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PARC Signs On A Partner: Fujitsu

leighklotz writes "PARC, which a few years ago was said be be targeted for a spin-off from Xerox, has signed on its first major partner under its new life as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Xerox. Fujitsu has announced "Joint Research in Ubiquitous Computing," a three-year sponsored-research plan beginning in January 2005. 'Because we're not a product company, we need a partner like Fujitsu who can deliver our products into the marketplace,' said Teresa Lunt, according to InfoWorld."

96 comments

  1. Marketing is important by sjrstory · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This partnership makes perfect sense for PARC. Marking (or lack thereof) can make or break a company regardless of if they have a good product or not. These days there are so many names and buzz words flying about that serious effort (ie money and advertising talent) must be made to boost brand name recognition.

    1. Re:Marketing is important by tangledweb · · Score: 1

      Calling it a partnership is all well and good, but these sorts of things are a very delicate balance.

      The goal of creating good ideas is nearly always in conflict with with the goal of creating products that can be commercialised this year or next year.

      How much budget and work could you justify devoting to a GUI in the mid 70s if you knew that the technology would be too expensive to sell for 10 years and impossible to patent at that time?

  2. Re:rucas by devexial · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    darn

  3. Now, at last by RealProgrammer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fujitsu will make something that works.

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    1. Re:Now, at last by erikharrison · · Score: 1

      That's right! Because PARC has such a _great_ history creating lasting tools and products!

    2. Re:Now, at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummmm, yeah, like the mouse, GUI, WYSIWYG, and ethernet, to name a few.

    3. Re:Now, at last by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ummm.... what does Fujitsu make that is broken?

      (I've worked with their SPARC and Dual XEON servers. They seem to be doing better than Extreme's network equipment...)

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    4. Re:Now, at last by erikharrison · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Historically, PARC is much like any other (good) think tank. Neat ideas, poor implementations, left for others to mature.

      The grandparent's claim that PARC will help Fujitsu produce stable products is amusing because of this. The people who made the mouse, GUI, WYSIWYG, and ethernet make money are Apple, Apple, Apple, and 3COM, respectively, not PARC

    5. Re:Now, at last by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Uh, you know those original IBM keyboards that everyone raves about? They're made by Fujitsu. I had one that was Fujitsu-labelled back in 1991, and it was only a couple of years ago, when I moved house and had to let go of some unused hardware, that it left my possession in full working order.

      On a secondary note, notice how Fujitsu is a Japanese company? If keeping the high-tech industry and high-tech jobs in America is such a big deal then why is it that there wasn't a single US company prepared to fight for a partnership with PARC? Granted, IBM is exiting the PC arena but PARC is about more than just developing for the desktop, and I would have thought that the PR benefits of dealing with the home of the GUI would be to die for for Apple, HP or someone similar.

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    6. Re:Now, at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Hmmm, guess where 3Com came from. Also, a poor implementation was hardly the reason for the failure of many of the Xerox products. You can scoff all you want at Xerox' poor business sense but you can't criticize PARC's technology implementations.

    7. Re:Now, at last by iocat · · Score: 4, Informative

      Despite PARCs perceived failures (like not capitalizing commercially on the GUI), its creation of the laser printer more than made the entire endeavor profitable for Xerox. I suggest reading Dealers of Lightning for a great history of Xerox PARC.

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    8. Re:Now, at last by phaze3000 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Actually, I've had nothing but good experiences with Fujitsu stuff. I'm a big fan in particlar of the Fujitsu-Siemens notebooks (and as far as I'm aware they're much more Fujitsu than Siemens). They seem to be one of the few companies targetting what I want in a laptop - something that's as small and light as possible whilst still being useful, as opposed to the portable desktops many other people produce (IMO 17" screens are really not suitable for laptops).

      I've used a fair few Fujitsu servers without any problems too..

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    9. Re:Now, at last by euxneks · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I am now typing on a Fujitsu keyboard. It's very nice.. Clicky clicky. =) It's big, and heavy, but I can probably type faster with this keyboard than any other keyboard I've ever used.

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    10. Re:Now, at last by Piquan · · Score: 1

      Fujitsu will make something that works.

      And PARC will make something.

    11. Re:Now, at last by anagama · · Score: 1

      • Uh, you know those original IBM keyboards that everyone raves about? They're made by Fujitsu. I had one that was Fujitsu-labelled back in 1991

      Hmmm, just hefted my IBM badged board upside down (straining my shoulder in the process):

      • ...
      • Date: 06NOV89
      • Plt F2 Model M
      • Made in the USA

      Cool thing, even being 15 years old, it has ps/2 plug (makes sense I suppose being an IBM) as opposed to the big old plug (DIN?).
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    12. Re:Now, at last by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

      The one that I had had a older DIN connection rather than a PS/2 one. If it had had the PS/2 connection then I probably would have kept it around a bit longer, but there was little justification for keeping a keyboard (albeit an excellent keyboard) when buying an adapter so that I could use it again would have cost me almost as much as I paid for the keyboard in the first place (a bargain £11 back in 1991).

      Besides, I'm so used to using a split-key keyboard nowadays that using a traditional keyboard layout is a step backwards in terms of both speed and comfort, so it's doubtful that I would have used it anyhow.

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    13. Re:Now, at last by scottp1296 · · Score: 1

      Those 'failures' have more to do with the morons that led, and are leading Xerox, than failures on the part of PARC's scientists.

    14. Re:Now, at last by RealProgrammer · · Score: 1

      >hat does Fujitsu make that is broken?

      Hard drives that grind and blow smoke, mostly. I guess I've just always thought of them as a second-quality manufacturer.

      Plus, I'm sorry, their name is just funny to say.

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    15. Re:Now, at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fujitsu will get the geek respect it deserves. They make some nice stuff and stand behind it. Their P2120 Transmeta based notebook was a great product. Have had mine running Linux since purchase 18 months back.

    16. Re:Now, at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dealers of lightning is one of the best books ive ever read. mmmmmmmmm parc......

    17. Re:Now, at last by PalmKiller · · Score: 1

      Same here, their hard drives might be lack luster though I have some and they seem to last about as well as any, but their business products I use rock. Fujitsu document scanners (not the home toys but the 5K-20K 20-90 ppm real documet scanners) rock. I have some that were made in 1995 - 2004 all good scanners that require little maintenance (remove paper shards when they get in the way of optical switches which is rare, change the rubber paper guide and clean the rollers every 6 months ... replace pinch rollers if needed). I have never had any electronics on these die nor scan heads and we scan several hundreds to a few thousand documents a day on each one. I have 4990C, 4097D, 3096EX, 3096E+ and 3093GX (aka scanpartner 93GX) scanners all are solid, all are in prefect working condition. Fujitsu as far as I am concerned make great products that last and perform day in, day out.

    18. Re:Now, at last by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1
      If keeping the high-tech industry and high-tech jobs in America is such a big deal then why is it that there wasn't a single US company prepared to fight for a partnership with PARC?

      Because we don't do R here anymore. And we oursource D to Maylaysia and India. And we got rid of manufacturing years ago. What do we do these days? Sue, market, and surf, baby... sue, market, and surf...

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  4. Except... by jtbauki · · Score: 0, Redundant

    That's great. So many great inventions came from there. All these intelligent inventions designed for one purpose: porn.

  5. New "stylez" by boingyzain · · Score: 0

    I wonder if they were PARCAs there.

  6. May I speak for all of Slashdot when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...I ask what in the hell you're talking about?

    1. Re:May I speak for all of Slashdot when... by sjrstory · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "Because we're not a product company, we need a partner like Fujitsu who can deliver our products into the marketplace"

      Fujitsu *IS* a product company, and have a sizable marketing department.

    2. Re:May I speak for all of Slashdot when... by Rotund+Prickpull · · Score: 0
      Fujitsu *IS* a product company, and have a sizable marketing department.
      s/product/fucking shit/

      s/marketing department/number of total retards/

  7. And this time... by Nonillion · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't let Steve Jobs and Bill Gates rip off your hard work.....

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    1. Re:And this time... by bionicyeti · · Score: 0

      Don't watch documentaries and throw everything you learned into a slashdot post!!!

  8. You know... by slyxter · · Score: 0

    In Korea only wholly-owned subsidiaries of old companies need to partner with hard drive companies. Ok, sorry.

  9. Pc load letter... WTF does that mean? by deepcameo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Xerox shouldn't start spinning things off untill they can make a user friendly copier that doesn't leave one wondering... PC load letter?

    1. Re:Pc load letter... WTF does that mean? by QuaZar666 · · Score: 2, Informative

      you must have never used one one of their Xerox Docutech stations which has lights to tell you when a tray is out of paper. Now it still will use paper as long as one of the other trays contain the same type of paper, which can be set within the system.

      - Qua

    2. Re:Pc load letter... WTF does that mean? by deepcameo · · Score: 1

      Nice

    3. Re:Pc load letter... WTF does that mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mid '80s

      Using the Interlisp-D environment, PARC researchers develop Trillium and Pride expert systems for artificial intelligence programming. Trillium enables the quick simulation of new user interface designs. Pride captures engineers' experiences and "rules of thumb" for designing paper paths using pinch rollers.

      Xerox markets Lisp workstations that use the Interlisp-D programming language to support artificial intelligence programming as well as applications utilized within Xerox. Developed as a computing environment for research in cognitive science, Interlisp-D combines ideas for rapid prototyping frylock dies at the end of athf with explicit knowledge representation. With the Loops object-oriented extensions, it will be used to develop a number of valuable knowledge-based systems for Xerox.

      1983

      The Superpaint frame buffer wins Xerox and its inventor an Emmy award. The frame buffer enabled faster processing of memory intensive animation and graphics for the Alto and 8010 STAR's personal workstations' advanced graphical user interfaces.

      PARC's gallium arsenide-based solid-state laser research results in hundreds of patents to date. To exploit this work, Spectra Diode Labs, Inc. (SDL), a joint venture between Xerox and Spectra Physics, Inc., is formed. SDL will develop, manufacture, and market high-power state-of-the-art solid-state semiconductor laser diodes and will become the industry's world leader.

      A one-inch array of amorphous silicon thin-film transistors to drive a small corjet ionographic print head is made. This technology will have many applications in printing and input scanning, and will lead to an architecture to enable a low-end multifunction machine which can print, scan and copy.

      1982

      An optical cable local area network is designed. Fiber optic media for the Ethernet will later be commercialized through the spin out company Synoptics Communications, Inc.

      The 100,000-square foot addition to the 3333 Coyote Hill site is completed.

      A multiple-stripe principle for high continuous power for solid-state lasers is demonstrated. One-watt optical power (up 20X) is achieved. This tiny solid-state laser device has a higher radiation power output than has been achieved anywhere else in the world. Higher output lasers will be incorporated in Xerox copiers and printers.

      The Xerox 8700 electronic printing system, which produces and prints computer-generated text, business forms and other images at 70 pages per minute, is released. The system includes high-speed electronic storage system, page description language, acousto-optical modulation, and Ethernet technologies from PARC.

      The Xerox 1075 copier/duplicator, which uses the Ethernet principal to facilitate varying the document handling and output sorting configurations, is released. Xerox's 10 Series Marathon copiers are the first to use numerous built-in microcomputers with a low-bandwidth Ethernet as the communications interface.

      The IEEE adopts a standard that is almost pure Ethernet. The Ethernet standard spawned a series of increasingly sophisticated networking protocols that not only enabled distributed computing, but led to a re-architecting of the internal computer-to-computer communication within Xerox copiers and duplicators. The Ethernet will become the global standard for interconnecting computers on local-area networks.

      1981

      At a Chicago tradeshow, Xerox unveils the 8010 STAR Information System. PARC's Alto personal workstation is the foundation for this product. The 8010's features include all of the Alto's capabilities plus multilingual software, the Mesa programming language, and interim file servers. The system allows users to create complex documents by combining computing, text editing and graphics, and to access file servers and printers around the world through simple point-and-click actions, a functionality that has yet to be matched by today's computing systems.

      1980

      Optimem is spun out to commercialize n

    4. Re:Pc load letter... WTF does that mean? by iocat · · Score: 1

      PC Load Letter = an HP invention. Duh.

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    5. Re:Pc load letter... WTF does that mean? by g0hare · · Score: 1

      try one of those Gesteners. You'll beg for your Xerox.

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    6. Re:Pc load letter... WTF does that mean? by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      It means the person who configured your copier/MFD forgot to configure the paper size override control.

      Someone is printing to the copier with US Letter selected as the paper size (the default configuration on pretty much all printer setups). You apparently don't have US Letter loaded in your copier, I would presume you probably have ISO A4 loaded.

      It is possible on all the current models to configure the copier to automatically default to A4 for any US Letter requests - I had to get our office MFD configured that way because I couldn't teach the users to configure their default printer setting to A4 and IT persist on setting up print queues which default to US Letter.

      To check this, print a "Printer Configuration report" from your MFD, find the setting flag, and place a service call (assuiming you are under contract), the engineer can reconfigure it for you.

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  10. Excellent news, but what's next? by jarich · · Score: 2, Funny
    So, when will PARC be able to copy this again? They'll need all their game pieces in place if they want to be able to have a monopoly.

    ;)

    Seriously though, if they can spin off another group, it can be parallel PARC-ing while the other group drives on.

    (Ducking and running now)

    1. Re:Excellent news, but what's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might even say the company's name sounds like PARK.

  11. Before you ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    1. Re:Before you ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

    2. Re:Before you ask by eclectro · · Score: 1, Funny

      Teresa Lunt is not cute

      Yes, but her teeth are straight, which is enough for any nerd.

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    3. Re:Before you ask by IvyKing · · Score: 1
      She is where she is because of her brains not looks.

      She comes across as being unpretentious - more of the kind of woman that I'd like to get to know rather than a woman that I would be showing off to the guys.

    4. Re:Before you ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jest lean her head out the winder befor' ya hit it! That way ya never gets to see 'er face!

    5. Re:Before you ask by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      Thanks for letting us know - found your comment while meta-modding, wanted to see the context - and the picture you refer to is no more ...

      It's doubtful that, 3 days later, xerox is still slashdotted ...

      Guess Ms. Lunt reads slashdot.

  12. joke by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    I KNOW there's a joke in there somewhere about blowing the payoff of anything big that Xerox comes up with, but I'm too tired to think of one.

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  13. RC, ARC, PARC, SPARC by morcheeba · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok, I should have seen this coming. Fujitsu sells RC extraction tools, has licensed an ARC core and they make SPARC processors. Obviously PARC was the missing link!

    1. Re:RC, ARC, PARC, SPARC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      FARC your right!

    2. Re:RC, ARC, PARC, SPARC by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      Let's see what happens when they try to take C

    3. Re:RC, ARC, PARC, SPARC by FrYGuY101 · · Score: 1

      Well, they have a C-Series of notebooks... that count?

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  14. Hey, look right next door! by awtbfb · · Score: 1, Informative

    This announcement is not a huge surprise. FX Palo Alto Laboratory (FXPAL) is on the same block as PARC. FX as in Fuji Xerox.

    1. Re:Hey, look right next door! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell does Fuji have to do with Fujitsu?

    2. Re:Hey, look right next door! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is Fuji somehow related to Fujitsu - other than both being Japanese?

    3. Re:Hey, look right next door! by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
      What the hell does Fuji have to do with Fujitsu?

      Four letters.

    4. Re:Hey, look right next door! by PalmKiller · · Score: 1

      Well the family is named Fuji, Fujitsu is a spinoff of Fuji Electric in the beginnings. I think Fujitsu (aka Fuji Electric, or Fuji for short for us old timers) and FujiFilm naming their merger with xerox as Fuji Xerox does warrant some confusion since indeed Fujitsu was once part of Fuji Electric.

  15. Who needs others... by Infonaut · · Score: 4, Insightful
    to stereotype geeks, when we do it so nicely to ourselves.

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  16. Buy! by mrshoe · · Score: 3, Funny

    Quick, buy some Fujitsu stock... they're bound to steal some revolutionary ideas the guys at PARC have been sitting on unknowingly.

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  17. Uh, no [was:Hey, look right next door!] by GoBears · · Score: 2, Informative

    Fuji Xerox is a joint venture between Fuji Film and Xerox. Whereas Fujitsu is a computer company, analogous in a number of ways to IBM.

  18. Uh? by priestx · · Score: 0

    Printable Software and Cuttable Hardware?

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  19. And this time...Alternate copycat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Don't let Steve Jobs and Bill Gates rip off your hard work....."

    Yeah! Let the OSS community do it.

  20. Best News of All: Fujitsu is a Western Company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The best news is that Fujitsu is a Western company, and PARC will be allying with a company that can be trusted to protect Western society. The worst case scenario is where a Chinese company partners with PARC and gets access to the very best computer science research in the world. The Chinese would use this technology to fine tune their weapons.

    Buddha has smiled on the West.

  21. Re:Marking is important by fireboy1919 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I agree. Just the other day, I heard about a company went under when they fired their star programmer for leaving a disk labeled "main project-2004" on his desk (which was used in a presentation to the venture capitalists), instead of marking it "Sesame street - hardcore pr0n." He just didn't have a marker.

    To make a long story short, the company didn't get the investment they needed due to a bad presentation, and they went under.

    I don't think Fujitsu is really known for it's marking...shouldn't they have merged with another company?

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  22. From the blurb... by Infinityis · · Score: 1

    "PARC, which a few years ago was said be be targeted for a spin-off from Xerox"

    Hmm, looks like the Xerox copying feature got got out of hand...

    1. Re:From the blurb... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I pressed Submit instead of Preview. They are shaped identically and located next to each other...

  23. Oh Really now? by infonography · · Score: 1

    I worked with them back in 96, Hal Computers. First Ultrasparc to market. Even beat Sun Micro, but they never took it anywhere. They sucked the tech out of the company and then tried to corner the Asian UNIX market. They may make it work but they won't bother to do so here.

    Now don't get me wrong, I liked them. But their focus isn't the West. They are strong on their base and may be angling to just snap it up. Time will tell.

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  24. Apple? by koi88 · · Score: 2, Funny


    Because we're not a product company, we need a partner like Fujitsu who can deliver our products into the marketplace,'

    I thought this is Apple's job...

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  25. Re:Marking is important by anagama · · Score: 2, Insightful

    my goodness, I hope (but doubt) that the "interesting" mod is a continuation of the joke posed by the parent post. Somehow though, I think that "insightful" would have been funnier. Someone with mod points willing to correct? hint: mark it "funny".

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  26. Wait a minute! by AbraCadaver · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did you just say "let go of some unused hardware"?? That's it, hand in your slashdot number! No self respecting geek actually gets rid of old hardware, it's suppose to just get burried underneath all the other junk -
    Like, For example, the Timex Sinclair 1000 I found recently while moving a small stack of books and papers :P

    1. Re:Wait a minute! by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

      When you're moving home and your junk outweighs here junk by an order of manitude plus then it's something you have to do.

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    2. Re:Wait a minute! by afd8856 · · Score: 1

      The wife / girlfriend / fiance will usually be the cause. That is my case at least... I guess they have more common sense than us.

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    3. Re:Wait a minute! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's suppose to

      "supposed".

  27. what os runs on PARC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is it the os called Polaris? was the original company that started parc named pun?

  28. Steve "the mouse" Jobs by Easy2RememberNick · · Score: 1

    Yeah PARC makes great things. I like the story of when Steve Jobs visited PARC and "stealing" the idea for the mouse.

    btw both of my Fujitsu hard drives failed. Needless to say I never bought a third one. Fool me twice, shame on me!

  29. Wait a minute!-A Fine Affair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Like, For example, the Timex Sinclair 1000 I found recently while moving a small stack of books and papers :P"

    The library called. They want those overdue books back.

  30. Re:PARC Sounds Like an Engineer's Dream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm not willing to become a homosexual Socialist for any job
    But it worked so well for Arnold!
  31. Re:Marking is important by PalmKiller · · Score: 1

    Um, guys I think this was meant to be funny, it was a pun on his use of marking, as apposed to marketing in the parent post

  32. Re:Marking is important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    known for it's marking

    "its".

    Don't make fun of others' typos.

  33. Fuji* [was:Hey, look right next door!] by GoBears · · Score: 1

    Interesting! Certainly Fujitsu acknowledges its roots in Fuji Electric, so I see your point. However, the relationship still appears to be one of accidental name resemblance - the company that currently operates as Fuji Electric denies being related to Fuji (Photo) Film...

  34. Japanese partnerships by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

    On a secondary note, notice how Fujitsu is a Japanese company?

    I work for Xerox in Australia - where it is called Fuji-Xerox. 75% owned by Fuji Film (Japan) and 25% owned by Xerox (USA).

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  35. But I thought,,, by CodeWanker · · Score: 1

    Fujitsu was a martial art practiced during sex.

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