A: China probably knows that North Korea has launched nukes.
B: Overall, the wind usually goes to the east, or at least it does in Australia, and I would imagine it does in the rest of the world
C: Good point
You may want to see the
post that I was replying to. It should explain my point a bit more.
I said as far as things have been going. "As far as things have been going" != "some day".
I'll stop criticising it when you have an effective missile defence system which could save me from a nuclear attack. So far this has not been the case.
The whole point of the post was really that ABM systems are not an effective bargaining chip when many other methods of attack are avilable.
My point is that any nuclear attack using missiles is suicidal, and your country is going to shoot back, quite possibly before the first missiles hit.
Face it, no-one is going to launch missiles at you.
The reason I said it like I did was because you said that the USA would use it so that they have NUKES and are able to use them, and their enemies do not. In reality this would not be the case, because their are many other attack vectors which an ICBM shield cannot stop (truck, boat, cruise missile, plane, etc).
How about we just agree that as far as things have been going, the whole program is a waste of money?
But you don't want isolate people from what's going on underneath too much, because you may need to know it later.
My first language was C++, did it when I was 8. I've always had a soft spot for C and C++ (C especially).
It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to students
that have had prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are
mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.
-- Edsger W. Dijkstra, SIGPLAN Notices, Volume 17, Number 5
Says it all really. That's why I don't like the idea of teaching VB in school...I learnt it, and it took years to be able to program again with any recognisable style at all;)
And anyway, it's not like I'm saying I'm much better, it's 2:30AM here, and I've been stuck on this one compile error saying I have the wrong number of arguments to an operator I haven't used for about half an hour.
And since it is 2:30, please ignore anything really, really stupid that I have said;)
Even if you ignore the fact that teachers watch
you all the time, listen in on your conversations,
and can punish you for things that you say in
private conversations, there are other things,
which seem to amount to either stupidity or
amazingly elitist administrators.
Things like: there's a thunderstorm. It's
10 degrees outside. Do you let people walk
through the front office, or make everyone
(except the teachers of course) go outside, on
the other side of the school, since there is no
outside door on that side of the school, and walk
~50m in a storm.
Naturally, you get in shit if you just go through the front office anyway.
I don't really care that much, but it just seems
to demonstrate that people don't tend to really
think of children as being actual people.
Either that or everyone over 25 or so are all
more elitist than any linux user (I am one, so
don't flame me).
Kids are stupider than you think. At my school,
next year (yr 10), the two IT (and I use the
term loosely) classes are game creation and web
design. No, not development, design.
Game creation, at least the complicated part, is
coding in Javascript. And there may not be any
of that. The program that we use advertises
itself as being able to be done "without a line
of code".
Web design isn't much better, it's all frontpage
and IE there. Apparently in year 11, you're
supposed to be smart enough to use Dreamweaver.
No mention of gVim/Notepad at all.
No wonder the internet is like it is today.
It seems like no-one can take the time to learn
even basic computer skills. I don't actually
know ANYONE who knows any sort of real
programming language (C/C++/Java/Perl/Python are
the ones that come to mind). I know one who
knows php, one who can do very limited shell
scripting, and one who is starting to get the
basics of the crypto stuff down. And I wouldn't
exactly say my C/C++/Java/Perl is all that great.
And I've been doing python for (looks at watch)
18 hours.
Maybe I'm just at a fairly technically-illiterate
school, maybe in other places it's different.
But here, they eliminated the computer programming
course (VB) because it was too complicated and
no-one understood it. Speaks for itself really.
I'll have a look at that AI contest though, I used
to be top in the state at computers back in year
6/7, maybe I'll be able to get back up to a more
acceptable standard.
They still have to keep training new recruits. A Windows using company has millions of Windows users that an work for them without being trained in Linux.
I still think Linux is the greatest desktop ever though.
Unless your computer won't allow you to run ANY non sysadmin-approved executables, then you can still run it, by just downloading it to your home directory.
IE just happens to already be installed on the computers, and will cut download time.
Last time it happened to me I lost coverage for 4 hours, at my friends' cd launch.
My parents tend to trust me though (I came out, walking around the area trying to get a signal somewhere, and then found out my mum had been out the front for 45 minutes), and nothing really happened, even though I came out later than they had expected, smelling strongly of cigarette smoke (no, I don't smoke, it was from people around me).
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It depends...I still prefer CRT screens, and AFAIK, artists do as well.
A: China probably knows that North Korea has launched nukes.
B: Overall, the wind usually goes to the east, or at least it does in Australia, and I would imagine it does in the rest of the world
C: Good point
You may want to see the post that I was replying to. It should explain my point a bit more.
It's a waste of money when the main attack vector is probably going to be a truck.
I said as far as things have been going. "As far as things have been going" != "some day".
I'll stop criticising it when you have an effective missile defence system which could save me from a nuclear attack. So far this has not been the case.
The whole point of the post was really that ABM systems are not an effective bargaining chip when many other methods of attack are avilable.
My point is that any nuclear attack using missiles is suicidal, and your country is going to shoot back, quite possibly before the first missiles hit.
Face it, no-one is going to launch missiles at you.
The reason I said it like I did was because you said that the USA would use it so that they have NUKES and are able to use them, and their enemies do not. In reality this would not be the case, because their are many other attack vectors which an ICBM shield cannot stop (truck, boat, cruise missile, plane, etc).
How about we just agree that as far as things have been going, the whole program is a waste of money?
Well it's probably cheaper to fire it than it is to keep it stored.
Note the distinction between missiles and nukes.
Find a missile defense system that can find which truck on the freeway is carrying a nuke, and then destroy it, and maybe your argument would work.
The internet is already a ghetto of spyware, crackers, and phishers.
Already most computers are full of spyware and viruses, what makes you think people are going to suddenly start caring?
If you rob a bank, usually, you go in there with guns, and there is the risk that people get killed.
That is somewhat worse than getting CC#s though an open WiFi network.
My first language was C++, did it when I was 8. I've always had a soft spot for C and C++ (C especially).
Says it all really. That's why I don't like the idea of teaching VB in school...I learnt it, and it took years to be able to program again with any recognisable style at all
And anyway, it's not like I'm saying I'm much better, it's 2:30AM here, and I've been stuck on this one compile error saying I have the wrong number of arguments to an operator I haven't used for about half an hour.
And since it is 2:30, please ignore anything really, really stupid that I have said
Actually, I know a few people who tried to learn C on their own, like I did.
Not ONE made it past "Hello World".
Actually, I was quite surprised to find out that out of all my friends, I'm the only person who can do any work in the engine of a car at all.
;)
;)
Actually, there's one person, but that's it.
Do you think that things like that should be applied to computers? Oh wait...i do think that
If you want to make things more...interesting, unplug the distributor from the spark plugs. Better hope he/she knows the firing order
And then there's what thing are like in schools.
Even if you ignore the fact that teachers watch you all the time, listen in on your conversations, and can punish you for things that you say in private conversations, there are other things, which seem to amount to either stupidity or amazingly elitist administrators.
Things like: there's a thunderstorm. It's 10 degrees outside. Do you let people walk through the front office, or make everyone (except the teachers of course) go outside, on the other side of the school, since there is no outside door on that side of the school, and walk ~50m in a storm.
Naturally, you get in shit if you just go through the front office anyway.
I don't really care that much, but it just seems to demonstrate that people don't tend to really think of children as being actual people.
Either that or everyone over 25 or so are all more elitist than any linux user (I am one, so don't flame me).
Kids are stupider than you think. At my school, next year (yr 10), the two IT (and I use the term loosely) classes are game creation and web design. No, not development, design.
Game creation, at least the complicated part, is coding in Javascript. And there may not be any of that. The program that we use advertises itself as being able to be done "without a line of code".
Web design isn't much better, it's all frontpage and IE there. Apparently in year 11, you're supposed to be smart enough to use Dreamweaver.
No mention of gVim/Notepad at all.
No wonder the internet is like it is today.
It seems like no-one can take the time to learn even basic computer skills. I don't actually know ANYONE who knows any sort of real programming language (C/C++/Java/Perl/Python are the ones that come to mind). I know one who knows php, one who can do very limited shell scripting, and one who is starting to get the basics of the crypto stuff down. And I wouldn't exactly say my C/C++/Java/Perl is all that great. And I've been doing python for (looks at watch) 18 hours.
Maybe I'm just at a fairly technically-illiterate school, maybe in other places it's different.
But here, they eliminated the computer programming course (VB) because it was too complicated and no-one understood it. Speaks for itself really.
I'll have a look at that AI contest though, I used to be top in the state at computers back in year 6/7, maybe I'll be able to get back up to a more acceptable standard.
The way I see things, it doesn't matter which way the data is flowing, what's important is which client makes the connection.
What it means is, the server calls listen(2), and the client calls connect(2). That is all that really matters. Everything else is irrelevant.
Yes, I know this ignores the existance of UDP. For that, just let the client be whichever one sends the datagram first.
Let's see what happens when they try to take C
You do change the config files...right?
According to The translator :
TAHT COM3NT SUK3D1!11111! OMG WTF LOL
Or better yet, take the American one off the flagpole, put a Chinese one in its place, and athen duct tape the american one underneath.
Can anyone think of a truly 2-D input/output device?
A mouse?
They still have to keep training new recruits. A Windows using company has millions of Windows users that an work for them without being trained in Linux.
I still think Linux is the greatest desktop ever though.
But more people = more retraining, and more training of new recruits, since they are probably just windows users.
Unless your computer won't allow you to run ANY non sysadmin-approved executables, then you can still run it, by just downloading it to your home directory.
IE just happens to already be installed on the computers, and will cut download time.
Last time it happened to me I lost coverage for 4 hours, at my friends' cd launch.
My parents tend to trust me though (I came out, walking around the area trying to get a signal somewhere, and then found out my mum had been out the front for 45 minutes), and nothing really happened, even though I came out later than they had expected, smelling strongly of cigarette smoke (no, I don't smoke, it was from people around me).
WTF???? What country are you in that regards a child as not being a person????