Not everything sold through Amazon is Amazon.. there are a few flaky vendors in there.. I've only had one purchase myself that I wasn't 100 percent satisfied that I got what I ordered, and this was one of those vendors.. I ordered a phone system for the house, and it was supposed to be black, but the phones were silver.. it also wasn't in the original packaging, and no manual.. I could have been justified in returning it, but the color wasn't that big a deal, it was the same model, and although not in the original box, it wasn't used.. The manual took me a few minutes to find on the net and print.. works just like it should.
I guess everyone has different levels of what they will accept before returning things ordered online.. If I had a higher rate of failure, such as the guy in the article, I think I would be shopping elsewhere.. It would just be too much hassel to pack it up and get an RMA number, drive to UPS, and all the other hoops you have to jump.. So I tend to agree with you that there is something wrong with someone who continues to do the same thing over and over,, It's like a guy going to a restuarant every day and complaining about the food to get a free meal.. he's either crazy, or just enjoys the attention of someone who will address his complaints (right up to the point they ban him).
In 10,000 years as the clock nears the end.. the future humans will all be predicting the end of the world, because the ancient humans from the 20th centurury must have known somthing they didn't otherwise they would have made the clock go beyong 10,000 years.
The thing I don't like about "thin client" systems.. is it's like showing up for work, and finding that your desk has been replaced with a table.. Now the reason tables are better is because sometimes you have people who forget their lunch in their desk, and that causes ants.. so the best thing to do is take away all the desk drawers.. tables are cheaper than desks anyway.
In a perfect world, I suppose you would never have a worker drone mess up their work station requiring IT to waste valuable pencils to the ceiling time fixing it.. but that doesn't mean that all the drones, or even most of them are bad.. perhaps time would be better spent in repairing or replacing the drones that are the problem.. I mean keeping your workstation going and not doing things that will screw it up.. is not exactly rocket science.. perhaps those drones shouldn't be in the position they are in.
That this story is seen as anything but flame-bait
Yeah, I get it.. companies have been taking advantage of loop-holes and getting tax credits they don't deserve.. News ??... Oh wait, there is a new administration, and the latest slashgroupthink is that the new administration is for the corporations and out to screw us, because they want to drop a case against the old administration.. rather than legally fight for policies that they didn't implement... So let's just look really hard and see if there isn't anything else we can't prove our well informed theories of this administrations industrial complex leanings
This tax thing not the new administrations latest attempt to screw you.. that was done a couple years ago.. and hey you got a little spittle there.. might want to get yourself a handkerchief.
And now, after the other guy attempts to clear things up about this Bush tax credit not being the stimulus package, you throw in the bailout (Also different than the stimulus package and passed under Bush).. I feel informed now, Thanks !
There was a time (about 8 years ago) when I was stuck.. about 300 yards from being able to get DSL through the phone Co.. The cable company was offering it, and I asked, and it was coming to my neighborhood "soon",, and sad thing (infuriating actually) was that the telemarketers for both would call, and call to try and sign me up for something I wanted to do but couldn't.. I moved (unrelated) shortly thereafter, and had a choice between the phone co and cable.. fast forward to my move 4 tears ago, and I have 3 choices.. dsl, satellite, and cable.. It's never been a competition for me, given the choice I would go any day with the phone co, over the cable providers... I mean the phone companies are not exactly the most decent of companies, but lets face it.. the cable companies are waaaaay over priced, and have been since what.. the 70's ?.. so I have always gone the dsl route even with the talk of cable being faster (if no one else was using it supposedly)
If you have a choice, I don't know why anyone would give another dime to those cable people.. I dropped cable TV long ago, and think people are idiots to pay even $60 a month cable bills, let alone those (you know who you are) that pay 2 or more times that a month.
So basically, the set of available software for Linux-users is rather limited
Hmmm.. Synaptic says that I have 25,164 packages listed that I can choose from.. (I have 1270 installed).. and this is just from my package manager.. There's enough variety in there that I don't have to "tinker" as you say.. I do sometimes come across a conundrum, where for example there is say an application I like that is KDE, and my desktop is xfce.. well the old package manager figures out what it takes to work and installs it just fine.. and if I really want to get all purist crazy, I could just make separate login sessions and have a gnome, Xface, and KDE desktop all sharing the same access to home, and files and just pick what I want to run at login.... lack of applications yeah right.
In this case.. actually yes. Bush did a bad thing, leading to a lawsuit against the government. Now the Obama administration has to deal with it.. So here is the choice.. Let this thing continue, putting the government in the position to defend what Bush did.. So it would then be "Bad Obama government defending Bush's wrongdoings".. or.. They can do their best to get it dropped... either way it makes him look bad,, but the best of the 2 choices is to get it dropped so he doesn't put the government in the position to defend wrong doing.
Let's put it this way.. if you were in charge of the government.. would you want to have to go to court defending this thing that someone else did ?.. or would you rather get it thrown out and work on preventing future wrongs ?
You know what bothers me about it all ?.. It's that here's a guy who has taken over a job, where he obviously has a full plate in dealing with some complicated problems affecting the majority of people in the country.. The guy before him, did some awful crap, leading to things like this case.. The new guy, has a choice.. He can either let this case continue, in which case the government is put into a position to defend the crappy stuff the guy before him did.. or he can find a way to get it dropped.
The majority, as can be seen here.. only sees the injustice of the guy before "getting away with it".. and although I agree with that, I just don't think there is "good" choice.. Do we really want to put the government in a position to defend their acts and spend (how much ?) defending things that most don't beleive in ?.. and at what result ?.. Isn't it just better to impliment better policies going forward ? This is the result you really want anyway.
So Slashdot think.. I reject you this time. I think this is the best move for the country, given the situation.
Actually T-Mobiles plans are priced very well.. but phone wise, unless you buy into the G1.. their options for data plans (for phones) suck. For example, I was close to purchasing a Sony Ericson phone that they offer, but could not get an unlimited data plan to go with it, like the G1 has. The choices were 50gb a month or 100gb a month... For all I know either of those MIGHT be enough for me.. but why can't I get the unlimited plan for $4 more than the 100mb like the Google phone ?
The childish "you do it, so can I can too" approach you're taking is precisely that: indicative of a severely socially maladjusted person with no grasp of the severity of this situation.
Here's the thing.. It may be scary to you (pussy).. but I don't think any country has a right to dictate to another country as to what they want to devote their resources on as far as developing whatever technology they want... IF an accident happens affecting others, then they must deal with the consequences of their recklessness.. but till then, who is anybody to tell them what they can and can't do... I mean you'd laugh at them or anybody else, and give them the finger if they said.. "Hey, we don't want you developing laser weapons for space"
Suck it up.. one of the scariest countries in the world already has nukes, and has had for years.. and that's Pakistan.. and we keep giving them money for more weapons.. A country full of radicals, terrorists, suicide bombers.. and we keep giving them money... I'm sure that will never blow up in our face someday down the road.
The thing is.. all this fretting and worrying about Iran and N Korea getting nukes only plays into their favor. Their thinking is "what are you going to do for me, to stop this threat ?".. screw em.. let them do whatever they want.. maybe they will achieve some capacity, maybe not.. and then for them it will be.. ok now what ?.. Nothing.. that's what.. If Iran had nukes for instance.. it would mean diddly squat.. and same for N Korea.. Any scenarios that people come up with are just speculation and fear.. The most likely scenario is that NOTHING would happen.
Just curious.. have you even tried playing it ?.. or is your love for Windows (which it runs on BTW) so great, that talking out your ass is more important than trying something before you comment on it ?
If a user calls tech support because they can't find the button to print, that's a bug in your product: the print button should be easier to find.
That is not a bug.. that is a design flaw.. Bugs require immediate attention, design flaws get addressed over time, and the developer should be collecting a list of flaws to address.. Each developers personal situation is different, and the time and resources available to them to address the flaws are theirs to manage as they see fit.. but true "bugs" are usually priority, with changes in features and design after that. However, you can bet that if a problem such as a misplaced print button seems to take up a significant amount of time for them to explain, they will make it a priority to fix.
There is also more than one way to skin a cat.. The gimp program for example gets much flak for it's UI design, but after using it for awhile, I have found that it makes sense.. Yes it can be done "the other way" or other ways different altogether.. but here is the thing that most of the critics of it can't seem to grasp.. It is logical, and does make sense.. So it is really neither a bug nor a "flaw", it's just different.
Personally, I would be more enthused if they did something totally different. I really have little interest in the origins of Kirk and Spock.. and I didn't care for the Enterprise series either.. I think maybe it's just the Next Gen, Voyager, DS9 series where more interesting to me, and trying to go back to the hokey past series.. is just hokey... It's like trying to remake the Dukes of Hazard.. you got to say, sure you can do it.. and probably explore different angles.. but why ?
Just curious as to how the brits are taking the movie "The Reader" ?.. Course we are not talking about infants, and the fact that the one being 15 is a boy instead of a girl lets it slide I suppose.. but couldn't this movie fall under those laws ?
I liked the movie.. but you have to wonder what happens if you place it in modern day, and or reverse the roles to older man younger girl.. some people would be freaking out, you can be sure.
If you set aside the already mentioned IBM, Sun, and Oracle.. I suppose Hp could be considered.. You could throw in Dell too, but that would probably make people actually cry.
I don't think this is intended for use in a physical store.. seeing as the way you download this program, is to scan your screen., I think that basically it is using a barcode scan like a download link (no typing)... Since I don't have an android phone, this is my WAG (wild assed guess) but makes more sense than reading a barcode at WallyWorld.
On the other hand, if you're not already programming, you're wasting your time.
Wow.. so unless you plan from birth to be a programmer, your screwed for that position.. I think someone thinks too highly of their profession.
35 is not an unreasonable age to begin a second unrelated career in almost anything. I would also submit that attending school will do him good even if he does not end up following the path of a professional programmer.. I can't tell you the number of people in my life with degrees such as "engineering" that were making a living doing nothing even remotely related to their degree.. so I don't see it as wasting time.
don't know.. but they are significant.. this guy said so.
I think the "barriers" are people who think like him.. It's mostly fear.. For example, how can you possibly supply a desktop, offer support and make money ?.. If you really think about Micro$oft and support for business desktops, you come to realize that most things are done in house by the customers IT guys anyways. It's the home user of MS desktops that use support.. So the question becomes, who are you "selling" Linux desktops to ? and what is your expected need to supply support to them ?
Plus, there's nothing wrong with supporting manufacturers that really have first-class Linux drivers
Well, you don't mention them by name., but I am guessing your referring to HP.. which is always a pretty safe bet for compatibility, and their software for Linux is pretty good.. so I'll support them by saying that my recent purchase of a cheap all in one HP printer turned out to be pretty cool.. and I did your google thing as well.. when I had run across the printer and liked the price, the first thing I did before buying it was to google "HP F2210 Linux problem" saw no problems, and links to drivers, and knew it was cool to go for it.
Ok.. in reading the PDF.. I find that this brief was written by MICHAEL F. HERTZ.. who appears after a google search to have been assistant attorney general in 2007.. so is this a Obama thing or a Bush thing ?.. I submit that this is more likely just SLOW government, than some new policy of the new administration.
4) Handy. Got any tips on where I should throw all these aliases?
You don't have to put them anywhere, bash stores them in bashrc file (hidden).. think ini if that helps... if you make a lot of them that you wouldn't use often enough to remember, you might want to make yourself a text file for reference.. otherwise I suppose you could open the rc file and find out what you called what.
Like others.. cd/etc/X11 works just fine for me as well.. Are you sure that you used a capital X ?
Good catch.. Google shopping results lead me to believe that this is not selling yet, but coming in April.. It does have some neat specs.. quad band, dual sim with an onboard gps receiver is a combo I have searched for before and not found.. I have found many dual sim with TV tuner (soon to be useless in the US) but none with the GPS.
I am not a programmer (well not professionally, I dabble) but your advice of learning the language that is common in the industry he is interested in is good. In this particular case, I would also suggest to him to learn about banking, finance, and accounting... years back I was working at a company, and we got a new system for accounting.. the company reps that supplied it, knew databases backwards and forwards, but really had little understanding of a simple thing like calculating sales tax, which the new system was doing completely wrong. To work in a specialized field requires some knowledge of how things are done it that field.
Well.. why not, I'll take a chance on being moderated troll like the other guy..
You want a citation to prove that there are a lot of gun deaths for unlocked guns ?... I suppose someone could research the number of gun deaths from guns locked up vs laying around the house... hey government grant !
Gun control and murder rates in populated areas vs low population.. and you prove.. nothing.. because owning a gun does not necessarily mean your violent.. it also doesn't prevent violence...
There is a theory that I would present.. and that is that although guns don't make you more violent, when you are violent you have a greater capacity for inflicting death. This doesn't mean that there are not alternative methods of killing.. but if I was unarmed, I would prefer to take on an attacker who had a knife than one who had a gun.
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Not everything sold through Amazon is Amazon.. there are a few flaky vendors in there.. I've only had one purchase myself that I wasn't 100 percent satisfied that I got what I ordered, and this was one of those vendors.. I ordered a phone system for the house, and it was supposed to be black, but the phones were silver.. it also wasn't in the original packaging, and no manual.. I could have been justified in returning it, but the color wasn't that big a deal, it was the same model, and although not in the original box, it wasn't used.. The manual took me a few minutes to find on the net and print.. works just like it should.
I guess everyone has different levels of what they will accept before returning things ordered online.. If I had a higher rate of failure, such as the guy in the article, I think I would be shopping elsewhere.. It would just be too much hassel to pack it up and get an RMA number, drive to UPS, and all the other hoops you have to jump.. So I tend to agree with you that there is something wrong with someone who continues to do the same thing over and over,, It's like a guy going to a restuarant every day and complaining about the food to get a free meal.. he's either crazy, or just enjoys the attention of someone who will address his complaints (right up to the point they ban him).
In 10,000 years as the clock nears the end.. the future humans will all be predicting the end of the world, because the ancient humans from the 20th centurury must have known somthing they didn't otherwise they would have made the clock go beyong 10,000 years.
The thing I don't like about "thin client" systems.. is it's like showing up for work, and finding that your desk has been replaced with a table.. Now the reason tables are better is because sometimes you have people who forget their lunch in their desk, and that causes ants.. so the best thing to do is take away all the desk drawers.. tables are cheaper than desks anyway.
In a perfect world, I suppose you would never have a worker drone mess up their work station requiring IT to waste valuable pencils to the ceiling time fixing it.. but that doesn't mean that all the drones, or even most of them are bad.. perhaps time would be better spent in repairing or replacing the drones that are the problem.. I mean keeping your workstation going and not doing things that will screw it up.. is not exactly rocket science.. perhaps those drones shouldn't be in the position they are in.
That this story is seen as anything but flame-bait
Yeah, I get it.. companies have been taking advantage of loop-holes and getting tax credits they don't deserve.. News ?? ... Oh wait, there is a new administration, and the latest slashgroupthink is that the new administration is for the corporations and out to screw us, because they want to drop a case against the old administration.. rather than legally fight for policies that they didn't implement... So let's just look really hard and see if there isn't anything else we can't prove our well informed theories of this administrations industrial complex leanings
This tax thing not the new administrations latest attempt to screw you.. that was done a couple years ago.. and hey you got a little spittle there.. might want to get yourself a handkerchief.
And now, after the other guy attempts to clear things up about this Bush tax credit not being the stimulus package, you throw in the bailout (Also different than the stimulus package and passed under Bush).. I feel informed now, Thanks !
There was a time (about 8 years ago) when I was stuck.. about 300 yards from being able to get DSL through the phone Co.. The cable company was offering it, and I asked, and it was coming to my neighborhood "soon",, and sad thing (infuriating actually) was that the telemarketers for both would call, and call to try and sign me up for something I wanted to do but couldn't.. I moved (unrelated) shortly thereafter, and had a choice between the phone co and cable.. fast forward to my move 4 tears ago, and I have 3 choices.. dsl, satellite, and cable.. It's never been a competition for me, given the choice I would go any day with the phone co, over the cable providers... I mean the phone companies are not exactly the most decent of companies, but lets face it.. the cable companies are waaaaay over priced, and have been since what.. the 70's ? .. so I have always gone the dsl route even with the talk of cable being faster (if no one else was using it supposedly)
If you have a choice, I don't know why anyone would give another dime to those cable people.. I dropped cable TV long ago, and think people are idiots to pay even $60 a month cable bills, let alone those (you know who you are) that pay 2 or more times that a month.
So basically, the set of available software for Linux-users is rather limited
Hmmm.. Synaptic says that I have 25,164 packages listed that I can choose from.. (I have 1270 installed).. and this is just from my package manager.. There's enough variety in there that I don't have to "tinker" as you say.. I do sometimes come across a conundrum, where for example there is say an application I like that is KDE, and my desktop is xfce.. well the old package manager figures out what it takes to work and installs it just fine.. and if I really want to get all purist crazy, I could just make separate login sessions and have a gnome, Xface, and KDE desktop all sharing the same access to home, and files and just pick what I want to run at login.... lack of applications yeah right.
In this case.. actually yes. Bush did a bad thing, leading to a lawsuit against the government. Now the Obama administration has to deal with it.. So here is the choice.. Let this thing continue, putting the government in the position to defend what Bush did.. So it would then be "Bad Obama government defending Bush's wrongdoings" .. or.. They can do their best to get it dropped... either way it makes him look bad,, but the best of the 2 choices is to get it dropped so he doesn't put the government in the position to defend wrong doing.
Let's put it this way.. if you were in charge of the government.. would you want to have to go to court defending this thing that someone else did ?.. or would you rather get it thrown out and work on preventing future wrongs ?
You know what bothers me about it all ?.. It's that here's a guy who has taken over a job, where he obviously has a full plate in dealing with some complicated problems affecting the majority of people in the country.. The guy before him, did some awful crap, leading to things like this case.. The new guy, has a choice.. He can either let this case continue, in which case the government is put into a position to defend the crappy stuff the guy before him did.. or he can find a way to get it dropped.
The majority, as can be seen here.. only sees the injustice of the guy before "getting away with it".. and although I agree with that, I just don't think there is "good" choice.. Do we really want to put the government in a position to defend their acts and spend (how much ?) defending things that most don't beleive in ? .. and at what result ? .. Isn't it just better to impliment better policies going forward ? This is the result you really want anyway.
So Slashdot think.. I reject you this time. I think this is the best move for the country, given the situation.
Actually T-Mobiles plans are priced very well.. but phone wise, unless you buy into the G1.. their options for data plans (for phones) suck. For example, I was close to purchasing a Sony Ericson phone that they offer, but could not get an unlimited data plan to go with it, like the G1 has. The choices were 50gb a month or 100gb a month... For all I know either of those MIGHT be enough for me.. but why can't I get the unlimited plan for $4 more than the 100mb like the Google phone ?
The childish "you do it, so can I can too" approach you're taking is precisely that: indicative of a severely socially maladjusted person with no grasp of the severity of this situation.
Here's the thing.. It may be scary to you (pussy).. but I don't think any country has a right to dictate to another country as to what they want to devote their resources on as far as developing whatever technology they want... IF an accident happens affecting others, then they must deal with the consequences of their recklessness.. but till then, who is anybody to tell them what they can and can't do... I mean you'd laugh at them or anybody else, and give them the finger if they said.. "Hey, we don't want you developing laser weapons for space"
Suck it up.. one of the scariest countries in the world already has nukes, and has had for years.. and that's Pakistan.. and we keep giving them money for more weapons.. A country full of radicals, terrorists, suicide bombers.. and we keep giving them money... I'm sure that will never blow up in our face someday down the road.
The thing is.. all this fretting and worrying about Iran and N Korea getting nukes only plays into their favor. Their thinking is "what are you going to do for me, to stop this threat ?".. screw em.. let them do whatever they want.. maybe they will achieve some capacity, maybe not.. and then for them it will be.. ok now what ?.. Nothing.. that's what.. If Iran had nukes for instance.. it would mean diddly squat.. and same for N Korea.. Any scenarios that people come up with are just speculation and fear.. The most likely scenario is that NOTHING would happen.
Just curious .. have you even tried playing it ?.. or is your love for Windows (which it runs on BTW) so great, that talking out your ass is more important than trying something before you comment on it ?
If a user calls tech support because they can't find the button to print, that's a bug in your product: the print button should be easier to find.
That is not a bug.. that is a design flaw.. Bugs require immediate attention, design flaws get addressed over time, and the developer should be collecting a list of flaws to address.. Each developers personal situation is different, and the time and resources available to them to address the flaws are theirs to manage as they see fit.. but true "bugs" are usually priority, with changes in features and design after that. However, you can bet that if a problem such as a misplaced print button seems to take up a significant amount of time for them to explain, they will make it a priority to fix.
There is also more than one way to skin a cat.. The gimp program for example gets much flak for it's UI design, but after using it for awhile, I have found that it makes sense.. Yes it can be done "the other way" or other ways different altogether.. but here is the thing that most of the critics of it can't seem to grasp.. It is logical, and does make sense.. So it is really neither a bug nor a "flaw", it's just different.
Personally, I would be more enthused if they did something totally different. I really have little interest in the origins of Kirk and Spock.. and I didn't care for the Enterprise series either.. I think maybe it's just the Next Gen, Voyager, DS9 series where more interesting to me, and trying to go back to the hokey past series.. is just hokey... It's like trying to remake the Dukes of Hazard.. you got to say, sure you can do it.. and probably explore different angles.. but why ?
Just curious as to how the brits are taking the movie "The Reader" ?.. Course we are not talking about infants, and the fact that the one being 15 is a boy instead of a girl lets it slide I suppose.. but couldn't this movie fall under those laws ?
I liked the movie.. but you have to wonder what happens if you place it in modern day, and or reverse the roles to older man younger girl.. some people would be freaking out, you can be sure.
If you set aside the already mentioned IBM, Sun, and Oracle.. I suppose Hp could be considered.. You could throw in Dell too, but that would probably make people actually cry.
I don't think this is intended for use in a physical store.. seeing as the way you download this program, is to scan your screen., I think that basically it is using a barcode scan like a download link (no typing)... Since I don't have an android phone, this is my WAG (wild assed guess) but makes more sense than reading a barcode at WallyWorld.
On the other hand, if you're not already programming, you're wasting your time.
Wow.. so unless you plan from birth to be a programmer, your screwed for that position.. I think someone thinks too highly of their profession.
35 is not an unreasonable age to begin a second unrelated career in almost anything. I would also submit that attending school will do him good even if he does not end up following the path of a professional programmer.. I can't tell you the number of people in my life with degrees such as "engineering" that were making a living doing nothing even remotely related to their degree.. so I don't see it as wasting time.
don't know.. but they are significant.. this guy said so.
I think the "barriers" are people who think like him.. It's mostly fear.. For example, how can you possibly supply a desktop, offer support and make money ? .. If you really think about Micro$oft and support for business desktops, you come to realize that most things are done in house by the customers IT guys anyways. It's the home user of MS desktops that use support.. So the question becomes, who are you "selling" Linux desktops to ? and what is your expected need to supply support to them ?
Plus, there's nothing wrong with supporting manufacturers that really have first-class Linux drivers
Well, you don't mention them by name., but I am guessing your referring to HP.. which is always a pretty safe bet for compatibility, and their software for Linux is pretty good.. so I'll support them by saying that my recent purchase of a cheap all in one HP printer turned out to be pretty cool.. and I did your google thing as well.. when I had run across the printer and liked the price, the first thing I did before buying it was to google "HP F2210 Linux problem" saw no problems, and links to drivers, and knew it was cool to go for it.
Ok.. in reading the PDF.. I find that this brief was written by MICHAEL F. HERTZ .. who appears after a google search to have been assistant attorney general in 2007 .. so is this a Obama thing or a Bush thing ?.. I submit that this is more likely just SLOW government, than some new policy of the new administration.
4) Handy. Got any tips on where I should throw all these aliases?
You don't have to put them anywhere, bash stores them in bashrc file (hidden).. think ini if that helps... if you make a lot of them that you wouldn't use often enough to remember, you might want to make yourself a text file for reference.. otherwise I suppose you could open the rc file and find out what you called what.
Like others.. cd /etc/X11 works just fine for me as well.. Are you sure that you used a capital X ?
Good catch.. Google shopping results lead me to believe that this is not selling yet, but coming in April.. It does have some neat specs.. quad band, dual sim with an onboard gps receiver is a combo I have searched for before and not found.. I have found many dual sim with TV tuner (soon to be useless in the US) but none with the GPS.
I am not a programmer (well not professionally, I dabble) but your advice of learning the language that is common in the industry he is interested in is good. In this particular case, I would also suggest to him to learn about banking, finance, and accounting... years back I was working at a company, and we got a new system for accounting.. the company reps that supplied it, knew databases backwards and forwards, but really had little understanding of a simple thing like calculating sales tax, which the new system was doing completely wrong. To work in a specialized field requires some knowledge of how things are done it that field.
Well.. why not, I'll take a chance on being moderated troll like the other guy..
You want a citation to prove that there are a lot of gun deaths for unlocked guns ? ... I suppose someone could research the number of gun deaths from guns locked up vs laying around the house... hey government grant !
Gun control and murder rates in populated areas vs low population.. and you prove.. nothing.. because owning a gun does not necessarily mean your violent.. it also doesn't prevent violence...
There is a theory that I would present.. and that is that although guns don't make you more violent, when you are violent you have a greater capacity for inflicting death. This doesn't mean that there are not alternative methods of killing.. but if I was unarmed, I would prefer to take on an attacker who had a knife than one who had a gun.