firmware bug maybe? i have had that happen to me as well though with brand new machines... apple is usually very good about making sure all is well with new stuff....
sounds to me like you are fighting the knowledge piece.
I can sympathize with your efforts though... but after 25 years in IT, heading social engineering studies to building our worldwide networks, it is most definitely not about simple GUI aspects that can be hampered just on a basis of not knowing any-better... and then there is of course your preferences for how things should work...
I have never seen an unstable UNIX or OS X install unless hardware is not playing nice or damaged. This is typically the reason why any UNIX-based, UNIX-like OS fails. rarely is it a software issue - but they do happen. Dig in deeper - i am sure you find why this is going on.
understood! i think i was on track the first time though. correcting my typo is uncool. aside that, you make your own point - its a different development track; and with that notes it needs to be considered in the conversation as a relevant point on why pricing and product viability are different to say the least.
It took XP 3 years to get decent - and i love my XP 64 build finally!!. Win 2000 less time. but your point is exposed - its always been average and a struggle (always!!) - what's the point at all? even if Win7 turns out to be good - really good - whats the point? after 15 years+ they finally got it! yeah!! to bad I have been happily in UNIX and Mac OS for over 25 years.
what are all you people clamoring about? its junk - it always has been and always will be. now, I use junk, and sometime happily roll around it. but lets get real and with some perspective. Ford put a car in everyones driveway, and MS a computer on everyones desk. doesn't mean its the best option - just an accessible one for the common man. and like anything in this forsaken country and western world, they spoon feed us third rate stuff with first rate hype and crackpot marketing.
when comparing apples to to pcs - spec for spec - i rarely see the disparity of cost that has echoed in the minds of people since they released the 15k lisa in the early 80's.... and since the hardware is nearly the same commodities that make up some of the finer pc builds, i don't see your point. the hardware is basically the same; apple dresses a little better, but if you look under the hood and know what you are looking at, its fairly equivalent - and in price.
And I would gladly pay the little extra premium for software tools that actually work and are efficient to use.
80% of MS office is profit. I would gather its close to the same with OS on the desktop; maybe not so much with server products. what is your point? lets face it. MS has always produced an average product. and like the car industry, it will slowly find its way to a point where everyone will realize there are much better technologies out there to consider.
Vista and Win7 in no way comes close to Tiger, Leopard, or Snow Leopard. I suggest actually using the platform before commenting on it... and yes take this a falme if you will - but MS has yet to ever release and OS that mad me say, "wow - that is cool - and its stable!"
Hasn't anyone here ready 1984? The Handmaids Tail?
How old are you people? really... are you all post cold war zealots? Are we truly breeding people in this country that believe cameras everywhere is a good thing in any respect??
I tend to agree... its not about who has the most toys, or who lasted the longest - at least within itself. There is more to it. my point being kind sir, that fear is one attribute mankind has been culling with each iteration of its kind...
On Demand H2 creation is already a reality
http://www.hypowerfuel.com/home.html
An electrolysis system that is more efficient and begin used in real life...
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto
I still have all three Marathon Games in its collector pack - this was the game that started the RPG frenzy we know of today. There is no doubt in my mind this should be on the list - even if it was not known to all or played by all.
Awesome excerpt actually...
i think the analogy to Orwell's work can only go so far here - its more about control - not mere voyeurism.
Is it an enabling technology? of course... but can you blame apple for innovating?
And haven't they (Apple) been more of an empowering act lately? Like with podcasting - freeing up speech and expression as apposed to limiting it like with facecrime?
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read the book - maybe it will instill some creativity and imagination... start with Baum, move to CS lewis, then go to Tolken.
oh - and in an academic environment - apple puts their best techs in the EDU space - so you premiere support in education.
firmware bug maybe? i have had that happen to me as well though with brand new machines... apple is usually very good about making sure all is well with new stuff....
sounds to me like you are fighting the knowledge piece. I can sympathize with your efforts though... but after 25 years in IT, heading social engineering studies to building our worldwide networks, it is most definitely not about simple GUI aspects that can be hampered just on a basis of not knowing any-better... and then there is of course your preferences for how things should work... I have never seen an unstable UNIX or OS X install unless hardware is not playing nice or damaged. This is typically the reason why any UNIX-based, UNIX-like OS fails. rarely is it a software issue - but they do happen. Dig in deeper - i am sure you find why this is going on.
Gandalf?
Moderators - how could this possibly be Trolling - i am agreeing with the notion entirely and not bashing anyone...
I agree with you on all your points - well said.
i would tend to agree - right up to about 5 minutes after I launched win 95 for the first time; and then it crashed.
understood! i think i was on track the first time though. correcting my typo is uncool. aside that, you make your own point - its a different development track; and with that notes it needs to be considered in the conversation as a relevant point on why pricing and product viability are different to say the least.
mee too! XP is still more viable for me than Vista.
It took XP 3 years to get decent - and i love my XP 64 build finally!!. Win 2000 less time. but your point is exposed - its always been average and a struggle (always!!) - what's the point at all? even if Win7 turns out to be good - really good - whats the point? after 15 years+ they finally got it! yeah!! to bad I have been happily in UNIX and Mac OS for over 25 years. what are all you people clamoring about? its junk - it always has been and always will be. now, I use junk, and sometime happily roll around it. but lets get real and with some perspective. Ford put a car in everyones driveway, and MS a computer on everyones desk. doesn't mean its the best option - just an accessible one for the common man. and like anything in this forsaken country and western world, they spoon feed us third rate stuff with first rate hype and crackpot marketing.
when comparing apples to to pcs - spec for spec - i rarely see the disparity of cost that has echoed in the minds of people since they released the 15k lisa in the early 80's.... and since the hardware is nearly the same commodities that make up some of the finer pc builds, i don't see your point. the hardware is basically the same; apple dresses a little better, but if you look under the hood and know what you are looking at, its fairly equivalent - and in price. And I would gladly pay the little extra premium for software tools that actually work and are efficient to use.
obviously mis-interpreted... as its still going on today; we just call it by a different name.
80% of MS office is profit. I would gather its close to the same with OS on the desktop; maybe not so much with server products. what is your point? lets face it. MS has always produced an average product. and like the car industry, it will slowly find its way to a point where everyone will realize there are much better technologies out there to consider.
irrelevant unless your point has something to do with how WELL the software works due to understanding the hardware platform intimately.
Vista and Win7 in no way comes close to Tiger, Leopard, or Snow Leopard. I suggest actually using the platform before commenting on it... and yes take this a falme if you will - but MS has yet to ever release and OS that mad me say, "wow - that is cool - and its stable!"
But you cant deny that OS X is that good... i'd gladly pay for MS products that ran as well as the Apple counterparts.
Gorbachev, come on now... you know how that ended up last time.
Hasn't anyone here ready 1984? The Handmaids Tail? How old are you people? really... are you all post cold war zealots? Are we truly breeding people in this country that believe cameras everywhere is a good thing in any respect??
I tend to agree... its not about who has the most toys, or who lasted the longest - at least within itself. There is more to it. my point being kind sir, that fear is one attribute mankind has been culling with each iteration of its kind...
Are you kidding? How about hope; love; tolerance - the greatest attribute of any civilization; freedom.
On Demand H2 creation is already a reality http://www.hypowerfuel.com/home.html An electrolysis system that is more efficient and begin used in real life...
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto I still have all three Marathon Games in its collector pack - this was the game that started the RPG frenzy we know of today. There is no doubt in my mind this should be on the list - even if it was not known to all or played by all.
you mean i can stop upgrading my powerbook 1400?
Awesome excerpt actually... i think the analogy to Orwell's work can only go so far here - its more about control - not mere voyeurism. Is it an enabling technology? of course... but can you blame apple for innovating? And haven't they (Apple) been more of an empowering act lately? Like with podcasting - freeing up speech and expression as apposed to limiting it like with facecrime?