Exactly, He twists the truth to his own needs as much as the next man, but at least he admits to it.
"Twists the truth" ??
That's a new one. Moore has been accused of selectively presenting the truth, but nobody has accused him of actually twisting or distorting it.
He can easily be accused of manufacturing "propaganda". But if you know of any truths he has been mishandling then please speak up.
"Fahrenheit 9/11" wasn't a revelation to me, I had seen it most before (with the exception of what the Afghan Prime Minister used to work with before) but I only wish I had seen this in the mainstream media instead.
Those are good points. I am tired of Terrorism being used as a password to make us agree to stupid propositions the make life a little bit easier for the government *cough* patriot act *cough*.
Corect, and "Anti-Semitism" is another keyword that is being widely used to shut down criticism and gain support and sympathy,
Why can't an environmentalist like nuclear energy and genetically engineered foods? Both have advantages and risks. In some cases the advantages outweigh the risks.
I think that's over simplyfied and the whole discussion has been taken over by radicals.
Personally I don't think that there are any (or much) dangers eating genetically modified foods, but I want to know what I'm eating, so if I buy genetically modified corn I want that to be marked clearly on the product.
Another reason for why I want it marked, is that I think the dangers for the environment have not been sufficiantly researched, and I want to vote "no" with my wallet to genetically altered food products.
And why on earth does someone need to take their IPs with them?
Because they have waste amounts of code running on over 500 production systems that was written by contractors that got paid to "let it work".
The above code has IP addresses hardcoded in it all over the place and the source code was not delivered with the system or it is simply to expensive to have it re-done.
Both CD's ripped fine in iTunes and play fine on my iPod, incidently... So I'm beginning to wonder if there's really any protection on the disks at all. Maybe this is a case of "the emperors new copy protection".
My Sony CD writer broke down once so it had to be sent back to the factory. After about two months it finally came back with a new firmware and I haven't found a musical CD since then that it couldn't rip as if there were no copy-protection.
The problem with many of us genius types is that we do not function well amongst average human social, academic, and even business designs.
I think most if not all "geniuses" in history have had rather low self esteem in addition of being partially depressive. Megaloomania seldom goes hand in hand with "geniousness".
My non-professional guess, from your description would be that you suffer from ADHD which can be treated medically.
I couldn't take college and dropped out because of my arrogance, similar as yours.
Maybe you were arrogant, maybe not. There are a lot of smart people who don't fit into the traditional understanding of "intelligent", "smart" and "clever".
Robert Sternberg is a psycologist whose life project is to show that there are multiple types of "intelligence" and current "intelligence tests" only measure one or two of them.
When we look at the life of people such as Tomas Edison for example, who dropped out of school and was then fired from work for being "too clever" (he created a auto-responder to a morse signal that was supposed to verify if he was awake) it becomes obvious that the school system is not suited for educating some of the smartest people that have lived.
I belive Sternberg is righ, I belive there are very intelligent young people who are being labelled "arrogant" and a lot of other negative names because they are not "connecting" with the "system" as they "should be".
So what is the right way for such people ? Follow your instinct.. It will be hard, it will be difficult and there will be ups and downs but at least you have a chance to be *yourself*
Well I could say that Edward Hoppers' paintings inspire feelings of lonliness because the artist worked alone and felt distanced from those around him, and that if he was a more gregarious character he would have painted happier pictures. That's got data and a hypothesis. You may think that's science - I don't.
You are using the straw man argument here...
You can make all the personal remarks as you want, but they won't become a part of any history.
Claiming that someone painted such and such because of this and that without a inch of research, is a personal opinion.
Think of mathematics... When you have established a mathematical proof, you can't disproof it.
Does that mean mathematics is not science ? No because even if you do have *truths* you are still free to make therories and do studies.
Archaeology can do #1, and #2. Arguably it can do #3. However, #4 is right out as you don't have the ability to create alternate realities.
4 only claims that you have to be able to make a theory, and then test it independently, by describing a theorem (I.e. "In this study we will try to show that current methods in carbon dating involve errors up to 30% larger than previously known") and then performing a study with results that can be confirmed and/or disproofed by a second study.
by your parameters Art History can be defined as a science, something which I'm uncomfortable with.
Absolutely.. And so can chockolate-chips-cookie making and quality-control. What matters is the methods used, not that it has some fanzy name or comes from some big scientific institude. "Scientific thinking" is the key element, unfortunately to few people are applying it in their lives.
How do we know what matters to future generations of archaeologists? I'm sure those who 'excavated' the archaic/classical greek sites were doing their best, but they did destroy stuff that mattered to us now. It's naive to think that we're not doing the same today.
There seems to be a fundamental difference on how we think about "science". Science is a way of thinking, and you can teach someone this way of thinking. However, that does not mean that person will always be right about everything. Scientists make wrong assumptions based on best information available at the time.
And that does not mean, as you seem to think, that they are any less scientists than the next generation that will have more information and better tools.
No it isn't. Many aspects of archaeology are non-repeatable. Excavation is the obvious example.
Excavation is not about digging dirt, the main part, and the one that matters is to not destroy anything that matters and rigorusly documenting every aspect of it.
That way you can "repeat the study" later by other archeologs, and based on new theories and/or information, possibly reach a totally different conclusion.
Secondly, although archaeology uses many scientific techniques, it is fundamentally subjective. Once you've excavated a site, got dates from objects and contexts one is still left with the subjective opinions of the primary excavator.
Exacty, and archeology is *exactly* like other sciences in that matter. Physics, for example is not *truth*, but merely a collection of our best efforts to describe the universe we live in.
A new *truth* can be found tomorrow and change the way we think about reality. Take the size and shape of the universe as an example, there are more than one theory about that one.
Archaeology is not a science, certainly not an 'arcane science'. It's a discipline which employs (amongst other things) scientific techniques, such as C-14 dating.
I almost belived you were an Archeolog up until you wrote that..
For something to be a science, you have to be able to do studies, using methods based on theories, and to get results that can be independently verified by repeating the study by peer scientists.
Archeology is exactly that..
If you want an example of something that is not science, take psychoanalysis as an example. It's not even a theory, and as such, can't be disproofed. Everything is based on two subjects of Freud that he found interesting, and used to get him out of his financial troubles.
I'm sure he is laughing hysterically in his grave.
Mr Bayes published some of his early work in the 1764 edition of the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society.
It doesn't matter if Jesus Christ himself wrote that article..
The primary purpose of the US patent system is to generate revenue for the economie and you can patent almost anything already existing, as long as it has a different colour and those who have prior art can't affort a lawsuit to nullify your patent.
For example, McAfee would surely like to patent farting *in public* if they thought it would be enforceable.. And good luck on finding a prior art on that one..
I know everything MS does is looked down upon by the/. majority but this really should be seen as "a good thing".
Like the donkey said "I have a dragon and I'm not afraid to use it." Microsoft is in a monopoly position and they're not afraid to (ab)use it.
Since Microsoft has realised they can't make neither cheaper nor technically superior products, they fight dirty.
The policy was for a long time to not add any new service without trying to make it a Microsoft-only service. (MSN, Kerberos and DNS to name a few).
And in addition Microsoft now tries (sucsessfully) to patent the thing that makes it Microsoft-only, to prevent similar functionality being implemented in competing products (and thereby all interopability).
Microsoft is not a "fair player", not even remotely, and with the money and political friends they have, having them anywere doing anything else than decomposing, is not "a good thing"
Well, SpamAssassin just failed on me two weeks ago - suddenly its effectivity dropped from a fair 95%-98% to less than 50% and spam started pouring into my mailbox.
Two things that I have done that keep SA hitting hard on the Spam problem, is to install the additional rules_du_jour and my_rules_du_jour
and secondly the SURBL real-time system.. And SpamAssassin works like a charm again..
Plus we have a significant number of staff who are clueless who would be excluded from communicating effectively because they do not have the time or skills to learn how to train a spam filter. in such a situation, no-one could no-longer *rely* on email to contact/inform our staff, reducing its value as a tool.
True, I also work in a large international organisation, but our Spam/Ham ratio in "only" about 40%..
I am handling the Spam problem and we have been running SpamAssassin, as a pilot project, for the last year.
The SpamAssassin project almost got replaced by a commercial solution when people started asking themselves, "what good is it if we still deliver, the Spam to the users inboxes ?". Our users may be experts in other fields, but for many, computers are not their thing.
Some commercial solutions have "Quarantine" system where you can send a report once a day to the recipients, with a list of all spam they received the day before, with a link for each email the user can click if he wants it delivered to his inbox.
That way the Spam doesn't constantly flow in the user's inboxes and takes up the users time. (And, 'no' manually creating a filter rule for thousands of users is not an option)
The world is now on notice that if knock the chip off the shoulder of the USA you just MIGHT find it accepts the challenge and you get pounded into the ground. Seems to me that creates a LOT more respect than whining to the United Petty Dictators for permission to hit back every time the US is punched.
When a friend of mine was a kid, he used to play with the electricity outlets in the house, that is, until his father took him and beat him so hard and long that he was to scared to repeat it.
His father proudly told his friend that he had "cured" his son, of the dangerous play, and that his son now took a step away from electric outlets in the house whenever he walked by them.
What his father didnt tell his friends was that his kid was also taking a step away from him when they passed in the hallway.
Moral of the story ? Beating or scaring someone into submission, does not mean respect.
The world is now ALSO on notice that the US does its flat-out damdest to avoid suppressing others religions and culture - even to the point of endangering and losing the lives of its own troops. And that if its troops screw up and start oppressing those under they control, the US will ADMIT it, INVESTIGATE it, REMOVE them from their posts and TRY them for crimes. Many in the Muslum world are now asking each other why they allow their OWN leaders to do less.
You are kidding right ??
The US administration knew of the abuse in January, and didnt take action until PHOTOS were released that showed the abuse..
And who was the first guy to be court-martialled ? Yes, the guy who took the PHOTOS !!
Do the math... Windows costing more means that there will likely be fewer users of Windows because they can't afford it in their or their company's budget.
As good as is sounds unfortunately, this is not true.
Only 2 weeks ago my company held this "brainstorming" session about what we could do, to be more open-source-ish and one of the things that came out was that we couldn't use open source to reduce our costs, since Microsoft is giving us such a "good deal" (Something like 30-40% off list price) with the site-license we have.
Our Servers dont cost us that much (~ 130.000 Euros/Year). It's the desktops with MS Office that cost real money, and nobody thinks it's realistic to switch even a part of our userbase over to Linux/OO.
We work a lot with external data and MS Office compatibility in OpenOffice still sucks..
Everyone realised we were in a Microsoft Lock-in and the bosses were not to happy about it..
Clearly their expedition will fail... they're going after a find of "tremendous historical significance," particularly to Biblical studies, and they're not bringing along Indiana Jones?! What were they thinking?
Quite a few people have claimed that the Arc's remains are on the mountin and that they have seen it. That doesn't mean that they will find the Arc, but if they are lucky they will find what those other people found, and thought to be the Arc.
Most likely the legend of Noah's Arc is just that, a folklore story that was popular at the time the old testament was written, and simply got written into it, because it was thought to be apropriate to include it, at the time.
The expedition will likely find some rock formations that resemble the remains of a huge ship and belivers will claim that's God's way of preserving the Arc, while logical thinking people will dismiss it as "Rock formation". Everybody get's what they wanted and nothing has changed..
Uh... isnt this a little like somebody in a straw house thanking arsonist for burning other people's houses down just to prove they're flammable?
Uhmm, No, it's rather like when Microsoft paid for a benchmark that showed how Windows was faster in serving webpages and files on a network.
Linus and other developers went into overdrive, threw out the old memory system and inplemented the Direct-memory-copy functions (so data could go directly from hard-disk buffer to network-card buffer without having to go through conventional memory).
This helped Linux a lot, and if Microsoft has repeated the tests since then, they are keeping the results very, very secret.
how is that actually good for Linux. Isn't take a bit like pointing out all the security holes in windows it doesn't improve the OS's reputation.
Linux's reputation wasn't that good at all. Each and every Microsoft consultant, I have met, has always been ready to spread FUD and outright false claims about the competition.
What SCO's case is doing is taking all those claims and making a lawsuit out of them. The only way that would be bad for Linux is if SCO actually won. And judging from the story so far, there seems to be less and less possibility of that happening.
No, what looks like is going to happend is that the SCO lawsuit will "Free" Linux from all the FUD that has been build up over the years...
I take it, by rest of the world, you would be refering to the French and Spanish speaking countries, as well as Russia (who were also buying oil extraction equipment from the French) and some other interested parties, mainly around the middle east.
By "the rest of the world" I was referign to the people of the world.. There were protests on scales not seen since the Vietnam War almost everywhere in the World..
I AM refering to the leaders of countries, not the punters, who really can't make all that much difference to a government if they have 12+ months before an election
Leaders of countries participated many, not because they agreeded that the war was a good idea, but because, by not participating, would have ment punishment from the USA.
The former financial minister of Pakistan, for example, was told by the USA that "If you don't do what we want you to do, we will destroy your economy." He revealed this on a "HardTalk" interview on BBC. Andm yes, he was refering to USA's "War on terrorism."
Amazing how one phrase can completely discredit someone's entire argument.
Do you honestly belive that if there were any AlQaida fighters in Iraq, the USA wouldn't show us the proof ?
Come on, USA is killing people, over there, by the hundreds, so finding one pesky Terrorist shouldn't be to much of a problem for the worlds greatest super power.
I realy don't understand why the USA hasn't already shown us some pictures of "suspected" AlQaida terrorists over there.. After all, Powel showed the U.N. photos of "Suspected" terrorist camps in N-Iraq (Which later turned out to be a religious study area and the funder was even interviewed on BBC)
Think about it, If nothing happens for a loooong time, and then suddenly nothing continues to happend.... How long are you going to keep your head in the sand ?
Exactly, He twists the truth to his own needs as much as the next man, but at least he admits to it.
"Twists the truth" ??
That's a new one. Moore has been accused of selectively presenting the truth, but nobody has accused him of actually twisting or distorting it.
He can easily be accused of manufacturing "propaganda". But if you know of any truths he has been mishandling then please speak up.
"Fahrenheit 9/11" wasn't a revelation to me, I had seen it most before (with the exception of what the Afghan Prime Minister used to work with before) but I only wish I had seen this in the mainstream media instead.
Those are good points. I am tired of Terrorism being used as a password to make us agree to stupid propositions the make life a little bit easier for the government *cough* patriot act *cough*.
Corect, and "Anti-Semitism" is another keyword that is being widely used to shut down criticism and gain support and sympathy,
Why can't an environmentalist like nuclear energy and genetically engineered foods? Both have advantages and risks. In some cases the advantages outweigh the risks.
I think that's over simplyfied and the whole discussion has been taken over by radicals.
Personally I don't think that there are any (or much) dangers eating genetically modified foods, but I want to know what I'm eating, so if I buy genetically modified corn I want that to be marked clearly on the product.
Another reason for why I want it marked, is that I think the dangers for the environment have not been sufficiantly researched, and I want to vote "no" with my wallet to genetically altered food products.
And why on earth does someone need to take their IPs with them?
Because they have waste amounts of code running on over 500 production systems that was written by contractors that got paid to "let it work".
The above code has IP addresses hardcoded in it all over the place and the source code was not delivered with the system or it is simply to expensive to have it re-done.
Here comes the "American solution" (Lawsuits)
Both CD's ripped fine in iTunes and play fine on my iPod, incidently... So I'm beginning to wonder if there's really any protection on the disks at all. Maybe this is a case of "the emperors new copy protection".
My Sony CD writer broke down once so it had to be sent back to the factory. After about two months it finally came back with a new firmware and I haven't found a musical CD since then that it couldn't rip as if there were no copy-protection.
The problem with many of us genius types is that we do not function well amongst average human social, academic, and even business designs.
I think most if not all "geniuses" in history have had rather low self esteem in addition of being partially depressive. Megaloomania seldom goes hand in hand with "geniousness".
My non-professional guess, from your description would be that you suffer from ADHD which can be treated medically.
I couldn't take college and dropped out because of my arrogance, similar as yours.
Maybe you were arrogant, maybe not. There are a lot of smart people who don't fit into the traditional understanding of "intelligent", "smart" and "clever".
Robert Sternberg is a psycologist whose life project is to show that there are multiple types of "intelligence" and current "intelligence tests" only measure one or two of them.
When we look at the life of people such as Tomas Edison for example, who dropped out of school and was then fired from work for being "too clever" (he created a auto-responder to a morse signal that was supposed to verify if he was awake) it becomes obvious that the school system is not suited for educating some of the smartest people that have lived.
I belive Sternberg is righ, I belive there are very intelligent young people who are being labelled "arrogant" and a lot of other negative names because they are not "connecting" with the "system" as they "should be".
So what is the right way for such people ? Follow your instinct.. It will be hard, it will be difficult and there will be ups and downs but at least you have a chance to be *yourself*
Well I could say that Edward Hoppers' paintings inspire feelings of lonliness because the artist worked alone and felt distanced from those around him, and that if he was a more gregarious character he would have painted happier pictures. That's got data and a hypothesis. You may think that's science - I don't.
You are using the straw man argument here ...
You can make all the personal remarks as you want, but they won't become a part of any history.
Claiming that someone painted such and such because of this and that without a inch of research, is a personal opinion.
Think of mathematics... When you have established a mathematical proof, you can't disproof it.
Does that mean mathematics is not science ? No because even if you do have *truths* you are still free to make therories and do studies.
Archaeology can do #1, and #2. Arguably it can do #3. However, #4 is right out as you don't have the ability to create alternate realities.
4 only claims that you have to be able to make a theory, and then test it independently, by describing a theorem (I.e. "In this study we will try to show that current methods in carbon dating involve errors up to 30% larger than previously known") and then performing a study with results that can be confirmed and/or disproofed by a second study.
And, yes. Archeology can do that.
by your parameters Art History can be defined as a science, something which I'm uncomfortable with.
Absolutely.. And so can chockolate-chips-cookie making and quality-control. What matters is the methods used, not that it has some fanzy name or comes from some big scientific institude. "Scientific thinking" is the key element, unfortunately to few people are applying it in their lives.
How do we know what matters to future generations of archaeologists? I'm sure those who 'excavated' the archaic/classical greek sites were doing their best, but they did destroy stuff that mattered to us now. It's naive to think that we're not doing the same today.
There seems to be a fundamental difference on how we think about "science". Science is a way of thinking, and you can teach someone this way of thinking. However, that does not mean that person will always be right about everything. Scientists make wrong assumptions based on best information available at the time.
And that does not mean, as you seem to think, that they are any less scientists than the next generation that will have more information and better tools.
No it isn't. Many aspects of archaeology are non-repeatable. Excavation is the obvious example.
Excavation is not about digging dirt, the main part, and the one that matters is to not destroy anything that matters and rigorusly documenting every aspect of it.
That way you can "repeat the study" later by other archeologs, and based on new theories and/or information, possibly reach a totally different conclusion.
Secondly, although archaeology uses many scientific techniques, it is fundamentally subjective. Once you've excavated a site, got dates from objects and contexts one is still left with the subjective opinions of the primary excavator.
Exacty, and archeology is *exactly* like other sciences in that matter. Physics, for example is not *truth*, but merely a collection of our best efforts to describe the universe we live in.
A new *truth* can be found tomorrow and change the way we think about reality. Take the size and shape of the universe as an example, there are more than one theory about that one.
Archaeology is not a science, certainly not an 'arcane science'. It's a discipline which employs (amongst other things) scientific techniques, such as C-14 dating.
I almost belived you were an Archeolog up until you wrote that..
For something to be a science, you have to be able to do studies, using methods based on theories, and to get results that can be independently verified by repeating the study by peer scientists.
Archeology is exactly that ..
If you want an example of something that is not science, take psychoanalysis as an example. It's not even a theory, and as such, can't be disproofed. Everything is based on two subjects of Freud that he found interesting, and used to get him out of his financial troubles.
I'm sure he is laughing hysterically in his grave.
Mr Bayes published some of his early work in the 1764 edition of the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society.
It doesn't matter if Jesus Christ himself wrote that article..
The primary purpose of the US patent system is to generate revenue for the economie and you can patent almost anything already existing, as long as it has a different colour and those who have prior art can't affort a lawsuit to nullify your patent.
For example, McAfee would surely like to patent farting *in public* if they thought it would be enforceable.. And good luck on finding a prior art on that one ..
I know everything MS does is looked down upon by the /. majority but this really should be seen as "a good thing".
Like the donkey said "I have a dragon and I'm not afraid to use it." Microsoft is in a monopoly position and they're not afraid to (ab)use it.
Since Microsoft has realised they can't make neither cheaper nor technically superior products, they fight dirty.
The policy was for a long time to not add any new service without trying to make it a Microsoft-only service. (MSN, Kerberos and DNS to name a few).
And in addition Microsoft now tries (sucsessfully) to patent the thing that makes it Microsoft-only, to prevent similar functionality being implemented in competing products (and thereby all interopability).
Microsoft is not a "fair player", not even remotely, and with the money and political friends they have, having them anywere doing anything else than decomposing, is not "a good thing"
Well, SpamAssassin just failed on me two weeks ago - suddenly its effectivity dropped from a fair 95%-98% to less than 50% and spam started pouring into my mailbox.
Two things that I have done that keep SA hitting hard on the Spam problem, is to install the additional rules_du_jour and my_rules_du_jour ..
and secondly the SURBL real-time system.. And SpamAssassin works like a charm again
Plus we have a significant number of staff who are clueless who would be excluded from communicating effectively because they do not have the time or skills to learn how to train a spam filter. in such a situation, no-one could no-longer *rely* on email to contact/inform our staff, reducing its value as a tool.
True, I also work in a large international organisation, but our Spam/Ham ratio in "only" about 40%..
I am handling the Spam problem and we have been running SpamAssassin, as a pilot project, for the last year.
The SpamAssassin project almost got replaced by a commercial solution when people started asking themselves, "what good is it if we still deliver, the Spam to the users inboxes ?". Our users may be experts in other fields, but for many, computers are not their thing.
Some commercial solutions have "Quarantine" system where you can send a report once a day to the recipients, with a list of all spam they received the day before, with a link for each email the user can click if he wants it delivered to his inbox.
It took me 4 days, but I wrote my own Quarantine system that does exactly that, and got permission to release it under the GPL..
That way the Spam doesn't constantly flow in the user's inboxes and takes up the users time. (And, 'no' manually creating a filter rule for thousands of users is not an option)
The world is now on notice that if knock the chip off the shoulder of the USA you just MIGHT find it accepts the challenge and you get pounded into the ground. Seems to me that creates a LOT more respect than whining to the United Petty Dictators for permission to hit back every time the US is punched.
When a friend of mine was a kid, he used to play with the electricity outlets in the house, that is, until his father took him and beat him so hard and long that he was to scared to repeat it.
His father proudly told his friend that he had "cured" his son, of the dangerous play, and that his son now took a step away from electric outlets in the house whenever he walked by them.
What his father didnt tell his friends was that his kid was also taking a step away from him when they passed in the hallway.
Moral of the story ? Beating or scaring someone into submission, does not mean respect.
The world is now ALSO on notice that the US does its flat-out damdest to avoid suppressing others religions and culture - even to the point of endangering and losing the lives of its own troops. And that if its troops screw up and start oppressing those under they control, the US will ADMIT it, INVESTIGATE it, REMOVE them from their posts and TRY them for crimes. Many in the Muslum world are now asking each other why they allow their OWN leaders to do less.
You are kidding right ??
The US administration knew of the abuse in January, and didnt take action until PHOTOS were released that showed the abuse..
And who was the first guy to be court-martialled ? Yes, the guy who took the PHOTOS !!
Do the math
As good as is sounds unfortunately, this is not true.
Only 2 weeks ago my company held this "brainstorming" session about what we could do, to be more open-source-ish and one of the things that came out was that we couldn't use open source to reduce our costs, since Microsoft is giving us such a "good deal" (Something like 30-40% off list price) with the site-license we have.
Our Servers dont cost us that much (~ 130.000 Euros/Year). It's the desktops with MS Office that cost real money, and nobody thinks it's realistic to switch even a part of our userbase over to Linux/OO.
We work a lot with external data and MS Office compatibility in OpenOffice still sucks..
Everyone realised we were in a Microsoft Lock-in and the bosses were not to happy about it..
Also, some videoconferencing support would rock.
What do you need a freaking videoconferencing for ??
During transmission you have the other person right in front of you (Which is not always true for the other person)..
Ohh, wait, this is /. and "whoever has the most gadgets, wins" ..
how can you condem them before you even hear there policy on the use of the trademark?
Did I miss something ?? Who was condemning them ?? What were you replying to ?
Clearly their expedition will fail... they're going after a find of "tremendous historical significance," particularly to Biblical studies, and they're not bringing along Indiana Jones?! What were they thinking?
Quite a few people have claimed that the Arc's remains are on the mountin and that they have seen it. That doesn't mean that they will find the Arc, but if they are lucky they will find what those other people found, and thought to be the Arc.
Most likely the legend of Noah's Arc is just that, a folklore story that was popular at the time the old testament was written, and simply got written into it, because it was thought to be apropriate to include it, at the time.
The expedition will likely find some rock formations that resemble the remains of a huge ship and belivers will claim that's God's way of preserving the Arc, while logical thinking people will dismiss it as "Rock formation". Everybody get's what they wanted and nothing has changed..
Uh... isnt this a little like somebody in a straw house thanking arsonist for burning other people's houses down just to prove they're flammable?
Uhmm, No, it's rather like when Microsoft paid for a benchmark that showed how Windows was faster in serving webpages and files on a network.
Linus and other developers went into overdrive, threw out the old memory system and inplemented the Direct-memory-copy functions (so data could go directly from hard-disk buffer to network-card buffer without having to go through conventional memory).
This helped Linux a lot, and if Microsoft has repeated the tests since then, they are keeping the results very, very secret.
how is that actually good for Linux. Isn't take a bit like pointing out all the security holes in windows it doesn't improve the OS's reputation.
Linux's reputation wasn't that good at all. Each and every Microsoft consultant, I have met, has always been ready to spread FUD and outright false claims about the competition.
What SCO's case is doing is taking all those claims and making a lawsuit out of them. The only way that would be bad for Linux is if SCO actually won. And judging from the story so far, there seems to be less and less possibility of that happening.
No, what looks like is going to happend is that the SCO lawsuit will "Free" Linux from all the FUD that has been build up over the years ...
I take it, by rest of the world, you would be refering to the French and Spanish speaking countries, as well as Russia (who were also buying oil extraction equipment from the French) and some other interested parties, mainly around the middle east.
By "the rest of the world" I was referign to the people of the world.. There were protests on scales not seen since the Vietnam War almost everywhere in the World..
I AM refering to the leaders of countries, not the punters, who really can't make all that much difference to a government if they have 12+ months before an election
Leaders of countries participated many, not because they agreeded that the war was a good idea, but because, by not participating, would have ment punishment from the USA.
The former financial minister of Pakistan, for example, was told by the USA that "If you don't do what we want you to do, we will destroy your economy." He revealed this on a "HardTalk" interview on BBC. Andm yes, he was refering to USA's "War on terrorism."
Amazing how one phrase can completely discredit someone's entire argument.
Do you honestly belive that if there were any AlQaida fighters in Iraq, the USA wouldn't show us the proof ?
Come on, USA is killing people, over there, by the hundreds, so finding one pesky Terrorist shouldn't be to much of a problem for the worlds greatest super power.
I realy don't understand why the USA hasn't already shown us some pictures of "suspected" AlQaida terrorists over there.. After all, Powel showed the U.N. photos of "Suspected" terrorist camps in N-Iraq (Which later turned out to be a religious study area and the funder was even interviewed on BBC)
Think about it, If nothing happens for a loooong time, and then suddenly nothing continues to happend .... How long are you going to keep your head in the sand ?