation lobbyists have earned.
Your simplistic definition of corporate interest can also extend to benefitting consumers too. If the corporation can make a greater profit on a product, then they can afford to reduce the price of the product, and make the product better, etc. Thus doing what is in best interest to the corporation is very often what is in the best interest of the consumer. Take a look at Gmail. Sure some people are crying about privacy issues (then don't use it) but the rest of us are weeping with joy about 2 gigs of space and superior features. It wouldn't exist unless they had a business case to create it. And the people that advertise there are very happy about having another medium to reach their audience.
Advertising makes a lot of things free or much cheaper and/or better, I happen to think that is good for both the corporation and the consumer.
Thank the lord, someone with reason.
Hasn't anybody checked their process list? I currently have 60 processes running, and god knows how many threads. Right now, each of these is playing nice, but they could be doing so much more. Anti-virus/spyware could be ever vigilant, even running multiple threads each, scanning the hard drive, memory, registry etc all the time. I could have programs indexing my hard drive. I could have something encrypting my sensitive data. I could be grabbing RSS data through various feeds and organizing it, extracting knowledge from it, etc.
And those are just things I thought of in 30 seconds for my desktop. For scientific computing, very often you want as much brute force power as you can get, and it doesn't matter how many logical cpu's it is divided into. I have been taking advantage of dual cpu machines for 6+ years because it makes a lot of my apps twice as fast.
And dual core is better than dual cpu because it can be a lot cheaper, and you can always run dual cpu's with dual cores. It's all about packing more power into less space using less electricity for less money.
I'm all for it.
droids aren't exactly highly regarded by most, and there are tons of duplicate models, so I don't think it's a stretch that threepio isn't recognized by Owen. By Obi Wan maybe, but Owen looked like kind of a retard, and it's not like they had time to get all chummy drinking beers and whoring it up.
I can't read the stupid messed up text thingy that I need to enter to prove I'm not a bot.
Oh, I don't know if Xeons are better head-to-head in I/O, but spreading an index out onto 80 disks (40 xeon servers) is inherently better than 60 (30 opteron servers). However, the search is cpu bound on some searches and then I/O bound (specifically, hd read transfer rate) on others, so that is part of the reason for my vacillation. I hope to be able to optimize the cpu bottlenecks out, but I don't know how much time there will be for that.
$1995 for the base v20z is the cheapest I have found on Sun with a moderate amount of digging, then add the second cpu for $445. Is there another model that is cheaper?
I am building a search engine and for my first big server purchase I will be spending about $60k. Right now I am vacillating between 40x Dell sc1425's with 2x2.8ghz Xeons(64bit), 1gb, and 2x160gb ($1557)or 30x Penguin Computing Altus 1300 with 2x244 Opterons, 1gb, and 2x120gb ($2035).
I am assuming you would lean toward the Penguin side, but since I/O tends to be a major bottleneck with search engines I am leaning towards the Dell's. Also I can get a decent lease through Dell. But I do LOVE Opterons, I have a few already and several Athlon 64's that I run my site off of (dumbfind.com). I don't have any of the 64 bit Xeon's, but I sent a simple custom benchmark app to a friend that has access to some and I was pretty impressed with the results. The 32bit Xeon's pale in comparison to my AMD chips, but comparing all of the results on all the various chips I have lead me to the conclusion that the 64bit Xeon chips running the 64bit IBM jvm (all my stuff is in Java) made up a ton of ground, and were faster than the opterons in some tests. But the benchmarks are not true representations of how my app will behave so I am still a bit skeptical.
So basically I am a scared and confused little boy about to dole out a good chunk of my initial investment. Any advice you could give would be AWESOME.
Also, do you think that an idiot can figure out how to kickstart all those servers via the network, or will I need a floppy or cd-rom drive in those machines?
thanks!
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You can get a dell sc1425 with 2x2.8ghz xeons and 1GB ram for $1200, but the cheapest you can get a dual opteron sun for is $2444. Do you really think the opterons are more than twice as fast?
I would much rather see the option to control your own news sources on yahoo and google. One of my alerts is for "google" so you can imagine how many articles a day I get sent. It would be nice to only get feeds from say the top 10 newspapers.
that search on dumbfind.com gives the right answer in the number 1 spot too! Does that make it better than Yahoo and MSN? I will settle for 2nd...
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against my own. I am in the process of developing a search engine as we speak and I am frequently comparing the results of mine versus all others. Google is still the best by a quite a decent margin, but there is definitely a lot of room for improvement. I will be releasing a new version of my engine in the next few weeks that will hopefully make searching a bit more intuitive for people out there that haven't designed search engines and don't have the benefit of knowing exactly how they work. Check it out at dumbfind.com. It is an entirely proprietary system written in Java on Linux. Please be gentle as it is still very beta.
it is for servers when all you want is the best bang for the buck. it's like, would you rather have 100 crackwhores or just one high-priced hooker? ok, bad example...
without the usps we wouldn't have netflix. I get my movies NEXT BUSINESS DAY every time. without fail. fedex is late according to their estimated arrival times using tracking codes every time, and I live 5 minutes from Washington DC, so it's not like I am in a remote location. And the last fedex overnight package I got arrived 3 days late and looked like it was used in an nhl game. USPS kicks butt.
is you crazy? that is a lot for a cheapo commodity server. I am starting up a search engine and I spend an average of about $300 for a server. Bang for the buck is what it's all about. Ok, even with the dual action going on, I can put together a 1u rack system with dual 2ghz xeons, 2gb RAM, and 2 160gb drives for under $1100. And I bet google can get stuff way cheaper than I can. fyi, that is using an Intel motherboard, samsung memory, and maxtor drives, so it isn't even the worst stuff you can buy.
please tell me you found the article, I have been looking for a decently priced solid state disk for years. What is so hard about having a battery backed up memory board you can put 16gb or more of cheap RAM on? Seems almost trivial. If I were google, I would buy a company just to make me hardware like that. But I am dumbfind, and thus it still doesn't make financial sense.
they are largely ignored because noone really knows exactly what goes on behind the scenes. And even in front of the scenes they are largely ignored. Overture has been suing google ever since google copied their auction-style keyword advertising idea. Google has patents that others are infringing upon, but so far they haven't taken any action (that I have noticed). Most patents issued in search (that I know about anyways) have been sought as defensive moves. I would say you are right to be wary though because there is a war coming and there is too much money involved for the big guys to not pull out all the stops.
well they should be! the titans will fall! muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha -cough-
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