I find the term euro-pussie amusing, only because it is coming from someone complaining about what they are doing to the image of their doll. Funny stuff really. Don't know why it has to be "euro-pussie" though, but I'll just let that go, I am not European and I am sure they can defend their own honour.
He says it's in version 2.. and that there is a beta available for version 3.... he doesn't anywhere say that it's in some perpetual beta state. Otherwise it would still be version 0.xxx wouldn't it ?
Yes I know about the free CD thing.. Yes I have given copies away that I have myself burned.. but some people do download their own.. and I have seen this burning issue again and again.
As to old computers that won't run 98.. I meant boot FROM a win 98 CD.. those still pop up now and again with people trying to recycle old comps. sure you can make a boot floppy and get them going with win 98.
X is really pretty stable these days.. especially after you get it configured.. (proprietary drivers are a different issue, we are talking about getting started) I won't get into a debate on it, but the vast majority of the old blue screens of death were in fact video driver related.
I am not in anyway saying that this safe mode is a bad thing. I merely meant to point out something to look for when someone tells you "I burned it, and it's junk cause it won't install".. seen it several times, from Windows power users who "think" they know how to make a Cd from an ISO.
I screwed up and posted this on the wrong thread.. Off topic there,,, so some redemption here..
Often, people will download an ISO, click on it in XP which very helpfuly asks "make a CD ?".. which they do.. but they are not making a bootable CD.. all they have done is copy the ISO to the CD.
If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in.iso
There should be several directories.. If not it isn't burned correctly.
You need a proper burning program like Nero or Active ISO Burner. You burn FROM an Image, you dont copy the image to CD.
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If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in.iso
Often, people will download an ISO, click on it in XP which very helpfuly asks "make a CD ?".. which they do.. but they are not making a bootable CD.. all they have done is copy the ISO to the CD.
If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in.iso
There should be several directories.. If not it isn't burned correctly.
You need a proper burning program like Nero or Active ISO Burner. You burn FROM an Image, you dont copy the image to CD.
Again
If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in.iso
Again
If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in.iso
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If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in.iso
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If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in.iso
hmmm.. I determined incorrectly burned CD's to be an issue 90% of the time.. with the other 10% devoted to extremely old hardware that couldn't even boot a Windows 98 CD because the bios was too old... I have had the odd case where it was setup in a really strange resolution, but it has always booted graphical for me on the installs I have done.
I think that the resistance to Roundup was already there... What happened is these weeds that had it, now have little competition from other weeds that didn't (since they are dead)... but that's a good thing because Roundup will soon become useless.
This would verify that your CD is good, and that it's Ubuntu having problems with your particular set-up.... I'm going to tell you, I have had plenty of people who thought they burned the CD correctly... bad mouth away... only to find out that they had did something stupid like copy the ISO to the CD, instead of burning "from" an ISO... If you don't understand what I mean, then you probably did that.. That may not be what you did, but you don't give ANY details of what it does when you try and install... SO.. I would try getting the CD to live boot on another machine before you blame the distro totaly. If it doesn't boot on another machine you have a bad CD, and I'm sure you'll come back here and tell everyone "my bad"..... uh sure you will.
A better example is this... Lets say a Chinese resident has a right to free healthcare under their laws (they probably do, don't know)
Now lets say there is a Chinese company who has invested money into a hospital in the US (not a stretch probably)... I suppose the Chinese government could go after them for not giving free medical care to American citizens.
You see it's not about obeying laws in both countries, it's about applying the laws of one country to another.. I don't think you have to.. Otherwise there would be no Swiss or Cayman bank accounts would there ?
No user should have to wrestle with a dependency database to install an application of their choice
That's exactly why there are package managers.
much less a repository that distributes apps that are poorly understood and rarely used by the ones compiling configuring and packaging those apps
So you would have them distribute these bad boys another way ?, with out any control or testing to see if they are broken ?
It is one of the main reasons why Linux apps are feature-poor, as devs have learned to dread the hassles of functionality that breaks across distros.
So it's your feeling that apps are feature poor, and that the package management system is responsible ?... again, the package management system is supposed to be there to MAINTAIN dependencies. It (APT at least) works pretty darn well.
4. Enable app developers to become as independent as possible, such that distro managers do not insert themselves between the developers and their users. Distros ought to distribute OS software, and for the most part stay the F*ck away from controlling installation of particular applications. High-level package managers like APT, YUM, etc. should stick to managing (or mangling) the OS dependency tree and leave apps the hell alone! Provide dependency targets in the OS repo like "LSB Desktop", and only one or two others like "Java 6". Then, accept that all the extra stuff you supply on top of LSB is ONLY extra, and will get used when and if the user decides in specific cases.
Your as free as you want to be.. fact is so free you can make your own distro that installs applications the way you want to install them. I think maybe you want something with no package management.. good luck with that.. I think APT is just fine thank you. I like that there are distro managers inserting themselves between developers and users... deal with it.. If you want to be "outside the box" you still can.. but it shouldn't be standard... sheesh.
Actually I should state this a little better... If it's something you do regularly anyway, such as a production report then of course it should be in there... If it's something that you have to pull out of the sky, that isn't currently existing, such as some cost cutting measure that you have to invent, then it shouldn't be in there.
So things you do should be procedures, things you probably should do (and "probably will"), should not.
my 2 cents
The thing about ISO 9000 compliance, is all about how you set it up. ISO 9000 is all about writing procedures for repeatability, and documenting that you are following them. When procedures for your company were created, one of them was for your boss to ask for the productivity measures at such and such interval.. now he's stuck with it. The best thing you can do when becoming ISO 9000 is to keep it as simple as possible. Sure you could do things like ask for productivity measures, but to make it a documented procedure creates the things like nightmare your in. Best to leave a lot of things out, IMHO
I hope those states continue to not comply, until there is a showdown. When people in one these states eventually get to the point where they can't board an aircraft in their own city, we'll see if it's the state or federal government who cracks first. I'm betting that the federal government will back off on it.
You say the federal government is happy to give everyone an ID to LET them travel, but also claim that this not the federal government restricting travel. I think you are mistaken that they are happy to give EVERYONE an ID, and no-one is GIVING anything for free. I happen to have a passport, and it required some effort to originally get it 12 years ago, and some more effort to renew it 7 years ago. wasn't free either time. It is even more expensive now. The fact that you provide all the material to prove who you are (investigating yourself) and the photo, does not reduce the cost any either. I am sure there are probably some wants and warrant checks done, but how much could that cost ?
If you have state issued ID, that is more that sufficient to identify you. Why should you need more to travel in your own country ?
Of course your right for a lot of albums.. but there are exceptions.. and then there are also "Best Of" and other types of collections.
I do have to wonder though, if all your "gems" are just the same gems that are what's currently "popular", or if you actually give all the songs in an album a fair chance. It's kind of amazing how some songs get airplay that don't seem that great, but after so much familiarity it eventually becomes "good".
There are also fans that follow some artists.. for example my ex girlfriend was into Depeche Mode. and although I recognized some of the songs, she knew all of them, and her fellow fans at concerts could sing along with the lyrics of the "filler" songs.. Depche Mode is no Pink Floyd, or AC/DC so I imagine for most people with a casual exposure (like me) the filler songs would be junk.. but they still mean something to some people.
The guy posting below this thread was a newspaper carrier. One in a long chain of people who had advance access to advertising information without any NDA.
Many "chain stores" also supply sale information in advance to their stores, so that department managers can get an idea if they need to stock up on products. I seriously doubt even these department managers sign NDA's either. Now the company may not like the outcome, and may now make all people with such access sign an NDA's going forward... But I think other than firing the one responsible for this, for being bad a employee, there is nothing they can do to them.
There was a time when that may have worked for Linux, but the virii and malware epidemic has caused most admins to lockout users installing applications let alone an OS.. and all users at my work sign acceptable use policies.
The old saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease", but sometimes the squeaky wheel gets replaced".. can be replaced with "a rebel can lead to a movement, but sometimes a rebel gets fired"... which is what would happen at my company.
I use Linux exclusively at home, and have for years now. It's great, and there is no reason it can't and shouldn't be brought into the working world, but Linux use at work is only going to happen if it's implemented from the top at most places.
I agree with you on keeping separate things.. heck my brother even has separate a bedroom. At first glance people think strange, but after some of the various women I have tried sleeping with (hold it there partner actually talking about sleeping) I think he's a genius.
As to an easier, cleaner separation... easier to hit the lottery.
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I find the term euro-pussie amusing, only because it is coming from someone complaining about what they are doing to the image of their doll. Funny stuff really. Don't know why it has to be "euro-pussie" though, but I'll just let that go, I am not European and I am sure they can defend their own honour.
He says it's in version 2.. and that there is a beta available for version 3.... he doesn't anywhere say that it's in some perpetual beta state. Otherwise it would still be version 0.xxx wouldn't it ?
You had to drag in the last US election, and make us look bad, didn't you.
But I suppose I could spare Little Caesar $5.00 for a pizza...
If your calling the government Caesar... then who decides what's his ? apparently he doesn't decide what's his very well, or fairly.
If this were followed there would be no United States would there ? We would still be rendering unto England what is England's.
As to old computers that won't run 98.. I meant boot FROM a win 98 CD.. those still pop up now and again with people trying to recycle old comps. sure you can make a boot floppy and get them going with win 98.
X is really pretty stable these days.. especially after you get it configured.. (proprietary drivers are a different issue, we are talking about getting started) I won't get into a debate on it, but the vast majority of the old blue screens of death were in fact video driver related.
I am not in anyway saying that this safe mode is a bad thing. I merely meant to point out something to look for when someone tells you "I burned it, and it's junk cause it won't install".. seen it several times, from Windows power users who "think" they know how to make a Cd from an ISO.
Often, people will download an ISO, click on it in XP which very helpfuly asks "make a CD ?".. which they do.. but they are not making a bootable CD.. all they have done is copy the ISO to the CD.
If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in .iso
There should be several directories.. If not it isn't burned correctly.
You need a proper burning program like Nero or Active ISO Burner. You burn FROM an Image, you dont copy the image to CD.
Again If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in .iso
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I will be more careful next time
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I will be more careful next time
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I will be more careful next time
ok I got it... again sorry dude. :)
If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in .iso
There should be several directories.. If not it isn't burned correctly.
You need a proper burning program like Nero or Active ISO Burner. You burn FROM an Image, you dont copy the image to CD.
Again .iso .iso .iso .iso
If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in
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If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in
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If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in
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If you browse a newly created Ubuntu disk.. it will NOT be one file ending in
hmmm.. I determined incorrectly burned CD's to be an issue 90% of the time.. with the other 10% devoted to extremely old hardware that couldn't even boot a Windows 98 CD because the bios was too old... I have had the odd case where it was setup in a really strange resolution, but it has always booted graphical for me on the installs I have done.
I think that the resistance to Roundup was already there... What happened is these weeds that had it, now have little competition from other weeds that didn't (since they are dead)... but that's a good thing because Roundup will soon become useless.
This would verify that your CD is good, and that it's Ubuntu having problems with your particular set-up.... I'm going to tell you, I have had plenty of people who thought they burned the CD correctly ... bad mouth away... only to find out that they had did something stupid like copy the ISO to the CD, instead of burning "from" an ISO... If you don't understand what I mean, then you probably did that.. That may not be what you did, but you don't give ANY details of what it does when you try and install... SO.. I would try getting the CD to live boot on another machine before you blame the distro totaly. If it doesn't boot on another machine you have a bad CD, and I'm sure you'll come back here and tell everyone "my bad"..... uh sure you will.
Now lets say there is a Chinese company who has invested money into a hospital in the US (not a stretch probably)... I suppose the Chinese government could go after them for not giving free medical care to American citizens.
You see it's not about obeying laws in both countries, it's about applying the laws of one country to another.. I don't think you have to.. Otherwise there would be no Swiss or Cayman bank accounts would there ?
Or maybe Underdog ? ... yeah have high hopes for that one,
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That's exactly why there are package managers.
much less a repository that distributes apps that are poorly understood and rarely used by the ones compiling configuring and packaging those apps
So you would have them distribute these bad boys another way ?, with out any control or testing to see if they are broken ?
It is one of the main reasons why Linux apps are feature-poor, as devs have learned to dread the hassles of functionality that breaks across distros.
So it's your feeling that apps are feature poor, and that the package management system is responsible ? ... again, the package management system is supposed to be there to MAINTAIN dependencies. It (APT at least) works pretty darn well.
Your as free as you want to be.. fact is so free you can make your own distro that installs applications the way you want to install them. I think maybe you want something with no package management.. good luck with that.. I think APT is just fine thank you. I like that there are distro managers inserting themselves between developers and users ... deal with it.. If you want to be "outside the box" you still can.. but it shouldn't be standard... sheesh.
So things you do should be procedures, things you probably should do (and "probably will"), should not.
my 2 cents
The thing about ISO 9000 compliance, is all about how you set it up. ISO 9000 is all about writing procedures for repeatability, and documenting that you are following them. When procedures for your company were created, one of them was for your boss to ask for the productivity measures at such and such interval.. now he's stuck with it. The best thing you can do when becoming ISO 9000 is to keep it as simple as possible. Sure you could do things like ask for productivity measures, but to make it a documented procedure creates the things like nightmare your in. Best to leave a lot of things out, IMHO
I'll answer though ... Just hide away until after Armageddon is over, I'll find you.. don't worry... really, just wait til I say it's safe to come out.
You say the federal government is happy to give everyone an ID to LET them travel, but also claim that this not the federal government restricting travel. I think you are mistaken that they are happy to give EVERYONE an ID, and no-one is GIVING anything for free. I happen to have a passport, and it required some effort to originally get it 12 years ago, and some more effort to renew it 7 years ago. wasn't free either time. It is even more expensive now. The fact that you provide all the material to prove who you are (investigating yourself) and the photo, does not reduce the cost any either. I am sure there are probably some wants and warrant checks done, but how much could that cost ?
If you have state issued ID, that is more that sufficient to identify you. Why should you need more to travel in your own country ?
I do have to wonder though, if all your "gems" are just the same gems that are what's currently "popular", or if you actually give all the songs in an album a fair chance. It's kind of amazing how some songs get airplay that don't seem that great, but after so much familiarity it eventually becomes "good".
There are also fans that follow some artists.. for example my ex girlfriend was into Depeche Mode. and although I recognized some of the songs, she knew all of them, and her fellow fans at concerts could sing along with the lyrics of the "filler" songs.. Depche Mode is no Pink Floyd, or AC/DC so I imagine for most people with a casual exposure (like me) the filler songs would be junk.. but they still mean something to some people.
Many "chain stores" also supply sale information in advance to their stores, so that department managers can get an idea if they need to stock up on products. I seriously doubt even these department managers sign NDA's either. Now the company may not like the outcome, and may now make all people with such access sign an NDA's going forward... But I think other than firing the one responsible for this, for being bad a employee, there is nothing they can do to them.
The old saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease", but sometimes the squeaky wheel gets replaced".. can be replaced with "a rebel can lead to a movement, but sometimes a rebel gets fired"... which is what would happen at my company.
I use Linux exclusively at home, and have for years now. It's great, and there is no reason it can't and shouldn't be brought into the working world, but Linux use at work is only going to happen if it's implemented from the top at most places.
As to an easier, cleaner separation... easier to hit the lottery.
Umm.. but isn't it being offered on this same hardware in Singapore ?